Summer Transfer Window 2021

[S-Clarke]

4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Playing Devil's advocate... 😉👼

1) If Vestergaard left we'd need another 1st team centre back, can't just have 3 with Salisu, Bednarek and Stephens.

2) I have doubts Abraham and Tanganga are realistic signings, nice if we could pull it off.

3) I've seen nothing from Elyounoussi that shows he is capable of performing at PL level. He looked completely out of his depth and lacking any skillset of note. What at Premier League level is something he is good at? 

We're in a bit of a tricky situation with Elyonoussi. I don't think anyone will pay a fee for him, so we'd be limited to just sending him out on a random loan again next year. That doesn't give us much/if any cash, so we couldn't then fill the spot he vacates. In that sense, for squad depth alone, it may be a good idea to keep him around. I think we should try all we can to sell him if i'm honest, but I just don't see any takers as he's not very good.

I think Abraham and Tangana are realistic loans - possibly. Not permanent signings though.

And don't you be surprised at the club leaving an obvious squad shortfall come August the 1st. We do it every year, 3 centre backs would not surprise me in the slightest.

Edited 28 March, 2021 by S-Clarke

[igsey]

24 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

We’ve missed a creative player ever since Tadic left, we’ve not had anybody to thread a pass through a tightly packed defence. It used to make my head fall off watching Gabbi make great runs for 90 minutes whilst the likes of Hojbjerg would see it and bottle the pass. Eze would’ve been lovely last summer, glides past players but also has an eye for a pass, £20 mil too, shame. 

Lots of teams were after Eze but he didn't want to move out of London.

[SKD]

5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Playing Devil's advocate... 😉👼

1) If Vestergaard left we'd need another 1st team centre back, can't just have 3 with Salisu, Bednarek and Stephens.

2) I have doubts Abraham and Tanganga are realistic signings, nice if we could pull it off.

3) I've seen nothing from Elyounoussi that shows he is capable of performing at PL level. He looked completely out of his depth and lacking any skillset of note. What at Premier League level is something he is good at? 

1) I think Tangaga is able to play across all of the back 4? He’d probably compliment the other 3 and FB cover quite nicely. Might be wrong on that. 
 

2) Fair argument. Certainly on the more optimistic side of realistic. Although he should be wanting game time, so who knows. 
 

3) Again fair enough, but we won’t have the money to significantly improve this area, so we’ll have to make do. 
 

I forgot to add Theo to the in as well. 

[SKD]

2 minutes ago, igsey said:

Lots of teams were after Eze but he didn't want to move out of London.

He’d have been perfect for us. A shame, we could have offered PL football whilst still living in London.

[stevy777_x]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We're in a bit of a tricky situation with Elyonoussi. I don't think anyone will pay a fee for him, so we'd be limited to just sending him out on a random loan again next year. That doesn't give us much/if any cash, so we couldn't then fill the spot he vacates. In that sense, for squad depth alone, it may be a good idea to keep him around. I think we should try all we can to sell him if i'm honest, but I just don't see any takers as he's not very good.

I think Abraham and Tangana are realistic loans - possibly. Not permanent signings though.

And don't you be surprised at the club leaving an obvious squad shortfall come August the 1st. We do it every year, 3 centre backs would not surprise me in the slightest.

Can you please explain your reasoning behind we won t get a fee for him:

This season he has scored for an attaking midfielder:

- 14 goals:

    - 8 in the scottish PL a goal every 175    
minutes

    - 2 in the scottish cup a toal every 23 minutes

    - 3 in the europa league a goal every 75 minutes

    - 1 goal in the nations league in 275 minutes played

   - 2 world cup qualifiers appearanced with no goals

   - 1 scottish cup appearance with no goals
 

pretty good statistics and even if he hasn’t got a game suited for the EPL, i can very well see a european club come in for him for a couple of million

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Can you please explain your reasoning behind we won t get a fee for him:

This season he has scored for an attaking midfielder:

- 14 goals:

    - 8 in the scottish PL a goal every 175    
minutes

    - 2 in the scottish cup a toal every 23 minutes

    - 3 in the europa league a goal every 75 minutes

    - 1 goal in the nations league in 275 minutes played

   - 2 world cup qualifiers appearanced with no goals

   - 1 scottish cup appearance with no goals
 

pretty good statistics and even if he hasn’t got a game suited for the EPL, i can very well see a european club come in for him for a couple of million

He's been decent up there, but in context the Celtic fans aren't too excited about keeping him. Like you say, the only clubs who could potentially offer him an avenue are smaller European sides - and there's no money in those teams really. As per our unsellables, he's on big wages and I can't see us being able to shift him for a fee because of that. Same issue we had with Boufal, Carillo, Hoedt etc.

[SKD]

3 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Can you please explain your reasoning behind we won t get a fee for him:

This season he has scored for an attaking midfielder:

- 14 goals:

    - 8 in the scottish PL a goal every 175    
minutes

    - 2 in the scottish cup a toal every 23 minutes

    - 3 in the europa league a goal every 75 minutes

    - 1 goal in the nations league in 275 minutes played

   - 2 world cup qualifiers appearanced with no goals

   - 1 scottish cup appearance with no goals
 

pretty good statistics and even if he hasn’t got a game suited for the EPL, i can very well see a european club come in for him for a couple of million

Is there any value in selling him for a ‘couple of million’, though? 

There’s no way we’d be able to replace a player of his experience and quality for a couple million, and Ralph wants depth, so surely it’s better to just keep hold of him? 

I think he’s got enough about him to contribute off the bench for us. 

[stevy777_x]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He's been decent up there, but in context the Celtic fans aren't too excited about keeping him. Like you say, the only clubs who could potentially offer him an avenue are smaller European sides - and there's no money in those teams really. As per our unsellables, he's on big wages and I can't see us being able to shift him for a fee because of that. Same issue we had with Boufal, Carillo, Hoedt etc.

 

11 minutes ago, SKD said:

Is there any value in selling him for a ‘couple of million’, though? 

There’s no way we’d be able to replace a player of his experience and quality for a couple million, and Ralph wants depth, so surely it’s better to just keep hold of him? 

I think he’s got enough about him to contribute off the bench for us. 

Yes we can extract value for that as fees won t be very high in europe for players anymore.

What s the point of cloging up a squad place for someone who has no future with us?

His game is not suited for our style of play so why insist.

sell while his value is high.

[Hodgey]

There’s lots of value in doing that. Firstly I think having him around blocks Tella progress - and I think Tella has something you need in the prem (pace) and potential. Secondly if we want Walcott as a reserve striker / lw then we can’t afford both given his wages. And lastly he’s just not very good - and if he’s around we’ll be tempted to play him, and he’ll inevitably continue to disappoint. I’d take anything above £2m

[Saint Garrett]

Let’s be honest, we’re not going to sell Ings for ca £20m and buy Abraham for the £40m off that he’d cost to buy. He’s had seasons on loan, IMO he won’t be going out on loan again. 
 

IMO there is no way we’ll be signing “name” players such as Abraham and Loftus-Cheek as we simply cannot afford them. They’re probably both already earning more than our highest earners. 

[SKD]

2 hours ago, Hodgey said:

There’s lots of value in doing that. Firstly I think having him around blocks Tella progress - and I think Tella has something you need in the prem (pace) and potential. Secondly if we want Walcott as a reserve striker / lw then we can’t afford both given his wages. And lastly he’s just not very good - and if he’s around we’ll be tempted to play him, and he’ll inevitably continue to disappoint. I’d take anything above £2m

Not this blocking the pathway nonsense again, please. 
 

If Tella, or any other youngster for that matter is good enough, then they’ll get a game ahead of him or whoever. 
 

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, SKD said:

Not this blocking the pathway nonsense again, please. 
 

If Tella, or any other youngster for that matter is good enough, then they’ll get a game ahead of him or whoever. 
 

It isn't nonsense. If for example we had Ryan Bertrand rather than Danny Fox in our first season back in the Premier League, then Luke Shaw wouldn't have had the breakthrough seasons he had in 2012/13 and 2013/14. He'd only have had a handful of games, as despite how good he was, Bertrand would have blocked his pathway to regular first team football at least for the first few years.

[SKD]

2 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

 

Yes we can extract value for that as fees won t be very high in europe for players anymore.

What s the point of cloging up a squad place for someone who has no future with us?

His game is not suited for our style of play so why insist.

sell while his value is high.

You think we’d be able to get a player with champions and Europa league experience for £2m? 😂

Lets not forget that a season ago every had written off vestergaard. Similar comments, too slow, not suited to the PL. 

3 seasons ago, the same was said about JWP. 
 

For a squad that needs depth (managers words, not mine), for a couple of million, it would be ridiculous to sell him. 
 

Similar to Jack Stephens. Is he good enough for us, probably not. Would it be worth selling to then have to spend more on a replacement? No. 

[SKD]

3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

It isn't nonsense. If for example we had Ryan Bertrand rather than Danny Fox in our first season back in the Premier League, then Luke Shaw wouldn't have had the breakthrough seasons he had in 2012/13 and 2013/14. He'd only have had a handful of games, as despite how good he was, Bertrand would have blocked his pathway to regular first team football at least for the first few years.

Right, so weaken yourself on the odd chance that a player may come through and be a Luke Shaw. Anyway, who’s to say Shaw wouldn’t have been a better player under the guidance of someone like Bertrand? 
 

It’s a bit of a daft comparison anyway. Elyounossi won’t be a starter for us unless he impresses. He’d be a squad filler so we’re not reliant on having shite like Nlundlu on the bench. 

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, SKD said:

You think we’d be able to get a player with champions and Europa league experience for £2m? 😂

Lets not forget that a season ago every had written off vestergaard. Similar comments, too slow, not suited to the PL. 

3 seasons ago, the same was said about JWP. 

Anyone who said that about Vestergaard or Ward-Prowse were clearly wrong and they have both always shown they have some very useful qualities.

If you had to pick one quality that Elyounoussi excels at PL level what would it be?

He has looked out of his depth at every quality needed to be of use for us. We'd be better off using Tella and signing Walcott.

Edited 28 March, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[SKD]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Anyone who said that about Vestergaard or Ward-Prowse were clearly wrong and they have both always shown they have some very useful qualities.

If you had to pick one quality that Elyounoussi excels at PL level what would it be?

He has looked out of his depth at every quality needed to be of use for us. We'd be better off using Tella and signing Walcott.

Hang on captain hindsight, you seriously thought that Vestergaard would have made it here from his previous 2/3 seasons? 
 

To be honest, I haven’t really seen much of Elyounoussi to make a complete judgement on him. The season he had here wasn’t great, but many have had bad seasons. 
 

What I would say is that he is probably the closest player to tadic (obviously not as good) as we have. I’m not saying start him ahead of Tella or Theo, but if you’re skint and need depth, it’s better to start with players you have. 

Tella has looked very good but also very quiet at times. He’s young and inexperienced, not to be relied upon all season. Theo plays on the right or through the middle, so really his competition is Redmond. 

[Lighthouse]

Neither Elyounoussi nor Walcott should be in the squad next year if we have designs on anything other than fighting relegation with a bloated wage bill. We’ll never be able to bring in anyone decent until we stop stockpiling mediocrity just because it’s easy and cheap in the short term. Same goes for Bertrand.

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, SKD said:

Hang on captain hindsight, you seriously thought that Vestergaard would have made it here from his previous 2/3 seasons? 

No hindsight about it. 

[SKD]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

No hindsight about it. 

So despite being absolutely terrible and being kept out of the side by Jack Stephens, you though Vestergaard would make it? Don’t talk shit. He was written off by almost everybody on here. 

Show me a post where you said this. 

[SKD]

4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Neither Elyounoussi nor Walcott should be in the squad next year if we have designs on anything other than fighting relegation with a bloated wage bill. We’ll never be able to bring in anyone decent until we stop stockpiling mediocrity just because it’s easy and cheap in the short term. Same goes for Bertrand.

Fair point. Although Ralph himself said he wanted depth, we don’t have money to bring in depth with quality, so we’ll have to make do for now. 

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, SKD said:

Fair point. Although Ralph himself said he wanted depth, we don’t have money to bring in depth with quality, so we’ll have to make do for now. 

No, we get rid of them and only bring a player in if they’re actually going to improve us. Depth for the sake of depth is pointless. We had depth in 2005, some 40 odd senior players on the books come the final day and about 35 of them useless.

[SKD]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

No, we get rid of them and only bring a player in if they’re actually going to improve us. Depth for the sake of depth is pointless. We had depth in 2005, some 40 odd senior players on the books come the final day and about 35 of them useless.

I agree. Tell that to Ralph, he’s the one who wants depth after previously wanting just that with youngsters making up the rest. 

Has he realised that the academy well is pretty much dry or that it’s not realistic with his style, given we’ll need to rely on them At some point. 
 

Taking that approach does also go against the fundamentals of our transfer strategy, though. It’s been made clear we’ll be buying rough diamonds who need some time to bed it and aren’t ready to make an impact straight away. Recipe for disaster when you lose your best players, if you ask me. 

[JustinSFC]

I think who leaves and who comes in depends on the takeover and how quickly it happens and who the buyer is.

If the club fails to be sold I can see any player with any sort of value being sold and replaced with a load of dross.

AKA the last 5 years.

[TWar]

Ideal summer

Shift:

Ings (30m)

Vestergaard (30m)

Gunn (5m)

Forster (7m) (I think Celtic might pay this, they seemed to really want him)

Elyounoussi (8m)

Lemina (8m)

Hoedt/Sims/Valery/Volkins/Obafemi (10-15m combined maybe, probably have to pay Hoedt off like Carrillo)

Bring in:

Abraham (40m)

de Frutos/Brooks/competent AM (£20m)

Minimino (8m)

Quality LB (20m)

Young CB who can cover at FB, like Tanganga (10m)

Quality Keeper like Dubravka/Johnstone (15m)

Net spend would be about £20-25m out. Maybe unlikely but you can dream

Edited 28 March, 2021 by TWar

[SKD]

3 minutes ago, TWar said:

Ideal summer

Shift:

Ings (30m)

Vestergaard (30m)

Gunn (5m)

Forster (7m) (I think Celtic might pay this, they seemed to really want him)

Elyounoussi (8m)

Lemina (8m)

Hoedt/Sims/Valery/Volkins/ (10m combined maybe, probably have to pay Hoedt off like Carrillo)

Bring in:

Abraham (40m)

de Frutos/Brooks/competent AM (£20m)

Minimino (8m)

Quality LB (20m)

Young CB who can cover at FB, like Tanganga (10m)

Quality Keeper like Dubravka/Johnstone (15m)

Net spend would be about £20-25m out. Maybe unlikely but you can dream

😂
 

‘Unlikely’ is understatement of the century there. 

Edited 28 March, 2021 by SKD

[TWar]

4 minutes ago, SKD said:

😂

Yeah, realistic summer without investment will be Ings, Vestergaard, and Bertrand out. Dead wood retained as we can't shift them. Young striker from belgium league or something in and a chase for a high profile attacking mid going right to the last day and then missing out and the club apologising and saying we tried. But maybe this summer we finally shift Gao and can do what teams like Villa and West Ham do.

The annoying thing is that what I suggested is 6 players in for just over £100m, if we flog Ings and Vestergaard for good money this should be very doable, but it won't be. We will pocket most of the money from the two and then try and sign some young unproven players to step up.

Edited 28 March, 2021 by TWar

[S-Clarke]

16 minutes ago, TWar said:

Ideal summer

Shift:

Ings (30m)

Vestergaard (30m)

Gunn (5m)

Forster (7m) (I think Celtic might pay this, they seemed to really want him)

Elyounoussi (8m)

Lemina (8m)

Hoedt/Sims/Valery/Volkins/Obafemi (10-15m combined maybe, probably have to pay Hoedt off like Carrillo)

Bring in:

Abraham (40m)

de Frutos/Brooks/competent AM (£20m)

Minimino (8m)

Quality LB (20m)

Young CB who can cover at FB, like Tanganga (10m)

Quality Keeper like Dubravka/Johnstone (15m)

Net spend would be about £20-25m out. Maybe unlikely but you can dream

Wow, that's like a thing of dreams! (Well, not selling Ings and Vestergaard as I don't want them to leave).

We can't sell Gunn, he's already agreed a 2nd year loan at Stoke next year. Need to hope Fulham go down then, as the agreed fee with Fulham is around £4-5m

Edited 28 March, 2021 by S-Clarke

[TWar]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Wow, that's like a thing of dreams! (Well, not selling Ings and Vestergaard as I don't want them to leave).

We can't sell Gunn, he's already agreed a 2nd year loan at Stoke next year. Need to hope Fulham go down then, as the agreed fee with Fulham is around £4-5m

I didn't realise that for Gunn. Thats a shame, he was a reasonable keeper at championship level and is still pretty young. Would have thought we could get £5m atleast. Maybe we are wanting to give him more of a chance.

And yeah, I actually do think that we might want Fulham to drop given Lemina. He has actually looked pretty handy recently and has benched Anguissa a lot who also looked good. He isn't a world beater but at his age after a season like this I expect we can get more than the £4m we agreed. Not a lot more but maybe closer to £8-10m.

Edited 28 March, 2021 by TWar

[SKD]

14 minutes ago, TWar said:

Yeah, realistic summer without investment will be Ings, Vestergaard, and Bertrand out. Dead wood retained as we can't shift them. Young striker from belgium league or something in and a chase for a high profile attacking mid going right to the last day and then missing out and the club apologising and saying we tried. But maybe this summer we finally shift Gao and can do what teams like Villa and West Ham do.

The annoying thing is that what I suggested is 6 players in for just over £100m, if we flog Ings and Vestergaard for good money this should be very doable, but it won't be. We will pocket most of the money from the two and then try and sign some young unproven players to step up.

I think your estimate of £30m for each is about 10m more than we’ll get for Ings and 15m more than we’ll get for vestergaard. Then there’s no way we’ll get 16m for lemina and Elyounossi, we’ll be lucky to get 8m for them both. 
 

You’re right though, £100m would massively push our team on. We’d need to find probably £30/£40m from behind the sofa which obviously won’t happen, but we’ll be stuck with a load of shit who’ll take ages to bed in with the hope that they’ll improve. 

[TWar]

Just now, SKD said:

I think your estimate of £30m for each is about 10m more than we’ll get for Ings and 15m more than we’ll get for vestergaard. Then there’s no way we’ll get 16m for lemina and Elyounossi, we’ll be lucky to get 8m for them both. 
 

You’re right though, £100m would massively push our team on. We’d need to find probably £30/£40m from behind the sofa which obviously won’t happen, but we’ll be stuck with a load of shit who’ll take ages to bed in with the hope that they’ll improve. 

Yeah that's probably where the main disparity lies. I think Ely for 8m is realistic but the others are definitely on the high side. As an aside I saw that Barry Fry (former manager of Peterborough or something) has said we will ask for £100m for Ings! So hopefully he is right and that can fund the whole endeavour 😂 I personally can't really get a grasp on Ings, on one hand he was the 5th best goal scorer in europe last season (not inc. pens) but on the other hand his contract has run down and has had a lot of injuries. I expect £30m personally but if he goes for £20m or £40m I don't think I'd be shocked, it is such a hard thing to predict. Hopefully a bidding war can drive the value up a bit.  

[Hodgey]

SKD - no WE wouldn’t get a champs league and euro league player for £2m. But that isn’t the way it works. Nobody who would pay £50k a week wants Elynoussi as he isn’t good enough. others at a lower level might buy him for a reduced fee to subsidise the fact they would have to pay a very high wage.

I’d be happy with £2m cash plus £5m saved in wages. Yes it seems like a bad deal (and his book value is still c £7m so it is) - but better than us trying to find 2 more loan deals and he leaves on a free anyway in 2 years.

If you think he is genuinely good enough to be a decent squad option fair enough. I sadly don’t - and whilst I admit I doubted Vestergaard could be a prem player due to his pace, pace isn’t as important for a cb if they learn positioning and his arial ability and passing have always been decent. the fact Celtic fans aren’t bothered - and he has been in and out of a poor Celtic team doesn’t give me confidence despite some half decent stats. 
BTW - same opinion on Hoet. Lemina has at least shown he can be a prem player so someone might nibble if Fulham go down

[woodsaint1]

Think Ings is gone, but not convinced about Bertrand or Veatergaard leaving. Think theres a good chance we could tie both down to new contracts, but our guaranteed safety is stalling negotiations/signing on the dotted line.

If this holds true and if nobody else of note leaves, then think we're still looking at 4 players to plug the gaps. In terms of priority -

CF - will be the difference between fighting relegation and mid table. This is how crucial Ings has been. Without replacing his goals, we will be in the s***. We cant afford a Carillo or Delgado moment of madness.

RB - for competition with KWP

LB - for competition with Bertrand

AM - we need a no10 type playmaker to improve our creativity. Outside of Armstrong and an in-form Redmond (not often), it is non existent

Cant see us ever paying close to 40m for a player, let alone that player being Tammy Abraham. Im not going to pretend to know who we should target, but there has been plenty of success stories from the Championship. We should perhaps look there, particularly for the full back depth. Also very surprised that after two and a half years with Ralph in charge we havent brought more in from the German or Austria Bundesligas, although Danso didnt work out. Seeing the success of Slavia Prague this season and how Soucek/Coufal have fared for West Ham, the Czech league could be another option if we likely dont have much to sopend

[qwertyell]

1 hour ago, woodsaint1 said:

Seeing the success of Slavia Prague this season and how Soucek/Coufal have fared for West Ham, the Czech league could be another option if we likely dont have much to sopend

Hlozek and Sima are the big young attacking talents in the Czech league - and already both way out of our price range.

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Hlozek and Sima are the big young attacking talents in the Czech league - and already both way out of our price range.

How much do you think they'd cost?

[woodsaint1]

1 hour ago, qwertyell said:

Hlozek and Sima are the big young attacking talents in the Czech league - and already both way out of our price range.

Thought Stanciu was excellent for Slavia against Rangers. Could fit the creative playmaker role we desperately need. Established international too

[SuperSAINT]

9 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Thought Stanciu was excellent for Slavia against Rangers. Could fit the creative playmaker role we desperately need. Established international too

A blast from the past.  We were linked with him years ago.  I remember his obligatory YouTube video being f*cking great.

[ErwinK1961]

12 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

How much do you think they'd cost?

More than we could afford. 

[Saint Garrett]

12 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

A blast from the past.  We were linked with him years ago.  I remember his obligatory YouTube video being f*cking great.

Think we signed Gaston Ramirez instead

 

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, ErwinK1961 said:

More than we could afford. 

I was looking for a ball park figure.

[JustinSFC]

11 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Think we signed Gaston Ramirez instead

 

I'd take him now. He got a battering from our fanbase but I thought he was a good player and would probably work well in a Ralph system.
 

[Saint Garrett]

27 minutes ago, JustinSFC said:

I'd take him now. He got a battering from our fanbase but I thought he was a good player and would probably work well in a Ralph system.
 

Matter of opinion....I think he'd be lost in Ralphs system, his work rate was never brilliant.

[LuckyNumber7]

2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Think we signed Gaston Ramirez instead

 

It was more recent than that.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/22/report-southampton-close-to-signing-nicolae-stanciu-for-7-millio/

Signed Boufal instead I think.

[Cartman]

16 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Hlozek and Sima are the big young attacking talents in the Czech league - and already both way out of our price range.

Of course they aren't, in fact Hlozek has just a year left on his contract. Could probably get both for less than £30m combined.

[Saint Mikey]

37 minutes ago, Cartman said:

Of course they aren't, in fact Hlozek has just a year left on his contract. Could probably get both for less than £30m combined.

Transfermarkt estimates a combined £17m, but agree £25-£30m is more realistic once you factor in Premier League premium. Impressive stats and good ages.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/abdallah-sima/profil/spieler/776798

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/adam-hlozek/profil/spieler/552057

Anyone know how the recruitment from the Czech League is affected by the new work permit rules? Wondering if it's even possible?

[skintsaint]

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/03/24/we-tend-to-sell-fans-expect-star-men-to-leave-amid-southampton-and-wolves-links/

 

 

[S-Clarke]

8 hours ago, JustinSFC said:

I'd take him now. He got a battering from our fanbase but I thought he was a good player and would probably work well in a Ralph system.
 

Nah, he'd be out on his arse in a Ralph team. A luxury player who'd be totally lost and at odds with how we play. Not sure why you feel he'd work well in a Ralph system.

I think most fans accepted he was genuinely gifted, very technical, but just not really suited to the rigors and pace of PL football - much in the same way as Boufal really.

[JustinSFC]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Nah, he'd be out on his arse in a Ralph team. A luxury player who'd be totally lost and at odds with how we play. Not sure why you feel he'd work well in a Ralph system.

Because I think Ralph would have done the same thing he's done with Prowse, turned him into a completely different player.

And with Gaston's talent he'd have been brilliant.

For all Ralph's faults, he knows what to do with players.

Vestergaard, Prowse, Walker-Peters, Adams.

But on the flipside he can be a wanker too: jankewitz.

If Ramirez responded he'd be great under Ralph. But anyway, it's a moot point, he left donkeys ago.

 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, JustinSFC said:

Because I think Ralph would have done the same thing he's done with Prowse, turned him into a completely different player.

And with Gaston's talent he'd have been brilliant.

For all Ralph's faults, he knows what to do with players.

Vestergaard, Prowse, Walker-Peters, Adams.

But on the flipside he can be a wanker too: jankewitz.

If Ramirez responded he'd be great under Ralph. But anyway, it's a moot point, he left donkeys ago.

 

Ramirez played for us under Pochetino, a similar high energy style and improved most of our players. Ramirez was always injured and ended up being out of the team and loaned out. Why would it be any different under Ralph?

[JustinSFC]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Ramirez played for us under Pochetino, a similar high energy style and improved most of our players. Ramirez was always injured and ended up being out of the team and loaned out. Why would it be any different under Ralph?

Well, Poch was only here for a year for a start....

[S-Clarke]

The fact Gaston ended up on loan at Hull and on the back of that, on loan in the NPC with Middlesbrough probably tells you all you need to know about his suitability for this league.

He's done ok at Sampdoria to be fair, that's probably the best fit for his ability - la liga wouldn't have been a bad shout either. Slower pace, more time on the ball. The total opposite of this league.