stevy777_x Posted 15 July, 2021 Share Posted 15 July, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Origi? Please god no. If true, what the fuck is wrong with our scouting ffs. we should be snapping the best talent in the dutch, austrian, belgium, polish leagues. I would even add Brazilian, Argentinian, Colombian, Uruguayan, Chiliean ones with the new brexit rules. I know our scouting may need a few years to setup but why don t we recruit a recruitment expert with loads of contacts. the Everton guy was supposed to be a stop gap but now he seems to be in charge of it, yet another cheap option. Edited 15 July, 2021 by stevy777_x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 July, 2021 Share Posted 15 July, 2021 3 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Please god no. If true, what the fuck is wrong with our scouting ffs. we should be snapping the best talent in the dutch, austrian, belgium, polish leagues. I would even add Brazilian, Argentinian, Colombian, Uruguayan, Chiliean ones with the new brexit leagues. I know our scouting may need a few years to setup but why don t we recruit a recruitment expert with loads of contacts. the Everton guy was supposed to be a stop gap but now he seems to be in charge of it, yet another cheap option. The new team is in place. As Dusic has said before, I'm very surprised we haven't snapped up some extra talent to bulk out the B-Team & U18's yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 15 July, 2021 Share Posted 15 July, 2021 The Armstrong deal's not going to happen... Is It? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 July, 2021 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: The Armstrong deal's not going to happen... Is It? Not until Ings has gone. I reckon Ings will go, Armstrong will be his replacement and then we will just keep Obafemi alongside Tella, Walcott & Redmond as the backup to Adams and Armstrong. Edited 15 July, 2021 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 15 July, 2021 Share Posted 15 July, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: The Armstrong deal's not going to happen... Is It? Yeah I think it will tbh. I think Ings is off and we will sign Armstrong to "play with him" then sell Ings and not replace him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ralph Posted 15 July, 2021 Share Posted 15 July, 2021 2 hours ago, TWar said: Yeah I think it will tbh. I think Ings is off and we will sign Armstrong to "play with him" then sell Ings and not replace him. Even if ings goes I still think we need Armstrong plus another decent striker. This would mean we have 3 reasonable attackers with tella and Redmond to fill in. Relying on Adam’s (10 goals a season) and Armstrong (has really played in prem) to fire us to 18th is a risky tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Shaquiri always looks to be on the fringe at Liverpool. Rarely starts. Now I wouldn't mind having him for a season or two. He looked absolute quality in the Euros. No chance of course, but I'll keep dreaming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Piece in The Athletic about Chelsea youth players leaving them. We aren’t mentioned, but says their commanding young centre-back Dynel Simeu rejected a contract and will join a Prem side next week. (He’s on a free). We should be all over that one. His bio says he was born in Cameroon but Chelsea OS even describes him as a “Southampton boy”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 20 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Piece in The Athletic about Chelsea youth players leaving them. We aren’t mentioned, but says their commanding young centre-back Dynel Simeu rejected a contract and will join a Prem side next week. (He’s on a free). We should be all over that one. His bio says he was born in Cameroon but Chelsea OS even describes him as a “Southampton boy”. Follows Slattery, Bertrand, Ndlundu, Ramsey insta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 25 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Piece in The Athletic about Chelsea youth players leaving them. We aren’t mentioned, but says their commanding young centre-back Dynel Simeu rejected a contract and will join a Prem side next week. (He’s on a free). We should be all over that one. His bio says he was born in Cameroon but Chelsea OS even describes him as a “Southampton boy”. Played for Chamberlayne in the Southampton local league...got scouted by and signed by Chelsea from under out nose on our patch. Not good!! He's captained them lots and is exactly the sort of player we need for the development team, and hopefully he can develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Follows Slattery, Bertrand, Ndlundu, Ramsey insta Little piece about him here about his history: https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/02/09/teenage-kicks--dynel-simeu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldridge7 Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Watford forum seems to think he's on the way there https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/dynel-simeu.58331/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 8 minutes ago, daldridge7 said: Watford forum seems to think he's on the way there https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/dynel-simeu.58331/ That’ll be about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 (edited) This can only mean one thing... #hescominghome Edited 16 July, 2021 by trousers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Little piece about him here about his history: https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2020/02/09/teenage-kicks--dynel-simeu "I came from a Sunday league team in Southampton and with my background I didn’t know many footballers and didn’t even know how Chelsea Academy worked, I thought playing here was unrealistic. I admired Portsmouth and Southampton because that’s all I knew, I always dreamed of becoming a footballer but my family and I never thought it was realistic, then when I got the chance everything happened quickly and it was unbelievable." Eeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 (edited) Also in the article: Valentino Livramento (right back) is training with the Chelsea U16’s after not signing a new deal. You’d hope he was on the radar too. He will probably end up at Palace. Edited 16 July, 2021 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 12 hours ago, stevy777_x said: Please god no. If true, what the fuck is wrong with our scouting ffs. we should be snapping the best talent in the dutch, austrian, belgium, polish leagues. I would even add Brazilian, Argentinian, Colombian, Uruguayan, Chiliean ones with the new brexit rules. I know our scouting may need a few years to setup but why don t we recruit a recruitment expert with loads of contacts. the Everton guy was supposed to be a stop gap but now he seems to be in charge of it, yet another cheap option. Personally think he would be a good signing. Scored in Champions League final, ripped us apart in League Cup tie in past. Still on,y 26. If we got him and Armstrong in I would be very happy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Southampton are expressing an interest in 23-year-old Manchester City midfielder Yangel Herrera, the Venezuelan has just returned from a second season on loan at Granada, & is valued at ‘up to £20million’ #saintsfc [telegraph] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Southampton are expressing an interest in 23-year-old Manchester City midfielder Yangel Herrera, the Venezuelan has just returned from a second season on loan at Granada, & is valued at ‘up to £20million’ #saintsfc [telegraph] He’s been linked earlier this year, too. Worth pointing out that Palace & West Ham are also mentioned, so that’s us f*cked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 36 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Southampton are expressing an interest in 23-year-old Manchester City midfielder Yangel Herrera, the Venezuelan has just returned from a second season on loan at Granada, & is valued at ‘up to £20million’ #saintsfc [telegraph] For a team who have repeatedly said we aren't looking for a midfielder we sure are linked with a lot of midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: He’s been linked earlier this year, too. Worth pointing out that Palace & West Ham are also mentioned, so that’s us f*cked. Could only imagine it would be a loan. We aren't forking out £20m on a CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 46 minutes ago, TWar said: For a team who have repeatedly said we aren't looking for a midfielder we sure are linked with a lot of midfielders. Every time I see one of these I think 'oh, that's JWP off then'. Same true for Ings and forwards, and Vestergard when there's a CB linked. Our squad is very thin. and doesn't look very competitive to me. Plus we have retained McCarthy and Redmond, which I find a bit baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 8 hours ago, Saint Keef said: Shaquiri always looks to be on the fringe at Liverpool. Rarely starts. Now I wouldn't mind having him for a season or two. He looked absolute quality in the Euros. No chance of course, but I'll keep dreaming. and his hair? deal dunne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 3 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: That’ll be about right. I just don’t know what’s happened to SFC’s scouting or SFC in general. Just seems lackadaisical, slow and the reverse of proactive even post Les. When you are on a tight budget you need to be proactive and act quickly when your part of the market is active or where you have gaps. The gaps exist in virtually every age team and the lad has a connection to the area already. Yet money has been squandered on new deals for 22-23 year olds then loaned straight out to League One - why?! Maybe I’m being harsh and SFC has a plan for recruiting gaps in the first team and age teams but it certainly doesn’t feel like after Crocker’s nice words in the forum. Seems like the same old to me. Needs a new owner to kick it all up the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 3 hours ago, trousers said: This can only mean one thing... #hescominghome Ha!! That'd be Keegan esque. I'm off to the Potters Heron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 10 minutes ago, saint1977 said: I just don’t know what’s happened to SFC’s scouting or SFC in general. Just seems lackadaisical, slow and the reverse of proactive even post Les. When you are on a tight budget you need to be proactive and act quickly when your part of the market is active or where you have gaps. The gaps exist in virtually every age team and the lad has a connection to the area already. Yet money has been squandered on new deals for 22-23 year olds then loaned straight out to League One - why?! Maybe I’m being harsh and SFC has a plan for recruiting gaps in the first team and age teams but it certainly doesn’t feel like after Crocker’s nice words in the forum. Seems like the same old to me. Needs a new owner to kick it all up the arse. Absolutely agree. See little point in handing out contracts to the likes of Ramsey and N'lundulu. We know they aren't going to be good enough at Premier League level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 (edited) I notice once rumoured Saints target Joey Veerman is linked with Rangers. Obviously a Ross Wilson favourite. Interesting to see how he gets on up there if they get him. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/joey-veerman-immediate-rangers-transfer-24549388 cc: @Convict Colony Edited 16 July, 2021 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 On 15/07/2021 at 07:16, Saint Billy said: How can Messi ignore us once again? no bad thing, take your pick from the following and insert: overrated, carried by his teammates for years salary would disrupt the dressing room doesn't track back wouldn't suit our press no resale value wouldn't do it on a wet Tuesday night away to Burnley in November Dixon and Speedie are better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Klopp saying Minamino can leave but he'd prefer him to stay. Wonder if we'll go back for him again?Jurgen Klopp finally explains Liverpool's plan for Takumi Minamino after Southampton approach - HampshireLive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 46 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: I notice once rumoured Saints target Joey Veerman is linked with Rangers. Obviously a Ross Wilson favourite. Interesting to see how he gets on up there if they get him. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/joey-veerman-immediate-rangers-transfer-24549388 cc: @Convict Colony Think this is a rehash of this what i posted on 7th June. "Some current and suggested players: Koopmeiners - now being linked with a 18mil bid to Atalanta after they had a 16mil bid turned down. Joey Veerman - linked with a lot of clubs in NL and abroad (inc Rangers/Celtic)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Klopp saying Minamino can leave but he'd prefer him to stay. Wonder if we'll go back for him again?Jurgen Klopp finally explains Liverpool's plan for Takumi Minamino after Southampton approach - HampshireLive I think we might. No real solid links with any other “wide 10’s” yet. 3 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Think this is a rehash of this what i posted on 7th June. "Some current and suggested players: Koopmeiners - now being linked with a 18mil bid to Atalanta after they had a 16mil bid turned down. Joey Veerman - linked with a lot of clubs in NL and abroad (inc Rangers/Celtic)" You’re ahead of the game, mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: That's an odd one. West Ham wanted £45m when United were sniffing around last year:West Ham 'ready to sell Issa Diop for £45m transfer fee' and raise funds amid Man Utd interest in defender (thesun.co.uk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: I know Palace need players, but they are linked with EVERYBODY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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saintwbu Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Absolutely agree. See little point in handing out contracts to the likes of Ramsey and N'lundulu. We know they aren't going to be good enough at Premier League level. Chelsea do this all the time - there’s big money in selling players to the Championship these days, it’s a good business model if you get it right. N’Lundulu is probably on a pittance compared to our other players, but if he does really well at Lincoln and a Championship team want him, he’s probably worth 4/5mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Badger said: Dixon and Speedie are better Now I _know_ you're joking..;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 3 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Absolutely agree. See little point in handing out contracts to the likes of Ramsey and N'lundulu. We know they aren't going to be good enough at Premier League level. Perhaps forward thinking for helping us get back up... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 3 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: That's an odd one. West Ham wanted £45m when United were sniffing around last year:West Ham 'ready to sell Issa Diop for £45m transfer fee' and raise funds amid Man Utd interest in defender (thesun.co.uk) He barely played last season, as Dawson took his place, and we were keen before he went there. They’re also trying to raise money to sign Rice on new contract and sign Lingard, wouldn’t surprise me if he’s being touted about by the dildos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 17 hours ago, Sir Ralph said: Even if ings goes I still think we need Armstrong plus another decent striker. This would mean we have 3 reasonable attackers with tella and Redmond to fill in. Relying on Adam’s (10 goals a season) and Armstrong (has really played in prem) to fire us to 18th is a risky tactic. If 18th is our aim we are in deep shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 I'm still hoping that we are chasing Edouard. He's in the last year of his contract at Celtic, we could get him for £15m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 3 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: I'm still hoping that we are chasing Edouard. He's in the last year of his contract at Celtic, we could get him for £15m. I think he's on our radar, along with Armstrong. But it's impossible to see how we can afford either without shifting Ings first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I think he's on our radar, along with Armstrong. But it's impossible to see how we can afford either without shifting Ings first. Why is it impossible to see it? The club has already apparently bid twice for Armstrong with Ings still at the club. Had one of them been accepted we'd have both Armstrong and Ings at the club at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 16 July, 2021 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Why is it impossible to see it? The club has already apparently bid twice for Armstrong with Ings still at the club. Had one of them been accepted we'd have both Armstrong and Ings at the club at the same time. According to nearly all reports Blackburn want approx 20m. According to all reports Saints have offered approx £10m. Saints offers were never going to be accepted so its hardly a statement of intent to having Ings and Armstrong at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Why is it impossible to see it? The club has already apparently bid twice for Armstrong with Ings still at the club. Had one of them been accepted we'd have both Armstrong and Ings at the club at the same time. I just don't think we have a pot to piss in to be honest, it feels as if anything we do is fully dictated by what we can bring in or save on the wage bill first. That's why I think it's a positive that we've lost guys like Hoedt, Gunn and possibly Lemina soon - that should free up some space in the wage department, but for outright transfer fee's I think we're going to need a strategic 'big' sale in order to start moving. If we do it right...then we have a chance to evolve the squad a bit, but if we do it wrong and choose poor players again then we're probably done for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Just now, Dusic said: According to nearly all reports Blackburn want approx 20m. According to all reports Saints have offered approx £10m. Saints offers were never going to be accepted so its hardly a statement of intent to having Ings and Armstrong at the same time! Depends how close to the deadline we are at. I don t think it is in Blackburn s interest to lose him for nothing next year, so their valuation might change. Just like our might for Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 16 July, 2021 Share Posted 16 July, 2021 Alfredo Morelos After Rangers fail to get CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 July, 2021 Share Posted 17 July, 2021 20 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Southampton are expressing an interest in 23-year-old Manchester City midfielder Yangel Herrera, the Venezuelan has just returned from a second season on loan at Granada, & is valued at ‘up to £20million’ #saintsfc [telegraph] Dude got 2 goals, 3 assists and 14 yellow cards last season and he's valued at 20mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2021 Share Posted 17 July, 2021 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: Dude got 2 goals, 3 assists and 14 yellow cards last season and he's valued at 20mil Why are you judging a holding midfielder on goals and assists? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 July, 2021 Share Posted 17 July, 2021 6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Why are you judging a holding midfielder on goals and assists? I am not but highlighting his stats and the quoted 20mil as a joke - we will never spend 20mil on a DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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