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22 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

I would prefer this link to have some basis, but appreciate it's at clickbait level now.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/southampton-signing-65k-p-w-beast-could-unleash-13-5m-rated-saints-gem-under-ralph-opinion/ar-BB1eCaWI?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

Sell Ings, buy Abraham, pay him £65-70k pw wages. Mind you, if we continue recycling the ball backwards, we could have Haaland up front and still rarely score.

 

Would be great but no way will it happen.

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17 minutes ago, disconnect said:

Yep, seems unfortunately very unrealistic. Chelsea would want 30mil+ I'd imagine and he would want to up his salary to come here.

We’ve accounted for more than that for ings deal, so that isn’t an issue. 
 

Although, his transfer fee probably would be. Perhaps, if we’re trying to be smart, we could swap him for ings and have a buy back clause for them at a certain, lower, fee? Would that be acceptable..?

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29 minutes ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

I feel a striker then GK should be our top priorities in this window. Sam Johnstone could be affordable if WBA go down which is pretty much a banker, and of course we also stay up. I'm impressed with him. He will want to be first choice next season in PL so he can stay in England squad so we maybe a good fit. 

Given the financial constraints on French football in general, an Bordeaux in particular,  Costil Gk, Sabaly Rb or lb and the striker on loan at Fulham could be worth a look

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2 hours ago, The Curse of St Mary's said:

I feel a striker then GK should be our top priorities in this window. Sam Johnstone could be affordable if WBA go down which is pretty much a banker, and of course we also stay up. I'm impressed with him. He will want to be first choice next season in PL so he can stay in England squad so we maybe a good fit. 

Well i'd say Left Back should our no1 priority, followed by striker.(makin huge assumption we don't lose any of first 11) GK is down below No10 for me, in the wouldn't that be nice but only if we could sell what we've got.

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I honestly think goalkeeper is easily our weakest position. We lack depth in fullback and attacking mid and could do with a bit more quality making chances but we do not have a single premier league quality keeper in our squad. Would love to see us drop £20m and get someone quality and reliable.

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On 16/03/2021 at 10:52, the saint in winchester said:

I would prefer this link to have some basis, but appreciate it's at clickbait level now.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/southampton-signing-65k-p-w-beast-could-unleash-13-5m-rated-saints-gem-under-ralph-opinion/ar-BB1eCaWI?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

Sell Ings, buy Abraham, pay him £65-70k pw wages. Mind you, if we continue recycling the ball backwards, we could have Haaland up front and still rarely score.

 

He was after a new contract for £100,000+ a week when Chelsea activated a clause to extended his original deal for a year until 2023. If Ings goes the cash might be there.

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3 hours ago, TWar said:

I honestly think goalkeeper is easily our weakest position. We lack depth in fullback and attacking mid and could do with a bit more quality making chances but we do not have a single premier league quality keeper in our squad. Would love to see us drop £20m and get someone quality and reliable.

GK is about 5th in the list of priorities for me. Left back firstly, a no10 in the mould of Armstrong next and another striker as it looks like Ings is going. Then we need a fullback who can operate on both flanks to provide cover.

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1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

Tenuous link to Danjuma last week.

Yeah the links that have come out so far I have seen have been to Danjuma and de Frutos, seems we are in the market to improve upon the other 10 to play next to Armstrong. Great news imo, we have been abysmal at creating chances basically all season.

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23 minutes ago, TWar said:

Yeah the links that have come out so far I have seen have been to Danjuma and de Frutos, seems we are in the market to improve upon the other 10 to play next to Armstrong. Great news imo, we have been abysmal at creating chances basically all season.

It’s because all of our no10’s (Armstrong aside) are the same. Just quick and direct, rather than having any real quality and creativity. We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football, it’s so easy to play against us. 10 men behind the ball in a solid shape, then break. 

I called this out at the start of the season. Someone like RLC would have been perfect for us in there. 

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We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football, it’s We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football

That isn't our style of play at all. We are one of the most intense high pressing teams in the league. That is the opposite of counter attacking.

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2 minutes ago, SKD said:

It’s because all of our no10’s (Armstrong aside) are the same. Just quick and direct, rather than having any real quality and creativity. We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football, it’s so easy to play against us. 10 men behind the ball in a solid shape, then break. 

I called this out at the start of the season. Someone like RLC would have been perfect for us in there. 

RLC is a very good shout tbf, dunno if we could afford to buy him though, could just be another loan. I think we have tried to address that lack of creativity but Djenepo, Redmond, Walcott, and now Minimino all haven't really performed as well as we would have liked for various reasons. I think longterm Djenepo is our best hope in that position but if we have any money to spend I would love a truly quality creative force. Even if it means selling Vestergaard and bumping Salisu up to the starting line up I think it would do us a world of good.

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Just now, Matthew Le God said:

That isn't our style of play at all. We are one of the most intense high pressing teams in the league. That is the opposite of counter attacking.

Yeah I guess its not really counter attacking if you want to split hairs, its more winning the ball high, but I think SKD ment our style is to quickly look to attack after gaining possession rather than breaking teams down when controlling the ball. Which is a valid point, it is really a big struggle when teams just sit deep and let us have that ball like Newcastle did.

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So back on topic, I think RLC would be a good creative force. I think our team really miss a Tadic style player. I wonder if there was any truth in claims we were in for Brooks, he could do a job.

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1 hour ago, TWar said:

So back on topic, I think RLC would be a good creative force. I think our team really miss a Tadic style player. I wonder if there was any truth in claims we were in for Brooks, he could do a job.

Agree. 
 

I think Brooks would be out of our price range but the exact sort of player we should be looking at. 
 

Youngish, has the ability and experience to play at this level and you’d expect has a resell value if he does well. 
 

Could see him going to a West Ham or villa. 

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5 hours ago, SKD said:

It’s because all of our no10’s (Armstrong aside) are the same. Just quick and direct, rather than having any real quality and creativity. We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football, it’s so easy to play against us. 10 men behind the ball in a solid shape, then break. 

I called this out at the start of the season. Someone like RLC would have been perfect for us in there. 

R L C hasn't pulled up any trees at Fulham and has been on the bench since there form has improved. We can do better than that, and for less wages.

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4 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Vokins and Valery haven't even been on the bench for Sunderland or Birmingham in the last couple of games.

Two full backs are surely the primary target, alongside an Ings replacement.

...as well as a Bertrand & (maybe) Vest replacement (!).

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5 hours ago, SKD said:

It’s because all of our no10’s (Armstrong aside) are the same. Just quick and direct, rather than having any real quality and creativity. We are so heavily reliant on counter attacking football, it’s so easy to play against us. 10 men behind the ball in a solid shape, then break. 

I called this out at the start of the season. Someone like RLC would have been perfect for us in there. 

Disagree - I would say Armstrong is quick and direct and the problem with Djenepo and Redmond is that they aren't direct enough - when they are they are a big threat.

Agree we could use a more cultured, technical player at times - but would put full back, striker, centre mid and GK above no10 as a priority - assuming we sign Walcott.

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31 minutes ago, Streaky said:

R L C hasn't pulled up any trees at Fulham and has been on the bench since there form has improved. We can do better than that, and for less wages.

Tbf I only said RLC because he was available on loan at the start of the season. 
 

I’m sure there are many better options out there, but were really, really desperate for someone who can make a pass to unlock a defence. A Tadic type player. 
 

Unbelievably people didn’t rate Tadic, well actually it’s not that unbelievable considering the some of the idiots who support us. 

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8 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Buendia at Norwich is a player that has always impressed me when I have watched them. 

Yeah the guy is nuts but I think they turned down £40m from Arsenal recently so probably a little beyond us.

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17 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Buendia at Norwich is a player that has always impressed me when I have watched them. 

Absolutely no chance we’d get him. 
 

Pereira at West Brom would be a shout. Again, we’ll be priced out though I expect. 

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2 hours ago, Dusic said:

Vokins and Valery haven't even been on the bench for Sunderland or Birmingham in the last couple of games.

To be fair, the last game Vokins started he did well (apparently) and they won and kept a clean sheet. I'd guess he hasn't been a match squad since due to injury.

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4 hours ago, Streaky said:

R L C hasn't pulled up any trees at Fulham and has been on the bench since there form has improved. We can do better than that, and for less wages.

He’d also still cost £30m+ and £80k a week. Unless we can get him on a cut price deal, he’s not going to be coming to us. More likely to go somewhere who will spend money. 

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We will be shopping in bargain buckets this summer people. If it’s true  Ralph wants more depth then we’re looking at bringing in 3-4 players before we even get started. I’d expect one of those will be elyanoussi  coming back, we can’t sell him, we can’t afford to to bring anyone in so expect he’ll be used as a squad player. Expect we’ll sign Walcott and then bring in a couple of cheap journeymen cover full backs, the new Cuco Martina or perhaps some loans. Which is fine as cover. 

Expect us to sell Ings and probably Vestergaard, then use some of that cash for replacements. Salisu and Bednarek to be our starting pair next season with Stephens and a young, hungry and guaranteed to improve centre back brought in as 3rd and 4th choice. If we can finally get shot of Hoedt and Lemina then that might add a few quid in as well. Given the history doesn’t look likely though so maybe another year on loan before their contracts finish. The only major money would be on Ings replacement, hope there is something in the Tammy Abraham stories. Even if he wants £100k a week we’ve paid almost that to players who have been utter shite so no reason why we couldn’t push the boat out as a one off to buy proven quality 

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9 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Depends if Bertrand leaves. If he doesn't i could see us just bringing in one fullback.

Agree. Suspect it’ll be a full back to cover each side, which is fair enough. Can KWP play LB? I’m sure I saw he has before. 
 

I wonder if we’ll go back in for Tanganga? Seems like he has the sort of versatility we’re after, especially if Vestergaard goes. 

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16 hours ago, Dusic said:

Vokins and Valery haven't even been on the bench for Sunderland or Birmingham in the last couple of games.

Two full backs are surely the primary target, alongside an Ings replacement.

Some suggestions Vokins may have been one of the players who tested positive for Covid. Otherwise its odd that he hasn't even been in the squad since he had a good game.

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We’ve missed a creative player ever since Tadic left, we’ve not had anybody to thread a pass through a tightly packed defence. It used to make my head fall off watching Gabbi make great runs for 90 minutes whilst the likes of Hojbjerg would see it and bottle the pass. Eze would’ve been lovely last summer, glides past players but also has an eye for a pass, £20 mil too, shame. 

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Cash in on Ings, McCarthy and maybe Vestergaard.

Clear the deadwood of Hoedt, Lemina, Long, Slattery, any average player that clearly doesn’t have a future. I mean why do we continue to loan out Hesketh? He’s mid 20’s now and will never play for us again.

 

I’d love us to bring in young attacking players with potential like Max Aarons, Rabbi Matondo, Adam Armstrong; plus experienced EFL players.

When it comes to the CB position which will need sorting given Vestergaard only having a year left and Bednarek is prone to a few errors, we need to go for solid experience and reliability.

I could probably live with Forster as the GK for next season, Gunn I’d flog and McCarthy I’d never play again, least commanding goalkeeper I’ve seen.

As well as that blend of youth and potential we do need a spine of players who can take the game by the scruff of the neck, we need players that are ready now.

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something like this, with Eloyunossi coming back, would actually represent a realistic and pretty good window for us to be fair. 

Out

Ings 

Vestergaard 

dead wood (Hodet, Lemina etc.)

In

Abraham 

Tanganga 

Theo

Bertrand new deal or ideally a replacement 

 

Obviously ideally keep ings, but its not going to happen. Looks to be the case with Vestergaard as well (although it’s a lot quieter on this front, so a little more hope). 

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8 minutes ago, SKD said:

something like this, with Eloyunossi coming back, would actually represent a realistic and pretty good window for us to be fair. 

Out

Ings 

Vestergaard 

dead wood (Hodet, Lemina etc.)

In

Abraham 

Tanganga 

Bertrand new deal or ideally a replacement 

Playing Devil's advocate... 😉👼

1) If Vestergaard left we'd need another 1st team centre back, can't just have 3 with Salisu, Bednarek and Stephens.

2) I have doubts Abraham and Tanganga are realistic signings, nice if we could pull it off.

3) I've seen nothing from Elyounoussi that shows he is capable of performing at PL level. He looked completely out of his depth and lacking any skillset of note. What at Premier League level is something he is good at? 

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