CB Fry Posted 20 May, 2021 Share Posted 20 May, 2021 1 hour ago, DT said: Really hope this comes off and isn’t a replacement for JWP (Spurs?) or Romeu (J-league? (Isn’t he learning Japanese ?). If genuine addition and we’re not gazumped, we’ll done Saints As the season draws to a close, we can look forward to another summer where this guy can interpret every piece of transfer news for any given club as evidence that one of our players is leaving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 20 May, 2021 Share Posted 20 May, 2021 Hopefully Delaney signing would convince Vestergaard to extend his contract as well 🤞🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 May, 2021 Share Posted 20 May, 2021 14 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Hopefully Delaney signing would convince Vestergaard to extend his contract as well 🤞🏼 It wont have any effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 20 May, 2021 Share Posted 20 May, 2021 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Unless it finances promotion Also known as the Norwich/Watford/Fulham/WestBrom model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 11 hours ago, Dusic said: We didn't spend the money to sign Diallo and make him a 5th choice CM and 6th choice #10. We didn't sign him for that, but now he's here, that seems to be where he fits. He's not physical enough as a 6 or creative enough as a 10. Someone like Delaney is needed at 6 to improve us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: It wont have any effect. How do you know #oohdanishfriends 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 12 hours ago, Dusic said: We didn't spend the money to sign Diallo and make him a 5th choice CM and 6th choice #10. He won't be. This guy replaces Romeu in his role, Romeu drops to 4th choice, Diallo steadily improves to 3rd choice and plays against sides that are hard to break down and we need someone more press resistant. It's a squad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 1 hour ago, egg said: We didn't sign him for that, but now he's here, that seems to be where he fits. He's not physical enough as a 6 or creative enough as a 10. Someone like Delaney is needed at 6 to improve us there. You may be right - but I think Diallo will improve rapidly next season; he's not really that far away now, particularly in the CM role. A player like Delaney would give the Club great depth and variety in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 It would also help Diallo if we started playing him in CM and not as one of the 10's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: He won't be. This guy replaces Romeu in his role, Romeu drops to 4th choice, Diallo steadily improves to 3rd choice and plays against sides that are hard to break down and we need someone more press resistant. It's a squad game. I think we write off Romeu too quickly. We have missed him in his recent absence, so dropping to 4th choice to quickly could be a mistake. He is 29, so not too old and he has never had any pace, so won't decline as quickly as some. I think the key will be to get the right combination. JWP & Diallo just don't seem to work as well together and maybe Diallo needs a bit of physical muscle to complement his pace. If we were to get Thomas Delaney it wouldn't surprise me that JWP just became the new Right Back cover ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, WALK DMC said: I think we write off Romeu too quickly. We have missed him in his recent absence, so dropping to 4th choice to quickly could be a mistake. He is 29, so not too old and he has never had any pace, so won't decline as quickly as some. I think the key will be to get the right combination. JWP & Diallo just don't seem to work as well together and maybe Diallo needs a bit of physical muscle to complement his pace. If we were to get Thomas Delaney it wouldn't surprise me that JWP just became the new Right Back cover ...... JWP is in my opinion our best player, he covers the most ground, his set pieces win us about 10-15 points a season, he is an excellent progressive passer, and he is our captain. On top of that he has 15 goal involvements this term while pumping out 56 defensive actions this season, same as Fabinho and one more than Rice, second most recoveries of any player in the league. There is no chance at all he is dropped imo. Edited 21 May, 2021 by TWar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 44 minutes ago, WALK DMC said: I think we write off Romeu too quickly. We have missed him in his recent absence, so dropping to 4th choice to quickly could be a mistake. He is 29, so not too old and he has never had any pace, so won't decline as quickly as some. I think the key will be to get the right combination. JWP & Diallo just don't seem to work as well together and maybe Diallo needs a bit of physical muscle to complement his pace. If we were to get Thomas Delaney it wouldn't surprise me that JWP just became the new Right Back cover ...... 40 minutes ago, TWar said: JWP is in my opinion our best player, he covers the most ground, his set pieces win us about 10-15 points a season, he is an excellent progressive passer, and he is our captain. On top of that he has 15 goal involvements this term while pumping out 56 defensive actions this season, same as Fabinho and one more than Rice, second most recoveries of any player in the league. There is no chance at all he is dropped imo. Excuse me, I didn't explain myself well enough. I wasn't suggesting that they drop JWP, just that we find the right partner for him when he plays at central midfield. However, my main point is that were we to spend money on another centre midfielder, then we might not buy a deputy for KWP because we would have extra cover in midfield so JWP could play RB if KWP was injured. I have no insight on our budget, but I suspect it isn't substantial so we will probably make compromises and having players covering multiple positions might be one way of balancing the books. And yes, I don't like square pegs in round holes, but until we have some proper investment ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 44 minutes ago, WALK DMC said: Excuse me, I didn't explain myself well enough. I wasn't suggesting that they drop JWP, just that we find the right partner for him when he plays at central midfield. However, my main point is that were we to spend money on another centre midfielder, then we might not buy a deputy for KWP because we would have extra cover in midfield so JWP could play RB if KWP was injured. I have no insight on our budget, but I suspect it isn't substantial so we will probably make compromises and having players covering multiple positions might be one way of balancing the books. And yes, I don't like square pegs in round holes, but until we have some proper investment ...... Oh OK I get you, my bad, sorry I thought you ment to make "back-up RB" JWP's primary role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: JWP is in my opinion our best player, he covers the most ground, his set pieces win us about 10-15 points a season, he is an excellent progressive passer, and he is our captain. On top of that he has 15 goal involvements this term while pumping out 56 defensive actions this season, same as Fabinho and one more than Rice, second most recoveries of any player in the league. There is no chance at all he is dropped imo. JWP better than Ings? No chance. Ings is our best player by a long, long way. Providing Romeu is fit, We could cope without JWP. Without ings we really, really struggle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 6 minutes ago, SKD said: JWP better than Ings? No chance. Ings is our best player by a long, long way. Providing Romeu is fit, We could cope without JWP. Without ings we really, really struggle. They are pretty level. Both top top players. Ings when fully fit for an entire season is one of the best strikers in the league so probably would be him, but him remaining fully fit is a big ask. If asked who I would rather retain of the two and who I would sell I'd definitely keep JWP purely because of his safety and consistency, whilst still being a top top player. I actually don't know how we would cope without JWP as we haven't ever had to find out since Ralph came in and made him what he currently is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 20 minutes ago, SKD said: JWP better than Ings? No chance. Ings is our best player by a long, long way. Providing Romeu is fit, We could cope without JWP. Without ings we really, really struggle. How can you say that, when JWP never misses a game, so you can't make a comparison! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butthole_Surfer Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 On a side note… Hummel is from Denmark Delaney is from Denmark ah… absolute no connection there… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 May as well get in Eriksson in then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 And Schmeichel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 4 hours ago, woodsaint1 said: How do you know #oohdanishfriends Because he’s not some teenager from a provincial Peruvian town who needs some familiarity to help settle in. He’s a senior, professional football negotiating a multi-million pound contract. He speaks English. He doesn’t need some other Viking to discuss lusty maidens with over buckets of Tuborg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Because he’s not some teenager from a provincial Peruvian town who needs some familiarity to help settle in. He’s a senior, professional football negotiating a multi-million pound contract. He speaks English. He doesn’t need some other Viking to discuss lusty maidens with over buckets of Tuborg. It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Useful Idiot said: It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one! We have form for that even pre Les. Think Imants Bleidelis and Kleber Chala... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TWar said: They are pretty level. Both top top players. Ings when fully fit for an entire season is one of the best strikers in the league so probably would be him, but him remaining fully fit is a big ask. If asked who I would rather retain of the two and who I would sell I'd definitely keep JWP purely because of his safety and consistency, whilst still being a top top player. I actually don't know how we would cope without JWP as we haven't ever had to find out since Ralph came in and made him what he currently is. There is chance we could be a much better team without him. At the moment it seems every player has been given instructions to give the ball to JWP in the middle third but by making him the only pivot and creator we can be missing out massively on the teams natural flair and creativity. I'd like to see one game without him on the pitch to see how our fortunes change. Edited 21 May, 2021 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 In talks for Minamino apparently... fucking hope not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: We have form for that even pre Les. Think Imants Bleidelis and Kleber Chala... Alexis Cheradnick _ Sergi Gotsmanov Augustin Delgado - Kebler Chala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 52 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: In talks for Minamino apparently... fucking hope not. Bloody hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said: In talks for Minamino apparently... fucking hope not. Not sure he said that as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 8 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Not sure he said that as such. Phew! Hopefully got duped by one of the many Southampton-related Twitter accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 Nuno to Spurs then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 36 minutes ago, DT said: Nuno to Spurs then? Who cares, Alardyce is available to so could be him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, SKD said: JWP better than Ings? No chance. Ings is our best player by a long, long way. Providing Romeu is fit, We could cope without JWP. Without ings we really, really struggle. Disagree completely. JWP has basically made himself irreplaceable over the last few years, he is easily on par in ability IMO and is actually worth more to us because of the fact he is always available and so consistent. The simple fact we struggle without Ings shows one of his problems, he is too often not actually there to contribute to the team, whereas Ward-Prowse IS and consistently performs relentlessly, he even fills in other positions if needed and STILL plays well. In 3 years Ings has started 80 games for us and played 6,584 minutes. In the same 3 years JWP has started 96 games and played 8,692 minutes, he hasn't missed a MINUTE of football in 2 whole seasons, that is incredible levels of fitness, consistency and professionalism. You haven't seen us without JWP because he never misses a damn minute. His set piece delivery is basically unmatched in the league, he is worth it alone for that (and has pretty much matched Ings for goal contributions this year), his work rate is massive, he is our captain but also the guy that basically interprets the manager's instructions on the pitch, he links the midfield excellently, his progressive passing is massively important to how we play, he is excellent at breaking up play and starting attacks. If we had to replace one over the other, I actually think it would be more difficult to replace what JWP offers in one package than it would be Ings, excellent player though he is there is plenty history of teams of our level finding good striking gems out there who score 15+ goals in the league with breaking record transfers. We've done it enough times ourselves - Beattie, Pahars, Pelle, Lambert and Ings himself. Edited 21 May, 2021 by tajjuk 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 Not devaluing JWPs contribution, and there may be stats that prove me wrong. But I'd say he's actually the least progressive passer in our midfield? I notice Romeu and Diallo both looking for a forward pass more often than Ward-Prowse, as does Armstrong when he's playing in the middle. Aside from his lack of pace, it's probably the one thing you can hold against him - he's so determined to protect the ball that his body shape often demands a sideways pass rather than a forward one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 8 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: In talks for Minamino apparently... fucking hope not. 7 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Not sure he said that as such. I stand corrected, @Saint Matty 76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) Re: positions to target in the transfer market: “Fullbacks, wingers & other positions” said Ralph in presser. “No.6” not as urgent. Edited 21 May, 2021 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Useful Idiot said: It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one! 17 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: We have form for that even pre Les. Think Imants Bleidelis and Kleber Chala... I feel like MLG here but it is not really comparable. Virgil had already been in Scotland for two seasons and with us for two more before Hoedt turned up. He hardly needed a friend to help him settle in. Kleber Chala didn't cost £15m. Edited 22 May, 2021 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 Did we really bring in Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company or is this one of those Saintsweb fictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Did we really bring in Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company or is this one of those Saintsweb fictions? It's a SWF work of fiction. Just like: Jermaine Wright's 'must play if fit' contract. Jose Fonte being forced out of the club Ralph only plays Minamino because Klopp told him off and we were very scared and do whatever Liverpool tell us. If we'd waited another month to sell Mane, we'd have got £60m. Sofiane Boufal was never given a fair chance. There's a real chance of Fulham overhauling a 10 point deficit in 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 Just now, Lighthouse said: It's a SWF work of fiction. Just like: Jermaine Wright's 'must play if fit' contract. Jose Fonte being forced out of the club Ralph only plays Minamino because Klopp told him off and we were very scared and do whatever Liverpool tell us. If we'd waited another month to sell Mane, we'd have got £60m. Sofiane Boufal was never given a fair chance. There's a real chance of Fulham overhauling a 10 point deficit in 4 games. Don't forget Hesketh and Sims should be given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 May, 2021 Share Posted 21 May, 2021 14 hours ago, TWar said: JWP is in my opinion our best player, he covers the most ground, his set pieces win us about 10-15 points a season, he is an excellent progressive passer, and he is our captain. On top of that he has 15 goal involvements this term while pumping out 56 defensive actions this season, same as Fabinho and one more than Rice, second most recoveries of any player in the league. There is no chance at all he is dropped imo. I agree he is our most important player (not best, in terms of best at their role then I would probably say Ings) and our engine, and in no way will he be dropped... ...IF he stays. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he weren't here at the start of next season, and Delaney is more a replacement than a partner. All IMO of course and probably a conversation for another day, but he's a jewel in our crown and we all know what SFC does to jewels in our crown. The money he would fetch alone would fund for a bloody good rebuild of the squad at the prices we tend to pay for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 6 hours ago, Lighthouse said: It's a SWF work of fiction. Just like: Jermaine Wright's 'must play if fit' contract. Jose Fonte being forced out of the club Ralph only plays Minamino because Klopp told him off and we were very scared and do whatever Liverpool tell us. If we'd waited another month to sell Mane, we'd have got £60m. Sofiane Boufal was never given a fair chance. There's a real chance of Fulham overhauling a 10 point deficit in 4 games. Morgan Schneiderlin was an Arsenal player from the very start, just on loan to us in a secret deal. As soon as he gets any good he will join them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 22 hours ago, austsaint said: You may be right - but I think Diallo will improve rapidly next season; he's not really that far away now, particularly in the CM role. A player like Delaney would give the Club great depth and variety in midfield Delaney is 29 ffs..........i know Walcott is 32 or something ,so what are we hoping for experience, muscle,backbone or just a calming influence on our fragile mind set? or is it the price range?.A lot of housekeeping and all that before we get excited as to who might be here for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 8 hours ago, Lighthouse said: It's a SWF work of fiction. Just like: Jermaine Wright's 'must play if fit' contract. Jose Fonte being forced out of the club Ralph only plays Minamino because Klopp told him off and we were very scared and do whatever Liverpool tell us. If we'd waited another month to sell Mane, we'd have got £60m. Sofiane Boufal was never given a fair chance. There's a real chance of Fulham overhauling a 10 point deficit in 4 games. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurosport.com/football/southampton-sign-wesley-hoedt-to-play-alongside-virgil-van-dijk_sto6297565/story-amp.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 6 minutes ago, Useful Idiot said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eurosport.com/football/southampton-sign-wesley-hoedt-to-play-alongside-virgil-van-dijk_sto6297565/story-amp.shtml Yes, we know. Thats not the same as Kleber Chala and Imants Bleidelis. Virgil had signed for us two seasons before. The main reason they went big on "he's going to play WITH Virgil" was to counter the rumours that Hoedt was the replacement and proof we were about to sell Van Dijk that window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 6 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Yes, we know. Thats not the same as Kleber Chala and Imants Bleidelis. Virgil had signed for us two seasons before. The main reason they went big on "he's going to play WITH Virgil" was to counter the rumours that Hoedt was the replacement and proof we were about to sell Van Dijk that window. So you mean it's a similar situation to the idea I replied to when I posted the initial message in response to the idea that Delaney might be being signed to keep Vest. company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Useful Idiot said: So you mean it's a similar situation to the idea I replied to when I posted the initial message in response to the idea that Delaney might be being signed to keep Vest. company? You'll have to show me that post. All I can see is this: 19 hours ago, Useful Idiot said: It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one! Where the premise is completely false. Hoedt wasn't bought to keep company with an older Dutch man who had already been living in Britain for four years. Edited 22 May, 2021 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 10 minutes ago, CB Fry said: You'll have to show me that post. All I can see is this: Where the premise is completely false. Hoedt wasn't bought to keep company with an older Dutch man who had already been living in Britain for four years. Woodsaint posted: "Hopefully Delaney signing would convince Vestergaard to extend his contract as well 🤞🏼" To which Lighthouse replied: "It wont have any effect." To which Woodhouse stated: "How do you know #oohdanishfriends" Lighthouse then posted "Because he’s not some teenager from a provincial Peruvian town who needs some familiarity to help settle in. He’s a senior, professional football negotiating a multi-million pound contract. He speaks English. He doesn’t need some other Viking to discuss lusty maidens with over buckets of Tuborg. " To which I replied: "It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one!" There you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Useful Idiot said: Woodsaint posted: "Hopefully Delaney signing would convince Vestergaard to extend his contract as well 🤞🏼" To which Lighthouse replied: "It wont have any effect." To which Woodhouse stated: "How do you know #oohdanishfriends" Lighthouse then posted "Because he’s not some teenager from a provincial Peruvian town who needs some familiarity to help settle in. He’s a senior, professional football negotiating a multi-million pound contract. He speaks English. He doesn’t need some other Viking to discuss lusty maidens with over buckets of Tuborg. " To which I replied: "It's a bit like Les Reed's genius move of buying Hoedt to keep Van Dijk company. Worked a charm, that one!" There you go! I agree with Lighthouse, of course. I still have no idea that you need to pretend there was a "genius move" around Hoedt when that wasn't even a concept at the time, no one breathing air believed he was signed to make Virgil stay. You're using it as proof of a failed idea (including posting up that link) but it wasn't an idea and no one at all thought it was. Edited 22 May, 2021 by CB Fry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 May, 2021 Share Posted 22 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I agree with Lighthouse, of course. I still have no idea that you need to pretend there was a "genius move" around Hoedt when that wasn't even a concept at the time, no one breathing air believed he was signed to make Virgil stay. You're using it as proof of a failed idea (including posting up that link) but it wasn't an idea and no one at all thought it was. if anyone was signed just to give Van Dijk a Dutch friend that they could go out for a couple of Henikens with then Jordy Claise was signed the same summer as Van Dijk, who is like you know Dutch. But Claise wasn’t signed just to be Van Dijks Dutch friend either. The idea anyone was is complete bollox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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