TWar Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 I suspect £10m won't be the maximum, it'll more likely be the average. When talking about the sort of signings we will make Ralph referenced KWP and Diallo who both went for ~£15m. My ideal three signings would be Henry, Danjuma, and Ings contract renewal. Beyond that, even if Vest left, I'd be reasonably happy. Get some depth options in and we have a good summer. I don't think CM will be that important personally with Armstrong being able to adapt there. If JWP or Romeu get injured then Diallo can step up or Armstrong can drop back and we can play Djenepo next to Danjuma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 Update on Olise and others. Had a really good chat with someone high up at Reading and a few snippets below: We remain interested along with a few other PL clubs. They have a bid on the table from one of the promoted clubs (my guess is Watford) but that's nowhere near money they are looking for. Contract offer on the table from RFC to make him one of highest earners (helps that Aluko's £50k a week contract is up!) But club not confident he'll sign and they've told him a decision needs to be made this summer (either sign new deal or leave). His parents and agent are very vocal about his potential and I get the impression the relationship between RFC/parents isn't the best. The club feel he changes his mind often and wouldn't be surprised if he spends about 2 seasons at clubs before moving on; he's set to switch international allegiance from France, but not to England. The feeling from within RFC is that, whilst we like him, others are hotter on him than we are. Interestingly we nearly signed him when he was 16, he got released from Chelsea but decided to stay closer to home with RFC. On another note, we seem to be "almost impossible" to beat when it comes to signing young talent around North Hants/Thames Valley region, especially with the younger players and we're being very aggressive with recruitment, which adds to their annoyance as we beat them to signing Chauke and pinched Diamond Edwards off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 5 minutes ago, supersonic said: Update on Olise and others. Had a really good chat with someone high up at Reading and a few snippets below: We remain interested along with a few other PL clubs. They have a bid on the table from one of the promoted clubs (my guess is Watford) but that's nowhere near money they are looking for. Contract offer on the table from RFC to make him one of highest earners (helps that Aluko's £50k a week contract is up!) But club not confident he'll sign and they've told him a decision needs to be made this summer (either sign new deal or leave). His parents and agent are very vocal about his potential and I get the impression the relationship between RFC/parents isn't the best. The club feel he changes his mind often and wouldn't be surprised if he spends about 2 seasons at clubs before moving on; he's set to switch international allegiance from France, but not to England. The feeling from within RFC is that, whilst we like him, others are hotter on him than we are. Interestingly we nearly signed him when he was 16, he got released from Chelsea but decided to stay closer to home with RFC. On another note, we seem to be "almost impossible" to beat when it comes to signing young talent around North Hants/Thames Valley region, especially with the younger players and we're being very aggressive with recruitment, which adds to their annoyance as we beat them to signing Chauke and pinched Diamond Edwards off them. Cheers for the update. Sounds a bit like like us & Eze. We allegedly liked him, but the budget didn’t stretch, as we had other positions to prioritise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 6 hours ago, Convict Colony said: It depends on the interpretation of this i think. Is it a player who was/is a 20/15mil player in the normal climate now worth 10mil cos his club are skint and need money Or are we only looking at players who are 10mil under because of the exposure and age etc. Either way I'm an optimist and we'll get what we need. we never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeremy Corbyn Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: What's the opposite of "a warm fuzzy feeling"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 26 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Is that “very far away from” a replacement... or “very far down the line”? I’m pretty sure we can take a stab in the dark at which one... 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 33 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Waiting to see if Brentford screw up the playoffs, hopefully 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Is that “very far away from” a replacement... or “very far down the line”? I’m pretty sure we can take a stab in the dark at which one... 😬 Very far down the line. It was more obvious in the presser I thought. Unfortunately this probably means not Rico Henry as I can't imagine we will have moved very far at all before knowing if they will be promoted or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, TWar said: Very far down the line. It was more obvious in the presser I thought. Unfortunately this probably means not Rico Henry as I can't imagine we will have moved very far at all before knowing if they will be promoted or not. So he meant very far down the line as in very close, not very far as in miles away from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: So he meant very far down the line as in very close, not very far as in miles away from? I think so, although I was only half listening while at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 hours ago, supersonic said: The club feel he changes his mind often and wouldn't be surprised if he spends about 2 seasons at clubs before moving on; he's set to switch international allegiance from France, but not to England. Nigeria. Thanks for the update - some interesting snippets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 1 hour ago, qwertyell said: Nigeria. Thanks for the update - some interesting snippets. He's also eligible for Algeria via his mother so it could be those. Lots of interest internationally given the year he's had. Not a problem on the info, the academy stuff sounds promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 3 hours ago, supersonic said: Update on Olise and others. Had a really good chat with someone high up at Reading and a few snippets below: We remain interested along with a few other PL clubs. They have a bid on the table from one of the promoted clubs (my guess is Watford) but that's nowhere near money they are looking for. Contract offer on the table from RFC to make him one of highest earners (helps that Aluko's £50k a week contract is up!) But club not confident he'll sign and they've told him a decision needs to be made this summer (either sign new deal or leave). His parents and agent are very vocal about his potential and I get the impression the relationship between RFC/parents isn't the best. The club feel he changes his mind often and wouldn't be surprised if he spends about 2 seasons at clubs before moving on; he's set to switch international allegiance from France, but not to England. The feeling from within RFC is that, whilst we like him, others are hotter on him than we are. Interestingly we nearly signed him when he was 16, he got released from Chelsea but decided to stay closer to home with RFC. On another note, we seem to be "almost impossible" to beat when it comes to signing young talent around North Hants/Thames Valley region, especially with the younger players and we're being very aggressive with recruitment, which adds to their annoyance as we beat them to signing Chauke and pinched Diamond Edwards off them. That was really interesting, thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 2 hours ago, TWar said: Very far down the line. It was more obvious in the presser I thought. Unfortunately this probably means not Rico Henry as I can't imagine we will have moved very far at all before knowing if they will be promoted or not. I wouldn't read too much into it, at this stage of last season we were in advanced discussions and 'about to sign, before the season ended' the right back from Gronigen (Zeefuik or whatever) but that rumbled on until he eventually got his move to Hertha Berlin. After which we signed KWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinSFC Posted 13 May, 2021 Share Posted 13 May, 2021 4 hours ago, supersonic said: On another note, we seem to be "almost impossible" to beat when it comes to signing young talent around North Hants/Thames Valley region, especially with the younger players and we're being very aggressive with recruitment, which adds to their annoyance as we beat them to signing Chauke and pinched Diamond Edwards off them. I can't remember where or saw it or who said it, but I read somewhere (not on here) that we're struggling against Brighton for talent? Apparently they're muscling in on a lot of our youth targets or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 Annual link to another Celtic player ✅ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108180/celtic-edouard-southampton-join-transfer-fight/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1620942768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Annual link to another Celtic player ✅ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108180/celtic-edouard-southampton-join-transfer-fight/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1620942768 Approaching final year of contract...so should be cheapish then just like us flogging ings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 27 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Approaching final year of contract...so should be cheapish then just like us flogging ings? Doubt he’d be £10m. Could see him going to Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 Think only chance we would have is if we offered Mo as part of the deal to bring down the overall cost to us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 minute ago, EBS1980 said: Think only chance we would have is if we offered Mo as part of the deal to bring down the overall cost to us! Throw FF into the mix as well .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: Think only chance we would have is if we offered Mo as part of the deal to bring down the overall cost to us! Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Good point. Forster and Moi in part exchange for Edouard? Yes yes yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 Very good scouting report on him from Smarterscout - https://smarterscout.com/articles/premier-league-odsonne-edouard-celtic-fc-scottish-premiership-sergio-aguero-manchester-city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Annual link to another Celtic player ✅ https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7108180/celtic-edouard-southampton-join-transfer-fight/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1620942768 No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, SKD said: No chance. Half a chance IF we sold Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Badger said: Throw FF into the mix as well .... I'd rather we keep our best keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: I'd rather we keep our best keeper. Matter of opinion as to whether he is our best keeper, both are capable of a good save or block one minute and a howler. I'd rather see an upgrade on him/them (but as you'll probably be quick to point out we can't afford it...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Badger said: Matter of opinion as to whether he is our best keeper, both are capable of a good save or block one minute and a howler. I'd rather see an upgrade on him/them (but as you'll probably be quick to point out we can't afford it...). Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 7 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Exactly. and also, Forster is better 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Very good scouting report on him from Smarterscout - https://smarterscout.com/articles/premier-league-odsonne-edouard-celtic-fc-scottish-premiership-sergio-aguero-manchester-city Would take him in a heartbeat. Chuck Mo in there for good measure, would suggest Shane Long as well but his family won't move that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 Edouard is really good, pretty sure he'll go Leicester though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 hour ago, supersonic said: Would take him in a heartbeat. Chuck Mo in there for good measure, would suggest Shane Long as well but his family won't move that far Obafemi and Hoedt too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 27 minutes ago, Suhari said: Obafemi and Hoedt too! I'd rather keep MO and give them N'Lundulu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Edouard is really good, pretty sure he'll go Leicester though. Leicester dont seem short of options up top though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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supersonic Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 17 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Stephens out of position in that picture. Standard. Not overly excited by this rumour if honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 I guess he’s shown he’s got talent in the past but he does seem to have gone backwards and now isn’t a kid anymore. Doesn’t seem to fit ralph’s style either. We do seem to be linked to him a lot so maybe Ralph sees something he can use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 39 minutes ago, supersonic said: Stephens out of position in that picture. Standard. Not overly excited by this rumour if honest as Loftus-Cheek passes back to the keeper 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 14 May, 2021 Share Posted 14 May, 2021 1 hour ago, supersonic said: Stephens out of position in that picture. Standard. Not overly excited by this rumour if honest I am, very good player. Assume Chelsea would want over 20 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: I am, very good player. Assume Chelsea would want over 20 though. For a loan? Seems excessive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 6 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: I am, very good player. Assume Chelsea would want over 20 though. You haven’t watched him much this season then he has been poor and not in Fulham starting side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 9 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: This rumour popped up last summer too, and amounted to nothing - as it most likely will this summer. I can't believe for one minute that our recruitment team haven't noted his absolute unsuitability to Hasenhuttl's playing style. Loftus-Cheek is a good player on the ball, but he simply cannot press out of possession. It's not that the lad doesn't try, but he's just got no engine, never has had. He's a stroller. If you make him run, he's out on his feet in less than an hour. I'd be amazed if there's anything in this. We've only got room for two PL loans - we're not wasting one on this guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 9 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: The player we should have signed on loan, rather than Theo. Will add a touch of creativity and class to our midfield, something were lacking. Won’t be cheap, but a try before you buy there’s little to no risk. Remember, a lot turned their nose up at lingard and look how he’s done in the right environment. A big yes from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 15 minutes ago, qwertyell said: This rumour popped up last summer too, and amounted to nothing - as it most likely will this summer. I can't believe for one minute that our recruitment team haven't noted his absolute unsuitability to Hasenhuttl's playing style. Loftus-Cheek is a good player on the ball, but he simply cannot press out of possession. It's not that the lad doesn't try, but he's just got no engine, never has had. He's a stroller. If you make him run, he's out on his feet in less than an hour. I'd be amazed if there's anything in this. We've only got room for two PL loans - we're not wasting one on this guy. 100% agree - worth also remembering he's also got a pretty patchy injury record too. I can't believe there is anything in this one (apart from some lazy journalism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 25 minutes ago, qwertyell said: This rumour popped up last summer too, and amounted to nothing - as it most likely will this summer. I can't believe for one minute that our recruitment team haven't noted his absolute unsuitability to Hasenhuttl's playing style. Loftus-Cheek is a good player on the ball, but he simply cannot press out of possession. It's not that the lad doesn't try, but he's just got no engine, never has had. He's a stroller. If you make him run, he's out on his feet in less than an hour. I'd be amazed if there's anything in this. We've only got room for two PL loans - we're not wasting one on this guy. 8 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: 100% agree - worth also remembering he's also got a pretty patchy injury record too. I can't believe there is anything in this one (apart from some lazy journalism) What’s funny about this is that we were 100% absolutely interested in him. Ralph said this in the embargoed press conference for the Fulham match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qwertyell Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: What’s funny about this is that we were 100% absolutely interested in him. Ralph said this in the embargoed press conference for the Fulham match. You're right - that is funny. Didn't know that. The mind boggles. He's not a player that makes any sense for us. (Guaranteed man of the match performance this afternoon in a Fulham stroll now...) Edited 15 May, 2021 by qwertyell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 RLC has been pretty underwhelming for Fulham but they have been playing him quite high up in an attacking role. Maybe we feel we can convert him into a 6 and play him next to JWP, Romeu or Diallo. As others have said, doesn't have much of an engine so don't have much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Loftus-Cheek doesn’t suit our playing style at all, but on his day can be a good player, as he’s shown earlier in his Chelsea career, some England appearances and did well at Palace (stood out probably due to quality around him). JWP won’t be pleased to have to run an extra 30% in matches to accommodate him though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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