SuperSAINT Posted 9 May, 2021 Share Posted 9 May, 2021 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: I'm fairly sure you can only loan two players from the PL - both have to be from separate clubs. There can be another 2 brought from outside in Europe. West Brom bought in Okay, Diagne from Europe. And then added Maintland Niles and Gallagher from the PL clubs. Think this is right. Fulham went crazy and got 6 in on loan, but can only play 4 at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 May, 2021 Share Posted 9 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Think this is right. Fulham went crazy and got 6 in on loan, but can only play 4 at once? Didn't think about Fulham, that's confused me a bit now I've looked at their loans. They have Lookman, Lemina, Aina, Areola, Lofus-Cheek, Maja, Andersen all on loan...and I'm fairly sure they've all been in the same match day squad on multiple occasions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 9 May, 2021 Share Posted 9 May, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'm fairly sure you can only loan two players from the PL - both have to be from separate clubs. There can be another 2 brought from outside in Europe. West Brom bought in Okay, Diagne from Europe. And then added Maintland Niles and Gallagher from the PL clubs. Ah yes that makes sense - although technically you could probably loan unlimited players if they don't affect the "25 man squad" criteria? So a max 4. can be registered into the 25-man squads, of which a max. of 2 can be from PL clubs. For example, Diallo and Salisu aren't actually in our 25 man squads Edited 9 May, 2021 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 May, 2021 Share Posted 9 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Didn't think about Fulham, that's confused me a bit now I've looked at their loans. They have Lookman, Lemina, Aina, Areola, Lofus-Cheek, Maja, Andersen all on loan...and I'm fairly sure they've all been in the same match day squad on multiple occasions? Forgot about Maja. You're right. Maja / Aina / Lookman / TonicLikeLeminaAde / Andersen / Areola all started vs Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 9 May, 2021 Share Posted 9 May, 2021 1 hour ago, SKD said: 8 players!? 😂😂 I don't think he's wrong. We have 16 first team players under contract beyond 2022 and that includes Gunn, Valery, Vokins, Smallbone, Tella and Elyounoussi. Then there is the £80m loan. We didn't take it just to have it sitting in the bank account. I expect us to spend quite a bit this year to take advantage of the pandemic discounts and rebuild the squad. Then spend next to nothing in the next couple of years to pay back the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 (edited) Just a random thought, Grady Diagana from West Brom for the Left wing position, has qualities that would work in our side. Probably too expensive even with Wet Brom going down but maybe Gao could ask their owners Also interesting from The Athletic this morning about Marc Guehi. The deadline to activate that clause was not until May 15 but Chelsea saw no reason to delay making a decision about a player who is highly regarded at Stamford Bridge and the subject of serious interest from Premier League clubs, including Crystal Palace and Southampton, as well as Borussia Monchengladbach in the Bundesliga. Further talks about Guehi’s future will take place in the summer when Chelsea will decide whether to allow him to spend a third successive season on loan — he will almost certainly sign an extended contract on improved terms if that turns out to the case — or cash in on a player whose market value is expected to be in the region of £15-20 million. Edited 10 May, 2021 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 10 hours ago, Cartman said: I don't think he's wrong. We have 16 first team players under contract beyond 2022 and that includes Gunn, Valery, Vokins, Smallbone, Tella and Elyounoussi. Then there is the £80m loan. We didn't take it just to have it sitting in the bank account. I expect us to spend quite a bit this year to take advantage of the pandemic discounts and rebuild the squad. Then spend next to nothing in the next couple of years to pay back the loan. The loan was taken to cover the losses of covid, not to be spunked on players. That’s already been said. There is absolutely no way we’ll bring in 8 first team players and if in the unlikely event we do, they’ll be more shite that aren’t going to help us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 (edited) My best guess perhaps optimistic would be: A LB and a player who can play R/LB as cover. An attacking midfielder most likely Theo A Striker and another if Ings leaves. Edited 10 May, 2021 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 Should probably be in a HCDAJFU thread but how about Lookman - attacking winger, on loan from Leipzig so I suspect Ralph knows of him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 19 minutes ago, SKD said: My best guess perhaps optimistic would be: A LB and a player who can play R/LB as cover. An attacking midfielder most likely Theo A Striker and another if Ings leaves. I thought a lot of people on here champion not spending money on players as we dont want to block the pathway for the youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, ozzmeister said: Should probably be in a HCDAJFU thread but how about Lookman - attacking winger, on loan from Leipzig so I suspect Ralph knows of him already. Would be a lot better than Walcott, that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 1 hour ago, ozzmeister said: Should probably be in a HCDAJFU thread but how about Lookman - attacking winger, on loan from Leipzig so I suspect Ralph knows of him already. as successful as Aguaro too... at Panenka penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 1 hour ago, ozzmeister said: Should probably be in a HCDAJFU thread but how about Lookman - attacking winger, on loan from Leipzig so I suspect Ralph knows of him already. I’ve wanted us to get him since his Charlton days. Problem with him is he would be at least double our £10m player budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 On 09/05/2021 at 09:00, Chez said: When he came off the bench for Liverpool last night, he crossed my mind too, I was thinking he perhaps might not be in Liverpools plans anymore. I imagine as he is £40m player, his wages would be prohibitive, but putting that to one side, I also wonder what position he would play? For me, without question when he played right midfield for us, bombing up and down the line, that was when he was at his best. Arsenal and Liverpool haven't ever really played him in that role - which was a mistake IMO. I wonder if he still has that lung busting game in him. If he does, then I'd be very interested. He doesn't want to be a Winger he wants to be CM box to box player / AM - that's why he /wasn't isn't played on the wing for either of those sides Used to love him at saints taking people on and shooting from anywhere - used to get me up off my feet - unsure if he the same type of player these days He injury record isn't as bad as I thought 🙄 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-oxlade-chamberlain/verletzungen/spieler/143424 wages are £120k pw - would have to be halves again (ala Theo) but don't see it happening! it not like he is Theo at the end of his career - I am sure he thinks he can do a job at a BIG FOUR / SIX club or abroad Sure Perrie wouldn't mind coming to live in London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 2 hours ago, ozzmeister said: Should probably be in a HCDAJFU thread but how about Lookman - attacking winger, on loan from Leipzig so I suspect Ralph knows of him already. Would love Lookman, has looked great for Fulham, he’s still only 23 and relatively inexperienced in football terms with this being his best season in terms of appearances in the Prem. There’s a few in that Fulham team that would be worth looking at, but not sure if we will. Antonee Robinson at LB, Loftus-Cheek, Andersen at CB. Few of their good players are on loan there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 Ralph on sky just now ..‘Theo will be here to help us next season sometimes from the bench’ so there it is .. another Shane long contract ffs 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 13 hours ago, Cartman said: I don't think he's wrong. We have 16 first team players under contract beyond 2022 and that includes Gunn, Valery, Vokins, Smallbone, Tella and Elyounoussi. Then there is the £80m loan. We didn't take it just to have it sitting in the bank account. I expect us to spend quite a bit this year to take advantage of the pandemic discounts and rebuild the squad. Then spend next to nothing in the next couple of years to pay back the loan. Do you really think we have £80m sitting in the bank waiting to be spent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 15 hours ago, MarkSFC said: It can't be underestimated the value of one or two players of Theos history within the club, playing experience, winning, and international experience. What he may be lacking on the field ideally he will add tones during the day job and Semmens alluded to this aspect being part of the reason. I don't disagree but that is a luxury for us right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: I don't disagree but that is a luxury for us right now You never know after Semmens comment in the forum about surprised the investment hasnt already happened maybe we have a budget that indulges this sort of quality luxury player. Also if Ings re-signs that might be a sign we are doing some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 27 minutes ago, Chris cooper said: Ralph on sky just now ..‘Theo will be here to help us next season sometimes from the bench’ so there it is .. another Shane long contract ffs 🤦♂️ See, I see this as a sign we are getting better than Theo, better than what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 (edited) Think Theo was always expected to be an option off the bench this season. The injuries and shit form of the competition has meant he’s played a lot more, and despite what you read on here, he has had some good games. I’d rather have him than have no one, and any alternative is going to cost £10mil+ which we can’t afford if their purpose is to just ‘be an option’. It’s low risk and his influence around the team is a positive one, we can afford it, and he’s another body on the bench. Edited 10 May, 2021 by saintwbu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 26 minutes ago, IFHP said: Do you really think we have £80m sitting in the bank waiting to be spent? £87m actually, look at the 4th post on page 13. Doesn't mean that we will spend it all on transfer fees obviously, but only Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool have more cash in the bank than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 1 hour ago, saintwbu said: Would love Lookman, has looked great for Fulham, he’s still only 23 and relatively inexperienced in football terms with this being his best season in terms of appearances in the Prem. There’s a few in that Fulham team that would be worth looking at, but not sure if we will. Antonee Robinson at LB, Loftus-Cheek, Andersen at CB. Few of their good players are on loan there anyway. lookman or Anguissa (though Anguissa is on £70k pw) or Robinson IMO https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ademola-lookman/profil/spieler/406040 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/andre-zambo-anguissa/profil/spieler/354361 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/antonee-robinson/profil/spieler/349701 IIRC both Lookman and Anguissa are loans from foreign clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, le_tiss said: lookman or Anguissa (though Anguissa is on £70k pw) or Robinson IMO https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ademola-lookman/profil/spieler/406040 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/andre-zambo-anguissa/profil/spieler/354361 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/antonee-robinson/profil/spieler/349701 IIRC both Lookman and Anguissa are loans from foreign clubs Loookman is at RBL. But Anguissa is a Fulham player. He was loaned out by FFC when they went down the last time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 Due to speak to a contact this week who'll give me an update, if any, on the Olise interest. I'll post of anything has developed but I know he's in high demand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 4 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Ralph on sky just now ..‘Theo will be here to help us next season sometimes from the bench’ so there it is .. another Shane long contract ffs 🤦♂️ Not quite, as he is a better player than Shane Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 Is he? Curious as to how you come to that conclusion? Wondering what metrics are at play, and what statistical analysis you’ve completed before expressing that view as fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chewy said: Is he? Curious as to how you come to that conclusion? Wondering what metrics are at play, and what statistical analysis you’ve completed before expressing that view as fact? I didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 Sean Roughan on trial from Lincoln, played against Everton for U23s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: I didn't Not quite, as he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as a fact Not quite, as I think/I believe/IMHO he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Not quite, as he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as a fact Not quite, as I think/I believe/IMHO he is a better player than Shane Long. <- Statement as an opinion. It is pretty obvious a statement such as that is opinion. Quality of players is subjective, so clarification wasn't required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: It is pretty obvious a statement such as that is opinion. Quality of players is subjective, so clarification wasn't required. Messi is a better player than Long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 (edited) Just now, Dark Munster said: Messi is a better player than Long. Yep, he is and that is an opinion Edited 10 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Yep, he is And it's a fact! Edited 10 May, 2021 by Dark Munster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 5 hours ago, Cartman said: £87m actually, look at the 4th post on page 13. Doesn't mean that we will spend it all on transfer fees obviously, but only Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool have more cash in the bank than us. Absolutely irrelevant. None of that will be spent on players, it’s to cover the cost of Covid and to help cash flow. If the club don’t spend any of it and give it back in 5 years. Then I think they’ll be happy with that. It’s 100% there to not be spent on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said: Absolutely irrelevant. None of that will be spent on players, it’s to cover the cost of Covid and to help cash flow. If the club don’t spend any of it and give it back in 5 years. Then I think they’ll be happy with that. It’s 100% there to not be spent on players. Where did you get this information from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Verbal said: Where did you get this information from? Club have mentioned it more than once. There to help through lack of income due to covid. The club is meant to be self sustainable, and using a £75m loan on transfers isn’t sustainable….club gets no money from the owner. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Club have mentioned it more than once. There to help through lack of income due to covid. The club is meant to be self sustainable, and using a £75m loan on transfers isn’t sustainable….club gets no money from the owner. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 22 minutes ago, Verbal said: Link? Without looking very far, details in here https://theathletic.com/2319471/2021/01/13/southampton-accounts-losses-football-soccer/ Probably in multiple other sites if you google MSD loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 23 hours ago, VectisSaint said: Either Forster or McCarthy will go, new young keeper in as #2 (Toby Savin I suspect Saints need to join the queue for him. He's a hot prospect others will be very interested. Moving on Foster or McCarthy, will be easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Absolutely irrelevant. None of that will be spent on players, it’s to cover the cost of Covid and to help cash flow. If the club don’t spend any of it and give it back in 5 years. Then I think they’ll be happy with that. It’s 100% there to not be spent on players. For some reason, you seem to think that buying players isn't part of a club's normal operation. Of course the loan was mainly taken because of covid, so that the club operates as normal during this period, that includes buying players as needed. However, we took out a loan for almost £80m when our matchday revenue, which accounts for almost all of the lost revenue, was worth just £17m in 2018/19. Why such a big loan? Half that would have been more than enough to cover losses due to the pandemic. Why do we need such a large amount of cash sitting in the bank account and other clubs don't? And have you seen how many players we will have under contract just over a year from now? Not even a full bench. Yet you think the club took a large loan just for the privilege of having it in the account and then paying it back with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2021 Share Posted 10 May, 2021 What Ralph Hasenhuttl has told Southampton's board regarding clear summer transfer window demand: https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/transfer-news/ralph-hasenhuttl-southampton-transfer-window-5396081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 Interesting article here on Sean Roughan who we had on trial last week. Analysis of Sean Roughan’s trial with Southampton | The Stacey West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, WALK DMC said: Interesting article here on Sean Roughan who we had on trial last week. Analysis of Sean Roughan’s trial with Southampton | The Stacey West Ralph said in the part 2 of the press conference that we need to boost the academy ranks with signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 would anyone take a punt on Mitrovic? Decent goal ration for Fulham and impressive international ratio too. Not much of a goal return this season but Fulham were pretty shite for 80% of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, skintsaint said: would anyone take a punt on Mitrovic? Decent goal ration for Fulham and impressive international ratio too. Not much of a goal return this season but Fulham were pretty shite for 80% of it. Nah, one of the reasons Fulham barely played him is because he is a target-man style forward and no one really plays with them anymore, including us. His play round the box and passing are apparently dreadful. Wouldn't suit our playstyle at all tbh. Edited 11 May, 2021 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 26 minutes ago, skintsaint said: would anyone take a punt on Mitrovic? Decent goal ration for Fulham and impressive international ratio too. Not much of a goal return this season but Fulham were pretty shite for 80% of it. Fulham create loads of chances just forwards are sh1te and missed most which is why relegated. To answer you not in a million years we already have one that can run around link it hold it up better than him that can’t score in a brothel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: would anyone take a punt on Mitrovic? Decent goal ration for Fulham and impressive international ratio too. Not much of a goal return this season but Fulham were pretty shite for 80% of it. Not sure there is a huge amount of difference between him and Adams tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 11 May, 2021 Share Posted 11 May, 2021 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: would anyone take a punt on Mitrovic? Decent goal ration for Fulham and impressive international ratio too. Not much of a goal return this season but Fulham were pretty shite for 80% of it. Are you serious? He looks and acts like a lumbering Ox. Has no sense of reading the game or how to involve himself and stands around like a spare whatknot at a wedding most of the time. Adams is twice the player and he has hardly set the stage alight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 11 May, 2021 Author Share Posted 11 May, 2021 Based on everything Ralph, Semmens and Crocker have said, and experience in recent times, it is very unlikely we are going to be signing anyone for a fee from another PL side, relegated or not. Besides, Mitrovic and pressing goes together like Shane Long and composure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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