Summer Transfer Window 2021

[Teddeer]

1 hour ago, Ed Rooney said:

Agree completely that this is the type we need, no idea if this guy has that in his locker or not, it’s not something you tube will tell us I don’t think as it’s not exciting 

Well most of the skills videos I see of decent looking centre backs show a good proportion of headers won, interceptions made, tackles won, brave blocks, man marking, tracking runs, positional awareness and reading of the game as well as any of the fancy dan bits which are the icing on the cake.

[Toussaint]

3 minutes ago, northam soul said:

I shouldn’t think Armstrong is too happy about not starting, arguably one of our best players last season left on the bench for Djeneppo and Walcott.

If he doesn’t start tomorrow after last week who could blame him.

Well done Wreck it Ralph 

[SuperSAINT]

Kerr Smith is very highly rated, and has the usual-suspects who's-who of Leeds/Villa/Palace etc. chasing him.

We're pretty short of numbers at centre-back in the 18's at the moment.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, northam soul said:

I shouldn’t think Armstrong is too happy about not starting, arguably one of our best players last season left on the bench for Djeneppo and Walcott.

If he doesn’t start tomorrow after last week who could blame him.

So weird that he didn't start last week. He's one of our most positive players when he plays. 

[Dusic]

Usually a well informed Twitter account, says it will say the team once given approval to (probably from Small himself).

Has obviously been linked with Saints but also Villa and he is from the Midlands.

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Re Armstrong, didnt come on in first game, not in latest training pics (I don't think). Might be nothing in it, or perhaps he wants to play central midfield? Either way he signed a new contract last year so Saints would be in a strong position. Personally doubt there is anything in it.

 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Usually a well informed Twitter account, says it will say the team once given approval to (probably from Small himself).

Has obviously been linked with Saints but also Villa and he is from the Midlands.

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Re Armstrong, didnt come on in first game, not in latest training pics (I don't think). Might be nothing in it, or perhaps he wants to play central midfield? Either way he signed a new contract last year so Saints would be in a strong position. Personally doubt there is anything in it.

 

Seems to be a mix of saints and villa claiming to be the club 

[SuperSAINT]

8 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Usually a well informed Twitter account,

Not this time, he's 17  

Always slightly nervous when we get mentioned long before it's done.

Edited 21 August, 2021 by SuperSAINT

[Toussaint]

8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

So weird that he didn't start last week. He's one of our most positive players when he plays. 

Probably not automismated enough 

[Ed Rooney]

20 minutes ago, Teddeer said:

Well most of the skills videos I see of decent looking centre backs show a good proportion of headers won, interceptions made, tackles won, brave blocks, man marking, tracking runs, positional awareness and reading of the game as well as any of the fancy dan bits which are the icing on the cake.

What player had all those squeezed into a 5 min video 

[Teddeer]

4 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

What player had all those squeezed into a 5 min video 

Some of the videos are well over 5 minutes. How many seconds of a video does it take to highlight a collection of skills? They simply cut from one to the next in short segments

[Ed Rooney]

Just now, Teddeer said:

Some of the videos are well over 5 minutes. How many seconds of a video does it take to highlight a collection of skills? They simply cut from one to the next in short segments

What’s your point, are you saying you have seen enough in you tube videos of him to decide if he can tackle, mark, read the game, intercept etc … 

[Teddeer]

1 minute ago, Ed Rooney said:

What’s your point, are you saying you have seen enough in you tube videos of him to decide if he can tackle, mark, read the game, intercept etc … 

Wasn't making any particular point merely stating that I've seen all those skills present in videos of decent looking centre backs. Maybe this Brazillian has a whole bunch of his own videos showcasing his defensive abilities.

[Saint-Reece]

Just seen from Alan Nixon that apparently Sheffield United want to sign Stu Armstrong on loan and face competition from Burnley… WTF? Not sure how much I believe it if I am honest. 

[hypochondriac]

Surely this isn't true. If saints get rid of Armstrong then they can fuck right off. 

[revolution saint]

Losing S Armstrong would be a blow. Best ‘10’ we have and should be starting every game. Fair enough if someone offers stupid money but I can’t see that happening.

[The Curse of St Mary's]

7 minutes ago, Saint-Reece said:

Just seen from Alan Nixon that apparently Sheffield United want to sign Stu Armstrong on loan and face competition from Burnley… WTF? Not sure how much I believe it if I am honest. 

I think he meant Christie not Armstrong based on a reply to sheff urd fan page 

[Bewildered]

 

[Ed Rooney]

[hypochondriac]

Panic over. Stand down. 

[Saint Billy]

Jesus, I was on the verge of disowning the club. 

[Ed Rooney]

3 minutes ago, Saint Billy said:

Jesus, I was on the verge of disowning the club. 

Facts 

[Chez]

2 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

That part in the article - ''The move could be accelerated if Armstrong moves on from St Mary's'' - what do they know that we don't?

has there ever been a more agent-placed story than this? Ryan Christie is looking a major move. PLG place this story to attract interest, oh and while we are at it, PLG get their (also) client Stuart Armstrong a massive new contract.

[Turkish]

How bad is it you look at Brighton now and think they’re not only a better team but better equipped to stay up than us. 20 years ago we went down to the old ground they had on the day of the 9/11 attacks and it was us going to a routine away win at a small league one club.

[Yozzman]

20 minutes ago, Turkish said:

How bad is it you look at Brighton now and think they’re not only a better team but better equipped to stay up than us. 20 years ago we went down to the old ground they had on the day of the 9/11 attacks and it was us going to a routine away win at a small league one club.

No surprise when you consider how much Tony Bloom has put into Brighton though.

[Raging Bull]

2 hours ago, Ed Rooney said:

Looks like Lee Evans

 

[verlaine1979]

32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

How bad is it you look at Brighton now and think they’re not only a better team but better equipped to stay up than us. 20 years ago we went down to the old ground they had on the day of the 9/11 attacks and it was us going to a routine away win at a small league one club.

Watford woke up a bit in the final 20 minutes, but rarely threatened to actually score. Brighton had a *lot* more movement and interchange up front than I've seen from us in recent seasons.

[danjosaint]

Hope nobody is going to suggest Potter a better manager than  wreck it Ralph 

[niceandfriendly]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

How bad is it you look at Brighton now and think they’re not only a better team but better equipped to stay up than us. 20 years ago we went down to the old ground they had on the day of the 9/11 attacks and it was us going to a routine away win at a small league one club.

Good isn't it? Nice how small clubs can come up through the leagues and become a success. One of the things that makes the football pyramid so special.

[woodsaint1]

7 hours ago, Yozzman said:

No surprise when you consider how much Tony Bloom has put into Brighton though.

Their net spend is about minus 150 million the last three years before this window. Doesnt buy you success as the anoraks on here would tell you, but its a nice luxury to have an owner willing to put his hand in his pocket.

All the while we're treading PL waters with our sell before you buy approach. Depressing

[Ed Rooney]

8 hours ago, Raging Bull said:

Looks like Lee Evans

 

🤣🤣

[Killers Knee]

12 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Yep I think the real issue we have is game management which to be honest is down to the manager. Individually Ralph has improved players but as a collective unit we seem unable to change games abd we pretty much never change tactics to get a victory. We either get success playing the same way we always do or we lose. 

But does he have the same mentality as Biesla? that there shouldn’t be a plan B, you need to do plan A better.  It’s a major criticism of Biesla as well and I fear all disciples of him fall into the same trap.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, Killers Knee said:

But does he have the same mentality as Biesla? that there shouldn’t be a plan B, you need to do plan A better.  It’s a major criticism of Biesla as well and I fear all disciples of him fall into the same trap.

Unfortunately for us though, Biesla is a better manager than Ralph.

[Rebel]

With a week to go in the transfer window we are still short of cover for Romeu in the CDM role (Diallo is more of a normal CM and cover for JWP), a left footed AM to play on the right, a 2nd left back and 2 centrebacks (we need 5 really so we can play 3 at the back if needed and survive injuries/ suspensions through the season).

I can’t see us signing all of those - permanently or on loan - in a week. 

I’m not too convinced by the sound of Lyanco but maybe he will be OK as a 4th choice and I guess we are counting Simeu as the 5th CB.

If we can get Christie and a 2nd left back in as well this week (Doig or Small) I would feel a lot happier.

Overall I think we’ll end up being about as strong as we were last season - and our first 11 will be good enough to just about keep us up  - but if we have injury problems or Ralph’s fails to be tactically flexible or use subs properly we will be in trouble. 

I still think we’ll be relying on 3 teams being worse than us - but hopefully 3 from Norwich, Watford, Burnley, Palace and Newcastle will be.

 

[bangkoksaint]

3 minutes ago, Rebel said:

With a week to go in the transfer window we are still short of cover for Romeu in the CDM role (Diallo is more of a normal CM and cover for JWP), a left footed AM to play on the right, a 2nd left back and 2 centrebacks (we need 5 really so we can play 3 at the back if needed and survive injuries/ suspensions through the season).

I can’t see us signing all of those - permanently or on loan - in a week. 

I’m not too convinced by the sound of Lyanco but maybe he will be OK as a 4th choice and I guess we are counting Simeu as the 5th CB.

If we can get Christie and a 2nd left back in as well this week (Doig or Small) I would feel a lot happier.

Overall I think we’ll end up being about as strong as we were last season - and our first 11 will be good enough to just about keep us up  - but if we have injury problems or Ralph’s fails to be tactically flexible or use subs properly we will be in trouble. 

I still think we’ll be relying on 3 teams being worse than us - but hopefully 3 from Norwich, Watford, Burnley, Palace and Newcastle will be.

 

But we will have injuries and Ralph’s track record means that he’s not tactically flexible and doesn’t use his subs well. I’m not a doom mongerer but I think we’re in trouble.

[MarkSFC]

3 minutes ago, Rebel said:

With a week to go in the transfer window we are still short of cover for Romeu in the CDM role (Diallo is more of a normal CM and cover for JWP), a left footed AM to play on the right, a 2nd left back and 2 centrebacks (we need 5 really so we can play 3 at the back if needed and survive injuries/ suspensions through the season).

I can’t see us signing all of those - permanently or on loan - in a week. 

I’m not too convinced by the sound of Lyanco but maybe he will be OK as a 4th choice and I guess we are counting Simeu as the 5th CB.

If we can get Christie and a 2nd left back in as well this week (Doig or Small) I would feel a lot happier.

Overall I think we’ll end up being about as strong as we were last season - and our first 11 will be good enough to just about keep us up  - but if we have injury problems or Ralph’s fails to be tactically flexible or use subs properly we will be in trouble. 

I still think we’ll be relying on 3 teams being worse than us - but hopefully 3 from Norwich, Watford, Burnley, Palace and Newcastle will be.

 

I think this post pretty much sums it up for me too. 

I am slightly more optimistic in how the season might go because of the "potential" within the group. 

Perraud, Salisu, Livramento, Broja, Armstrong (A), Diallo, KWP, and even Adams, have room for development. Whether they do, and how fast they do is obviously what will determine our season in the main. 

I am very mystified by Ralph's apparent lack of self development (use of subs mainly) given his reputation for developing others. 

The major concern for me is CB. This Serbian-Brazilian is underwhelming but we should give him a chance if it actually happens. I would still prefer another as Stephens is a liability in waiting all the time and Bednarek needs to get back to his best quickly. I believe Salisu will be an excellent player for us but will need better next to him so that he is not taking the bulk of responsibility.

This last 9 days of the window are vital to our season. 

[ErwinK1961]

It’s been a decent window for finally ridding ourselves of deadwood. We’ve also probably get the best fees we possibly could for Ings and Vestergaard.

However, in my opinion we had three main areas that we needed strong signings in to improve the spine and help correct last seasons issues - GK, CB and DM. As it stands, we won’t be improving on any of those positions. Arguably, we are probably going to be worse off at CB - I’ve never been JV’s biggest fan and was happy for him to go, but genuinely thought we’d invest properly there, which it looks like we aren’t.

Really struggle to understand how the manager and the board cannot see that those were the most important positions to improve this summer. Over 60 goals a season conceded last 2 years - we concede less, we’ll win more games. Simple as that really.

 

[tajjuk]

IF the Christie rumour is true then it seems we are basically stretching the remaining cash across 3 players I reckon, presuming we are trying to get Christie for a low fee, like say £5 million to get ahead of other people trying to send him on a free in Jan, then a tribunal fee for the Everton left back and the £6 or so million for Lyanco 

[FarehamSaintJames]

Alan Nixon linking us with Ryan Christie of Celtic, although I don’t think this guy has ever got any rumour correct.

Should be prioritising a solid CB and a GK. Not teenage back ups or ‘future prospects’.

[Raging Bull]

5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Alan Nixon linking us with Ryan Christie of Celtic, although I don’t think this guy has ever got any rumour correct.

Should be prioritising a solid CB and a GK. Not teenage back ups or ‘future prospects’.

Nixon is 1 of the more reliable sources, to be fair. 

[Midfield_General]

51 minutes ago, Rebel said:

With a week to go in the transfer window we are still short of cover for Romeu in the CDM role (Diallo is more of a normal CM and cover for JWP), a left footed AM to play on the right, a 2nd left back and 2 centrebacks (we need 5 really so we can play 3 at the back if needed and survive injuries/ suspensions through the season).

I can’t see us signing all of those - permanently or on loan - in a week. 

I’m not too convinced by the sound of Lyanco but maybe he will be OK as a 4th choice and I guess we are counting Simeu as the 5th CB.

If we can get Christie and a 2nd left back in as well this week (Doig or Small) I would feel a lot happier.

Overall I think we’ll end up being about as strong as we were last season - and our first 11 will be good enough to just about keep us up  - but if we have injury problems or Ralph’s fails to be tactically flexible or use subs properly we will be in trouble. 

I still think we’ll be relying on 3 teams being worse than us - but hopefully 3 from Norwich, Watford, Burnley, Palace and Newcastle will be.

 

Newcastle have got much more quality than us, and Burnley are better managed than we are. Neither of them will go down because they never do. Brentford and Brighton both look like they’ve got more than enough to be comfortable. 

Looks to me like it’s 3 from 4 - Watford, Norwich, Palace, us. If any of those other three are able to defend and grind out draws in tough games in the way that we are incapable of, we are bang in trouble. 

[badgerx16]

Prepare to be underwhelmed. ( Not ITK, just decades of experience ).

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

1) Newcastle have got much more quality than us, and Burnley are better managed than we are.

2) Neither of them will go down because they never do.

1) Newcastle's squad really isn't great, let alone 'much more quality than us'. Burnley finished below us last season.

2) That makes no sense what so ever. 

Plus in any case both have had relatively recent relegations from the Premier League.

[Suhari]

I know RH said no more signings after Lycanthrope (apart from a LB for the B team), but I wonder if we have held back some £££ for last minute improvements?

Earlier in the window I recall he said something about later in the window they expect to have opportunities to make signings normally out of our league.

I'm being too optimistic aren't I? We spunked our last £££ on the JWP deal.

[OldNick]

I know there is little chance but I notice there is still talk of grimes of Swansea being looked at by clubs, I do hope we are one of them

[Billy the Kidd]

31 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Alan Nixon linking us with Ryan Christie of Celtic, although I don’t think this guy has ever got any rumour correct.

Should be prioritising a solid CB and a GK. Not teenage back ups or ‘future prospects’.

Christie wouldn’t be a future prospect i dont believe, is isn’t so young.

[Matthew Le God]

35 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Alan Nixon linking us with Ryan Christie of Celtic, although I don’t think this guy has ever got any rumour correct.

Should be prioritising a solid CB and a GK. Not teenage back ups or ‘future prospects’.

He is a 26 year old 20 cap international player with over 300 senior games played, so doesn't fall into either of those categories. 

Edited 22 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[sadoldgit]

23 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Newcastle have got much more quality than us, and Burnley are better managed than we are. Neither of them will go down because they never do. Brentford and Brighton both look like they’ve got more than enough to be comfortable. 

Looks to me like it’s 3 from 4 - Watford, Norwich, Palace, us. If any of those other three are able to defend and grind out draws in tough games in the way that we are incapable of, we are bang in trouble. 

Not sure how you can say that after 1 or 2 games but certainly Newcastle and Burnley are just as capable of getting relegated as we are.

[tajjuk]

He's basically Stuart Armstrong Mk2. probably similar age, experience and likely cost, similar position as well though I think he's a bit more of a playmaker 

[Turkish]

53 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Alan Nixon linking us with Ryan Christie of Celtic, although I don’t think this guy has ever got any rumour correct.

Should be prioritising a solid CB and a GK. Not teenage back ups or ‘future prospects’.

He usually pretty good. Also says there is interest in Stuart Armstrong. We better not sell him as well 

[egg]

36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

He is a 26 year old 20 cap international player with over 300 senior games played, so doesn't fall into either of those categories. 

The point being 

 

36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

He is a 26 year old 20 cap international player with over 300 senior games played, so doesn't fall into either of those categories. 

Yes but the point he's making is that we should be prioritising a solid CB and a decent GK. This lad is neither of those things.