LaptopSaint Posted 20 August, 2021 Share Posted 20 August, 2021 3 hours ago, Chez said: another 24 year old center back. Watford heavily linked this week - supposedly in negotiations. His 5 minute youtube video is pretty much all with the ball at his feet. Right footed, very comfortable. Dribbles out and pings long balls all day long. No idea if he can defend though. Lyanco Evangelista Silveira Neves Vojnović is the king of the scummers… Catchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 August, 2021 Share Posted 20 August, 2021 2 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Curious given lyanco hasn’t played any senior international football, how does he pass the work permit barrier? Plays in Serie A. Anyway, I hear he can also drive a lorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 https://www.footballfancast.com/southampton-transfer-rumours/ligue-1-expert-advises-duje-caleta-car-to-join-southampton-and-not-west-ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said: https://www.footballfancast.com/southampton-transfer-rumours/ligue-1-expert-advises-duje-caleta-car-to-join-southampton-and-not-west-ham I think that's more of an opinion piece on which club he feels he'd be better at, not that we'll get him. I just don't see this as being a go-er in any way shape of form. Would love to be proven wrong, but I just cannot see how we can attract those types. And we've got our CB anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far que Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Bargain basement again saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 30 minutes ago, Far que said: Bargain basement again saints Like Stuart Armstrong was at £7m? 🙄 🤔 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Like Stuart Armstrong was at £7m? 🙄 🤔 Matt-bot, you're starting to sound a bit like the now departed Positivity-bot Hojbjerg after a post-match conference - change the fkin record! One swallow doesn't make a summer... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Like Stuart Armstrong was at £7m? 🙄 🤔 Stuart Armstrong is a decent player, but I doubt fans of other teams are looking at him covetously. We paid a small fee and got a slightly better player than we paid for. He's been a relatively bright light in a very dull team, but that context is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 It’s usually the smaller fee players that have worked out the best for us in the past tbf Buy low and sell high is unfortunately how Saints survive. That’s the way it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Bunch of lemonade sandwiches on here write a player off before he has even put on a shirt..... Our fans embarrassing sometimes 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 21 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Bunch of lemonade sandwiches on here write a player off before he has even put on a shirt..... Our fans embarrassing sometimes With our recent history of signings and everything we have seen about him its understandable you melt. Your embarrassing- are you related to semmens? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, whiteleySaint30 said: With our recent history of signings and everything we have seen about him its understandable you melt. Your embarrassing- are you related to semmens? We used to do good signings, Pelle, Tadic etc. Then did some poor signings. Now we are back to doing mostly good signings. What is with the ‘melt’ thing btw - was it necessary? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 18 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said: With our recent history of signings and everything we have seen about him its understandable you melt. Your embarrassing- are you related to semmens? What’s wrong with our recent signings? They have been fine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 50 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Bunch of lemonade sandwiches on here write a player off before he has even put on a shirt..... Our fans embarrassing sometimes Who has done that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: What’s wrong with our recent signings? They have been fine. so much so, we will probably get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: so much so, we will probably get relegated. Probably is a bit strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Our signings have been better in recent times, the scouting department seems to be more switched on, but I'd have say there are a few more red flags about this guy than usual. I mean I think Perraud and Armstrong are going to turn out to be really good signings, but they came with a lot of positives, good records in their leagues, highly rated, their clubs pushing for decent fees, seemingly integral to their teams etc. This guy, is cheap, hasn't been a very regular starter, seems hated by their fans, questions over his attitude etc. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but there seems to be more doubt about this guy than some of the other signings. Will say though Lovren came from similar circumstances and he did well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 29 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Who has done that? On 20/08/2021 at 16:53, TWar said: Tackle % of 45% Pressure % of 30% 3.2 tackles+interceptions a game. Aerial duel % 59% This guy is bang average at best. Vast majority of his stats are the same or worse than Jack Stephens. On 20/08/2021 at 17:00, Nordic Saint said: A massive loss more like. He's one of those we buy and then have to find clubs to loan him out to until his contract expires. 23 hours ago, JRM said: Not the leadership and experience at the back we are desperate for. 23 hours ago, danjosaint said: No faith at all in the club or especially Ralph at the moment, sad times, on the plus side league1 and championship seasons were great 23 hours ago, TWar said: No because he's bad. If we had spent 22 million people would ask "why have we spent 22 million on this crap squad player?" As is people ask why have we signed a crap squad player (albeit for cheap) when we have a big hole in the squad and should have quite a lot of money to spend? 21 hours ago, Delmary said: Looks a waste of money. Hope this is not our main CB signing. If so, it’s going to be a long hard season. 20 hours ago, TWar said: That's because those were good signings and this isn't. You can say what you want, but you shouldn't be surprised when people can work out if a player is good or not. The consensus weren't wrong on arma or livra, they probably won't be wrong here. 19 hours ago, Dman said: He looks absolutely fucking awful 😂😂😂 I, maybe naively, thought that we’d spend a decent part of the Vestergaard money improving an already weak area of the squad. It looks like we’ve just made it even weaker. With what this fool Will cost us, we could have got a championship CB in to prepare for it next season. This muppet doesn’t even look good enough for that. Does that help? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, adriansfc said: Not really. On any player signed or here ages you'll find posts who rate them and posts who don't. There's nothing "the forum" thinks, other than MLG being tedious and unlikely to have had sex. Completely agree. Hypo asked for details on who had written whateverhisname is off. I just provided the details. Personally couldn't give a toss whether people have made their mind up or not - it's a free country. They haven't made an informed judgement based on watching him play for us but that's up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: Does that help? Certainly does.. it helps identify the clowns that post on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: Bunch of lemonade sandwiches on here write a player off before he has even put on a shirt..... Our fans embarrassing sometimes 2 hours ago, whiteleySaint30 said: With our recent history of signings and everything we have seen about him its understandable you melt. Your embarrassing- are you related to semmens? 2 hours ago, Billy the Kidd said: We used to do good signings, Pelle, Tadic etc. Then did some poor signings. Now we are back to doing mostly good signings. What is with the ‘melt’ thing btw - was it necessary? Top flirting...I just want to know wtf a lemonade sandwich is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, egg said: I just want to know wtf a lemonade sandwich is? A soggy mess Edited 21 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: A soggy mess Ah, of course. Cheers 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 I must be missing something but he doesn’t look slow and he can pass. Isn’t that what most on this forum want from a CB ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 That's great but no we need an out and out defensive beast and leader on the pitch, all well and good doing drag backs etc but that's not what we need atm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, danjosaint said: That's great but no we need an out and out defensive beast and leader on the pitch, all well and good doing drag backs etc but that's not what we need atm Agree completely that this is the type we need, no idea if this guy has that in his locker or not, it’s not something you tube will tell us I don’t think as it’s not exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Probably is a bit strong. I'm not sure it is. I was looking at the teams in the league trying to identify 3 obviously worse teams and I really couldn't. We'll see what pans out and hope I'm wrong. We will surely be fighting relegation if you follow the form book. I was really hoping we'd improve our defence and GK for this season and looking at it man for man, we haven't. I hope we can turn our brittle mentality round - when one goal goes in we lose all fight and before you know it, one becomes three etc. We could do with a Jimmy Case, Razor Ruddock or Terry Hurlock in the side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 As others have said, he looks worryingly like a Hoedt Mk II. Hopefully not of course, but if he does sign I wonder if they can include a being-an-arsehole get out clause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: I'm not sure it is. I was looking at the teams in the league trying to identify 3 obviously worse teams and I really couldn't. We'll see what pans out and hope I'm wrong. We will surely be fighting relegation if you follow the form book. I was really hoping we'd improve our defence and GK for this season and looking at it man for man, we haven't. I hope we can turn our brittle mentality round - when one goal goes in we lose all fight and before you know it, one becomes three etc. We could do with a Jimmy Case, Razor Ruddock or Terry Hurlock in the side! Norwich look shit but then they’ve also had a ridiculously hard start.. Watford have made about 40 signings which rarely works well. Struggling outside of that. Brighton gave improved think they’ll be comfortable Burnley despite the snobbery we have them are much better defensively than us have a couple of decent strikers and will be okay. Third relegation place probably between us, Brentford and palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 47 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: I must be missing something but he doesn’t look slow and he can pass. Isn’t that what most on this forum want from a CB ? Being able to defend, capable in the air, and not shrinking at the first sign of a physical CF probably rate pretty highly in the requirements of most. 29 minutes ago, danjosaint said: That's great but no we need an out and out defensive beast and leader on the pitch, all well and good doing drag backs etc but that's not what we need atm Agreed. Fancy footwork in your own penalty area scares the shit out of me when done by defenders as much by our GK's and we know how that has ended for several of them. From the youtube clips he does look to have played in a more advanced position at some stage so perhaps he may be moved further forward for us as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: As others have said, he looks worryingly like a Hoedt Mk II. Hopefully not of course, but if he does sign I wonder if they can include a being-an-arsehole get out clause? Given Torino might be eager to offload him I'd have thought a loan with an option might have been a more cautious approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: I'm not sure it is. I was looking at the teams in the league trying to identify 3 obviously worse teams and I really couldn't. We'll see what pans out and hope I'm wrong. We will surely be fighting relegation if you follow the form book. I was really hoping we'd improve our defence and GK for this season and looking at it man for man, we haven't. I hope we can turn our brittle mentality round - when one goal goes in we lose all fight and before you know it, one becomes three etc. We could do with a Jimmy Case, Razor Ruddock or Terry Hurlock in the side! I've already predicted relegation for us this year, I just wouldn't say at this stage you would call it probable. Newcastle will be down there, Norwich for definite and then you would only need one more probably someone like Watford, Palace or Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, hypochondriac said: I've already predicted relegation for us this year, I just wouldn't say at this stage you would call it probable. Newcastle will be down there, Norwich for definite and then you would only need one more probably someone like Watford, Palace or Brentford. There are worse teams than us, we can look good at times but we are so easy to play and score against even when we play well we lose and look very likely to concede. That’s the concern. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Turkish said: There are worse teams than us, we can look good at times but we are so easy to play and score against even when we play well we lose and look very likely to concede. That’s the concern. I also believe that the manager needs to make us harder to beat, and not go 'toe-to-toe' with the big boys. Getting hammered with praise is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: There are worse teams than us, we can look good at times but we are so easy to play and score against even when we play well we lose and look very likely to concede. That’s the concern. Perfect summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, Badger said: Being able to defend, capable in the air, and not shrinking at the first sign of a physical CF probably rate pretty highly in the requirements of most. Agreed. Fancy footwork in your own penalty area scares the shit out of me when done by defenders as much by our GK's and we know how that has ended for several of them. From the youtube clips he does look to have played in a more advanced position at some stage so perhaps he may be moved further forward for us as well. You’d think so wouldn’t you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: I also believe that the manager needs to make us harder to beat, and not go 'toe-to-toe' with the big boys. Getting hammered with praise is pointless. When we did beat city and Liverpool we got a goal and defended for our lives. He can do it, but needs to do it more often. Taking the game to the top clubs when every player in every position is inferior is suicidal. It’s embarrassing that some of our fans are excited about Guaridola saying for 20 Minutes we played well when we were lucky to only Lose 5-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7588040/southampton-celtic-news-ryan-christie-burnley/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629573091-1 Working on a move for Ryan Christie. Available for free in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Wimborne_saint said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7588040/southampton-celtic-news-ryan-christie-burnley/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629573091-1 Working on a move for Ryan Christie. Available for free in January Umm, do not like this bit Ironically the deal could be accelerated if former Celtic midfielder Stuart Armstrong moves on from St Mary’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: When we did beat city and Liverpool we got a goal and defended for our lives. He can do it, but needs to do it more often. Taking the game to the top clubs when every player in every position is inferior is suicidal. It’s embarrassing that some of our fans are excited about Guaridola saying for 20 Minutes we played well when we were lucky to only Lose 5-1 Yep I think the real issue we have is game management which to be honest is down to the manager. Individually Ralph has improved players but as a collective unit we seem unable to change games abd we pretty much never change tactics to get a victory. We either get success playing the same way we always do or we lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7588040/southampton-celtic-news-ryan-christie-burnley/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629573091-1 Working on a move for Ryan Christie. Available for free in January That part in the article - ''The move could be accelerated if Armstrong moves on from St Mary's'' - what do they know that we don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: Umm, do not like this bit Ironically the deal could be accelerated if former Celtic midfielder Stuart Armstrong moves on from St Mary’s. Very odd. This is the first time I've seen that mentioned as a possibility anywhere?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, S-Clarke said: That part in the article - ''The move could be accelerated if Armstrong moves on from St Mary's'' - what do they know that we don't? I hope that bit isn’t true. We are a much better team when Armstrong plays 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: That part in the article - ''The move could be accelerated if Armstrong moves on from St Mary's'' - what do they know that we don't? Now that would be a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Wimborne_saint said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/7588040/southampton-celtic-news-ryan-christie-burnley/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1629573091-1 Working on a move for Ryan Christie. Available for free in January He's been consistent on us wanting him for a while. I don't like the Armstrong bit though! Linked with Kerr Smith in the article too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Turkish said: I hope that bit isn’t true. We are a much better team when Armstrong plays Imagine losing him but keeping Redmond and Moussa. I'd lose the will. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Imagine losing him but keeping Redmond and Moussa. I'd lose the will. Very much this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Imagine losing him but keeping Redmond and Moussa. I'd lose the will. Don't even say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 I shouldn’t think Armstrong is too happy about not starting, arguably one of our best players last season left on the bench for Djeneppo and Walcott. If he doesn’t start tomorrow after last week who could blame him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 13 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Imagine losing him but keeping Redmond and Moussa. I'd lose the will. Exactly, right?! I was reading that article and was thinking: "No way, we're well stocked with those...." & then saw the Armstrong mention (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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