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skintsaint

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3 hours ago, SNSUN said:

I've never seen him play but a quick stat check (age, height, qualities) makes it look like he'd be a decent signing. Left footed though so he'd be competing for Salisu's slot and I feel like we need someone to better Bednarek on the right. Also TransferMrkt have his value at £22 million so he'd probably be out of our price range.

Could probably low ball PSG...seeing as they dont need the cash but have to reduce their wages now they signed about 400k per weeks worth of players this summer, and also fits the role we are looking for.....get on the blower to your bro Ibrahima!

 

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8 hours ago, egg said:

Probably 10% "loyalty" fee to the outgoing players as they haven't asked to leave, a big chunk to the new guys as signing on fees, agents fees on all the deals. £39m fees isn't £39m in real money. 

Oh I agree we won’t have the full amount to spend, but the op was talking about money received, not leftover money not including sign-ons, loyalty bonuses and agency fees

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Chez

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7 hours ago, Turkish said:

Is that a option in your view or an option we’ve been linked with?

sorry, it's just an opinion.

Right money, right age, and when I've seen him live he has looked pretty solid (although it was matty cash that caught my eye at the time and who I suggested we sign last summer). We were linked with him in 2020, but more recently he has been heavily linked with Burnley. 

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5 hours ago, SNSUN said:

 

There are a number of good players in the Championship which IMO we should be interested in, and it's a market we seem to be using in recent years. Bournemouth and Fulham alone have a handful of decent players we should be looking at.

Who you thinking from Bournemouth, Brooks, Mepham or maybe Kelly (notice he has moved inside from left back to centre back)?

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

sorry, it's just an opinion.

Right money, right age, and when I've seen him live he has looked pretty solid (although it was matty cash that caught my eye at the time and who I suggested we sign last summer). We were linked with him in 2020, but more recently he has been heavily linked with Burnley. 

No worrries. Don’t really know much about him but seen a few premier league clubs linked this summer 

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8 hours ago, SambaMaverick said:

Stop fucking around and get Gary Cahill in, even if we have to eat his wages in the second year of a two year deal. We've managed to lose three of our best players and we've gotten no-one who is tried and tested in the Premier League.

I don't know why we act like we are too good for an old fashioned free transfer. Jeremy Pied and Cuco Martina were pretty shite, granted, but a signing like that at CB or LB would be much better than playing Rubik's cube every time we get an injury (Djenepo at LB - really?). 

Get Cahill on a free, back him up with someone like that Tosin fella from Fulham who can learn a lot under Cahill's wing. Jetro Willems also available on a free in the left back position. We need some experienced bodies through the door, for fuck's sake.

We need a goalie, badly, as well. Looks like Sam Johnstone's list of suitors is dwindling so a loan with an obligation if we stay up would be a great deal if it gets to the end of the window and he wants PL football - we could even chuck West Brom a bone in the form of one of our shite spare shot-stoppers.

We could do a lot worse. He’s still without a club so might be able to get him with on a year deal with an option to extended. Good experienced leader we need. 
 

The club is too obsessed with resale value tomorrow will be, sometimes you need a bit of experience for today to get through. Now is one of those times. 

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Maggie May

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5 hours ago, Far que said:

shouldnt be to hard to replace vesty with an upgrade at a cheaper rate

Not sure why so many are assuming this.

Vestergaard is a good defender. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t be going to Leicester, a team light years ahead of us right now.

 

 

 

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Dusic

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Would imagine we would be looking for a left sided centre back so we retain the balance of two left and two right. Not necessarily left footed but like Vestergaard comfortable on that side.

At the bottom of the Mail article it said we were looking at various options in Europe.

We had been linked with this guy previously, obvs not for first team. Probably got Simeu instead:

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-medical-booked-as-leeds-united-finalise-seventh-summer-signing-hjelde/#Echobox=1628759585

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sign Josh Doig at left back for £4-5M, Matt Grimes for Central Midfield at £4-5M and get Ethan Ampadu in for CD/CDM on loan with an option to buy.

its easy this transfer stuff isn't it

On a more serious note I was hoping we would sell or send out on loan at least 2 of Redmond, Djneppo and Elyounoussi so we could bring in someone better for the No.10 role and play Tella on the left.  But that would mean we need another striker/forward as well.

I was also expecting us to sign a left footed No. 10 to play on the right.

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7 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Amad Diallo supposedly available on loan from United. Touted as a bit of a wonderkid, would be able to add something in one of the wing positions but doubt we’d go for him.

Not sure we'll be doing any loan deals with United after the Williams fiasco.

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12 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Amad Diallo supposedly available on loan from United. Touted as a bit of a wonderkid, would be able to add something in one of the wing positions but doubt we’d go for him.

We have enough depth in that position without developing other clubs players for them.

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3 minutes ago, TWar said:

We have enough depth in that position without developing other clubs players for them.

Can’t say I get too upset with the idea of developing other clubs players, it’s the current season that matters more than any other. But yeah we’d be best cutting a couple of attackers before bringing in a new one.

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4 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Can’t say I get too upset with the idea of developing other clubs players, it’s the current season that matters more than any other. But yeah we’d be best cutting a couple of attackers before bringing in a new one.

Depends on the player really. Generally speaking if a young player was of a sufficient quality to really improve us straight off the bat then they'd have better offers than us whereas an older player of the same quality might not. If we are loaning someone and the current season is all that matters as we won't retain them then I'd rather sign a player in their prime as that might actually make us better.

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45 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Amad Diallo supposedly available on loan from United. Touted as a bit of a wonderkid, would be able to add something in one of the wing positions but doubt we’d go for him.

It's confusing enough with two Armstrongs, we can't have two Diallos too 🤯

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33 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Can’t say I get too upset with the idea of developing other clubs players, it’s the current season that matters more than any other. But yeah we’d be best cutting a couple of attackers before bringing in a new one.

It's a very strange mindset that by loaning a player to help us short term we are developing a player for another club, especially a top 4 club. 

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31 minutes ago, TWar said:

Depends on the player really. Generally speaking if a young player was of a sufficient quality to really improve us straight off the bat then they'd have better offers than us whereas an older player of the same quality might not. If we are loaning someone and the current season is all that matters as we won't retain them then I'd rather sign a player in their prime as that might actually make us better.

When was the last time we did that? Probably only Walker-Peters in the last couple of years has come in and immediately been an improvement.

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6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It's a very strange mindset that by loaning a player to help us short term we are developing a player for another club, especially a top 4 club. 

its strange when a top four club prices their player out of a loan that would improve not only him but ultimately them 

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8 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

its strange when a top four club prices their player out of a loan that would improve not only him but ultimately them 

Like who? If you're referring to Brandon Williams than a loan fee of c£1.7m that was muted isnt unreasonable.

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1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I'll be seriously disappointed if we just bring in one more 3rd/4th choice CB to end this window.

Think we've done some good work but will be wasting an opportunity there.

Of what is left I would have liked Delaney, and a CB (if reluctantly accepting a GK won't happen this window).

Suspect this might also be a loan, reading that Liverpool might allow Phillips to go as a 'pay later' type of deal (as was Ings of course).

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Probably not a deal we would prioritise due to other gaps in the squad but according to the Guardian Will Hughes is stuck in the Watford U23's after refusing to sign a new contract. I recall him as one of their better players when they were in the prem last time around and at 26 he's probably got his best years ahead of him. I expect they'll have to listen to reasonable offers - unclear what his wages would be like.

He's less of the CDM we arguably need but at the right price could be a good option in our midfield. He has a good eye for a pass and can carry the ball reasonably well. He was on the radar of bigger clubs for a while and I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody in the chasing pack (Everton, West Ham etc) go in for him now or in January.

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16 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

1 position to go (FFS).

 

With all the centre mids that have left in last year or so (Hojbjerg, Reed, Lemina, Slattery, Jankewitz), I find it surprising if Ralph wouldn't want another player in that area, even if just for backup.

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9 minutes ago, tunit said:

I dont know why we aren't going all out for Thomas Delaney. He has bags of experience which is what we're lacking right now. Pretty sure he played DM and CB last season for Dortmund. Seems a no brainer for me

i am with you, but for better or worse, the club are going to target players they think they can sell for more money 3 to 4 years from now. Delaney is not that.

on a pure football level, i think he is exactly what we need NOW and could shore up our defensive midfield.

and then we still need :

a £8m LCB, minimally,  but think we should be more ambitious and get a £20m RCB

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18 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

To be honest i'd sign a cover for Oriel who can drop in as a CB as needed.

its a pity Teun Koopmeiners looks like he is going to Atalanta for 17mil euro's he'd fit the bill as he has played in both positions a lot.

Is that actually done? I heard rumours weeks ago about Atalanta, but nothing has materialized yet.

He would be the best option we could ever hope for in our current climate. Not seen any links to him though. 

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The links to Nat Phillips concern me. We have the chance to sign a replacement for Vestergaard who doesn't compromise our tactics by being slower than coastal erosion, and yet we're lining up another slow as shit CB? Only, one who is worse on the ball.

Wouldn't improve us one iota.

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1 minute ago, qwertyell said:

The links to Nat Phillips concern me. We have the chance to sign a replacement for Vestergaard who doesn't compromise our tactics by being slower than coastal erosion, and yet we're lining up another slow as shit CB? Only, one who is worse on the ball.

Wouldn't improve us one iota.

I'm really unimpressed by Ralph's comments that we are only after a single further transfer to replace Vestergaard. Apparently we will recruit somebody who is young and with future sale value.  It is also clear that our transfer incomings fees are substantially higher than our current outgoings even with the other transfer costs included, so there is an opportunity to get a much better quality of player. 

The best deals are done at the end of the transfer window when clubs are desperate to shift players and will take a lower offer. I am keeping my fingers crossed that our strategy is to wait until the end and try and get (at least) two decent, experienced players who will take us forward. This assumes that Ralph is being economical with the truth with his press briefings which would be fair enough at this time of the year. 

Lastly, as others have pointed out, we have so far bought two starters to our team who are both rather short (Perraud, Armstrong) and in parallel got rid of some of taller players Vest/Bertie/Ings - we weren't the tallest or most physical (e.g. KWP, Tella, Diallo) to begin with, but it really could cause us issues in a long season.   We really do need some height and strength to be added in defence and midfield. 

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9 minutes ago, WALK DMC said:

I'm really unimpressed by Ralph's comments that we are only after a single further transfer to replace Vestergaard.

I don't really believe him. We'll still have a domestic loan slot free. I imagine we view replacing Vestergaard as a "definite" transfer we'll make; then we'll keep a keen eye on the market right up until the end of the window and see what potential deals shake out as teams finalise their squads.

For me, a CB and LB are required, and probably a CM (although S. Armstrong is potentially that's 4th number 6 option). Doesn't sound like we've got any interest in keepers this window.

Mentioned it before - and I think others have too - but England u21 LB Lee Buchanan should be available from cash-strapped Derby for a drop in the ocean, still leaving plenty in the kitty for that CB replacement.

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