Turkish Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Exactly it’s a bit worrying some of the players we are being linked with.. we don’t need oxo especially on loan,, the young Chelsea striker if it’s only a loan is also a bit bizzare.. we need to replace ings ffs and not with a frikkin loan.. I’d still like us to go for Darwin Nunez Why? If it's our only signing then yes, but it's being reported that we will sign him and another one. I'd rather have a talented young striker on loan coming off the bench than Shane Long. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) It is amazing how many players being paid tens of thousands of pounds a week in Europe's top divisions are rated as "awful". Edited 9 August, 2021 by badgerx16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, pimpin4rizeal said: Exactly it’s a bit worrying some of the players we are being linked with.. we don’t need oxo especially on loan,, the young Chelsea striker if it’s only a loan is also a bit bizzare.. we need to replace ings ffs and not with a frikkin loan.. I’d still like us to go for Darwin Nunez We’re crying out for some creativity in the 10. Redmond, Djenepo and arguably Theo, are nowhere near good enough to keep us up again. Given we’ve lost Ings goals, we need to replace them and we won’t from a striker, so we’ll need others to chip in. It’s been pretty well documented that we’re in for 2 strikers and funds are limited. The young lad from Chelsea is likely to be a replacement for Long / Obafemi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) Edited 9 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Armstrong bid accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, Suhari said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? Of course not!! If we signed Messi and Ronaldo there'd still be moaners🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Suhari said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED A DEFENDER WHO CAN PLAY CENTRAL MIDFIELD YET! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Interesting……….He may be costing a bit but I think he’ll be worth it. Southampton may think that issuing an ultimatum with their latest offer will be enough to persuade Rovers into selling Armstrong. However, if it doesn’t meet Venky’s valuation, they will have completely wasted their time. Flexing their muscles might work with other clubs, but Rovers’ owners don’t play by the same rules as everyone else. As they highlighted by their belligerence over Jordan Rhodes’ exit from the club, if they set a valuation it has to be met. It is also worth factoring in that Venky’s once thought that Ronaldinho and David Beckham were viable targets for Rovers – reality is not really their thing. As Mowbray says – Armstrong’s suitors need to pay the price. If they are not prepared to do that, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Suhari said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? Would prefer somebody from abroad. Armstrong is untried in the Prem.....or something... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Suhari said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? In fairness, both are pretty unproven at this level and, if we’re being honest, unlikely to replace ings goals. I am a bit more relaxed now that I’ve heard were potentially in for the Ox (hopefully this signals that we want to improve in the 10, which is very much needed). Given we’ve continued to chase, it would suggest that he doesn’t prefer palace (or at least we think we have a chance), as reported. Edited 9 August, 2021 by SKD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, SKD said: In fairness, both are pretty unproven at this level and, if we’re being honest, not going to replace ings goals. I am a bit more relaxed now that I’ve heard were potentially in for the Ox (hopefully this signals that we want to improve in the 10, which is very much needed). Given we’ve continued to chase, it would suggest that he doesn’t prefer palace (or at least we think we have a chance), as reported. You'd think we would have been encouraged to make another bid, knowing that there is a good chance he will want to come to us. If we can get this done and the Chelsea kid then i think that's a reasonable amount of business to replace Ings. 10 goals a piece from Armstrong and Adams should be doable and if the kid can chip in with 4-5 that's a decent return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: Why? If it's our only signing then yes, but it's being reported that we will sign him and another one. I'd rather have a talented young striker on loan coming off the bench than Shane Long. Well if he’s not ours and there is no option to buy it’s a bit pointless having him over tella and obafemi, might as well develop them instead? id just like us to get the ings replacement sorted first tbh., we got money from the sale.. season starts Saturday why dither about and end up starting Redmond up front or something as bad vs Everton when we could get our replacement sorted now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) The bid for Armstrong is Money + Obafemi according to Nixon Edited 9 August, 2021 by Restark19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Of course not!! If we signed Messi and Ronaldo there'd still be moaners🤣🤣 Too old and don't fit the high pressing system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Suhari said: So potentially Armstrong and a highly rated Chelsea youngster as our new striking options. Do we expect there to be less negativity on here now? Good news if it's the pair. Well done Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: You'd think we would have been encouraged to make another bid, knowing that there is a good chance he will want to come to us. If we can get this done and the Chelsea kid then i think that's a reasonable amount of business to replace Ings. 10 goals a piece from Armstrong and Adams should be doable and if the kid can chip in with 4-5 that's a decent return. agreed. have to keep JWP now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Are we missing some height up front - and at the back? Am I alone in bemoaning the lack of a Pelle style character? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: You'd think we would have been encouraged to make another bid, knowing that there is a good chance he will want to come to us. Yep. Which in a way, is the concerning thing about the JWP situation. Villa wouldn’t be wasting their time if they didn’t believe they had a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Restark19 said: Money + Obafemi according to Nixon £15m inc addons according to others. I'd like to see Obafemi go out on loan for the season and get some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: £15m inc addons according to others. I'd like to see Obafemi go out on loan for the season and get some games. It'll be interesting to see who's right. Tbh I'd be disappointed to see him leave as I think he has something about him but needs game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Well if he’s not ours and there is no option to buy it’s a bit pointless having him over tella and obafemi, might as well develop them instead? id just like us to get the ings replacement sorted first tbh., we got money from the sale.. season starts Saturday why dither about and end up starting Redmond up front or something as bad vs Everton when we could get our replacement sorted now? Sounds like the sorting done now doesn’t it! I wouldn’t rule out Redmond and Adams starting Saturday though Edited 9 August, 2021 by Give it to Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, SKD said: Yep. Which in a way, is the concerning thing about the JWP situation. Villa wouldn’t be wasting their time if they didn’t believe they had a chance. Agents Villa did this earlier in the Window with Smith-Rowe at Arsenal - last time I looked ESR was still an arsenal player and they made 3 bids I believe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Sounds like the sorting done now doesn’t it! I wouldn’t rule out Redmond and Adams starting Saturday though We will progress when Redmond and McCarthy are nowhere near our first team 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, le_tiss said: Agents Villa did this earlier in the Window with Smith-Rowe at Arsenal - last time I looked ESR was still an arsenal player and they made 3 bids I believe ICM Stellar handle Grealish, JWP and Adam Armstrong. They'll know the situation quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, DT said: We will progress when Redmond and McCarthy are nowhere near our first team After the last 2 friendlies no argument from me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, Give it to Ron said: After the last 2 friendlies no argument from me there Did Redmond play on saturday??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints4Prem Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 No but each showed there ability? in the respective games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: £15m inc addons according to others. I'd like to see Obafemi go out on loan for the season and get some games. Tend to agree on this. If, the worst does happen and we go down, I think he’d be a real asset for us in the championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, OldNick said: Did Redmond play on saturday??? Didn’t say he did…..Wednesday was bad enough! I saw him Vest, Ely, JWP go through the door in Northam at 2:55. Redmond went to go in stopped turned back went left then right doubled back the door hit him and he moaned at JWP 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Just now, Give it to Ron said: Didn’t say he did…..Wednesday was bad enough! I saw him Vest, Ely, JWP go through the door in Northam at 2:55. Redmond went to go in stopped turned back went left then right doubled back the door hit him and he moaned at JWP I respect your opinion, but you are wrong with Redmond, Im surprised that you dont see what he does. If he did everything he would not be with us, but he does a lot of stuff that people do not see. Anyway he is classic Marmite DT has no idea so I dont take his judgement lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints4Prem Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Give it to Ron said: Didn’t say he did…..Wednesday was bad enough! I saw him Vest, Ely, JWP go through the door in Northam at 2:55. Redmond went to go in stopped turned back went left then right doubled back the door hit him and he moaned at JWP Thanks spilled my coffee all over the keyboard 😄😂🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 15 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: £15m inc addons according to others. I'd like to see Obafemi go out on loan for the season and get some games. Isn't Obafemi's contract up at the end of the season though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Isn't Obafemi's contract up at the end of the season though? I'd be offering him a new 3 year contract and send him on loan. Depending on his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 34 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: Of course not!! If we signed Messi and Ronaldo there'd still be moaners🤣🤣 Both too old and won't suit Ralphs pressing game. No thanks 🙄 Fucking yeah righto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diabolus Ex Machina Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, SKD said: Tend to agree on this. If, the worst does happen and we go down, I think he’d be a real asset for us in the championship. I know not everyone is a stats guy and they don't tell the whole story but statistically in the Prem, Obafemi is practically identical to Nketiah and about the same age. Worth considering when they'd want £15-20m for him and a lot of people on here would be willing to let Obafemi go for a pittance. I'd certainly keep him but agree that game time is what he really needs to kick on whether that be with us or on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 46 minutes ago, Turkish said: but in reality Oxlade-Chamberlain would walk into the team ahead of anyone else in that position. Yep and more goals from midfield too if we can get half a season out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 38 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said: Unsurprising..think Blackburn been trying to get a bidding war going with just one team really interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 34 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said: Interesting……….He may be costing a bit but I think he’ll be worth it. Southampton may think that issuing an ultimatum with their latest offer will be enough to persuade Rovers into selling Armstrong. However, if it doesn’t meet Venky’s valuation, they will have completely wasted their time. Flexing their muscles might work with other clubs, but Rovers’ owners don’t play by the same rules as everyone else. As they highlighted by their belligerence over Jordan Rhodes’ exit from the club, if they set a valuation it has to be met. It is also worth factoring in that Venky’s once thought that Ronaldinho and David Beckham were viable targets for Rovers – reality is not really their thing. As Mowbray says – Armstrong’s suitors need to pay the price. If they are not prepared to do that, move along. We paid 15m allegedly including add ons. No where near the 25m they wanted. We've done well with that 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 21 minutes ago, OldNick said: I respect your opinion, but you are wrong with Redmond, Im surprised that you dont see what he does. If he did everything he would not be with us, but he does a lot of stuff that people do not see. Anyway he is classic Marmite DT has no idea so I dont take his judgement lol. Hello, Mrs Redmond! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 27 minutes ago, SKD said: Tend to agree on this. If, the worst does happen and we go down, I think he’d be a real asset for us in the championship. I thought he only had a year left on his contract, and that was why there was so much talk of him moving on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, DT said: Hello, Mrs Redmond! 😉 lol ,are you sure im not Mr Redmond? Pep and me are his greatest admirers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 Armstrong is a very successful name in terms of Saints players. David was awesome. Stuart is great. Hope Adam is the same. Got good feeling about this signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 minute ago, DT said: Armstrong is a very successful name in terms of Saints players. David was awesome. Stuart is great. Hope Adam is the same. Got good feeling about this signing. Well we can agree on something DT lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, OldNick said: Well we can agree on something DT lol At least parents know which name to get on kids shirts they get 2 for 1 . Going back to Redmond he started well against Levante he seemed to me like being an elder statesman taking responsibility but then once he missed that chance his head went and back to type. He took some great corners though. If he finds some form and confidence then he can play a role but TBH he has been so awful some games think he needs fresh start away from here. Doesnt it say things when you never hear approaches for him from other clubs around us or above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 55 minutes ago, Restark19 said: It'll be interesting to see who's right. Tbh I'd be disappointed to see him leave as I think he has something about him but needs game time. Maybe £15m plus Obafemi on loan for the season? That would suit everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said: Maybe £15m plus Obafemi on loan for the season? That would suit everyone This would be favourable, wouldn't want to lose Obafemi completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Too old and don't fit the high pressing system. 37 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Both too old and won't suit Ralphs pressing game. No thanks 🙄 Fucking yeah righto Stop stealing my lines ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 9 August, 2021 Share Posted 9 August, 2021 7 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: At least parents know which name to get on kids shirts they get 2 for 1 . Going back to Redmond he started well against Levante he seemed to me like being an elder statesman taking responsibility but then once he missed that chance his head went and back to type. He took some great corners though. If he finds some form and confidence then he can play a role but TBH he has been so awful some games think he needs fresh start away from here. Doesnt it say things when you never hear approaches for him from other clubs around us or above? Just waiting for MLG to point out that they will actually have two different shirt numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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