SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 hours ago, The Curse of St Mary's said: Dan Sheldon says we are pushing to make it permanent. Can't see it myself as he's only just signed new contract. Positive signing either way imo Exactly this. Makes no sense for them to sell him.
Chewy Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 13 minutes ago, Shroppie said: In a backs-to-the-wall defensive set-up, Bednarek excels. No one better at last-ditch blocks and tackles. It's when we're attacking and need to defend against a fast break that he's vulnerable. Agreed. He’s great at defending in the box, pretty exposed playing in a high-line, high-pressing team. Unfortunately for us that’s how we’re set up to play. I like him, he’s just not right for these tactics 1
Stu Man Do Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: No we wouldn't. You only really need 4 senior centre backs. We'd have Salisu and Bednarek as first choice, Stephens as back up and then need another player. Plus have the likes of Simeu in the under 23 team. Do you honestly think that’s a premier league standard CB partnership that won’t leave us scrabbling around at the bottom end? This squad and preparation aren’t looking great and probably are down on quality on an already low quality squad from last year.
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 13 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: A fit Ox benches Redmond or Djenepo all day long. In fact he benches Long also.🤣 Would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Head and shoulders above anything we’ve got 1
SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 new forwards must mean 1 or 2 are due to leave?
Give it to Ron Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 Ox good bit of news to throw into Little Mix of transfer rumours 1
Appy Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Head and shoulders above anything we’ve got Yep, 100%. Whenever we’re linked with squad players from big clubs some of our fans turn their noses up, but the majority walk straight into our team.
gammon cheeks Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 Just now, SuperSAINT said: 2 new forwards must mean 1 or 2 are due to leave? Hopefully Long and Obefemi
SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Hopefully Long and Obefemi Exactly my thoughts. LOVE the Ox rumour, BTW. Absolute class, but those injuries................................... 6 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Ox good bit of news to throw into Little Mix of transfer rumours WHHHEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Edited 8 August, 2021 by SuperSAINT
Baird of the land Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Yep, 100%. Whenever we’re linked with squad players from big clubs some of our fans turn their noses up, but the majority walk straight into our team. The issue is if he does come in, you’d assume somebody would have to go out first.
egg Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: The issue is if he does come in, you’d assume somebody would have to go out first. Or Theo gets pushed up top.
Shroppie Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, Turkish said: Would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Head and shoulders above anything we’ve got He's played 90 minutes only once since 2018. Too big a risk.
whelk Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Shroppie said: He's played 90 minutes only once since 2018. Too big a risk. Just like Ings was? 1
miserableoldgit Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Shroppie said: He's played 90 minutes only once since 2018. Too big a risk. https://www.premierleague.com/players/4252/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain/overview
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Shroppie said: He's played 90 minutes only once since 2018. Too big a risk. Really?! Didn’t know that.
Saint_dane Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 Am I the only one who would be pushing for Stephens/Salisu partnership this season?? Thought they looked great on Wed - This may be why I am not a football manager... 1
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 His injury record at both Arsenal (11 injuries in 6 years missing 154 games) and Liverpool makes for pretty uncomfortable reading. Obviously he had the big ACL injury but there doesn’t seem a part of his body that he hasn’t pulled / tweaked / strained / torn / knocked or whatever. If that’s still the case then he won’t be much use to us in the treatment room.
Dellman Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 Ox would strengthen the squad. He doesn't have to play every match or even 90 minutes if we are deepening the squad that is exactly what's needed. I reckon the bad days of recruitment are over and the present Board are making realistic moves this summer.
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Saint_dane said: Am I the only one who would be pushing for Stephens/Salisu partnership this season?? Thought they looked great on Wed - This may be why I am not a football manager... stephens does this. He looks great for a few games then he reverts to his usual self, lapses in concentration have blighted his career. If he could consistently be the player he is when he comes back into the side we’d have a good player on our hands, sadly time after time he isnt. 8
Baird of the land Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, Saint_dane said: Am I the only one who would be pushing for Stephens/Salisu partnership this season?? Thought they looked great on Wed - This may be why I am not a football manager... I definitely there’s potential there. Stephens/salisu offers a bit more balance in terms of his ability to bring the ball out vs bednarek/salisu 2
Dusic Posted 8 August, 2021 Author Posted 8 August, 2021 Seems like Broja will happen. Could be a nice bench option as a but different to our other forwards but unless there is an option/obligation to buy it seems a bit odd in that it cannot be too difficult to find a young forward who we feel we can develop but who is actually our own player and one we can increase the value of. On the flipside, if there is one PL club to become a favoured loan club for it is probably Chelsea. With Armstrong, Edouard, Sorloth and Abraham unlikely it will be interesting to see which other names pop up. At this stage it would suggest that we will sign someone as yet unnamed...
austsaint Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 hours ago, saint lard said: Not sure I could cope with the nostalgia if we got the Ox linking up with Theo. I’d be moist whatever happens. Too much like the stunner who left you in your early twenties only to return following her divorce with three kids in tow at forty-five. 3 1
DT Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 1 minute ago, woodsaint1 said: Broja might be jonno quick Bloody hell. Sign him up
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, austsaint said: Too much like the stunner who left you in your early twenties only to return following her divorce with three kids in tow at forty-five. Jenny coming back home to Forrest Gump.
CanadaSaint Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 26 minutes ago, Turkish said: stephens does this. He looks great for a few games then he reverts to his usual self, lapses in concentration have blighted his career. If he could consistently be the player he is when he comes back into the side we’d have a good player on our hands, sadly time after time he isnt. I’d be interested to hear from those closer to the action if, as I suspect, communication at the back is an issue. I don’t see a defensive leader back there who could keep awareness and concentration levels up, and that’s a recipe for problems. It’s magnified if the keeper isn’t a strong communicator - and I’m certain that McCarthy isn't. Stephens needs someone like that but I haven’t seen it coming from - and don’t really see it coming from - KWP, Bednarek or Salisu. 1
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said: I’d be interested to hear from those closer to the action if, as I suspect, communication at the back is an issue. I don’t see a defensive leader back there who could keep awareness and concentration levels up, and that’s a recipe for problems. It’s magnified if the keeper isn’t a strong communicator - and I’m certain that McCarthy isn't. Stephens needs someone like that but I haven’t seen it coming from - and don’t really see it coming from - KWP, Bednarek or Salisu. I think you are right, we’ve lacked a leader at the back for a long time. Stephens with Fonte or similar could have been a good pair, I don’t see any of our current defenders or keepers as the leader/organiser every defence needs. 1
whiteleySaint30 Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 51 minutes ago, Graffito said: 3 weeks to go. No need to shit the bed. Season starts in 6 days
HarvSFC Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 So, if we do sign this Broja, do Chelsea officially become our feeder team?
Turkish Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: So, if we do sign this Broja, do Chelsea officially become our feeder team? No we become their B team 4
tajjuk Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 6' 3" as well, hopefully there is an option to buy in there though.
badgerx16 Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 20 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said: Season starts in 6 days Exactly - 3 matches before the end of the window.
Saint Garrett Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 Borja, Chamberlain and Armstrong in, Obafemi and Long out…. Poss Vestergaard out and an older more experienced head in….Phil Jones? Wouldnt be the worst window in the world… 1
davefizzy14 Posted 8 August, 2021 Posted 8 August, 2021 (edited) Borja looks like a unit and had a great loan spell at Vitesse Arneham with 10 goals last season. Could be good business that for us hopefully with an option to buy. Tom Leach said that we are currently working on two deals at the moment, so Borja is one, I wonder who the other one is. I really hope its Edouard. Chamberlain on loan too would be great. Edited 8 August, 2021 by davefizzy14
Saints4Prem Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 Because of his injury record lets hope the Ox rumours are to push Blackburn into accepting the Armstrong bid
JRM Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 4 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Borja, Chamberlain and Armstrong in, Obafemi and Long out…. Poss Vestergaard out and an older more experienced head in….Phil Jones? Wouldnt be the worst window in the world… Chamberlain and Jones would miss so many games through injury I doubt we'd really count them as squad members 1
skintsaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 Origi could supposedly be going to West Ham for around 15m... https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-west-ham-open-preliminary-talks-to-sign-origi-after-liverpool-asking-price-slashed/
beatlesaint Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: Origi could supposedly be going to West Ham for around 15m... https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-west-ham-open-preliminary-talks-to-sign-origi-after-liverpool-asking-price-slashed/ Thank goodness 1
stknowle Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Greenridge said: His injury record at both Arsenal (11 injuries in 6 years missing 154 games) and Liverpool makes for pretty uncomfortable reading. Obviously he had the big ACL injury but there doesn’t seem a part of his body that he hasn’t pulled / tweaked / strained / torn / knocked or whatever. If that’s still the case then he won’t be much use to us in the treatment room. Him in midfield; Phil Jones in defence. Add in Carroll to solve our striker worries and we're sorted. Can't see a downside. Edited 9 August, 2021 by stknowle 3
Saint Fan CaM Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 7 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Thank goodness Don’t know why you say that…Origi is a better option than Long or Obefemi IMO. 2
whiteleySaint30 Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 5 hours ago, Saints4Prem said: Because of his injury record lets hope the Ox rumours are to push Blackburn into accepting the Armstrong bid Why would that be the case, they play in different positions...
egg Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 19 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Don’t know why you say that…Origi is a better option than Long or Obefemi IMO. Because he's awful, and he'd be a terrible Ings replacement. 3
Saint Matty 76 Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 Unfortunately 90% of the population of Strikers are better than Long & Obafemi, this doesn’t mean we should be looking to buy them. Nixon seems to think JWP to Villa is still in motion.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 We don't need players in Oxlade-Chamberlains position and he would be an expensive loan. Better than what we have got but we need a striker and a defensive midfielder. Bit concerning that we're linked as it makes me wonder if we're about to sell JWP (which then makes AOC affordable)?
Saint_lambden Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: We don't need players in Oxlade-Chamberlains position and he would be an expensive loan. Better than what we have got but we need a striker and a defensive midfielder. Bit concerning that we're linked as it makes me wonder if we're about to sell JWP (which then makes AOC affordable)? The manager has been on about signing a 'number 6' for weeks so it's not related to any potential JWP sale (which won't happen). An extra body in there would ensure that Armstrong is not having to move out of his best position to cover if/when we get an injuries to JWP/Romeu/Diallo.
ErwinK1961 Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: We don't need players in Oxlade-Chamberlains position and he would be an expensive loan. Better than what we have got but we need a striker and a defensive midfielder. Bit concerning that we're linked as it makes me wonder if we're about to sell JWP (which then makes AOC affordable)? It's TalkSport FFS.
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 16 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: We don't need players in Oxlade-Chamberlains position and he would be an expensive loan. Better than what we have got but we need a striker and a defensive midfielder. Bit concerning that we're linked as it makes me wonder if we're about to sell JWP (which then makes AOC affordable)? We dont need one in that we've got a lot of bodies but in reality Oxlade-Chamberlain would walk into the team ahead of anyone else in that position. If we can get him and have the money to do it then why not? I'd rather a season of him than Redmond passing in sideways and moaning at everyone else.
pimpin4rizeal Posted 9 August, 2021 Posted 9 August, 2021 15 minutes ago, Lallana's Left Peg said: We don't need players in Oxlade-Chamberlains position and he would be an expensive loan. Better than what we have got but we need a striker and a defensive midfielder. Bit concerning that we're linked as it makes me wonder if we're about to sell JWP (which then makes AOC affordable)? Exactly it’s a bit worrying some of the players we are being linked with.. we don’t need oxo especially on loan,, the young Chelsea striker if it’s only a loan is also a bit bizzare.. we need to replace ings ffs and not with a frikkin loan.. I’d still like us to go for Darwin Nunez
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