Summer Transfer Window 2021

[Uncle Albert]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Looks like a "rumour auto generation" account.  Will be Messi off to Torquay next.

Alex McCarthy to Real Madrid

Edited 24 August, 2021 by Uncle Albert

[Master Bates]

That Sorloth guy going to Real Sociedad for £13.5m apparently.

Thought I read on here we had a £14m bid accepted. Did talks with the player fall through?

[ErwinK1961]

4 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

That Sorloth guy going to Real Sociedad for £13.5m apparently.

Thought I read on here we had a £14m bid accepted. Did talks with the player fall through?

Don’t think we ever bid for him. Was just some minor interest.

Wonder if Isak is off then? Great player, be interesting to see where we ends up.

[Turkish]

Interesting that the young players we’ve signed or have been linked with are defenders. Wonder if that just coincidence or we think we’ve got a few good attacking players coming though already 

[Toussaint]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

It is a wind up account and a poor one at that.

 

Daft Tweets made today from the same account...

 

It’s that naughty little imp Peraud making stuff up.

[Toussaint]

24 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Interesting that the young players we’ve signed or have been linked with are defenders. Wonder if that just coincidence or we think we’ve got a few good attacking players coming though already 

New playbook, the low press, gegen defenden, ten behind the ball, no more 9-0’s

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Jan koller to saints. 

Well, that would improve the goalkeeping, but would we still need some extra depth up front? 🙂

 

1 hour ago, Uncle Albert said:

Alex McCarthy to Real Madrid

I picked up FM21 on the eve of the Euros. I'd read that there wouldn't be much transfer activity due to Covid. Then Real Madrid came in for McCarthy. I just stared at the screen, wondering just how much influence MLG has managed to get there over the years. Then I bit their virtual arms off.

Edited 24 August, 2021 by Holmes_and_Watson
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[Master Bates]

Sorloth not over!?!

Leipzig have given Sorloth permission to skip training today as the reported Southampton target closes in on a move to the Premier League.

[Master Bates]

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH

[FarehamSaintJames]

We will not be buying another striker. Some people are way to gullible. 🙄

 

[S-Clarke]

I'd be stunned if we spent that on him and ignored GK.

Well, stunned as well as fuming tbh.

[Master Bates]

4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

We will not be buying another striker. Some people are way to gullible. 🙄

 

Why not? Injuries etc, anything with us is possible, I don't see why not tbf. One goal in 2 games We've scored thus far.

Edited 24 August, 2021 by Master Bates

[Teddeer]

2 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Why not? Injuries etc, anything with us is possible, I don't see why not tbf. One goal in 2 games We've scored thus far.

We've scored 2 goals in 2 games.

[Dr Who?]

24 minutes ago, Teddeer said:

We've scored 2 goals in 2 games.

Hard maths this one. Unless it’s because of the own goal. But goals are goals. 

[Dellman]

36 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Sorloth not over!?!

Leipzig have given Sorloth permission to skip training today as the reported Southampton target closes in on a move to the Premier League.

WE don't need him. We don't want more overload. No more over priced pricey stars, we've just got rid of them. Semmens and Ralph are rebuilding the Southampton Way: young and hungry stars in the making. I am now looking forward to the season, I was dreading it a month ago.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Arsenal have permanently over-bought midfielders in the last ten years when defence was their biggest issue and everyone could see it.

Lampard at Chelsea in his second season over bought attacking-midfielders and the balance went.

Not even talking positions but look at promoted teams that overbought and overspent only to either scrape and stay up or go straight back down again: Aston Villa, Watford, Fulham, QPR etc…

 

It IS possible to unbalance the team with too many of the same player. And I’d be equally fuming if we bought another attacking player when it is quite clear what the problem is. I’m always confident we will take our chances, but I am not as confident about us keeping goals out.

[SuperSAINT]

Zero need for a striker.  We have SIX currently.

[saintwbu]

Sorloth is off to Sociedad, he’s not coming here

[hypochondriac]

We won't sign anyone else after this CB. I'd like a DM but I doubt we will get that and they've already said we aren't getting a keeper. 

[Chez]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

Interesting that the young players we’ve signed or have been linked with are defenders. Wonder if that just coincidence or we think we’ve got a few good attacking players coming though already 

I guess Tella fits that bill?

Perhaps we will try to turn Broja into a permanent deal too.

[Pilchards]

I reckon a loan midfielder who’s captain sort.

Someone who can teach the youngsters something like Henderson does at Liverpool.

However it depends if we can get one or two off our wage bill.

[Chez]

Just now, Pilchards said:

I reckon a loan midfielder who’s captain sort.

Someone who can teach the youngsters something like Henderson does at Liverpool.

However it depends if we can get one or two off our wage bill.

lose Long and we get a Minamino sort

[davefizzy14]

https://www.foot-sur7.fr/462226-om-mercato-porte-se-ferme-caleta-car/amp

According to this article, we are still interested in Caleta-Car.

[Cartman]

Maybe we can get Strakosha for a packet of crisps in January. Out of contract in 2022 and didn't start for Lazio at the weekend.

[TWar]

6 hours ago, Cartman said:

Maybe we can get Strakosha for a packet of crisps in January. Out of contract in 2022 and didn't start for Lazio at the weekend.

We could probably get Strakosha and Caleta-Car for a combined £30m or so, shame we are saving our money and bargain shopping for CBs

[redkeith]

11 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Don’t think we ever bid for him. Was just some minor interest.

Wonder if Isak is off then? Great player, be interesting to see where we ends up.

He is a replacement for Jose, the guy that was on loan at Wolves last year

[hypochondriac]

Any chance of Ox Chamberlain on loan? I was excited by that one. 

[Saint_clark]

48 minutes ago, TWar said:

We could probably get Strakosha and Caleta-Car for a combined £30m or so, shame we are saving our money and bargain shopping for CBs

The problem is that we don't have any money to save. 

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Any chance of Ox Chamberlain on loan? I was excited by that one. 

No. He started Liverpool’s first game of the season and only missed the second because his girlfriend went into labour. There’s no chance he’s uprooting himself or his family for 6 months. 

[DT]

Get a not shit goalie. Get a not shit goalie. Get a not shit goalie. 
massive Achilles heel whoever else we get in. 

[Dusic]

Whilst we have a free PL loan spot, it might be worth saving that til January, as otherwise our ability to do anything then would be severely restricted, as unlikely we are going to be in a position to buy anyone should we need to.

Clearly keeper is on the backburner til Forster's contract finishes.

A #10 would be ideal but we don't need numbers so it would have to be a player who is a step up from what we have and again that will be nigh on impossible financially aside from maybe a loan. I feel we have quite a few quick dribblers but could do with a more technical option, and I would take Minamino on loan again if the opportunity arose.

Otherwise hopefully we can sign Kerr Smith for the 23s.

As an aside, astonished Harry Lewis hasn't been loaned out, he appears to want to be the next Stuart Taylor.

[Jeremy Corbyn]

13 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Whilst we have a free PL loan spot, it might be worth saving that til January, as otherwise our ability to do anything then would be severely restricted, as unlikely we are going to be in a position to buy anyone should we need to.

Clearly keeper is on the backburner til Forster's contract finishes.

A #10 would be ideal but we don't need numbers so it would have to be a player who is a step up from what we have and again that will be nigh on impossible financially aside from maybe a loan. I feel we have quite a few quick dribblers but could do with a more technical option, and I would take Minamino on loan again if the opportunity arose.

Otherwise hopefully we can sign Kerr Smith for the 23s.

As an aside, astonished Harry Lewis hasn't been loaned out, he appears to want to be the next Stuart Taylor.

The new Neil Moss.

[igsey]

47 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Whilst we have a free PL loan spot, it might be worth saving that til January, as otherwise our ability to do anything then would be severely restricted, as unlikely we are going to be in a position to buy anyone should we need to.

Clearly keeper is on the backburner til Forster's contract finishes.

A #10 would be ideal but we don't need numbers so it would have to be a player who is a step up from what we have and again that will be nigh on impossible financially aside from maybe a loan. I feel we have quite a few quick dribblers but could do with a more technical option, and I would take Minamino on loan again if the opportunity arose.

Otherwise hopefully we can sign Kerr Smith for the 23s.

As an aside, astonished Harry Lewis hasn't been loaned out, he appears to want to be the next Stuart Taylor.

What are the rules on loans? Is it two domestic, two foreign? I'm sure Fulham had about 4 loanees last season.

[Dman]

10 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Zero need for a striker.  We have SIX currently.

Every need for a striker when our option off the bench Saturday was Shane Long. 

Where is this lad from Chelsea? Is he injured? Tella can do a job up top, however I think he’s (along with Armstrong) needed to be our wingers. 

We won’t be spending 13m on another player though and if we did, I’d rather we prioritised a keeper. On that note, Romero is still available on a free. Seems like a no brainier to me, even if it’s a short term deal. 

[TWar]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

Every need for a striker when our option off the bench Saturday was Shane Long. 

Where is this lad from Chelsea? Is he injured? Tella can do a job up top, however I think he’s (along with Armstrong) needed to be our wingers. 

We won’t be spending 13m on another player though and if we did, I’d rather we prioritised a keeper. On that note, Romero is still available on a free. Seems like a no brainier to me, even if it’s a short term deal. 

Broja is being eased in. As it stands we have Armstrong, Adams, Tella, Broja and Obafemi. We have 0 need for a striker. Any other role would be more appropriate (except RB)

Edited 25 August, 2021 by TWar

[igsey]

Delaney to Sevilla basically confirmed.

[TWar]

2 minutes ago, igsey said:

Delaney to Sevilla basically confirmed.

One of our stranger transfer sagas as Ralph basically ruled it out right at the beginning but it kept reappearing

[Dman]

3 minutes ago, TWar said:

Broja is being eased in. As it stands we have Armstrong, Adams, Tella, Broja and Obafemi. We have 0 need for a striker. Any other role would be more appropriate (except RB)

Personally, I find it amazing anyone can look at that list and say we have no need for a striker. Especially given behind Armstrong and Adams (both pretty unproven at this level), we have one ‘being eased in’, one being managed out (obafemi), Tella who’s probably our best winger and Long who put simply is no longer effective at this level. 

Yes we may have numbers, but we certainly don’t have any really quality there. 

The general feel at the end of last season was that we needed Ings, Adams + another then a youngster.

Effectively, what that would look like isArmstrong replacing Long, Borja to replace Obafemi, imo we still need a striker to replace ings. 
 

That being said, we also need 2 CB’s and a goal keeper. The trouble is in recent years we’ve stockpiled a lot of very, very average players to the point where we’re lacking quality in depth across the park. 

[TWar]

7 minutes ago, Dman said:

Personally, I find it amazing anyone can look at that list and say we have no need for a striker. Especially given behind Armstrong and Adams (both pretty unproven at this level), we have one ‘being eased in’, one being managed out (obafemi), Tella who’s probably our best winger and Long who put simply is no longer effective at this level. 

Yes we may have numbers, but we certainly don’t have any really quality there. 

The general feel at the end of last season was that we needed Ings, Adams + another then a youngster.

Effectively, what that would look like isArmstrong replacing Long, Borja to replace Obafemi, imo we still need a striker to replace ings. 
 

That being said, we also need 2 CB’s and a goal keeper. The trouble is in recent years we’ve stockpiled a lot of very, very average players to the point where we’re lacking quality in depth across the park. 

Adams is a fine mid table striker, that has been proven. Armstrong isn't proven but a team of our size isn't going to sign a proven prem striker, a 28 goal championship striker is a good replacement. Broja had a good season last year too, he's only been here like 2 weeks, give him another couple before saying he isn't enough, Tella is not our best winger at all, Stuart is far better, and Tella clearly is being played up top this season. Obafemi might be leaving but it isn't confirmed yet. Look at any other midtable prem side, our striker depth and starting players are plenty compared to that.

Armstrong is clearly not replacing Long, that is mental. We don't spend £15m+ on a replacement for a player who is out on loan and barely plays. Armstrong is our Ings replacement obviously, Broja is our way of increasing depth, Tella is our youth player and Adams is still Adams. Thats the four strikers we need and it should be plenty.

I agree we didn't have the best depth last season but if you think a team of our size is signing a proven prem striker to replace Ings and a 28 goal championship striker to be 3rd/4th choice off our bench you are being thoroughly unrealistic.

Edited 25 August, 2021 by TWar

[saintwbu]

Ralph clearly sees Tella as a striker, not a winger. We also have a number of players that Ralph regards as being able to play there if needed (Walcott, Redmond), regardless of our opinion of them. We essentially have 8 potential strikers, we are not getting another. There is only one area of the team where I think we could still do with someone, albeit probably not urgent, and that’s CM. Yes I would like a better GK, and probably a better option in the wide area, but they’re not pressing in terms of actual personnel.

[TWar]

Just now, saintwbu said:

Ralph clearly sees Tella as a striker, not a winger. We also have a number of players that Ralph regards as being able to play there if needed (Walcott, Redmond), regardless of our opinion of them. We essentially have 8 potential strikers, we are not getting another. There is only one area of the team where I think we could still do with someone, albeit probably not urgent, and that’s CM. Yes I would like a better GK, and probably a better option in the wide area, but they’re not pressing in terms of actual personnel.

Yeah we have 8 potential strikers and our starters will be Adams who got 9 last season and Armstrong who has similar stats to Ollie Watkins, sometimes I think our fans confuse us with a team the size of Spurs or Arsenal, what we have is plenty for our goals.

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, Dman said:

Personally, I find it amazing anyone can look at that list and say we have no need for a striker. Especially given behind Armstrong and Adams (both pretty unproven at this level), we have one ‘being eased in’, one being managed out (obafemi), Tella who’s probably our best winger and Long who put simply is no longer effective at this level. 

Yes we may have numbers, but we certainly don’t have any really quality there. 

The general feel at the end of last season was that we needed Ings, Adams + another then a youngster.

Effectively, what that would look like is Armstrong replacing Long, Borja to replace Obafemi, imo we still need a striker to replace ings. 

We play a system with 2 strikers, we don't really need more than 4 dedicated strikers for that. If anything the squad is too bloated with Long and Obafemi still here.

Armstrong is clearly not the Long replacement, Long wasn't even in the squad for the last part of the season Ings was here to require replacing. Armstrong is the Ings replacement. Tella has been more effective as a striker and Broja hasn't joined on loan to not make the squad due to us signing another striker.

[saintwbu]

1 minute ago, TWar said:

Yeah we have 8 potential strikers and our starters will be Adams who got 9 last season and Armstrong who has similar stats to Ollie Watkins, sometimes I think our fans confuse us with a team the size of Spurs or Arsenal, what we have is plenty for our goals.

I think Ings has made the world think every team needs a 20 a season striker. The reality is outside the top 6 teams (even they often don’t), almost no one gets 20 goals. 12/13 is perfectly respectable for a mid table striker. 

[SuperSAINT]

@Dman is a bit like Ossie Ardiles as spurs boss in a the 90’s.  Whack 5 up top and have forward options on the bench incase it’s not enough 😁

[MarkSFC]

1 minute ago, saintwbu said:

I think Ings has made the world think every team needs a 20 a season striker. The reality is outside the top 6 teams (even they often don’t), almost no one gets 20 goals. 12/13 is perfectly respectable for a mid table striker. 

Quite right. We needed his 20 2 seasons ago and last (although he didnt) because our defense has been so poor. 

Our issues lie in the CB and DCM areas. 

[TWar]

24 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

I think Ings has made the world think every team needs a 20 a season striker. The reality is outside the top 6 teams (even they often don’t), almost no one gets 20 goals. 12/13 is perfectly respectable for a mid table striker. 

Yeah bang on. Even 12/13 is way above average for starting premier league strikers. Last season 11 teams didn't have a player who scored over 12 goals including us and Man City! Teams like Chelsea, Brighton, Fulham, Sheffield United, and Wolves didn't have a single player who cracked double figures. Wolves stayed up comfortably and their top scorer got 5.

It's our defence that needs a boost if anything, and our fans really need to have a better grasp of what "premier league level numbers" actually entail as Che is a perfectly serviceable option for pushing top half, let alone staying up.

Edited 25 August, 2021 by TWar

[waylander]

57 minutes ago, Dman said:

Personally, I find it amazing anyone can look at that list and say we have no need for a striker. Especially given behind Armstrong and Adams (both pretty unproven at this level), we have one ‘being eased in’, one being managed out (obafemi), Tella who’s probably our best winger and Long who put simply is no longer effective at this level. 

Yes we may have numbers, but we certainly don’t have any really quality there. 

The general feel at the end of last season was that we needed Ings, Adams + another then a youngster.

Effectively, what that would look like isArmstrong replacing Long, Borja to replace Obafemi, imo we still need a striker to replace ings. 
 

That being said, we also need 2 CB’s and a goal keeper. The trouble is in recent years we’ve stockpiled a lot of very, very average players to the point where we’re lacking quality in depth across the park. 

And how much do you think a proven PL quality striker costs, in both fees and wages? You seem incapable of understanding the reality of our financial situation.

[LuckyNumber7]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

Personally, I find it amazing anyone can look at that list and say we have no need for a striker. Especially given behind Armstrong and Adams (both pretty unproven at this level), we have one ‘being eased in’, one being managed out (obafemi), Tella who’s probably our best winger and Long who put simply is no longer effective at this level. 

Yes we may have numbers, but we certainly don’t have any really quality there. 

The general feel at the end of last season was that we needed Ings, Adams + another then a youngster.

Effectively, what that would look like isArmstrong replacing Long, Borja to replace Obafemi, imo we still need a striker to replace ings. 
 

That being said, we also need 2 CB’s and a goal keeper. The trouble is in recent years we’ve stockpiled a lot of very, very average players to the point where we’re lacking quality in depth across the park. 

Armstrong is quite obviously Ings' replacement.

Him and Adams will be our first choice, with Broja and Tella as backup, possibly Obafemi too if he stays. Not to even mention Long.

That is perfectly acceptable for a club of our size.

[OldNick]

18 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Mignolet rumoured on Twitter 15m

Thank you Duncan, Ia clever heads up I hope

[tajjuk]

I think Armstrong will match or exceed Ings last year if he doesn't get a major injury and I think Adams will exceed what he did last year, I think we will end up with two double figures strikers. 

Armstrong is not the level of clinical finisher of Ings, may never be, (but hopefully will improve with training and experience in the league) but I think his speed and hopefully his fitness will give him more chances to score goals over the course of the season. I also think the Adams/Armstrong partnership already looks good and is likely to only get better and they seem to compliment each other more than Ins/Adams did.  I think the two of them will be greater than the sum of their parts basically.