RedArmy Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 At what point do people start accepting this isn’t coincidental? 1 1 1
BotleySaint Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Crazy game. Yet again two decisions against us to knock the confidence. Fortunately, there was no ambiguity with Romeu's amazing tackle. Just an amazing piece of play. Or he'd be off.
BotleySaint Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, RedArmy said: At what point do people start accepting this isn’t coincidental? It does feel like a fix. But I can't see how. Too big a scale!
hackedoff Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Are we the unluckiest team in the world or do the refs just hate us? No, just a "make up the numbers "team that happens to play in the warped Premier league. 1
ChrisPY Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, trousers said: Think the whistle was just after JWP struck the ball. Split second though If it’s a split second then him clearly saying ‘I wasn’t ready’ is rubbish as he was moving the whistle to his mouth show the exact opposite. IF that’s his justification for blowing again and disallowing then it’s a shocking decision. To me, Leeds looked set up and ready so can’t understand why play wasn’t allowed to continue.
trousers Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 I'm more than happy to have a pop at the officials a when there's obvious ineptitude but I think they've made the right decisions so far (albeit marginal) 5
StrangelyBrown Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 (edited) Anyone who tells me that there isn't an agenda against us needs to look at the some total of decisions that have gone our way and those that have gone against us. Since that iffy penalty against Brighton I swear we haven't had one borderline decision go for us. If there was no cheating at least one would go our way... Edited 23 February, 2021 by StrangelyBrown Typo 1
davefizzy14 Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Marriner definitely blew his whistle before we took the free kick, what a joke. 1
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 I've never really understood this 'wait for the whistle' thing. If JWP had taken the FK quickly as soon as the ref gave it, there would be no issue. At what point does that right end and the imperative to wait for the whistle comes into play? 1
Lighthouse Posted 23 February, 2021 Author Posted 23 February, 2021 Unpopular opinion - Both of those were the correct call. 4
Baird of the land Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 (edited) Frustrating not to be in the lead after being the better team, yet but for Romeu wonder tackle we'd be behind As for the penalty, i don't see how that was a clear and obvious error even if it was soft. Freekick, does seem clear cut that ref hadn't blown. not sure why he hadn't though. Hopefully take off the struggling redmond for Ings soon. Edited 23 February, 2021 by Baird of the land
Manuel Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, davefizzy14 said: Marriner definitely blew his whistle before we took the free kick, what a joke. I thought Prowse kicked it marginally before Mariner blew to be honest so Mariner wanted it brought back. Like to see a replay though... 1
Disco Stu Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Get Ings on and finish this shit run. Leeds have been shocking. We can't let them take anything from this. 1
Kingsland Codger Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Why should a team wait for the referee to whistle? Didn’t Ings score at Arsenal last season from a quick free-kick? If the referee says wait for the whistle it is to give the defending side time to organise themselves and since they have committed the error, why should they have any advantage? 2
Saints foreva Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, Lighthouse said: Unpopular opinion - Both of those were the correct call. Also the right opinion. Will give people an excuse though if we lose this game.
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, ChrisPY said: If it’s a split second then him clearly saying ‘I wasn’t ready’ is rubbish as he was moving the whistle to his mouth show the exact opposite. IF that’s his justification for blowing again and disallowing then it’s a shocking decision. To me, Leeds looked set up and ready so can’t understand why play wasn’t allowed to continue. “The referee gives a signal” It doesn’t have to be a whistle unless the referee has given explicit instructions. Some refs allow quick free kicks without a whistle.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, StrangelyBrown said: Anyone who tells me that there isn't an agenda against us needs to look at the some total of decisions that have gone our way and those that have gone against us. Since that iffy penalty against Brighton I swear we haven't had one borderline decision go for us. If there was no cheating at least one would go our way... Grow up, there isn’t an agenda against us. 2
obelisk Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Despite all the controversy Saints surely have enough to open up this Leeds defence. The attack has been pretty wasteful though.
SaintSteve Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said: Marriner definitely blew his whistle before we took the free kick, what a joke. No he didn’t..Which it’s exactly why it’s disallowed. Unfortunately the Tella incident wasn’t a penalty either 1
egg Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, obelisk said: Looks the ref's union have black-balled Saints. Yep. And it's no surprise. Old Boys club.
Teddeer Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Some good moments. Two gilt edge chances in the first 8 minutes and we couldn't take either. It was never a penalty and Tella gets more respect if he attempts to beat the player and stay on his feet rather than hanging out a leg. Need to stop piling everyone forward for free kicks and keep enough back because Romeu's brilliance got us out of an embarrassing hole there. Not sure Redmond knows we're in the red and white shirts but the rest have been reasonable. Could go either way.
igsey Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Why does the ref have the whistle in his mouth for so long before blowing?
Lord Duckhunter Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, Whitey Grandad said: “The referee gives a signal” It doesn’t have to be a whistle unless the referee has given explicit instructions. Some refs allow quick free kicks without a whistle. There’s only one thing that matters. Did the ref say wait for my whistle. If he did, he’s right to disallow it. 1
Lighthouse Posted 23 February, 2021 Author Posted 23 February, 2021 Yep, confirmed in the studio, pretty unequivocal. Tella should have been booked for diving if we're being honest but nobody is giving those decisions.
whelk Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 So this grand conspiracy involves awarding us a pen knowing VAR will overturn. Stop embarrassing yourselves lads
stknowle Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: I've never really understood this 'wait for the whistle' thing. If JWP had taken the FK quickly as soon as the ref gave it, there would be no issue. At what point does that right end and the imperative to wait for the whistle comes into play? This!? I've never got it either - taking a quick free kick is just a standard part of the game but then in other instances you have to wait for the whistle. What dictates what is acceptable in each situation? 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, SaintSteve said: No he didn’t..Which it’s exactly why it’s disallowed. Unfortunately the Tella incident wasn’t a penalty either Very close. It takes a fraction of a second for the sound to reach the microphones.
The Cat Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Both decisions correct. Definitely blew the whistle after the free kick and Tella dived, which I absolutely hate so I'm pleased it was overturned. Mad game, pitch is a joke.
adrian lord Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: “The referee gives a signal” It doesn’t have to be a whistle unless the referee has given explicit instructions. Some refs allow quick free kicks without a whistle. Exactly.
Foxy Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Unpopular opinion - Both of those were the correct call. Regrettably I’d say you’re right. The penalty was the closer call for me
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, Lord Duckhunter said: There’s only one thing that matters. Did the ref say wait for my whistle. If he did, he’s right to disallow it. And that we cannot know at this stage.
The Cat Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, whelk said: Fuck Souness you Scottish cunt He's right though, Tella cheated. 1
Manuel Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, whelk said: Fuck Souness you Scottish cunt No idea what he said but I agree. 2
Disco Stu Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 1 minute ago, stknowle said: This!? I've never got it either - taking a quick free kick is just a standard part of the game but then in other instances you have to wait for the whistle. What dictates what is acceptable in each situation? I would also like this clarified. Unless quick free-kicks are being eradicated?
egg Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, SaintSteve said: No he didn’t..Which it’s exactly why it’s disallowed. Unfortunately the Tella incident wasn’t a penalty either BBC site take on it: "The incident was really bizarre. Andre Mariner was looking at James Ward-Prowse standing on the free-kick. Mariner turned away then put his whistle to his lips and seemed to blow just as Ward-Prowse played the ball through to Che Adams. Leeds were static, were not ready for the kick to be taken but for some reason Mariner decided that he had actually NOT blown the whistle and asks Southampton to retake it".
davefizzy14 Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Wonder tackle from Romeu in the 1st half 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, Foxy said: Regrettably I’d say you’re right. The penalty was the closer call for me Tella trips himself but after his right foot has been caught by the defender. Not clear cut.
moonraker Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Get Ings on and finish this shit run. Leeds have been shocking. We can't let them take anything from this. Not Ings Djenepo Ings for Adams
Causer Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 We have tried that quick free kick before this season. A good ref would have prepared and not faffed around turning his back on play.
vectraman Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 6 minutes ago, trousers said: I'm more than happy to have a pop at the officials a when there's obvious ineptitude but I think they've made the right decisions so far (albeit marginal) Completely agree. JWP kicked the ball before the whistle (no matter how marginal it was before the whistle) and Tells stuck his leg out looking for the pen. If that was given against us we'd be going crazy.....ref got it right.
sydney_saint Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, Manuel said: I thought Prowse kicked it marginally before Mariner blew to be honest so Mariner wanted it brought back. Like to see a replay though... I think this as well sadly. Tella showing Redmond how to play football this half. It's embarrassing that Redmond is still in the first XI. I'm not even convinced he works that hard. There was a moment around the 25th minute where the ball bobbled in their box and he lightly jogged towards it. Two minutes later in the middle of the pitch he gentled dropped back again and Vestegaard ended up getting booked. Compare that to Tella who is racing back to help, or Djenepo on Saturday doing everything for the team. Redmond is more likely to throw his hands up in frustation. I posted this before, and you can add an assist and a few more minutes, but Redmonds output for us has been gash> If ain't even as working as hard as others then what on earth is he doing out there. Redmond- 11,515 EPL minutes for us- 19 goals, 12 assists Armstrong-4,627 EPL minutes for us-11 goals, 7 assists Shane Long- 9,339 EPL minutes for us - 27 goals, 20 assists Tadic- 9, 617 EPL minutes- 21 goals, 30 assists Djenepo - 1, 735' EPL minutes-3 goals, 2 assists Che Adams - 2, 827' - EPL minutes - 8 goals, 7 assists. Boufal - 3, 072' EPL minutes - 3 goals 2 assists On Romeu, that is one of the biggest dick tackles I have seen. 1
Teddeer Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, The Cat said: He's right though, Tella cheated. As they all do. Some get away with it and get penalties others don't.
Disco Stu Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Just now, The Cat said: He's right though, Tella cheated. So did Bamford. If Tella deserves a yellow, so does he.
Micky Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Get your rise tints off guys, both decisions were correct. You'd be pissed off if they went against us.
macca155 Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Marriner is one of the better refs. He got both decisions right .... just. I hate VAR just the officials decide and then we can shout at them. Tella doing well, let's have a decent 2nd half please.
qwertyell Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 Talk about a victim complex: Tella dived and Prowse took the free kick before the whistle. Sucks for us, but the rules were applied properly. Decent first 20 minutes from us, but our lack of quality in the forward positions is painful. We got sloppy after that and Leeds were the more dangerous team overall. The amazing Romeu tackle glosses over how truly inept our defensive set up was from our own bloody free kick. Assume we've run our race now and Leeds will eventually cash in on one of our myriad mistakes. If we get through this match on a fucking ice rink without any injuries that'll be a result.
John Boy Saint Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 (edited) If Tella had Rashford or Salah on his back - penalty 38 games of the season 🙃 Edited 23 February, 2021 by John Boy Saint 1
Turkish Posted 23 February, 2021 Posted 23 February, 2021 8 minutes ago, trousers said: I'm more than happy to have a pop at the officials a when there's obvious ineptitude but I think they've made the right decisions so far (albeit marginal) Agreed. Both decisions were right, we may not like them but it doesn’t mean they aren’t correct 1
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