LGBT+ Discussion

[Turkish]

Do we have some gesture we all need to take photos of ourselves doing or is that just for international birds day?

[AlexLaw76]

Seems normal

 

[Fan The Flames]

15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Seems normal

 

I'm struggling to see what the issue is here, is it because they are walking on the road or was the pride flag upside down?

[pingpong]

1 minute ago, Fan The Flames said:

I'm struggling to see what the issue is here, is it because they are walking on the road or was the pride flag upside down?

I assume it's because the camera operator is walking the opposite direction to everyone else.

[Fan The Flames]

38 minutes ago, pingpong said:

I assume it's because the camera operator is walking the opposite direction to everyone else.

Ahh thanks 

[Turkish]

59 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Seems normal

 

Love this ❤️👏 great that these beings are so comfortable expressing themselves like this. We’re making huge progress aren’t we 🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈😍

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Seems normal

 

It's a slippery slope:

 

[Turkish]

14 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

It's a slippery slope:

 

and some people believe in evolution. 

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

and some people believe in evolution. 

I’d say this is fairly solid evidence of evolution, personally. We’ve found the missing link between brachiopods and early crustaceans.

[sadoldgit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ukraine-ap-russia-kyiv-protesters-b2563458.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jun/16/first-ukraine-pride-march-since-russian-invasion-takes-place-in-kyiv

Is this funny too?

Edited 25 June, 2024 by sadoldgit

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

and some people believe in evolution. 

And even devolution…

[badgerx16]

Anybody posting pictures of that fat skate cunt should get an automatic 5 day ban from the forum.

[skintsaint]

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/1810055161982992446?s=46

Like a young Trans Beckenbauer.

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/1810055161982992446?s=46

Like a young Trans Beckenbauer.

Top class punnery 👍

[pingpong]

3 hours ago, skintsaint said:

https://x.com/jonnywsbell/status/1810055161982992446?s=46

Like a young Trans Beckenbauer.

That's a shame, that's only 5 years ago, but before the tories selected transwomen as their political target, and they seemed so hopeful that sport was becoming more inclusive.  They must be so demoralised now  they are no longer welcome in that space.

[skintsaint]

On 09/07/2024 at 20:05, The Kraken said:

Top class punnery 👍

Just seen this list.

 

- Zlatan Usedtobeahimovic

- Papa Bouba Pre-Op

- Park She's Hung

- Robin tran persie

- Paul Dickoff

- Steve McManaTran

- Leroy Trane 

- Gaël he/she

[badgerx16]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p28g8qy3eo

Rishi Sunak is facing calls to expel Suella Braverman from the Conservative Party following remarks she made about an LGBTQ+ flag.

 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p28g8qy3eo

Rishi Sunak is facing calls to expel Suella Braverman from the Conservative Party following remarks she made about an LGBTQ+ flag.

 

"An lbtq+ flag". Some people should educate themselves on what the progress pride flag actually is. Perfectly possible to support what the actual pride flag stands for an oppose this progress pride flag nonsense ideology.

[The Kraken]

I couldn’t much care about Sue Ellen’s flag preferences, but her self-reflection feature seems to be faulty.

She told the Washington conference: "Our problem is that the liberal Conservatives who trashed the Tory party think it was everyone's fault but their own."

[pingpong]

53 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6p28g8qy3eo

Rishi Sunak is facing calls to expel Suella Braverman from the Conservative Party following remarks she made about an LGBTQ+ flag.

 

To be fair, we don't know what she thinks of trans people seeking care, because 'it physically repulses' her to talk about 'it'.  If she can't get past her physical repulsion of transpeople I'm not sure she is the right person to be talking  about policy.

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, pingpong said:

To be fair, we don't know what she thinks of trans people seeking care, because 'it physically repulses' her to talk about 'it'.  If she can't get past her physical repulsion of transpeople I'm not sure she is the right person to be talking  about policy.

When you say seeking care do you mean removing body parts or taking hormones that do irreversible damage to their bodies in the fruitless attempt to change sex? 

[pingpong]

14 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

When you say seeking care do you mean removing body parts or taking hormones that do irreversible damage to their bodies in the fruitless attempt to change sex? 

I mean seeking help from medical professionals. Waiting list is currently 5yrs for an appointment though, just to have a discussion, so not sure this is the scary disgusting problem she thinks it is.

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, pingpong said:

I mean seeking help from medical professionals. Waiting list is currently 5yrs for an appointment though, just to have a discussion, so not sure this is the scary disgusting problem she thinks it is.

What help from medical professionals are you talking about? Hopefully not the sort of medical help criticised in the Cass review. If its something like therapy then sure. Did Suella really say that trans people seeking therapy disgusts her? That's wild! 

[Turkish]

14 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

What help from medical professionals are you talking about? Hopefully not the sort of medical help criticised in the Cass review. If its something like therapy then sure. Did Suella really say that trans people seeking therapy disgusts her? That's wild! 

A cure maybe? Unlikely as it’s a big money spinner these days. All these support groups, operations, convincing perfectly normal, healthy people they’re going through normal, healthy emotions because they’re in the wrong body and just spend this much on a treatment for it and itll be okay why would they want that gravy train to end?
 

 

[hypochondriac]

15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

A cure maybe? Unlikely as it’s a big money spinner these days. All these support groups, operations, convincing perfectly normal, healthy people they’re going through normal, healthy emotions because they’re in the wrong body and just spend this much on a treatment for it and itll be okay why would they want that gravy train to end?
 

 

Yep. All these companies want lifelong medical patients. Nice little earner. 

[pingpong]

On 11/07/2024 at 23:07, hypochondriac said:

What help from medical professionals are you talking about? Hopefully not the sort of medical help criticised in the Cass review. If its something like therapy then sure. Did Suella really say that trans people seeking therapy disgusts her? That's wild! 

Yes, therapy, from a specialist. To talk through their needs. 5 yr waiting list currently, and a 2 hr trip if you are hampshire. Braverman didn't say it was disgusting, she said she was too physically repulsed to talk about it.

 

 

[pingpong]

On 11/07/2024 at 23:27, Turkish said:

A cure maybe? Unlikely as it’s a big money spinner these days. All these support groups, operations, convincing perfectly normal, healthy people they’re going through normal, healthy emotions because they’re in the wrong body and just spend this much on a treatment for it and itll be okay why would they want that gravy train to end?
 

 

Least efficiently run gravy train of all time then.

Unless your gravy is in making mortuary slabs, or gravestones, or suicide helplines.

[hypochondriac]

33 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Yes, therapy, from a specialist. To talk through their needs. 5 yr waiting list currently, and a 2 hr trip if you are hampshire. Braverman didn't say it was disgusting, she said she was too physically repulsed to talk about it.

 

 

What was she too physically repulsed to talk about? What were her exact words? Talking to a therapist is a good thing. I haven't personally seen anyone opposing trans people talking to a therapist. They obviously need mental health support like that. 

[suewhistle]

I suppose I'd better put a trigger warning on this post, but the town centre might be a bit busier than normal with Southampton Pride on. Saints shop have a nifty line in Pride souvenirs and I might splash out on a keyring. They have a Saints and Pride flag too, but as I'm not normally a flag waver won't break the habit, tempting though it is to wind up a few of our forum membership.

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

I suppose I'd better put a trigger warning on this post, but the town centre might be a bit busier than normal with Southampton Pride on. Saints shop have a nifty line in Pride souvenirs and I might splash out on a keyring. They have a Saints and Pride flag too, but as I'm not normally a flag waver won't break the habit, tempting though it is to wind up a few of our forum membership.

You're gay sue? I hadn't realised. 

[suewhistle]

My bingo card has started well..

[badgerx16]

In the case of "Tickle versus Giggle" an Australian Court has made a landmark decision;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07ev1v7r4po

[Turkish]

12 hours ago, suewhistle said:

I suppose I'd better put a trigger warning on this post, but the town centre might be a bit busier than normal with Southampton Pride on. Saints shop have a nifty line in Pride souvenirs and I might splash out on a keyring. They have a Saints and Pride flag too, but as I'm not normally a flag waver won't break the habit, tempting though it is to wind up a few of our forum membership.

Who do you think you are winding up Sue?

[Turkish]

19 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

You're gay sue? I hadn't realised. 

It seems she posted on this thread to tell us she was buying a key ring from the saints shop. Way to go Sue 👍👍👍👍

[Turkish]

[The Kraken]

I just hope Sue bought her keyring and I trust it really wound up as many people as she expected it would.

Sue plays football. Drinks beer too. She doesn’t mention it very often though.

[Turkish]

39 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I just hope Sue bought her keyring and I trust it really wound up as many people as she expected it would.

Sue plays football. Drinks beer too. She doesn’t mention it very often though.

Didn’t she live in another country too? Can’t remember which one it was. Glad she got a nice new key ring though, even if it did really piss off most of this forum 

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, hippo said:

Not sure I said anywhere that he should be forced.

I’m just within my rights to call him for a prick for not wanting to show even an inkling of support to the campaign. 

why is he a prick? 

[coalman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[Chewy]

This thread being derailed by a woke debate is as tedious as MLG derailing it with correcting punctuation or the COT.

All for you guys having your “fun” (each to their own …) but can you take it to another thread?

[whelk]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes but simply calling him a prick because he doesn't want to wear the laces is not on imo. I thought he explained himself rather well. 

Be a dilemma if it was for his Islamic beliefs. 

[sadoldgit]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

why is he a prick? 

Because people who don’t call out homophobia are pricks.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Chewy said:

This thread being derailed by a woke debate is as tedious as MLG derailing it with correcting punctuation or the COT.

All for you guys having your “fun” (each to their own …) but can you take it to another thread?

I dont think it's particularly "fun" labelling a possible new signing a "prick" because he didn't feel comfortable doing something everyone else was doing. I'd actually say it showed a good strength of character to stand by his beliefs. 

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Because people who don’t call out homophobia are pricks.

 

Why was it homophonic not wearing rainbow laces if it was against his beliefs?

Homosexuality is banned in Islam, perhaps, given he is of Morrocan descent, he is a muslim and he did it for his religious beliefs. Does that make all Muslims "pricks"?

Edited 29 August, 2024 by Turkish

[whelk]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Because people who don’t call out homophobia are pricks.

So people should be forced to go against their religious beliefs? I am assuming Lighthouse will move these posts to the Lounge with an intriguing title.

[iansums]

31 minutes ago, hippo said:

Beautifully worded sugarcoating of homophobia. 

 👏

I deliberately avoided skipping through the centre of Southampton last Saturday as I didn't want to have anything to do with the Pride event.

[imadirtyurchin]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

 

Why was it homophonic not wearing rainbow laces if it was against his beliefs?

Homophobia is banned in Islam, perhaps, given he is of Morrocan descent, he is a muslim and he did it for his religious beliefs. Does that make all Muslims "pricks"?

I don’t think you mean to say that homophobia is banned in Islam… right? Or are you suggesting that he is a bad Muslim by practicing homophobia. It’s just all so confusing *clutches pearls*

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

So people should be forced to go against their religious beliefs? 

If those beliefs are homophobic, then yes. Depends on what is meant by 'forced'.

Edited 29 August, 2024 by Matthew Le God

[whelk]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

If those beliefs are homophobic, then yes.

And the west are the the arbiters of what are the ‘correct’ things to believe?

[Matthew Le God]

Just now, whelk said:

And the west are the the arbiters of what are the ‘correct’ things to believe?

Start a thread in the lounge about this and we can discuss it there.