LGBT+ Discussion

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Well there would be a 'T' in it for the tomato for starters. CTLUB sandwich maybe?

Where would you put the M for mayonnaise?

[skintsaint]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Where would you put the M for mayonnaise?

would make it a CUMBLT.

Edited 24 January, 2024 by skintsaint

[Fan The Flames]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Did you know a club sandwich is called so because club stands for chicken lettuce under bacon? 

Every day is a school day. But I suspect that's one of those backward engineered things like port out, starboard home for posh.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

would make it a CUMBLT.

Err that’s another sort of sandwich pal

[skintsaint]

Just now, Turkish said:

Err that’s another sort of sandwich pal

Its lucky I don't eat tomato.

[Turkish]

59 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

It’s lucky I don't eat tomato.

Keeping this thread on topic if you added guacamole it could be an LGBTC+ sandwich 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Well there would be a 'T' in it for the tomato for starters. CTLUB sandwich maybe?

No CLUB+ without the T.

[AlexLaw76]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68122079

[Fan The Flames]

3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68122079

Well thats LGBTQIA2S+ history right there. Thanks for sharing Dell Days.

[Patrick Bateman]

On 31/01/2024 at 22:19, Fan The Flames said:

Well thats LGBTQIA2S+ history right there. Thanks for sharing Dell Days.

2?

S?

WTF are they? God when I was younger the "LGB" abbreviation was so much easier to say/type ... FFS

[Turkish]

6 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

2?

S?

WTF are they? God when I was younger the "LGB" abbreviation was so much easier to say/type ... FFS

Such a dinosaur there are more than 60 genders don’t you know.

[badgerx16]

51 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Such a dinosaur there are more than 60 genders don’t you know.

We are all unique.

Edited 3 February, 2024 by badgerx16

[pingpong]

I wonder of any of the people who moan about a hundred genders etc have actually ever looked up a list? 

The daily mail etc only get to their mocking numbers by being nitpicky.  For example, here are a few, which count as 10 genders according to the antiwoke, but are basically just different nuances of the same thing:

Trans-man

Transgender man

Transgender male

Assigned female at birth (afab)

Female to male (f2m)

Masculine presenting

Trans masculine

Transsexual man

Transsexual male

Transgender person

So there may be many descriptions, but they all basically fall into the following 4 categories:

male, female, transgender,  gender non-conforming

and those who worry about the alphabet mafia, most of the population just uses lgbt+ nowadays. Live and let live...

[Weston Super Saint]

4 minutes ago, pingpong said:

I wonder of any of the people who moan about a hundred genders etc have actually ever looked up a list? 

The daily mail etc only get to their mocking numbers by being nitpicky.  For example, here are a few, which count as 10 genders according to the antiwoke, but are basically just different nuances of the same thing:

Trans-man

Transgender man

Transgender male

Assigned female at birth (afab)

Female to male (f2m)

Masculine presenting

Trans masculine

Transsexual man

Transsexual male

Transgender person

So there may be many descriptions, but they all basically fall into the following 4 categories:

male, female, transgender,  gender non-conforming

and those who worry about the alphabet mafia, most of the population just uses lgbt+ nowadays. Live and let live...

Surely just 2?

Male and female, like the rest of the animal kingdom?

[badgerx16]

25 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Surely just 2?

Male and female, like the rest of the animal kingdom?

But most snail species are male and female in the same individual.

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

But most snail species are male and female in the same individual.

So just two genders then?

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

So just two genders then?

True, as is also the case with those animal species that can change their gender depending on environmental pressures.

[Turkish]

sigh, so depressing 

[Patrick Bateman]

12 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Surely just 2?

Male and female, like the rest of the animal kingdom?

Exactly. Do you fancy opposite sex, same sex, both. 3 ... LGB club.  This whole pigeon-holing American shit has got to stop.  I don't care who or what, but the fucking letters wind me up no end. LGB, that's all that's needed. Rant over. 

[Fan The Flames]

21 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Surely just 2?

Male and female, like the rest of the animal kingdom?

Do the rest of the animal kingdom drive cars and watch football on smart phones. No, we are different. We are story tellers and myth makers, bending narratives to suit. This, the theory, suggests is why we became the dominant species and the reason why concepts such as gender are being pulled about. It's just what happens.

Someone will come up with a different story at somepoint and things will change again, and no doubt the old guys/girls/guygirls/girlguys of the time will be moaning about how things were better in their day.

Edited 4 February, 2024 by Fan The Flames

[hypochondriac]

How is gender non conforming a new gender? If you're a bloke who wants to wear a dress that's up to you. It doesn't mean you're part of some new gender because you want to do something stereotypically perceived as feminine. 

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said:

Do the rest of the animal kingdom drive cars and watch football on smart phones. No, we are different. We are story tellers and myth makers, bending narratives to suit. This, the theory, suggests is why we became the dominant species and the reason why concepts such as gender are being pulled about. It's just what happens.

Someone will come up with a different story at somepoint and things will change again, and no doubt the old guys/girls/guygirls/girlguys of the time will be moaning about how things were better in their day.

We can also find cures for stuff and so far we’ve drawn a blank with this nonsense 

[Weston Super Saint]

51 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said:

Do the rest of the animal kingdom drive cars and watch football on smart phones. No, we are different. We are story tellers and myth makers, bending narratives to suit. This, the theory, suggests is why we became the dominant species and the reason why concepts such as gender are being pulled about. It's just what happens.

Someone will come up with a different story at somepoint and things will change again, and no doubt the old guys/girls/guygirls/girlguys of the time will be moaning about how things were better in their day.

What has that got to do with the biological fact that there are two genders in the animal kingdom?

[trousers]

 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

27 minutes ago, trousers said:

 

 

Awww, I was thinking it would be more rainbowy. Perhaps an even more colourful one for adverse weather conditions?

[John Boy Saint]

On 24/01/2024 at 20:00, Turkish said:

Did you know a club sandwich is called so because club stands for chicken lettuce under bacon? 

Bringing it back on to the equally divisive sub topic - They do a rather splendid Club Sandwich at the Warwickshire Golf Course, not cheap but an excellent construction to be savoured after playing 18 holes.

..............Right: Carry on

[Turkish]

41 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Bringing it back on to the equally divisive sub topic - They do a rather splendid Club Sandwich at the Warwickshire Golf Course, not cheap but an excellent construction to be savoured after playing 18 holes.

..............Right: Carry on

Eggs in a club sandwich is an unnessary addition IMO. I cannot stand eggs and on a couple of occasions been caught out ordering a club sandwich, which is my go to sandwich, only to find much to my revulsion it contained eggs. i guess this is still on topic as perhaps we need to establish if a male chicken can lay an egg or not.

[John Boy Saint]

31 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Eggs in a club sandwich is an unnessary addition IMO. I cannot stand eggs and on a couple of occasions been caught out ordering a club sandwich, which is my go to sandwich, only to find much to my revulsion it contained eggs. i guess this is still on topic as perhaps we need to establish if a male chicken can lay an egg or not.

You will be safe with theirs - unless your non egg content stretches to the eggs in the Mayonnaise (I did just look it up, I thought pre covid it was an extravagance at £7.95 - Considered purchase now at £12.50!!). 

.........Oh maybe not a male Chicken laying eggs but Mallard Ducks, who also lay eggs, are known to change orientation mid stream making it possible

[badgerx16]

 

[AlexLaw76]

[whelk]

https://news.sky.com/story/humpback-whales-photographed-having-sex-for-first-time-8211-and-both-were-male-13084290

[Turkish]

18 hours ago, whelk said:

https://news.sky.com/story/humpback-whales-photographed-having-sex-for-first-time-8211-and-both-were-male-13084290

Just two whales identifying as gay humans, nothing to see here 

[badgerx16]

Apparently Hadrian's Wall is now an icon of gay history.

[pingpong]

11 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Apparently Hadrian's Wall is now an icon of gay history.

That's because hadrian was publicly queer, and he built a famous wall.  The two aren't linked, the gay history part is all about hadrian. And he built a famous wall.

It's only gb news and the mail that have projected the queer history part on the wall and not on hadrian.

 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 hours ago, pingpong said:

That's because hadrian was publicly queer, and he built a famous wall.  The two aren't linked, the gay history part is all about hadrian. And he built a famous wall.

It's only gb news and the mail that have projected the queer history part on the wall and not on hadrian.

 

 

Hadrian's wall was only the first "I" in "I luv Antinous" that was going to be scrawled over Scotland.

[Turkish]

Every night i check my sons phone messages. Some of the stuff i read is unreal. A girl in his year is currently gay, because she says boys suck. A boy has previously identified as a furry, whatever that is. Another girl who claims to be bisexual accused him of being homophobic because she sent him a youtube video about being gay and he said he wasn't gay. Another boy is currently gay and wants to be gay with another boy in their class but he's not gay so he cant. These are 10/11 year old pre-pubescent kids. If this isn't social conditioning i dont know what is. Make it make sense. 

[hypochondriac]

On 08/03/2024 at 08:58, Turkish said:

Every night i check my sons phone messages. Some of the stuff i read is unreal. A girl in his year is currently gay, because she says boys suck. A boy has previously identified as a furry, whatever that is. Another girl who claims to be bisexual accused him of being homophobic because she sent him a youtube video about being gay and he said he wasn't gay. Another boy is currently gay and wants to be gay with another boy in their class but he's not gay so he cant. These are 10/11 year old pre-pubescent kids. If this isn't social conditioning i dont know what is. Make it make sense. 

Time to get a change of schools I'd think. I taught in a Catholic school and in my experience they've managed to avoid most of that so far. 

[badgerx16]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Time to get a change of schools I'd think. I taught in a Catholic school and in my experience they've managed to avoid most of that so far. 

Probably because of her

[sadoldgit]

On 08/03/2024 at 08:58, Turkish said:

Every night i check my sons phone messages. Some of the stuff i read is unreal. A girl in his year is currently gay, because she says boys suck. A boy has previously identified as a furry, whatever that is. Another girl who claims to be bisexual accused him of being homophobic because she sent him a youtube video about being gay and he said he wasn't gay. Another boy is currently gay and wants to be gay with another boy in their class but he's not gay so he cant. These are 10/11 year old pre-pubescent kids. If this isn't social conditioning i dont know what is. Make it make sense. 

Does he read your posts on social media? 

[The Kraken]

11 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Does he read your posts on social media? 

You clearly do. 

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

You clearly do. 

Except sometimes when he claims to have him on ignore...

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Except sometimes when he claims to have him on ignore...

Oh he very much reads them in those circumstances. 

[Turkish]

15 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Does he read your posts on social media? 

Not as much as you do 

[Turkish]

3 hours ago, The Kraken said:

You clearly do. 

Looks like the serial bullshitter had let his guard slip again.
 

imagine being a pensioner and spending your life pretending you’ve got people on ignore on a football mongboard 🤣🤣🤣

[Turkish]

19 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Time to get a change of schools I'd think. I taught in a Catholic school and in my experience they've managed to avoid most of that so far. 

Seems like most are like it. We were looking round high schools a few months ago all of them had LGBT groups and safe spaces etc 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Seems like most are like it. We were looking round high schools a few months ago all of them had LGBT groups and safe spaces etc 

If there's nowhere suitable the best you can do is to educate your children and hope they aren't too adversely influenced by it. 

[badgerx16]

Caitlyn Jenner says that trans women are not women.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

6 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Caitlyn Jenner says that trans women are not women.

From April 1st, people expressing any number of views on this in Scotland will have opponents waiting to file hate crime reports.

Investigations are not going to be back dated to the date of it passing, only from the date of enforcement. Police have said they will investigate every one of them, even as they are unable to investigate other crimes as it is.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-scotland-say-trans-activists-32355651

Fortunately, we live in a reasonable world where common sense prevails. Oh....

[Weston Super Saint]

6 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

From April 1st, people expressing any number of views on this in Scotland will have opponents waiting to file hate crime reports.

Investigations are not going to be back dated to the date of it passing, only from the date of enforcement. Police have said they will investigate every one of them, even as they are unable to investigate other crimes as it is.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-scotland-say-trans-activists-32355651

Fortunately, we live in a reasonable world where common sense prevails. Oh....

What a horrendous website!

Couldn't read the full article so not sure if the offence has to have happened whilst the perpetrator is in Scotland (would be difficult to prove on social media), or whether the complaint being made in Scotland is enough to trigger an investigation no matter where the perpetrator commited the "crime"???

[Holmes_and_Watson]

12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

What a horrendous website!

Couldn't read the full article so not sure if the offence has to have happened whilst the perpetrator is in Scotland (would be difficult to prove on social media), or whether the complaint being made in Scotland is enough to trigger an investigation no matter where the perpetrator commited the "crime"???

I can read it on this device. Not that you're missing much, by not seeing the rest. The Scottish Express pretty much likes to get its focused hatred of the SNP out in the first couple of paragraphs. Not that it's inaccurate, just a little pathological about it.

Here's the Beeb's take on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68570614

Just after the odd opening paragraph about the cartoon character fronting the campaign (Not Yousaf. A different cartoon character).

In passing, the Beeb have changed the pic on the article since yesterday. It originally showed some rather angry trans activists. Now it's a default rainbow themed pic. No doubt complaints were received there, resulting in the change.