Turkish Posted April 4 Author Posted April 4 On 04/04/2025 at 16:05, Weston Super Saint said: What is demisexual? Does it mean half sexual - maybe slip it in half way and you're done? Expand a fetish for demijohns? Guess you could use them in a couple of ways depending on how you identify that day.
sadoldgit Posted April 8 Posted April 8 So Lead Belly was the starting point for the term “woke”. You learn something new every day. https://the-past.com/comment/on-the-origins-of-woke/ 1
Weston Super Saint Posted Sunday at 06:24 Posted Sunday at 06:24 I received an email from my gym this week - Puregym - stating that they will be creating a new 'state of the art Women's workout space'. Unfortunately they forgot to give any definition of what a 'woman' is, so this may become the emptiest space ever seen in a gym.
Sarnia Cherie Posted Sunday at 07:56 Posted Sunday at 07:56 On 25/03/2025 at 09:58, whelk said: I genuinely was confused the other day when someone was talking about a member of staff and kept referring to them as ‘they’. I had to stop them to ask who else were they talking about and was told it was just the one person I thought, but her pronouns are ‘they/them’ Expand To a 77 year old like me the world has gone bloody mad. I have to ask my children and grandchildren what are the right words these days before I say something that offends. Too many people are so touchy over the slightest thing. My 16 year old grandson told me he had met a girl he liked. He said she was the first one who wasn't either gay or non-binary. I had to ask my daughter what non-binary meant. Wish I hadn't asked. 1
egg Posted Sunday at 08:23 Posted Sunday at 08:23 On 13/04/2025 at 06:24, Weston Super Saint said: I received an email from my gym this week - Puregym - stating that they will be creating a new 'state of the art Women's workout space'. Unfortunately they forgot to give any definition of what a 'woman' is, so this may become the emptiest space ever seen in a gym. Expand No state of the art men's workout space?
badgerx16 Posted Sunday at 08:54 Posted Sunday at 08:54 On 13/04/2025 at 08:23, egg said: No state of the art men's workout space? Expand What does a "state of the art" man look like ? 2
Lighthouse Posted Sunday at 09:23 Posted Sunday at 09:23 I was at a motorway services not too long ago and they had an ‘inclusive restroom’ which included the transgender ⚧️ , wheelchair and baby change symbols and was also written underneath in braille. I had to chuckle at the idea of its creator, who thinks they’re being tolerant and inclusive, but is actually just saying that trans, disabled, blind and babies who’ve shat themselves all get grouped together under ‘miscellaneous people’ in a special toilet. 1 1
Weston Super Saint Posted Sunday at 10:19 Posted Sunday at 10:19 On 13/04/2025 at 08:23, egg said: No state of the art men's workout space? Expand Apprently not. There's a threat of some new equipment, but that may all be going in the new Women's area?
rallyboy Posted Sunday at 10:28 Posted Sunday at 10:28 New equipment in the women's area?... The operation must have a more medical name than that.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Sunday at 10:49 Posted Sunday at 10:49 On 13/04/2025 at 08:54, badgerx16 said: What does a "state of the art" man look like ? Expand Using Picasso as the art in state of the art, means they can cover up horrific gym related injuries. 1
whelk Posted Sunday at 10:54 Posted Sunday at 10:54 On 13/04/2025 at 10:19, Weston Super Saint said: Apprently not. There's a threat of some new equipment, but that may all be going in the new Women's area? Expand Disappointingly my gym now has the equipment that requires women to open their legs now faces the wall. I remember years ago at Cricket Ground in Northlands Road where it good make some great viewing if the right fit women were in there. All discreetly glanced at of course, I mean I’m not a perve! 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 10:39 Posted Wednesday at 10:39 Some common sense from the UK at last. Trans women are men-a factually coherent sentence now thankfully backed up in law. Huge for women's protection. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted Wednesday at 10:40 Posted Wednesday at 10:40 Remarkable how weird society is when this ruling is headline news, rather than just common sense 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 10:46 Posted Wednesday at 10:46 On 16/04/2025 at 10:40, AlexLaw76 said: Remarkable how weird society is when this ruling is headline news, rather than just common sense Expand Absolutely insane but certain people in society went a bit crazy over this stuff over the last decade or so. Very curious for people who lived most of their life prior to this stuff. Thankfully looks like it's all shifting back again and the history books can just look at this with bemused curiosity.
AlexLaw76 Posted Wednesday at 10:57 Posted Wednesday at 10:57 Are we now allowed to to say that this is not a woman?
Turkish Posted Wednesday at 11:17 Author Posted Wednesday at 11:17 On 16/04/2025 at 10:57, AlexLaw76 said: Are we now allowed to to say that this is not a woman? Expand What do they say they are?
badgerx16 Posted Wednesday at 11:24 Posted Wednesday at 11:24 On 16/04/2025 at 11:17, Turkish said: What do they say they are? Expand The only people who should be allowed to use "they" as their personal pronoun are schizophrenics. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Wednesday at 11:32 Posted Wednesday at 11:32 On 16/04/2025 at 11:24, badgerx16 said: The only people who should be allowed to use "they" as their personal pronoun are schizophrenics. Expand We agree. Holmes & Watson 2
tdmickey3 Posted Wednesday at 11:39 Posted Wednesday at 11:39 On 16/04/2025 at 10:57, AlexLaw76 said: Are we now allowed to to say that this is not a woman? Expand What is it?
Raging Bull Posted Wednesday at 11:45 Posted Wednesday at 11:45 On 16/04/2025 at 11:39, tdmickey3 said: What is it? Expand Pretty sure that’s MLG 3
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 12:05 Posted Wednesday at 12:05 On 16/04/2025 at 10:39, hypochondriac said: Some common sense from the UK at last. Trans women are men-a factually coherent sentence now thankfully backed up in law. Huge for women's protection. Expand At least you will be able to sleep at night now. 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 12:09 Posted Wednesday at 12:09 On 16/04/2025 at 12:05, aintforever said: At least you will be able to sleep at night now. Expand Still a lot to do but this is a big step in the right direction. Women's single sex spaces will now truly mean biological female as it always has done. Obviously I'm very pleased for society in general but also for the brave campaigners who fought against the odds to make this happen. Also for my female relatives and others I'm close to who should no longer have to endure this ridiculousness. 1
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 12:20 Posted Wednesday at 12:20 On 16/04/2025 at 12:09, hypochondriac said: Still a lot to do but this is a big step in the right direction. Women's single sex spaces will now truly mean biological female as it always has done. Obviously I'm very pleased for society in general but also for the brave campaigners who fought against the odds to make this happen. Also for my female relatives and others I'm close to who should no longer have to endure this ridiculousness. Expand What happened to your relative? 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 12:27 Posted Wednesday at 12:27 On 16/04/2025 at 12:20, aintforever said: What happened to your relative? Expand Many women in the UK have been forced against their will to share spaces with potentially AGP men living out their perversions in changing rooms, rape crisis centres, taken female quotas on boards and spaces meant for women in elections. There's plenty of examples of this including most recently NHS Fife which has got themselves in all sorts of trouble for pressuring a nurse to get changed in front of a bloke. The vast majority of people will now be happier that the law has been clarified and it is unambiguous that these sort of men are not allowed in these spaces reserved for women, will no longer be depriving women of opportunities on all women shortlist etc etc. That should be a cause for celebration for all women and especially the women you have close personal relationships with or who are family members. Men out of female prisons, changing rooms and all other spaces that are women only. Wonderful. 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 12:45 Posted Wednesday at 12:45 On 16/04/2025 at 11:39, tdmickey3 said: What is it? Expand A mentally unwell autogynephilic man in a dress. 1
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 12:46 Posted Wednesday at 12:46 On 16/04/2025 at 12:27, hypochondriac said: Many women in the UK have been forced against their will to share spaces with potentially AGP men living out their perversions in changing rooms, rape crisis centres, taken female quotas on boards and spaces meant for women in elections. There's plenty of examples of this including most recently NHS Fife which has got themselves in all sorts of trouble for pressuring a nurse to get changed in front of a bloke. The vast majority of people will now be happier that the law has been clarified and it is unambiguous that these sort of men are not allowed in these spaces reserved for women, will no longer be depriving women of opportunities on all women shortlist etc etc. That should be a cause for celebration for all women and especially the women you have close personal relationships with or who are family members. Men out of female prisons, changing rooms and all other spaces that are women only. Wonderful. Expand So nothing actually happened to you relative then, that's good to hear.
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 12:55 Posted Wednesday at 12:55 On 16/04/2025 at 12:46, aintforever said: So nothing actually happened to you relative then, that's good to hear. Expand You can't use the ladies loos even if you really want to. Sorry for your loss. 1
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 13:05 Posted Wednesday at 13:05 On 16/04/2025 at 12:55, hypochondriac said: You can't use the ladies loos even if you really want to. Sorry for your loss. Expand I'm just glad you can sleep at night now. I'm sure you are genuinely happy for women and not just a transphobic twat. 1
badgerx16 Posted Wednesday at 13:09 Posted Wednesday at 13:09 (edited) On 16/04/2025 at 12:45, hypochondriac said: A mentally unwell autogynephilic man in a dress. Expand Or as JK Rowling put it ; "...cosplaying a misogynistic male fantasy of what a woman is". India Willoughby responded with "I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be", which is a biological impossibility. However, having fathered a son, India is certainly more of a man. Edited Wednesday at 13:19 by badgerx16 3
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 13:25 Posted Wednesday at 13:25 On 16/04/2025 at 13:05, aintforever said: I'm just glad you can sleep at night now. I'm sure you are genuinely happy for women and not just a transphobic twat. Expand Transphobic lol. This must have really hit you hard given how you're resorting to such abusive language. You didn't trans your kid did you? Just be thankful for the women who will no longer have their privacy, dignity and freedom of association taken away. They are the ones who matter, not you and your little tantrum. 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Posted Wednesday at 13:26 On 16/04/2025 at 13:09, badgerx16 said: Or as JK Rowling put it ; "...cosplaying a misogynistic male fantasy of what a woman is". India Willoughby responded with "I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be", which is a biological impossibility. However, having fathered a son, India is certainly more of a man. Expand Amen to that. Apparently his son doesn't talk to him anymore which is entirely unsurprising.
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 13:32 Posted Wednesday at 13:32 On 16/04/2025 at 13:25, hypochondriac said: Transphobic lol. This must have really hit you hard given how you're resorting to such abusive language. You didn't trans your kid did you? Just be thankful for the women who will no longer have their privacy, dignity and freedom of association taken away. They are the ones who matter, not you and your little tantrum. Expand I will always use abusive language to people like you. I don't disagree with the verdict just recognise that it's a complex matter and Trans people's rights are just as important as anyone else's. I get the issues but also know transphobia when I see it.
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 13:39 Posted Wednesday at 13:39 (edited) On 16/04/2025 at 13:32, aintforever said: I will always use abusive language to people like you. I don't disagree with the verdict just recognise that it's a complex matter and Trans people's rights are just as important as anyone else's. I get the issues but also know transphobia when I see it. Expand It's not complex at all as the high court has now made clear. Sex is binary and you can't change it, I'm glad you agree. Transphobia is a nonsense made up word. Men who want to put on a dress and call themselves women because it makes them more comfortable should be allowed to do so free from fear, discrimination or harassment. Many choose to do that which is their right. They should be afforded the same rights as everyone else in society and of course their rights are just as important as everyone else's we are lucky to live in a society that largely respects that. Shame on you for getting all emotional about this judgement and allowing yourself to start getting abusive and nonsensical. Edited Wednesday at 13:41 by hypochondriac 1
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 13:55 Posted Wednesday at 13:55 (edited) On 16/04/2025 at 13:39, hypochondriac said: It's not complex at all as the high court has now made clear. Sex is binary and you can't change it, I'm glad you agree. Transphobia is a nonsense made up word. Men who want to put on a dress and call themselves women because it makes them more comfortable should be allowed to do so free from fear, discrimination or harassment. Many choose to do that which is their right. They should be afforded the same rights as everyone else in society and of course their rights are just as important as everyone else's we are lucky to live in a society that largely respects that. Shame on you for getting all emotional about this judgement and allowing yourself to start getting abusive and nonsensical. Expand You clearly have a problem reading, I don't disagree with the judgement and am happy if it solves any problems women have been having. I'm also happy to call out transphobia when I see it, an it is obvious from certain people. Those that are all of a sudden really concerned about the welfare of criminals in prison when usually they are the first to say 'let them rot and throw away the key'. It reminds me of when those Millwall fans claimed they were booing taking the knee because someone from BLM in the US wanted to defund the police, Millwall hoolies, not racists, just all of a sudden concerned about levels of police funding. Edited Wednesday at 14:15 by aintforever
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 14:20 Posted Wednesday at 14:20 On 16/04/2025 at 13:55, aintforever said: You clearly have a problem reading, I don't disagree with the judgement and am happy if it solves any problems women have been having. I'm also happy to call out transphobia when I see it, an it is obvious from certain people. Those that are all of a sudden really concerned about the welfare of criminals in prison when usually they are the first to say 'let them rot and throw away the key'. It reminds me of when those Millwall fans claimed they were booing taking the knee because someone from BLM in the US wanted to defund the police, Millwall hoolies, not racists, just all of a sudden concerned about levels of police funding. Expand I've literally never said that in my life. The only thing I ever said is that I could potentially support the death penalty for cases like Southport. Overall I believe that prison should include a measure of rehabilitation and particularly female prisons that are generally very different from male ones. So I'm not the caricature you've made up in your head at all. Out of interest, what is transphobic in your mind?
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 14:46 Posted Wednesday at 14:46 On 16/04/2025 at 14:40, AlexLaw76 said: Aintforver is a bit prickly here Expand As I said. Must have some personal experience of it all.
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 15:00 Posted Wednesday at 15:00 On 16/04/2025 at 14:46, hypochondriac said: As I said. Must have some personal experience of it all. Expand Well I used to work with a trans woman if that counts, helped me understand the issues they face.
skintsaint Posted Wednesday at 15:00 Posted Wednesday at 15:00 Does this mean the end to all these men competing in women's sports nonsense then?
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 15:01 Posted Wednesday at 15:01 On 16/04/2025 at 15:00, aintforever said: Well I used to work with a trans woman if that counts, helped me understand the issues they face. Expand What issues in particular?
badgerx16 Posted Wednesday at 15:16 Posted Wednesday at 15:16 On 16/04/2025 at 15:00, skintsaint said: Does this mean the end to all these men competing in women's sports nonsense then? Expand It will help the relevant governing bodies come to a position they are comfortable with.
Holmes_and_Watson Posted Wednesday at 15:24 Posted Wednesday at 15:24 On 16/04/2025 at 14:40, AlexLaw76 said: Aintforver is a bit prickly here Expand A bit prickly? Surely today's finding clarified you are either prickly or non-prickly, and which space to use. 🙂 1
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 15:24 Posted Wednesday at 15:24 On 16/04/2025 at 15:16, badgerx16 said: It will help the relevant governing bodies come to a position they are comfortable with. Expand Basically they can exclude men for employment reasons without being worried about getting sued or anything like that.
whelk Posted Wednesday at 15:30 Posted Wednesday at 15:30 Saying common sense prevails isn’t the same as having a phobia. Some of the most ‘liberal’ seem to delight in putting people in ‘phobic’ boxes. One could almost say bigoted 1
Lighthouse Posted Wednesday at 15:46 Posted Wednesday at 15:46 On 16/04/2025 at 15:30, whelk said: Saying common sense prevails isn’t the same as having a phobia. Some of the most ‘liberal’ seem to delight in putting people in ‘phobic’ boxes. One could almost say bigoted Expand In order to call someone ‘transphobic’ you have to first be able to define being ‘transgender’. In order to be ‘transgender’ you first have to be able to define ‘gender’. Since nobody seems able to do that the whole thing is one great big word salad anyway. 2
hypochondriac Posted Wednesday at 16:08 Posted Wednesday at 16:08 On 16/04/2025 at 15:30, whelk said: Saying common sense prevails isn’t the same as having a phobia. Some of the most ‘liberal’ seem to delight in putting people in ‘phobic’ boxes. One could almost say bigoted Expand Indeed. "I know transphobia when I see it" but has zero examples. Rather like when someone throws it at JK Rowling and when you ask for examples it amounts to her calling a man 'he'.
egg Posted Wednesday at 16:47 Posted Wednesday at 16:47 Why are adult males so excited by this? We've got clarity, which was needed in law, but it not sure why people are rejoicing about something which makes no difference whatsoever to them. 1 1
aintforever Posted Wednesday at 16:48 Posted Wednesday at 16:48 On 16/04/2025 at 15:01, hypochondriac said: What issues in particular? Expand Transphobic abuse and attacks.
egg Posted Wednesday at 16:48 Posted Wednesday at 16:48 On 16/04/2025 at 15:24, Holmes_and_Watson said: A bit prickly? Surely today's finding clarified you are either prickly or non-prickly, and which space to use. 🙂 Expand Is transprickly a thing? Good word though.
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