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Just now, S-Clarke said:

You could argue that this team is the worst team in our history. Might sound quite a brash statement to make, but this lot have lost 9-0 twice and have just lost 6 games in a row - the most this club has ever lost in a row in any league.

We are mentally weak, fragile and lack any sort of leadership. When the chips are down we wilt, every single team. That won't change without significant changes in the playing squad, which is something we can't do as we have an owner who doesn't support us.

Long and short of it, we are fucked. No idea where we are heading.

Careful Trousers will tell you it’s the refs fault 

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Abysmal second half. Blame the officials, I don't, I blame our players. Sloppy in midfield, terrible defensively, and those final five minutes were a disgrace, every other team puts pressure on, we faff about with it.

 

Not good enough, as good as we were for some parts, there are still major issues with our game and Ralph needs to fix them, quickly.

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1 minute ago, Mr X said:

I think as a fanbase we have been patient, two nine Nils, six losses in a row, leads thrown away repeatedly, nearly always poor the second half of games, where does the goodwill end? 

If fans were in the grounds it wouldn't seem like we'd been patient. There would be horrendous boos after this game and others.

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Ralph is at fault for decisions in this game. McCarthy shouldn't be near the team and at fault yet again for a goal. Should never be beaten by Neto from there. The substitutions are bewildering. Armstrong ran the first half, what is his fascination with Redmond. Sick of capitualing as soon as something goes against us.

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Just now, Saint_Jonny said:

Are we allowed to start talking about making a managerial change yet or are going to keep our collective heads in the sand?

I think we need to start talking about a big change up in the squad and afford Ralph some flexibility in the market. I don't think he's the issue to be honest, sure he has flaws and we are very 'Plan A' - but the makeup of the players he he's having to make do with is all wrong IMO.

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1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said:

Abysmal second half. Blame the officials, I don't, I blame our players. Sloppy in midfield, terrible defensively, and those final five minutes were a disgrace, every other team puts pressure on, we faff about with it.

 

Not good enough, as good as we were for some parts, there are still major issues with our game and Ralph needs to fix them, quickly.

We are very one paced.  That "one pace" is quite good but if the opposition react or are better than us we have no way of adjusting.  

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Just now, Saint_Jonny said:

Are we allowed to start talking about making a managerial change yet or are going to keep our collective heads in the sand?

Now would be the best time to do it. We are basically safe and any new man would have time to work on the team.

However I can't think of anyone who could come in instead. Or whom we could afford. So we're stuck with Ralph.

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Just now, trousers said:

So, you rule out a different result if the Wolves penalty isn't given? #mysticmeg

Even so, it's 1-1, there's plenty of time for us to get back into it. But they put pressure on us at the start of the second half (and we should have expected it) and we crumbled. Can't blame the officials for not being able to pass.

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Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Not many who would get 29 points out of that side.

Don’t be ridiculous.

What's ridiculous? We've never lost 6 games in a row in our history, he's overseen two record defeats and clearly has no plan at all for when the game doesn't go for us. It's absolutely awful to watch and we're in free fall. 

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9 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yes but that’s not the point. He wasn’t beaten inside his near post and I don’t think anybody said he was. He was beaten at his near post.

You’re so obsessed with digging out McCarthy you’re trying to rewrite football jargon. He wasn’t beaten at his near post. 
 

The goal was a combination of 2 mistakes from Bednarek & 1 from Vesty. I guess because Stephens isn’t playing McCarthy gets blamed for goals. It’s pathetic. 

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I've given up counting the number of points dropped from winning positions. Is there something wrong in the players' heads?

 

And yet again I have to say Saints failed to apply any sort of pressure after going behind. Wolves finished that game very comfortably. I think it's safe to say that opposing teams know exactly how to handle Ralph's tactics now.

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Just now, Saint_Jonny said:

Are we allowed to start talking about making a managerial change yet or are going to keep our collective heads in the sand?

What do you think a different manager would have done differently?

We’re on a run of relatively poor results, but I don’t put that down to our tactics particularly. We’re obviously low on confidence, and the officiating has been among the worst I can remember watching, but I’m still enjoying the way we play.

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Whitey Grandad

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2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You’re so obsessed with digging out McCarthy you’re trying to rewrite football jargon. He wasn’t beaten at his near post. 
 

The goal was a combination of 2 mistakes from Bednarek & 1 from Vesty. I guess because Stephens isn’t playing McCarthy gets blamed for goals. It’s pathetic. 

For Gawd’s sake. He was at his near post for a shot close to his near post. 
 

That was a near post goal. Always has been and always will be.

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Some of you wrist slitters should just give up supporting Saints and go and support P*mpey. All it takes is one Skate in our midst to criticise Hassenhuttl and you are jumping in bed with them and joining in.

LET'S BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR: at a time of poor investment in the club, following on from a period of bad investment and mismanagement of transfer policy, Ralph Hassenhuttl has steadied the ship and got us playing decent football. If he leaves, we are stuffed!

I would far rather the wrist slitters take their fishiness down the road and let real Saints supporters get behind the club. To put it simply: if you don't like it, get lost!

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2 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

Now would be the best time to do it. We are basically safe and any new man would have time to work on the team.

However I can't think of anyone who could come in instead. Or whom we could afford. So we're stuck with Ralph.

I think saying ‘stuck with Ralph’ is incredibly harsh. 
He is clearly a quality manager who is hamstrung by a squad that needs refreshing. 
Who on earth would come in, do a better job or get us playing anywhere near as well? I have no interest in Saints going down the replace for safety route again.

That said, we cannot keep bemoaning VAR decisions when we haven’t been good enough to win.

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This losing leads every week thing is so deflating. The inconsistent officiating that seems to always go in the oppositions favour. The 9-0 defeats that we'll now be reminded of for the rest of time. The record for most league losses in a row. Our favourite players always leaving. It's enough to make you start to question whether its really worth it.

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3 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Even so, it's 1-1, there's plenty of time for us to get back into it. But they put pressure on us at the start of the second half (and we should have expected it) and we crumbled. Can't blame the officials for not being able to pass.

Sounds like we'll have to agree to disagree. Just different opinions. No worries.

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2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

You don't lose 6 games on the bounce and have two 9-0's over two seasons because of bad luck. You do that because you have a bad team. Let's not focus on the 'decisions'. It's gone beyond that.

We are 1-0 up against a team who has barely done much all game after what 60 mins? And then they get a pen for the ball hitting our defender from like 2-3 yards away with his arm tucked against his body and they get a goal back giving them renewed confidence, meanwhile their defender sticks out a blatant arm in the box and we get nothing. 

We are vastly the better team against Villa, more chances, more shots, more possession, we have a stonewall pen where the defender saves the ball like he is a gk and we get no pen, they score from basically the only thing they did all game, and then an equalising goal is ruled off side because of cms after they take the frame AFTER the ball is played, robbing the team again. 

The 9-0, an injury ravaged team with teenagers playing, that then loses a player after 2 minutes, gets battered with bad decision after bad decision, resulting in another record loss.

The team is in not great form and confidence, but a large part of that reason is we have consistently over those games been screwed over by referees, destroying the players confidence further. 

These decisions are so terrible that they cannot be ignored imo.  

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Whitey Grandad

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Just now, SaintZamboni said:

I think saying ‘stuck with Ralph’ is incredibly harsh. 
He is clearly a quality manager who is hamstrung by a squad that needs refreshing. 
Who on earth would come in, do a better job or get us playing anywhere near as well? I have no interest in Saints going down the replace for safety route again.

That said, we cannot keep bemoaning VAR decisions when we haven’t been good enough to win.

To be fair, this wasn’t a case of VAR going against us. It was a referee making two inconsistent decisions.

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First half good

Second half fkin abysmal

Strange subs.....how the fuck Redmond stays on, he was ok ish first half, second half I forgot he was playing.

Forster back in goal please and I never thought I would say that.

Subs totally ineffective 

Another record, 6 straight defeats, will be 7 next weekend....

Not good.

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