nta786 Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Forster KWP Bednarek Vestegaard Bertrand Armstrong JWP Romeu Djenepo Ings Adams Time to draw a line under that and move on. If Armstrong and KWP are fit- get them straight in. I think Minamino is cup-tied, which is very annoying as he would have been handy. See the last 5 meetings against Wolves below: 23.11.20 PL Wolves Southampton 1 : 1 18.01.20 PL Southampton Wolves 2 : 3 19.10.19 PL Wolves Southampton 1 : 1 13.04.19 PL Southampton Wolves 3 : 1 29.09.18 PL Wolves Southampton 2 : 0 Wolves themselves before their midweek game against Arsenal (and at time of writing now) hadn't won in 8 PL games. Two off-form teams then to some extent but for me the season is in danger of petering out if we don't go through to the next round, and this is a tough ask away at Molineux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Like Newcastle they should be ripe for the taking as their form hasn’t been great. Whether we turn up though is a completely different matter. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 (edited) Forster, KWP, Salisu, Vestergaard, Bertrand, Romeu, JWP, Djenepo, Armstrong, Adams, Ings. Subs: McCarthy, Stephens, Bednarek, Finnigan, Chauke, Watts, Redmond, Tella, N'Lundulu. Edited 6 February, 2021 by Harry_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 If we don't see Salisu in this game then I think it's fair to assume he doesn't actually exist. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Really want to win this, FA Cup our best (and indeed only) chance of getting Europe next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Time to change the formation as it simply isn't working at the moment. FF deserves a run of games, I'd change other things too. Give people like Watts and N'Lundulu some game time ahead of the under performing first teamers like Adams and Redmond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Before the current very bad run I really thought we might be in with a shout of winning the FA Cup. Sadly, that optimism has melted away as we have disintegrated. Injuries and officials have not been kind to us but we just seem to have lost that spark and verve. Now, we play a very conservative game and prefer to continually pass back and recycle the ball for no apparent reason. Forget the 9-0 and today's debacle and get back to taking risks instead of the boring, tedious rubbish we have resorted to. I always admired Ralph for the fact that he would rather go for wins than try to eke out draws. Why are we having to watch this joyless football now? Be braver and go for wins. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Whilst it’s lovely to think that we should give others a chance due to some terrible performances, the reality is an off form Adams or even Redmond is better than anything we have at youth level. This is a free hit, chance to be the last 8 in a winnable cup and we should play our very best team and hope they play their way back to form, This is also no time to put Salisu in - he needs at least one B game - we should be able to play the team that gave us so much success in the 1st half of the season finally - remember that back 4 with Rom and JWP in front and how solid they looked ? The one exception is Forster, he’s played well in the other cup games and deserves not only to play this, but after McC shaky performances of late a chance to show he can be no 1. Win this and confidence returns - we’ll then see better league form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hodgey said: Win this and confidence returns - we’ll then see better league form. The Shrewsbury and Arsenal FA Cup wins seemingly didn't help league form much. 🤔 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 55 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: Really want to win this, FA Cup our best (and indeed only) chance of getting Europe next season. As much as I'd like to win the cup there's no way our threadbare squad could cope with a European campaign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 10 minutes ago, Trout-Tickler said: As much as I'd like to win the cup there's no way our threadbare squad could cope with a European campaign! That isn't a good enough reason not to want to win a cup. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: If we don't see Salisu in this game then I think it's fair to assume he doesn't actually exist. I cant see him playing in our most important remaining fixture. Though now we're probably out of the title race I dont see why we wouldnt chance him in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Perfect time to try salisu and vestergaard. Should on paper compliment each other. Need something fresh upfront as Adams and Ings just not doing it currently but absolute f all other options really. Hopefully Armstrong back. Moussa in for Redmond although him and Bertrand not good together. Armstrong on the left maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 (edited) Salisu surely has to play if he is fit, Bednarek needs a rest. Also thought JWP and Bertrand looked tired today but there isnt anyone to cover for either of them. Even if Armstrong is fit I would leave him for the league game. But if he has a muscle injury he will probably miss both. Could we even see the return of the back 3/5 that Ralph went to at HT today? Edited 6 February, 2021 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 Would be madness to change formation and go to three at the back based on recent results. The 4222 worked great for us in 2020. It isnt the problem, its players making silly mistakes is the problem. We need to persist with it, but obviously change some personnel. Would like to finally see Salisu. Wouldnt want to risk rushing KWP back, we are paper thin at RB and need him for the remaining league games. McCarthy, Bednarek, Stephens and Redmond can all do one after today's shambles. Takumi cup tied. What has happened to Obafemi? Ings and Adams have been poor recently, but we've nobody to replace them beyond big Dan. Forster Ramsey Salisu Vestergaard Bert Djenepo JWP Romeu Tella Ings Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 14 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: Really want to win this, FA Cup our best (and indeed only) chance of getting Europe next season. What possible good would a Europa League campaign do our very thin squad? If we win the FA Cup I'm sure I, like most, couldn't give a toss about qualifying for Europe, it will be only the second thing we've ever won and we'll all be in beer comas for months. Wolves need to get back into form so who better to help them out than Saints? We seem to love putting an end to opposing team's dodgy runs and records. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 No doubt there's a Wolves forum where their fans are saying "Saints are in a terrible run of form, who better to help them out than Wolves?" Salisu will start and have a stormer which will prove all the experts wrong. Ings will remember how to score and we'll comfortably win the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Will be a better performance than of late but will go out on penalties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 I have really high hopes for Salisu, but not to the point where I think he should make his debut in what is now our most important fixture of the season (both because it's the cup and because we need to reset ourselves). Would like to see him in the league a few days later though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 I think Salisu needs to play in this game. He'll possibly have come up against Willian Jose before in La Liga before. It's a free hit, if we win great, if not, is anyone seriously expecting us to win the cup anyway? In my view ideal opportunity to give him a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Would like to see Jankewitz involved in this match. Build his confidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 We should be putting out as strong a team as we can and be trying to progress in the competition. The league season is going to peter away to nothing but we are not going down so the cup is what we have left. Wolves not easy but they are having as drab a time as we are. I'd be fine with some changes from yesterday of course: Forster in goal no problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC-TID! Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Would like to see - Forster Berty, Salisu, Vesty, KWP Djenepo, Romeu, JWP, Armstrong Adams, Ings Got to give it go, nothing to lose, give Salisu a go, more minutes for Rom and Vesty. Just want to see some urgency and positivity!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SFC-TID! said: Would like to see - Forster Berty, Salisu, Vesty, KWP Djenepo, Romeu, JWP, Armstrong Adams, Ings Got to give it go, nothing to lose, give Salisu a go, more minutes for Rom and Vesty. Just want to see some urgency and positivity!! I’d rather our FBs played in their natural positions, swapping them over seems a tad risky. Agree with the rest though. Edited 7 February, 2021 by Dorchester Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 absolutely have to go for this now, league campaign is over; there will be no top 7 and no relegation. Hopefully KwP is back. Wolves need to get their league season going so would expect a weakened line up from them. Maybe give Ings a rest and bring off of the bench. Wolves 0-1 Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Killers Knee said: Would like to see Jankewitz involved in this match. Build his confidence. Is he eligible for the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Six defeats in a row last achieved in 1988 89 which included one FA Cup defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 19 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If we don't see Salisu in this game then I think it's fair to assume he doesn't actually exist. Oh, so he's just a column in our salary bill then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Killers Knee said: Would like to see Jankewitz involved in this match. Build his confidence. I get the sentiment, but we have no idea if he’s a player. None of his contemporaries have shown any sign of making the grade. I think it’s more important to win this game, or try to, than to take any unnecessary risks. Bench by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Jim Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Forster KWP Salisu Vestergaard Bertrand Romeu JWP Djenepo Armstrong (if fit) Adams Ings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Like to see us play with a bit more urgency and more direct foorball ....more pressing further up the pitch and less meaningless sideways and back to the centre backs... just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 30 minutes ago, Sideways Jim said: Forster KWP Salisu Vestergaard Bertrand Romeu JWP Djenepo Armstrong (if fit) Adams Ings Shame minamino is cup tied ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Like to see us play with a bit more urgency and more direct foorball ....more pressing further up the pitch and less meaningless sideways and back to the centre backs... just my opinion It is not meaningless. We played that way throughout all the good times in 2020. It is done for a good reason, explained in this video... Edited 7 February, 2021 by Matthew Le God 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 21 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: Really want to win this, FA Cup our best (and indeed only) chance of getting Europe next season. Who cares about Europe if we win the FA Cup......People think that’s the prize these days, not actually winning the cup....... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 5 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: Who cares about Europe if we win the FA Cup......People think that’s the prize these days, not actually winning the cup....... Completely agree. Europe is a bonus but the fa and League cup are the only things we've got a hope of winning and I'd love for us to win something meaningful in my lifetime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Despite being in the 'clamouring to see Salisu play' club, I'm in two minds as to whether we should blood him in this game... Now that we've slipped back into our more 'natural' mid-table position in the league, arguably FA Cup games become more important than PL games and, as such, we should play our strongest possible line-up in this game. On that basis, and making a few assumptions on who'll be fit, I reckon we should go with: Forster KWP - Bednarek - Vestergaard - Bertrand JWP - Romeu Armstrong - Djenepo Ings - Adams Bench: McCarthy, Stephens, Salisu, Jankewitz, Redmond, Tella, Chauke, Watts, N'Lundulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 5 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I think Salisu needs to play in this game. He'll possibly have come up against Willian Jose before in La Liga before. It's a free hit, if we win great, if not, is anyone seriously expecting us to win the cup anyway? In my view ideal opportunity to give him a start. This approach saddens me. Remember that great Poch season when we threw the Sunderland 5th round game but not a fan alive who doesn’t remember the amount of merit payment we received for finishing 8th or was it 7th that season? Who gives a shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 48 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: Who cares about Europe if we win the FA Cup......People think that’s the prize these days, not actually winning the cup....... 41 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: Completely agree. Europe is a bonus but the fa and League cup are the only things we've got a hope of winning and I'd love for us to win something meaningful in my lifetime. Exactly. I want to win the cup because I want us to win a cup. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 5 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: I think Salisu needs to play in this game. He'll possibly have come up against Willian Jose before in La Liga before. It's a free hit, if we win great, if not, is anyone seriously expecting us to win the cup anyway? In my view ideal opportunity to give him a start. Why is the cup game "a free hit" but our remaining 16 league games aren't? Our league games from here on in are completely inconsequential. Thursday's match is our only current match with anything riding on it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 (edited) Both us and Wolves are finding it difficult to score . I'm hoping for a 1-0 win. Please, not a drawer. Edited 7 February, 2021 by eelpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 This game is tight as our relative league positions recent records and demonstrate. For both teams it is more or less season over if they lose. The cup gives us our best chance of any success this year. We can afford to drop a few league points. As Ralph himself said "they can't take our 29 points away from us". We have to make this game our priority IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 37 minutes ago, eelpie said: Both us and Wolves are finding it difficult to score . I'm hoping for a 1-0 win. Please, not a drawer. Put a sock in it will you? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 55 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Why is the cup game "a free hit" but our remaining 16 league games aren't? Our league games from here on in are completely inconsequential. Thursday's match is our only current match with anything riding on it at all. We aren't going to win the competition, let's be realistic. We aren't going to make any real money from a cup run and our current squad is too threadbare to maintain a run in a European competition. I would love us to win it, but my priority would be league points as a higher finish would guarantee extra income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We aren't going to win the competition Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We aren't going to win the competition, let's be realistic. We aren't going to make any real money from a cup run and our current squad is too threadbare to maintain a run in a European competition. I would love us to win it, but my priority would be league points as a higher finish would guarantee extra income. To just blindly think we can't win the club so let's fuck it all off just so we can finish, like, tenth is such an utterly depressing mindset. "Extra income". Extra fucking income. Someone book the open top bus. Extra income for what? To have the funds for maybe finishing ninth in the following season (as long as we get knocked out of the cups early enough because we can't win them of course). Fucking depressing way to look at our club. A cup winning side would be heroes for a generation in our city. But, hey, extra income. Gee. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 19 minutes ago, trousers said: Source? Better teams with better squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said: Better teams with better squads. Did Man Utd have a better team & better squad in 1976...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 57 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We aren't going to win the competition, let's be realistic. We aren't going to make any real money from a cup run and our current squad is too threadbare to maintain a run in a European competition. I would love us to win it, but my priority would be league points as a higher finish would guarantee extra income. Sorry Poch, completely disagree. Of course we are capable of winning it, it's knockout competition FFS. If we get past Wolves and get a favourable draw we could be in the semi finals before you know it. The big boys have bigger fish to fry (PL and CL), and (apart from City) are inconsistent. Remember when relegated Wigan beat City in the final? Go for it, play the strongest possible team in the Cup and rest players for league matches if necessary. Even if we lose a couple more league matches 9-0 and finish 17th, but win the cup, I'll be over the moon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Stephens cannot play at full back. Traore and/or Neto would rip him to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Sorry Poch, completely disagree. Of course we are capable of winning it, it's knockout competition FFS. If we get past Wolves and get a favourable draw we could be in the semi finals before you know it. The big boys have bigger fish to fry (PL and CL), and (apart from City) are inconsistent. Remember when relegated Wigan beat City in the final? Go for it, play the strongest possible team in the Cup and rest players for league matches if necessary. Even if we lose a couple more league matches 9-0 and finish 17th, but win the cup, I'll be over the moon. I was about to post exactly the same as this, even another semi final would be a big lift and a landmark moment for the history books. We'd need luck with the draw , but I remember giving up in 2018 when drawn away in the quarter final to "Wigan or Manchester City " , turned out we played league one Wigan was a cracking trip that. Slight chance fans could be back for the final , I'm sure all our season ticket holders could fit into half of Wembley socially distanced. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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