Thedelldays Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Le Tissier is right. Sturrock was out of his depth, he did not have the respect of the Premier players. We needed a manager with pedigree, we could have appointed one, but a very vocal, but minority of fans saw that this did not happen. this is true..and still was a rumour when he returned to plymouth..yet so many think he would have been a success.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oz Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 good riddance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Two more losses will change the perspective again! Think we need to hang tight!! if Wotte wins the next two games, the fans perspective may also change!! If we win the next two, I might start believing in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Le Tissier is right. Sturrock was out of his depth, he did not have the respect of the Premier players. We needed a manager with pedigree, we could have appointed one, but a very vocal, but minority of fans saw that this did not happen. Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. so..are you suggesting that all the fan pressure never paid a part...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. The fans spooked the board. Hoddle was put off by a divided board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I feel sorry for JP. God knows what other stringent rules he was forced to work under given the rumours he was told what players he could and couldn't play. He also probably had no control over who went out and who came in on loan, how was he possibly meant to mould a successful team when almost every week the makeup of the squad changed? He was given an impossible task and has not been sufficiently backed by the cowards who appointed him; he's been made a scapegoat for what is essentially a club rotten to the core. The fact that Lowe has sacked yet another manager is an admission that his Dutch experiment hasn’t worked. Are we meant to believe that whole ‘total football’ concept is sound, it was just that JP wasn’t good enough? Garbage, by sacking JP Lowe has in turn admitted he got it completely wrong as his reputation was directly on the line the day he brought these two Dutch chumps into the club. Relegation is an inevitability. Who know when its your year, you can sense it in the air, in the results, the form, the decisions being made and in the unrest at the club. League 1 and administration beckons, congratulations Mr Lowe, a truly remarkable achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I am pleased that Portvliet is gone but utterly, utterly, DISGUSTED with our club and all it's lies and spin. There can be no doubt that Portvliet was pushed (sacked) and that this configuration just gets Rupert Lowe out of having to admit that he was wrong to appoint him in the first place. As always it is all about our illustrious chairman and not about the good of the club. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Wotte will be any better. He was Portvliet's assistant but clearly had no influence for the betterment of the team. So more of the same is my prediction. This is just the cheap, convenient option and we are worse off today than we were yesterday. And that is saying something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tango Man Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 What strange timing. Not sure whether I'm disappointed, relieved, happy, indifferent or what, to be honest. I am comfortably numb at the decision..the big question is now..who will follow him and be gone by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poshie72 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 was pleased lst night when i heard that JP had gone. Wasnt happy with Wotte but thought that it would be temporary, but woen up this morning to find it is permanent!?? If this is the case then we are back to square one. Lowe really has no idea how to make this club successful. When he gets a good manager in, like WGS, he has to meddle with the team which makes it impossible for the manager to work or he gets a crap manager and turns it into some kind of experiment. We are no further forward than we were when i woke up yesterday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I hadn't been on last night when this news broke, so what a surprise this morning. All I can do is reiterate what most have said. Sorry for Poortvliet who is a decent bloke, but decent blokes don't often seem to earn the respect and gain the best from their players. Anyway, it was plain right from the start that he was totally out of his depth, so all the blame falls on the shoulders of Lowe for indulging his personal whims and proving yet again that he has not the slightest idea how to run the playing side of a football club. As for replacing him with Wotte, why? Has Wotte shone so much under the shadow of JP? Or more likely, is Lowe's character so flawed by an inability to ever admit that he is wrong that he cannot rid us of all of this lower league Dutch dross? Rhetorical question, that; of course he can never admit that he is wrong, we all know that, as he has not one ounce of humility in his body. So Lowe is prepared to repeat the mistakes he made previously and appoint from within yet again, except that Wotte, like JP had nil previous experince of English football, so what's the point? As pointed out already, Lowe's been back less than a year and a further two notches on his bedstead. Is he aiming for notoriety via the Guiness Book of Records? When Wotte is found to be equally useless, there's still time for the hat trick. If Lowe believes that getting shot of Poortvliet will buy him time by placating the fans, then he had better have a rethink if the thoughts of the contributors to this thread are indicative of the general mood of the fans. I believe that the mood against Lowe has hardened considerably, not for sacking JP, but for appointing Wotte instead of a British manager experienced in this division and this situation. The time for the mass boycott is now upon us. We have to get rid of Lowe, Wilde and all the other charlatans whilst we still have a club to save. With that in mind I'd be really interested to hear what the more rabid pro Lowe posters make of that? Making the same mistake not once, not twice but three times now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 The fans spooked the board. Hoddle was put off by a divided board. That being the case, how come this amazing power the fans have hasn't been used to exert more influence on what we want? It appears fans have an influence on some things but when it comes to giving us what we want the board gets remarkably deaf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I remember you stating you would be angry and upset if Pearson wasnt kept on though Nick...its what this club does under Lowe it destroys any chance of building anything and I fail to see why anyone supports him given his history. He is the anti-Midas. Perhaps JP has gone back to his spiritual home and another not Ruperts fault.I dont think so as I was very neutral and still am about him.I might have said he united the fanbase and so wished for him to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 With that in mind I'd be really interested to hear what the more rabid pro Lowe posters make of that? Making the same mistake not once, not twice but three times now? You'll be hard pushed to find any now! Perhaps Alain Perrin will stick up for Wilde - skate username anyway - and Nick H and FC - much as I respect them - will probably sit on the fence although this turmoil might actually tip FC our way. Adrian, Lordswood and others have joined us in wanting true change, welcome aboard lads. Perhaps this is the boiling point where the fans finally unite and we really might be able to get our club back, not the Wilde lies from 2006. It might not ever be the shiny PL club that it was again but if we don't get shot of Wilde, Lowe and Askham and Guy's bum chums ASAP, there probably won't even be an SFC to save in June 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 (edited) You'll be hard pushed to find any now! Perhaps Alain Perrin will stick up for Wilde - skate username anyway - and Nick H and FC - much as I respect them - will probably sit on the fence although this turmoil might actually tip FC our way. Adrian, Lordswood and others have joined us in wanting true change, welcome aboard lads. Perhaps this is the boiling point where the fans finally unite and we really might be able to get our club back, not the Wilde lies from 2006. It might not ever be the shiny PL club that it was again but if we don't get shot of Wilde, Lowe and Askham and Guy's bum chums ASAP, there probably won't even be an SFC to save in June 2009. If you have read my posts post Doncaster I think you will find I am against Lowe staying.I still support the reasons for going for the youth but I DON'T support the managerial appointments and Wotte for the rest of the season apppointment. We need somebody who has already cut their teeth in this league.I was warmed when Norwich appointed gunn thinking 'oh good they have appointed a novice, we can now get someone in to swing things' then this happens. Edited 24 January, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 If you have read my posts post Doncaster I think you will find I am against Lowe staying.I still support the reasons for going for they outh but I DON'T support the managerial appointments and the Wotte for the rest of the seaosn apppointment. We need somebody who has already cut their teeth in this league.I was warmed when Norwich appointed gunn thinking 'oh good they have appointed a novice, we can now get someone in to swing things' then this happens. Didn't mean to offend Nick, I know you are a keen fan as much as the rest of us. I just want to harness this widespread fury at Wilde's actions - or sometimes lack of them - that are acting as a blanket that suffocates our club to death slowly an painfully - into action. I believe a total boycott for the Swansea game is the best way but the march - if it focuses on Wilde and Askham, not just Rupert Lowe, could be very effective in tandem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 On the plus side this is the ideal oppotunity for ITV to give us extended highlights from funny camera angles on the Championship next weekend. P.s. This is a disaster for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 so..are you suggesting that all the fan pressure never paid a part...? If you believe that then you have to believe that Lowe would be influenced by the very same people he brands as 'lunatics'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Didn't mean to offend Nick, I know you are a keen fan as much as the rest of us. I just want to harness this widespread fury at Wilde's actions - or sometimes lack of them - that are acting as a blanket that suffocates our club to death slowly an painfully - into action. I believe a total boycott for the Swansea game is the best way but the march - if it focuses on Wilde and Askham, not just Rupert Lowe, could be very effective in tandem with it.Who is RL's kingmaker? Askham I assume,that is where perhaps the point of our disappointment should fall.You didnt offend by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 If Wotte is a perminant appointment it is madness. I refuse to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 If Wotte is a perminant appointment it is madness. I refuse to believe it. I'm clinging to the thought that Wigley was also meant to be a permanent appointment and that didn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Who is RL's kingmaker? Askham I assume,that is where perhaps the point of our disappointment should fall.You didnt offend by the way Totally agree on Askham Nick. He is grubby, weak man and the reverse takeover confirmed it. Branfoot was his boy and he (Askham) really dug his heels in there until a mixture of boycotts and near-riots - the atmosphere at the Port Vale Cup game was really volatile and almost on a par with last week. He was lost and had to call in LM to pull him through the mess he'd created. Askham could topple Lowe but trouble is Nick, Lowe makes poor decisions at the shop window of SFC but we'd still be stuck with Wilde even if Lowe went and Askham "stepped back". Wilde is even weaker than Askham and IMO, should be our real target. Wilde is the key to what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instinct Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Wotte load of rubbish Lowe, Wilde, Wotte and Gore out Crouch and a decent english manager in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 He we go again, Mr Average Businessman bumbles from one crisis to another. The 'only' man with the vision to lead us out the 'mess made by others', shows he has no balls or no vision, I have always believed the latter. Is this a Lowe decision to distance himself from blame, or a board decision marking the beginning of the end for Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Who is RL's kingmaker? Askham I assume,that is where perhaps the point of our disappointment should fall. Couldnt agree more. Askham has always been the root of this whole sorry mess with his greed at the reverse takeover. His treatment of John Corbett in his last days was disgusting and should not be forgotten. I am not a violent person by any means but i remember sitting at AGM's when he was sat at the top table with that smarmy grin on his face and my over riding feeling was that I wanted to go and punch him right in his odious little smug face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Hear Hear ! A good guy let down by the board,fans and players alike. Excuse me? When exactly did the fans let him down? What other fans do you think would have the patience to wait 14 home games (13 of them winless) before voicing their frustration??? Get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Hear Hear ! A good guy let down by the board,fans and players alike. Excuse me? When exactly did the fans let him down? What other fans do you think would have the patience to wait 14 home games (13 of them winless) before voicing their frustration??? Get real. Yes, I found that slightly difficult to take in. I consider Saints fans to be a pretty patient bunch, when all is said and done. They've put up with mediocrity and a lack of ambition for season after season. Whenever there has been light at the end of the tunnel, it has been snuffed out. And only when disaster is imminent do they finally lose their cool. I don't condone fighting [i assume this is the let down excuse], but I can easily understand the frustration. Any football club has aspirations to success, or they might as well not exist. Can anyone call this aspirations to success..? People might think... oh, but we've got a lovely stadium..! Well so we bloody should have. Fans put up with the cramped Dell [gawd bless it] for 25-30 years too long. I call that patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Well that was a surprise, nice man but not up to the job now get someone in who knows the CCC Lowe. You have one of the more polite comments on this thread, though I agree with you. JP is an honest man, who thought he could do the job - but not with the squad he had to use. At least we did get to see the Academy lads perfrom, but they can't do it every match. (not unexpectedly). The irony is - if our away from had been at HOME then we would half expected the AWAY results to look like our home form, however, without Svensson, a " functioning " Euell and - at least one of the loaned strikers -, we're on a hiding to nothing almost every match. I DO like the " Dutch " style of play but the squad we have is far too inexperienced to do it justice. Lowe shouldn't have allowed JP to take on the task without letting him buy in a bit more experience in August instead of trusting to luck with lots of not -so-special loan players. Only Cork was worth keeping - and he didn't want to stay ! I feel sorry for JP - but thats the price you pay -isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Couldnt agree more. Askham has always been the root of this whole sorry mess with his greed at the reverse takeover. His treatment of John Corbett in his last days was disgusting and should not be forgotten. I am not a violent person by any means but i remember sitting at AGM's when he was sat at the top table with that smarmy grin on his face and my over riding feeling was that I wanted to go and punch him right in his odious little smug face. Give it a few beers - it won't be me as I'm not a violent person - but someone will. Wilde has to be a walking target if enters SMS in the near future. By all accounts he copped a fair bit of stick in the Itchen and that was BEFORE it really got nasty at the Donny game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Well now that he has resigned i feel I can say what I honestly thought of his tenure. JP was totally out of his depth. His style of football was totally ill-suited to the CCC. He was the manager of a tin-pot Dutch club at a time when Dutch footie has never been so weak. He was offered the chance to come and work in the second tier of English club football, possibly the strongest league in the world and at a club with easy access back to Holland via the airport. It was a no-brainer. He took the chance with out even thinking about it. A very honest and decent man, but naive in the extreme when it came to CCC football. I wish him well in the future but I am very grateful that he has finally gone. Did Rupert push him? Will Rupert admit that it was yet another crap Lowe decision? And most importantly will MW be any better? Up the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Originally Posted by Dalek2003 Le Tissier is right. Sturrock was out of his depth, he did not have the respect of the Premier players. We needed a manager with pedigree, we could have appointed one, but a very vocal, but minority of fans saw that this did not happen. Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. To be fair, the main reason the board did not back Lowe regarding Hoddle was because of the reactions of the fans to his reappointment. The fact it would cause more unrest in difficult times was one thing they thought should be avoided. The board members themselves that voted against Hoddle stated that it was an error, giving their reason as fan reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 To be fair, the main reason the board did not back Lowe regarding Hoddle was because of the reactions of the fans to his reappointment. The fact it would cause more unrest in difficult times was one thing they thought should be avoided. The board members themselves that voted against Hoddle stated that it was an error, giving their reason as fan reaction. Fine. But the point the Hoddleites forget is that there were plenty of other good managers around who could have been appointed other than Sturrock. It wasn't a case of, "if we can't have Hoddle it has to be Sturrock". The ommission of Hoddle is irrelevant. It is no more significant in our decline than the ommission of Jose Morinho, Barry Fry or Brian Clough. The board got the decision wrong and then followed it up by an even worse one (Wigley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I feel no animosity towards Jan Poortvliet who I regard as a good and honest man.He was just put into an impossible position by an absolute c^nt of a chairman. So Rupert,your experiment and dalliance with a revolutionary set up has failed,why don't you just f^ck off and die ? I'm still of the opinion that he did a good job under the circumstances. I'm expecting things to go rapidly downhill now he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I'm still of the opinion that he did a good job under the circumstances. I'm expecting things to go rapidly downhill now he's gone. If one home win all season counts as doing a good job I'd hate to see his bad job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 What a shocker - Dalek posts about Hoddle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 I'm still of the opinion that he did a good job under the circumstances. I'm expecting things to go rapidly downhill now he's gone. Of course it will, they've just appointed they bloke who helped mastermind our plummet down the table! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. Of all the things that I have learned today reading the various threads - this is, without doubt, the most disturbing...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred kemp Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 the best we can hope for is jan coming back for wotte and the other coach, for his new job at pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Originally Posted by up and away To be fair, the main reason the board did not back Lowe regarding Hoddle was because of the reactions of the fans to his reappointment. The fact it would cause more unrest in difficult times was one thing they thought should be avoided. The board members themselves that voted against Hoddle stated that it was an error, giving their reason as fan reaction. Fine. But the point the Hoddleites forget is that there were plenty of other good managers around who could have been appointed other than Sturrock. It wasn't a case of, "if we can't have Hoddle it has to be Sturrock". The ommission of Hoddle is irrelevant. It is no more significant in our decline than the ommission of Jose Morinho, Barry Fry or Brian Clough. The board got the decision wrong and then followed it up by an even worse one (Wigley). That is completely wrong and one of the main reasons that pushed us towards Wigley, there were no stand out candidates. Blackburn were in exactly the same position as us and went for Mark Hughes, which worked out well. But Hughes had no club management experience and only Wales on his cv. Looking at things objectively, Craig Brown or Andy Roxborough had better pedigrees than Hughes. Go back over the suitable candidates at the time and you then see why someone would look at Hoddle, even after all that had passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanger Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Blimey! Wikipedia's already up to date! Hello by the way. How ironic that i'm joining the forum during what could be Saint's swan song in the CCC. Now living in the smoke but from Soton - folks still down there and thats where my heart (but unfortunately not my job) is. So, Curbs next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 That would suit me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 24 January, 2009 Share Posted 24 January, 2009 Blimey! Wikipedia's already up to date! Hello by the way. How ironic that i'm joining the forum during what could be Saint's swan song in the CCC. Now living in the smoke but from Soton - folks still down there and thats where my heart (but unfortunately not my job) is. So, Curbs next? Curbishly is much too savvy to want to work for Lowe. That said, we're unlikely to get another new manager until we see the back of the ruddy one. My choice would still be Dowie. I just have a feeling that his destiny is to manage us one day, and resurrect his career and our fortunes. Of course we have to suffer the Dutch experiment and League 1 before any upturn of fortune... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 To be fair, the main reason the board did not back Lowe regarding Hoddle was because of the reactions of the fans to his reappointment. The fact it would cause more unrest in difficult times was one thing they thought should be avoided. The board members themselves that voted against Hoddle stated that it was an error, giving their reason as fan reaction. I would like to see where the board members stated that, its too easy to assume they acted after the reactions of the fans. Maybe they felt the same ways as the fans and voted for what they felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 I would like to see where the board members stated that, its too easy to assume they acted after the reactions of the fans. Maybe they felt the same ways as the fans and voted for what they felt. Didn't Lowe get agreement by a majority of the board but didn't go ahead because he wanted a unanimous decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 Now I accept that you're not the sharpest tool in the box, despite being a teacher so I'll explain in very simple terms. The Board decided not to appoint Hoddle, not the fans, The Board. Now I understand that it suits your Hoddle w@nk fantasy to say how it's the fans fault as you shoot your load, but seriously, get over it. I remember quite well that the fans opposition to Hoddle was very vociferous. The Board did indeed over-rule Lowe and decided not to appoint Hoddle, but I am sure that the Board were influenced by the strong feeling among a large proportion of the fanbase. Ironically they did not want to fuel dissent in the club by re-appointing such a controversial manager. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 25 January, 2009 Share Posted 25 January, 2009 If Wotte is a perminant appointment it is madness. I refuse to believe it. There is no such thing as a 'permanent' appointment in football. I appreciate aintforever is really saying he'd prefer Wotte to have been caretaker whilst the club looked for someone else, but if results continue to leave us in the bottom three, I'd be surprised if Wotte was kept on. He has an opportunity, and if the team start to get better results, who would then expect him to be sacked? But if nothing improves, I wouldn't bank on his future. Saints have rarely kept on a failing manager for long, in fact, very few clubs do, so its not even a matter of Lowe doing things differently to any other chairman. Sometimes manager appointments work and sometimes they don't, its very much a matter of luck. Even Pearson, who some people on here now seem to regard as a genius, took us down the table and we only stayed up because of the results of other teams on the last day of the season. Its luck we need, and we need Wotte to have some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 What we need is someone who can not only inspire the players but more importantly fire the enthusiasm of all those supporters who have found better things to do on a Saturday afternoon. Wotte is not that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 This article would suggest Wotte really is permanent . . . http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11269 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Its luck we need, and we need Wotte to have some. If the prognosis is that all we need is a bit of luck, something that Wotte goes on and on about in his interview, then IMHO we are doomed. Anyone who has been to St Mary's this season will know that our problems run much deeper than being unlucky!!!! Thinking all we need is a change of luck is head in the sand thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If the prognosis is that all we need is a bit of luck, something that Wotte goes on and on about in his interview, then IMHO we are doomed. Anyone who has been to St Mary's this season will know that our problems run much deeper than being unlucky!!!! Thinking all we need is a change of luck is head in the sand thinking. Saw that as well But luckily, to stop me getting totally suicidal about the future he did talk about "bringing in experience" and "changing a few things".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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