redkeith Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 One for you statos out there. All I can remember is the Alonso tackle he missed, the VAR from Saturday and the Adams Goal and sending off tonight. There must be some decision he has given us, by the law of averages, but I don't know when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Has anyone actually worked out yet what Part of Adams was offside. Also how did they come to the conclusion from multiple looks at the video that Bednarek fouled Martial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 I can't remember Dean giving us a 90/10 decision that was in our favour. The man does everything he can to emphasise the fact that he loathes our club. Ralph should insist he is never involved in any of our future games. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Yes. We won the toss once and chose which direction we wanted to play... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 My first memory of him was in the FA Cup game vs Manure when we were in the Championship. We lost 4-0. He gave them a pen for handball when it hit David McGoldrick's armpit. He's been absolute wank in every single game i've seen him ref for us since. He is a hateful, egotistical little cunt of a man. A chicken farming, attention seeking slug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Mike dean LOVES to be the centre of attention. He thinks he's a star up there with Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs and looks down on clubs not in the top 6! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 13 minutes ago, darren2 said: Mike dean LOVES to be the centre of attention. He thinks he's a star up there with Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs and looks down on clubs not in the top 6! This is it. He's a fucking primadonna who wants to grab the headlines. I cannot remember a single example of him awarding a contentious decision in our favour. He has no objectivity whatsoever and is unfit to be a PL referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: This is it. He's a fucking primadonna who wants to grab the headlines. I cannot remember a single example of him awarding a contentious decision in our favour. He has no objectivity whatsoever and is unfit to be a PL referee. I always remember a former ref, can’t recall his name, but years after retiring he said it was always better to get a top mark from a big club than a good mark from a smaller club. That sums up Mike Dean And well done Saints for making that request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 I remember him sending off Redmond against Spurs a few seasons back and giving a penalty when it was outside the box I think? Every single time we have him we seem to get something hugely contentious given. Bizarre bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 hour ago, trousers said: fair play to Saints. Neither should be allowed near us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 hour ago, trousers said: They should also be demoted to the sunday league, but then I wouldn't want them influencing those levels either. They should just retire. They could get a cushty job like peter walton on BT Sport, sat in the warm co-commenting on premier league games. Then we can just mute them when they come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Where is dean actually from anyone know? I know mason is a skate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 I don’t know who would be the worst to have as a referee when playing at OT, Mike Dean, Lee Mason or, a call from the past, Howard Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: They should also be demoted to the sunday league, but then I wouldn't want them influencing those levels either. They should just retire. They could get a cushty job like peter walton on BT Sport, sat in the warm co-commenting on premier league games. Then we can just mute them when they come on. Yes, that wouldn’t be fair ion the Sunday leagues. That was where I used to flaunt my mistakes. Ive also played in a lot of 9-0 defeats myself. Sometimes even worse than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris cooper said: Where is dean actually from anyone know? I know mason is a skate . Mike Dean is a Tranmere Rovers supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 hour ago, trousers said: Near future? Should be never. Also serious questions should be asked of the FA that is clubs are forced to do this and have highlighted refs as being poor against them on a repeated basis then he is basically failing at his job and should be fired. How the F is he an elite ref? he's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Just now, tajjuk said: Near future? Should be never. Also serious questions should be asked of the FA that is clubs are forced to do this and have highlighted refs as being poor against them on a repeated basis then he is basically failing at his job and should be fired. How the F is he an elite ref? he's terrible. Elite referee for 20 years, 20 frigging years. He seems untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamiSaint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Was he the ref who didn't give the handball against spurs at St Mary's a couple of years ago when the player had his hands way out? Seem to remember him giving Spurs a dodgy penalty or two too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 hours ago, darren2 said: Mike dean LOVES to be the centre of attention. He thinks he's a star up there with Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs and looks down on clubs not in the top 6! When does he retire? I'll bet he's already touting himself to be a contestant in IACGMOOH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 He's right up with Gerald Ashby as the most inept ref in living memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris cooper said: Where is dean actually from anyone know? I know mason is a skate . Seen this mentioned a few times, but Mason is from Bolton. So he's just fcking useless, not a skate. Wasn't Rob Styles a skate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 minute ago, ErwinK1961 said: Seen this mentioned a few times, but Mason is from Bolton. So he's just fcking useless, not a skate. Wasn't Rob Styles a skate? Same ..was told by many he was from the shit hole at the east end of m27 ..don’t know about styles but would explain a lot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 11 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Seen this mentioned a few times, but Mason is from Bolton. So he's just fcking useless, not a skate. Wasn't Rob Styles a skate? Mason was born in Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Wasn't Rob Styles a skate? Waterlooville, so close enough. My brother dated his daughter, circa 2010. The Styles lived in Denmead at the time. #pointlessITK Edited 3 February, 2021 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 30 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Seen this mentioned a few times, but Mason is from Bolton. So he's just fcking useless, not a skate. Wasn't Rob Styles a skate? Rob Styles was born in Waterlooville for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) I wrote this before the game: You do realize how arrogant Mike Dean is? He is right and everybody else is wrong. He'll be looking to dish out more of the same. He's the worst referee we could possibly get against United because he always favours them. He'll do anything he can to ensure they win including wrongly dishing out red cards and penalties. He even got demoted to the Championship for doing so."Ex-players such as Niall Quinn and Alan Smith described Dean as ‘arrogant’ and ‘attention-seeking’, while ex-Ireland international, Stephen Hunt, claimed Dean was ‘the most arrogant person – player or official- that I ever shared a field with’.Arsenal fans launched a petition to prevent Dean from refereeing another Gunners’ match. Although naturally doomed to failure, the petition raised over 100,000 signatures within a week.Two years later Dean again had the humiliation of a decision of his being overturned retroactively by the FA. After just fifteen minutes of an Old Trafford clash between Manchester United and West Ham, the home side’s Phil Jones had a coming together with the Hammers’ Sofiane Feghouli.To most neutral observers, Jones was the more likely of the two to have committed a foul, yet to the amazement of most, it was Feghouli who was shown the red card. That United went on to win the game 2-0 did not help matters, and not only was the red card overturned, but Dean was also demoted to a spell refereeing in the Championship."Dean has awarded Man United EIGHTEEN penalties already. I'm pretty sure that must be the most penalties any referee has awarded to any team in the history of football and he'll certainly be looking to add to that total tomorrow night.Everybody in football knows Mike Dean has it in for Southampton.https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/10/28/garth-crooks-says-referee-mike-dean-instigRemember this one?https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14993139.southampton-will-not-appeal-nathan-re Edited 3 February, 2021 by Nordic Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 All I know is that I'm generally pessimistic about how a game will go if I spot Dean or Mason are going to be refereeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 I think he’s a spurs fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I think he’s a spurs fan Seriously, wtf. If anyone doubts corruption, watch that. Something stinks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I think he’s a spurs fan No, I’m afraid that is indicating advantage. It’s also a case of ‘look at me’ but most referees are pleased if they give advantage and it leads to a goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: No, I’m afraid that is indicating advantage. It’s also a case of ‘look at me’ but most referees are pleased if they give advantage and it leads to a goal. Correct. He addressed this on The Peter Crouch Podcast. As much as I'd love to say it's evidence of corruption, he's done it quite a few times (in various matches) after giving advantages that lead directly to goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 3 hours ago, Saint_lambden said: Mason was born in Portsmouth. I got my info from the ever reliable wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Mason I'll stand corrected if that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: I got my info from the ever reliable wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Mason I'll stand corrected if that's not the case. This Wikipedia? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Mason Of course anybody can edit Wikipedia . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: No, I’m afraid that is indicating advantage. It’s also a case of ‘look at me’ but most referees are pleased if they give advantage and it leads to a goal. It was a joke, Nobody thinks he’s celebrating a goal. Edited 3 February, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 19 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It was a joke, Nobody thinks he’s celebrating a goal. You’d be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the colonel Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Can anyone really see the FA siding with Saints against two of their own?!?! If they do then they have to admit either they fuccked up with the rules or the officials interpreting them are wrong/incapable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 All I can say is I hope I never meet him in person for his sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 "In January, Wolves manager Nuno Espirito Santo was fined £25,000 by the FA for criticising Mason after his side's defeat by Burnley. Nuno said that Mason "is not good enough" to officiate at the top level." Not much chance of the request succeeding then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Unfortunately there are just too many dinosaur referees in the PL. Its like a white middle class members club and I don’t know how many come through but just seems to be the same trash as Dean, Mason, Moss. I like Mariner and I like Oliver. Bound to be some more but even the likens of Friend and Stott are corrupt to the top six. Need a shake up and refresh and time for those overweight codgers to go and do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 Mike Dean's stats speak for themselves. In 77 games he's awarded Man Utd 19 penalties and sent off 2 of their players with a straight red yet in 35 games for Southampton we've had 4 straight red sent off, and 5 penalties, (so we're 4 times more likely to have a player sent off and they're twice as likely to get a penalty). For our 4 red cards under him, he's never sent off an opposition player and has awarded 9 penalties against us the 4 for us. Tell me he's fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 58 minutes ago, darren2 said: Mike Dean's stats speak for themselves. In 77 games he's awarded Man Utd 19 penalties and sent off 2 of their players with a straight red yet in 35 games for Southampton we've had 4 straight red sent off, and 5 penalties, (so we're 4 times more likely to have a player sent off and they're twice as likely to get a penalty). For our 4 red cards under him, he's never sent off an opposition player and has awarded 9 penalties against us the 4 for us. Tell me he's fair? He has issued the most red cards of any referee. The question is not so much how many he himself has awarded to Man Utd but how he compares with other referees and how many penalties they have awarded to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Wurzel said: When does he retire? I'll bet he's already touting himself to be a contestant in IACGMOOH. Is that I'm a C**t Get Me Out of Here or I'm a Celeb? Wouldn't be right to hope something went wrong going into the jungle or during a BTT would it? Edited 4 February, 2021 by Winnersaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketphilly Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 One problem is that they are self regulating (I think). Therefore they are of one mindset and that seems to be the letter of the Law. If their governing panel had independents sat on it, ex-players for example, then maybe we would get interpretations of the laws, the spirit if you like. The Matt Cash incident was a perfect example, yes the ball did touch his thigh before hitting his outstretched arm. The law was never intended for the ball grazing off someone, it was for the ball to be deflected and deviated off it's path onto the hand. The referees are don't want to make their own interpretations (use common sense?) If they took advice from independents rather than other referees we may see some improvement. Don't get me started on the offside laws......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 On 03/02/2021 at 08:14, northam soul said: Has anyone actually worked out yet what Part of Adams was offside. Also how did they come to the conclusion from multiple looks at the video that Bednarek fouled Martial. I think it was a piece of thread hanging from his shirt sleeve that was offside. If the final decision on the Bednarek/Martial episode fell to Dean to make, it was never going to be in Saints favour. I sat through the entire match with my Man U loving son-in-law 😝and even he was saying Martial had dived. I told him Dean would award a penalty and a red card, purely because it's Saints and he's a spiteful little git. Sure enough................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 4 February, 2021 Share Posted 4 February, 2021 Dream team of Dean and Mason scheduled to be back together AGAIN for West Ham's game this coming weekend......... make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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