Suhari Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 So: will he influence the performance of our other attacking players, and lead to more directness in one-on-ones. Or will he learn the nifty trick of checking back inside and passing back to the CBs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 2 hours ago, cloggy saint said: I suspect Liverpool only got Minamino in order to shift some shirts in Asia, I'm not overly surprised they were prepared to loan him out. More the attractive release fee from Salzburg £7m or so, which at the time struggled to buy you a decent Championship midfielder. The marketing angle won’t have hurt but remember he’d already hurt Liverpool in the CL in the games against them. Decent loan for Saints with Theo out for a few weeks, Adams and Danny a bit off tune, and Redmond has been poor this year. Big rest of the season for Nathan, needs to sharpen up and get back to the form and focus of early on in Ralph’s time. A bit of genuine competition helped Oriol with Diallo so hoping same again. Whoever gave Long a two year extension needs a rocket though. Waste of ££ when the club is skint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Needed to be signed by midday yesterday to be registered in time. Unlucky MLG, I'd already been schooled by S-clarke, your slipping ;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/424655-takumi-minamino-loan-move-explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, SaintTex said: yeah, my apologies, i fouled that all up. Miramino played in Austria, not Germany. There was nothing wrong with what you said. Takumi has spent 6 seasons playing in the Bundesliga, in Ralph's home country. Ralph would certainly have known about him there. You've only compromised yourself since by mentioning Germany. The attempt at pedantry was a dismal failure. 😊 Edited 2 February, 2021 by VectisSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 4 hours ago, Suhari said: So: will he influence the performance of our other attacking players, and lead to more directness in one-on-ones. Or will he learn the nifty trick of checking back inside and passing back to the CBs? Hopefully he’ll actually see the runs Danny makes and pass the thing to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said: Cheers, a good read.That really was a good bit of business. Shame we didn't get Nico Williams though, he'd have added something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Looks promising shame Liverpool denied the option to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 February, 2021 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mr X said: Looks promising shame Liverpool denied the option to buy That's not to say they wont. I'd say we have a reasonable chance, assuming he plays well but not exceptionally for us. There's quite a big space for him to slot into between, "better than Redmond/Tella/Walcott" and, "wont get a game ahead of Mane/Salah/AOC." If he fits in there and we offer them a modest profit on the £7.5m they paid for him, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Klopp is saying he loaned him out as Liverpool were short of tall players for defending set pieces and he would probably get a lot of game time with Saints. He’s hoping he comes back up to speed so no thought of selling at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 15 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: Klopp is saying he loaned him out as Liverpool were short of tall players for defending set pieces and he would probably get a lot of game time with Saints. He’s hoping he comes back up to speed so no thought of selling at the moment. Sounds like he’s expecting Minamino to return from this loan having grown taller. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Er I think he means VVD should be back for next season , he denied rumours VVD will be back this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Ralph needs to put him straight into the side on Saturday as he is not in trauma unlike those who played last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Teddeer said: Ralph needs to put him straight into the side on Saturday as he is not in trauma unlike those who played last night. He will be on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 (edited) Come on the Japanese Messi - lets see some goals for Newscastle My optimism radar is going off big time for this 7th wonder of the world, Mianmino is going to be an absolute beast for us. It makes complete sense he will be nothing short of a success as we dont have an option to buy so fate determines he's going to be awesome and therefore we would not be able to afford him at the end of his loan. 17 games of goals goals goals coming up, he's already in the fantasy team. Edited 5 February, 2021 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 He's not super prolific going by his goal record, around a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 maybe level, but I'd take that if we could get 5 goals out of him and a couple of assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Østerrike Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 It is a brilliant deal for sure. I remember Minamino pretty well from his time in Austria. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, tajjuk said: He's not super prolific going by his goal record, around a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 maybe level, but I'd take that if we could get 5 goals out of him and a couple of assists. Please let me dream Also youtube highlights are never wrong - Red Bull career Edited 5 February, 2021 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 5 February, 2021 Author Share Posted 5 February, 2021 Anything we get out of him is pretty much a bonus. Bearing in mind we went shopping for fullbacks and only caught a glimpse of him on the 'Reduced to Clear' shelf on the way out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 3 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Come on the Japanese Messi - lets see some goals for Newscastle I'd rather he scored for us to be honest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 Dean is a disgrace. Just watched Ralph's pre-Newcastle video and they showed the clip at the end of the match. Ralph fist pumps the officials and when he does so with Dean the twat hasn't even got the courage to look at him let alone look him in the eye. Fuming at this lack of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 Squad number 19.... same as Tadanari Lee had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 Well if he smacks one in like Tadanari did v Derby then fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 5 February, 2021 Share Posted 5 February, 2021 Cant wait to see Minamino play tomorrow what a coup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 February, 2021 Share Posted 6 February, 2021 (edited) Maybe the tiniest bit of good news from today. I thought he looked decent in the first half, he was making good runs into space and his goal was excellent - again, a good run into space, a great touch and an even better finish. Second half he lost his way a little, he hasn't played a great deal for Liverpool so fitness may have come into it, but I also don't understand how we were trying to use him when we were against 9 men? He seemed to play as one of the last men - maybe hoping he could pick a through ball? (Although that would have been tricky with two banks of 4 so condensed to each other - the width and stretching of the play was the way through in that game) But overall a goal on his debut isn't bad at all, looks a tidy little player and certainly a much needed lift for our attacking third. Edited 6 February, 2021 by S-Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Hopefully the goal should give him confidence and the start of some form, because Ings, Adams and Redmond are all off form at the moment. The bad luck seems to be impacted Ings, that goal ruled off against Villa and then hitting the inside of the post like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 11 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Maybe the tiniest bit of good news from today. I thought he looked decent in the first half, he was making good runs into space and his goal was excellent - again, a good run into space, a great touch and an even better finish. Second half he lost his way a little, he hasn't played a great deal for Liverpool so fitness may have come into it, but I also don't understand how we were trying to use him when we were against 9 men? He seemed to play as one of the last men - maybe hoping he could pick a through ball? (Although that would have been tricky with two banks of 4 so condensed to each other - the width and stretching of the play was the way through in that game) But overall a goal on his debut isn't bad at all, looks a tidy little player and certainly a much needed lift for our attacking third. Pretty much as I saw it. Him being the last man was weird. When they were at 9 men he often took up a kind of auxiliary left back position (like Fred was for Man Utd in the week) with Bertrand ahead of him. It was so congested in their box, when he got the ball though he just gave it simple then jogged up to join the attack. It was strange. We needed him to get on the ball where he could do damage, not in defence, but in fairness to him, he was at least trying to get on the ball. First half though he looked good, although some sloppy passes but perhaps nerves/rust. The touch, turn of pace and finish for his goal were pure class though. On the whole he looks a cracking acquisition. With a full weeks training I'm confident he'll make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 Japanese Messi came good, think he was knackered from 60mins onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALK DMC Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Japanese Messi came good, think he was knackered from 60mins onwards. It does beg the question why he wasn't substituted. It was obvious that he wasn't contributing anything in the 2nd half and Djenepo was on the bench, or we could have stuck Vestergaard up front for the final 20-30 minutes of the game (rather than as we did very briefly). I read a click bait article last week that indicated that we'd pay less for the loan the more Minamino plays. Probably nonsense, but it will be interesting to see if he plays every match (although not a lot of competition with both Walcott and Armstrong probably out for a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 (edited) On the evidence of the way he took his goal, a class player. Made others look ponderous. Reminded me a bit of David Connolly at his best. Edited 7 February, 2021 by gordonToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 Be interesting to see how Ralph plays his cards this weekend, with Redders, Armstrong, Djenepo and Minamino all fit (AFAIK). Which two start, and which two go to the bench? Personally, I see Armstrong and Minamino as our BEST two, but maybe there's a case for leaving some gems on the bench to play aces late in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 Just now, the saint in winchester said: Be interesting to see how Ralph plays his cards this weekend, with Redders, Armstrong, Djenepo and Minamino all fit (AFAIK). Which two start, and which two go to the bench? Personally, I see Armstrong and Minamino as our BEST two, but maybe there's a case for leaving some gems on the bench to play aces late in the game. I'd go with Minamino and Armstrong in the two wide slots. They seem pretty well suited to then coming inside as required and operating as a number 10. I reckon, if available, Minamino will play every game for us - I think there are some financial incentives to suggest he does (we pay less if he plays games, I think it could end up being a free loan if he plays all our remaining games) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 Armstrong and KWP gives us a very solid, intelligent right hand side. I'd play it as much as possible. Bert and Minimino linked up well against Arsenal so makes sense to try them again on the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: Armstrong and KWP gives us a very solid, intelligent right hand side. I'd play it as much as possible. Bert and Minimino linked up well against Arsenal so makes sense to try them again on the left. Newcastle not Arsenal and I agree with you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 13 February, 2021 Share Posted 13 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Pilchards said: Newcastle not Arsenal and I agree with you too. Ah yes, apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 13 February, 2021 Share Posted 13 February, 2021 19 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I think there are some financial incentives to suggest he does (we pay less if he plays games, I think it could end up being a free loan if he plays all our remaining games) That sounds extremely implausible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 February, 2021 Share Posted 13 February, 2021 19 hours ago, S-Clarke said: I'd go with Minamino and Armstrong in the two wide slots. They seem pretty well suited to then coming inside as required and operating as a number 10. I reckon, if available, Minamino will play every game for us - I think there are some financial incentives to suggest he does (we pay less if he plays games, I think it could end up being a free loan if he plays all our remaining games) I agree with that, those 2 our best 10's, even if Walcott were available. There's no way Minamino loan would be free though, but I think it probable that we pay a reduced contribution to his wages if he plays. This loan seems to be part a Liverpool player getting half a season playing Premier league football for his/Liverpool's benefit, and part us getting a player to improve our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 13 February, 2021 Share Posted 13 February, 2021 33 minutes ago, Danbert said: That sounds extremely implausible Nah, think it's true. We'd still be covering all his wages so it wouldn't be free in that regard but the more games he plays the less the loan fee. Makes sense for Liverpool - the only reason for the loan is for him to get games (and in a team with a similar philosophy and style) so this type of structuring of the fee incentivises us to play him. Not sure the loan fee goes down to zero but it's probably pretty close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 13 February, 2021 Share Posted 13 February, 2021 1 minute ago, revolution saint said: Nah, think it's true. We'd still be covering all his wages so it wouldn't be free in that regard but the more games he plays the less the loan fee. Makes sense for Liverpool - the only reason for the loan is for him to get games (and in a team with a similar philosophy and style) so this type of structuring of the fee incentivises us to play him. Not sure the loan fee goes down to zero but it's probably pretty close to it. Ah, I see. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Was invisible today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Viking Saint said: Was invisible today Wasn;t that good. He was utter s***e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Yeah, he was dreadful. Didn't do anything, didn't get involved. Forgot he was playing at times to be honest. Seems another 'shy' and quiet type! Redmond was much more active than he was in the first half, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Agree with that, didn't have any impact on the game. Didn't get involved pressing or creating chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 (edited) He clearly isn’t match fit, just had two games in a week and hasn’t played much this season. I wasn't sure what his role was was today, seemed to be playing deeper than where I have seen him play before. I think he’ll be very good given some time to settle. He started well enough, just faded. Edited 14 February, 2021 by Toussaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Does he normally play on the left though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Viking Saint said: Was invisible today To be honest ings and Armstrong apart I'd say the same for the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 22 February, 2021 Share Posted 22 February, 2021 If you can believe paper talk, he may be going to Sevilla next season in a player swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 22 February, 2021 Share Posted 22 February, 2021 He's an odd one. Two great goals in 3 appearances but not really much else. Not sure he's cut out to play midfield. Maybe Ralph needs to work out how to use him in a more advanced role so he can get into scoring positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 22 February, 2021 Share Posted 22 February, 2021 3 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said: If you can believe paper talk, he may be going to Sevilla next season in a player swap. Hmm, interesting. Sevilla have stated they will only offer 10M EUR, so maybe if Sevilla have a player that Liverpool want, that could come about (the player swap). Do we have a player that Liverpool might want? I'm thinking that Liverpool need a decent CB, and they usually shop with us for their CB (VVD, Lovren) then maybe they would like Wesley Hoedt. Could be a good move for them. (chuckles into sleeve) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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