Man Utd 9-0 Saints - Match Thread

[LaptopSaint]

19 hours ago, Jimmy_D said:

Could I have the 10-0 against Portsmouth in the cup instead?

Only if it’s in the final.

Imagine the exchange of pleasantries around the stadium afterwards. 

[OldNick]

Imagine getting to a Cup Final against Man Utd and Mike Dean and Lee Mason were the officials

[Cryoman]

19 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Imagine getting to a Cup Final against Man Utd and Mike Dean and Lee Mason were the officials

 Dean would love that. Being all about him. 

[John Boy Saint]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yellows cannot be appealed or awarded retrospectively.

Whilst being a year old, this goes someway to explain the (struggling to find the words)..................the bowl of Spaghetti that the rules are,  into the whys and why nots of the retrospective diving bans. Up until Jan 2019 only 2 players have received retrospective bans for diving and that was back in 2017 when the rule was put into place. When you read it you can picture the scene in the reviews room "Right Charlie for Athletic dived, deceived the official into awarding a penalty, Bob the Town player received a yellow for being in the vicinity" - "Right Fred pull up the rule book pages on this issue" "Hmmmmmmm - f**k it: thats far too convoluted, we'll be here past midnight!".

https://www.cityam.com/premier-leagues-diving-problem-fas-rules-have-failed-clamp/

Every single one of us has seen clear and obvious simulation on TV and not seen anything given. 

I would imagine after the Bednarek fiasco there is a full set of Encyclopedia Britannica (look it up kids - oldies google) sat on top of a can marked Worms, trying to stop a single one of the buggers coming out........many questions but as its only Southampton it'll blow over by the weekend.

.......there you go (unless its been changed since) Mike Dean is the man on the Whistle for Fulham v West Ham Saturday night. So you can stand looking at a screen for over a minute, make a final decision that the everyone else in football is calling as wrong, then the appeals committee goes on to deem as wrong, and you are back out next match in your (alleged) £200K a year job, as if nothing has happened (His mate Lee Mason is once again standing with his hands in his pockets as 4th official Spuds v Baggies Sunday - for an alleged £48k a year I guess you don't expect to do as much running about). 

[Shroppie]

One final thought on the game. I wonder what difference it would have made it there had been a full crowd there?

I’m sure the Saints following would have helped us. Can you imagine the grief Dean would have been given, especially after the Bednarek red?

Playing out the last 15 minutes in a silent stadium must have felt utterly empty and meaningless. Even taunting MU fans would possibly have pushed us to fight for pride.

Not really important, just a random thought.

[david in sweden]

21 hours ago, John Boy Saint said:

Whilst being a year old, this goes someway to explain the (struggling to find the words)..................the bowl of Spaghetti that the rules are,  into the whys and why nots of the retrospective diving bans. Up until Jan 2019 only 2 players have received retrospective bans for diving and that was back in 2017 when the rule was put into place. When you read it you can picture the scene in the reviews room "Right Charlie for Athletic dived, deceived the official into awarding a penalty, Bob the Town player received a yellow for being in the vicinity" - "Right Fred pull up the rule book pages on this issue" "Hmmmmmmm - f**k it: thats far too convoluted, we'll be here past midnight!".

https://www.cityam.com/premier-leagues-diving-problem-fas-rules-have-failed-clamp/

Every single one of us has seen clear and obvious simulation on TV and not seen anything given. 

I would imagine after the Bednarek fiasco there is a full set of Encyclopedia Britannica (look it up kids - oldies google) sat on top of a can marked Worms, trying to stop a single one of the buggers coming out........many questions but as its only Southampton it'll blow over by the weekend.

.......there you go (unless its been changed since) Mike Dean is the man on the Whistle for Fulham v West Ham Saturday night. So you can stand looking at a screen for over a minute, make a final decision that the everyone else in football is calling as wrong, then the appeals committee goes on to deem as wrong, and you are back out next match in your (alleged) £200K a year job, as if nothing has happened (His mate Lee Mason is once again standing with his hands in his pockets as 4th official Spuds v Baggies Sunday - for an alleged £48k a year I guess you don't expect to do as much running about). 

Interesting , but you forgot about the sub-clauses at the back of  the rule book that state : 

(1)  Any player for (a) a top 4 side, or  (b) a current international should be given the benefit of the doubt, irrespective of any dubious VAR evidence.

(2) In the event of a foul by a player in either of the above categories;  for a red card offence - show  yellow instead,  and for a yellow card offence - 

avoid giving a card, but give a calm, paternal-type lecture to the player and request him not to repeat the offence / non-offence, as the case may be.

Showing personal displeasure, or the wagging of a finger to a player in one of the above categories should be avoided wherever possible. 

(3) Emerging talents in a Prem. club (example) Grealish of Aston Villa - should be given more leeway with incidents /non-incidents they are involved in.

Such  players often have "balance problems ",  and are subject to sudden falls and the clutching of  a leg  - even when no other opponent is nearby. 

It is unnerving for them to experience such incidents/non-incidents and a free-kick may be given to help them overcome the trauma of the fall , and this 

may assist them in regaining composure, especially if they have dirtied their kit in the process of falling.  NOTE: Have a handkerchief available if they cry.

Incidents of "so-called" simulation are extremely rare and can be safely ignored as they can disrupt the flow of the game.  If the incident /non-incident 

occurs in / or even close to the penalty area,  a penalty kick may be awarded, so as to pacify the team and not incite violent behaviour in the home crowd. 

This rule should be strictly applied, even if the event of  games played in empty stadiums during covid lockdowns,  so as to avoid setting future precedents. 

 4)  None of the above rulings  need be applied, if the opposing side  is below the top half of the said league. 

5)  The bonus system for the issuing of  red cards has been temporarily suspended until further notice.