Jankewitz hands in transfer request

[Minsk]

3 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news/alex-jankewitz-man-united-ward-5258816 

From the above:

"When he turns up and works hard he will get another chance, for sure. He will get the chance to show us that he can do it better than he did against Manchester United," said Hasenhuttl.

"Hopefully, he left this bad moment behind and looks forward to getting better and competing with the other players in the six [position]."

[verlaine1979]

You would think that if there's a chance of Jankewitz being worth real money one day, the club's business model pretty much demands that we try to retain him and get maximum value from his development.

For all the calamity of his league debut, I still think he looks like the most physically and technically promising youth player we've produced since Shaw. Based on glimpses, admittedly, and not a particularly high bar to be compared against, but still.  Hope he gets a proper chance before we let him go.

[SuperSAINT]

Pretty sure he's off.  Ralph won't fancy him given the transfer request, IMO.

Edited 12 April, 2021 by SuperSAINT

[Dusic]

If he wanted to go before then he will surely want to go even more now.

[SKD]

Just now, SuperSAINT said:

 

 

It makes no sense. Even if he was leaving, give him game time and it’ll increase his value. 
 

It’s just the manager being a stubborn prick.  Pathetic and shambolic. 
 

It might turn out that he’s not be any good, but he’d have done a better job than Diallo today. 

[JustinSFC]

14 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Pretty sure he's off.  Ralph won't fancy him given the transfer request, IMO.

Depends who the "Some at Saints feel he is" is...

Who would that be? I was under the impression that Ralph has such a significant role in the club was because nobody else at board level are that football savvy bar pretty much Ralph himself.  

I was at the fan forum with Ralph and that was the general message that I feel was being put across.

[the saint in winchester]

Yeah, Ralph is his own Director of Football Operations; what he says goes for on the field activities.

I can only hope that once we get the 40 point mark then he will give Janko and others a game. He says he needs to apply himself in training, but if I knew I wasn't going to be selected anyway, it would be hard to motivate myself to go the extra mile.

There has been games he should have played, the WBA game, the Bournemouth game when we were cruising, but Ralph stubbornly refuses to let him on the pitch. I can't see any other end to this than a bargain basement fee of £5M tops (could be £2M or even £0.) That isn't good financial management.

[supersonic]

I feel sorry for him, yes he had a shocker on his debut but he must be itching to set the record straight and Ralph is now actively not playing him, in which case why even bother naming him on the bench? 

 

He looked decent for Switzerland when he played (especially against England). Like others have said, if he does want to leave, if he plays well it ups the price. If he is shit and wants to leave then nobody will mind.

 

Ralph does have a habit of only using about 14 players and he isn't one of them. 

[S-Clarke]

5 hours ago, supersonic said:

I feel sorry for him, yes he had a shocker on his debut but he must be itching to set the record straight and Ralph is now actively not playing him, in which case why even bother naming him on the bench? 

 

He looked decent for Switzerland when he played (especially against England). Like others have said, if he does want to leave, if he plays well it ups the price. If he is shit and wants to leave then nobody will mind.

 

Ralph does have a habit of only using about 14 players and he isn't one of them. 

Ralph is stubborn, one of his weaknesses as well as a strength I guess.

If you let him down or do something stupid, you very rarely get another chance. I fully expect him to be sold in the summer to 'boost' our kitty.

Will we look back in a few years time at a superstar playing for PSG in the CL? Who knows. Jurys out though on what he could achieve. Talent alone doesn't get you to the top. 

Edited 14 April, 2021 by S-Clarke

[egg]

59 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Ralph is stubborn, one of his weaknesses as well as a strength I guess.

If you let him down or do something stupid, you very rarely get another chance. I fully expect him to be sold in the summer to 'boost' our kitty.

Will we look back in a few years time at a superstar playing for PSG in the CL? Who knows. Jurys out though on what he could achieve. Talent alone doesn't get you to the top. 

Yep, agree with all of that. Ralph stubbornness is an issue for me, and suggests an inability to man manage players. Slattery is another example. 

On the last bit, talent alone doesn't get a player to the top, but a talented youngster will only get there by playing. 

Jankewitz will move and I'm in little doubt he'll go on to become a very good player. 

[Singapore Saint]

Anyone else thinking (or hoping) Ralph will go before Jankewitz? I am.

[JustinSFC]

30 minutes ago, Singapore Saint said:

Anyone else thinking (or hoping) Ralph will go before Jankewitz? I am.

I'm far from a Hasenhuttl fanboy but that's just mental.

That's a mental thing to say about a player that's had less than 2 minutes of premier League football.

He could be shit at this level.

He might be great at this level.

He's a kid that MIGHT be decent. That's it.
 

[Chez]

On 14/04/2021 at 14:36, supersonic said:

I feel sorry for him, yes he had a shocker on his debut but he must be itching to set the record straight and Ralph is now actively not playing him, in which case why even bother naming him on the bench? 

He's leaving. There is no reason to `gift' him minutes to improve him. He's on the bench in case he is needed. No more, no less. If two CMs get injured, he will probably get on the pitch. If not, he wont.

Not saying I agree with this. IMO he should have got minutes earlier which may he prevented his transfer request, but we are where we are. Pity as he may turn out to be a talent.

[BARCELONASAINT]

Not bothered if he goes, nothing i have seen and i have watched him in games, has me convinced he is ready for the Premiership.  

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

Not bothered if he goes, nothing i have seen and i have watched him in games, has me convinced he is ready for the Premiership.  

He’s 18, why do you expect him to be?

[LiberalCommunist]

We'll find out how good he is after he leaves us. And the fact Ralph doesn't trust him says more about him than Ralph. I imagine his agents comments set a path he wasn't brave enough to swerve from. Shame, especially as our midfield fell apart so presented a clear opportunity for the lad. 

[BARCELONASAINT]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s 18, why do you expect him to be?

I don't particularly expect him to be but the way some posters on here have posted that they are not surprised he's off if he can't get game time and he's better than Diallo....FFS give it a break.  If an 18 year old wants to strop and ask for a transfer rather than at his age fight hard and knuckle down in training and show his worth then he can do one. I have no time for stroppy adults or kids who have not proved their worth.

[SKD]

2 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I don't particularly expect him to be but the way some posters on here have posted that they are not surprised he's off if he can't get game time and he's better than Diallo....FFS give it a break.  If an 18 year old wants to strop and ask for a transfer rather than at his age fight hard and knuckle down in training and show his worth then he can do one. I have no time for stroppy adults or kids who have not proved their worth.

Who’s said he’s better than Diallo? The reality is, no one knows how good he’ll be. He played well at U23 level and has looked tidy when given a chance, but he’s still an unknown quantity. 
 

As for being surprised he’s off, I’m not. Ralph has played 2 players out of position ahead of him. Diallo wasn’t great Monday, AJ could have potentially made an impact. 
 

If he’s not going to get a chance when we have to play a CB there, when will He? Would you be motivated to bust a gut if you kno me the manager isn’t having you?

[BARCELONASAINT]

Just now, SKD said:

Who’s said he’s better than Diallo? The reality is, no one knows how good he’ll be. He played well at U23 level and has looked tidy when given a chance, but he’s still an unknown quantity. 
 

As for being surprised he’s off, I’m not. Ralph has played 2 players out of position ahead of him. Diallo wasn’t great Monday, AJ could have potentially made an impact. 
 

If he’s not going to get a chance when we have to play a CB there, when will He? Would you be motivated to bust a gut if you kno me the manager isn’t having you?

Would i be motivated to bust a gut??......your question is everything i see wrong with the modern world because maybe i come from a generation where i did bust a gut to prove people wrong and show my worth and i'm still doing it. I'm 56 and still play competitive Saturday league football and push myself every season to remain in the starting 11 when the next oldest player is below 40. 

[Turkish]

48 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I don't particularly expect him to be but the way some posters on here have posted that they are not surprised he's off if he can't get game time and he's better than Diallo....FFS give it a break.  If an 18 year old wants to strop and ask for a transfer rather than at his age fight hard and knuckle down in training and show his worth then he can do one. I have no time for stroppy adults or kids who have not proved their worth.

Maybe it’s not a strop and he wants to drop down a level to get regular first team football. What’s wrong with that? Surely that sort of ambition and drive  is to be lauded.

[skintsaint]

Just flog him with a 50% future sale fee attached - its easy to do as I know playing years of football manager. Keep everyone happy.

[egg]

10 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

Would i be motivated to bust a gut??......your question is everything i see wrong with the modern world because maybe i come from a generation where i did bust a gut to prove people wrong and show my worth and i'm still doing it. I'm 56 and still play competitive Saturday league football and push myself every season to remain in the starting 11 when the next oldest player is below 40. 

We don't know that he hasn't busted a gut. The lad may be working his socks off but still finds himself getting overlooked. Indeed, he's asked to move because he wants to play football and knows he's good enough. That's a cracking attitude in my book.

From what I've seen, he is an extremely talented player who's physically ready to play. He looks able to offer something different to what we have. He's less one dimensional and his running from midfield is something Diallo and JWP can't give. If I was him I'd be pissed off at not getting a game. 

You playing at 56 is great (I gave up at 43, enough was enough) but it's a poor comparison to a youngster who's frustrated that he isn't getting a chance. Personally, I'd play him ahead of a knackered looking JWP or Diallo for a couple of games. If we don't use him we'll lose him. 

[TWar]

I was really impressed with him at U23 international level but the fact he isn't getting played means something else is probably going on. Wonder if he has an attitude problem behind the scenes. As others have said it is by no means a bad thing to drop down a level to play more football, but it does take a certain confidence to request it. Maybe the lad is a bit arrogant and not a team player.

We have given a lot of young players a shot recently so there must be some reason he keeps getting overlooked. I think at the end of the day we can't really blame him or the manager/coaching staff without seeing what happens in training. We play quite a specific style, maybe Jankewitz isn't adapting well to it as he knows he'll be off in a few months and can't be bothered to learn. Maybe Ralph got pissed off by the united display and subsequent fall-out and is hence treating him unfairly, who knows. But yeah, I think it's safe to say he'll be off.

[SKD]

47 minutes ago, TWar said:

I was really impressed with him at U23 international level but the fact he isn't getting played means something else is probably going on. Wonder if he has an attitude problem behind the scenes. As others have said it is by no means a bad thing to drop down a level to play more football, but it does take a certain confidence to request it. Maybe the lad is a bit arrogant and not a team player.

We have given a lot of young players a shot recently so there must be some reason he keeps getting overlooked. I think at the end of the day we can't really blame him or the manager/coaching staff without seeing what happens in training. We play quite a specific style, maybe Jankewitz isn't adapting well to it as he knows he'll be off in a few months and can't be bothered to learn. Maybe Ralph got pissed off by the united display and subsequent fall-out and is hence treating him unfairly, who knows. But yeah, I think it's safe to say he'll be off.

In fairness, you could find Ralph in bed with your missus and you still Wouldn’t blame him. You’d probably tuck him in. 

Regardless of his application in training, we played a CB in CM over him (who was shite as well btw). We can certainly blame the manager for that one. 

One thing we don’t know is how he’ll adapt, granted, but surely it’s worth a try. 
 

[Matthew Le God]

53 minutes ago, TWar said:

I was really impressed with him at U23 international level but the fact he isn't getting played means something else is probably going on. Wonder if he has an attitude problem behind the scenes. As others have said it is by no means a bad thing to drop down a level to play more football, but it does take a certain confidence to request it. Maybe the lad is a bit arrogant and not a team player.

He is only 19 years old, him not playing doesn't mean he has a problem. He wouldn't still be picked on the 1st team bench in recent weeks if there was anything of real concern. He could still be in our under 23 team for the next 4 years! So he can't expect to jump the queue above Ward-Prowse, Romeu and Diallo. Stephens being using instead was strange.

Edited 16 April, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[Jeremy Corbyn]

I'd hope that now Fulham have decided to give up that we might give the youngsters some game time in the remaining matches. JWP and Diallo isn't the most functional pair so wouldn't mind seeing a few more Jankewitz high tackles.

[TWar]

2 hours ago, SKD said:

In fairness, you could find Ralph in bed with your missus and you still Wouldn’t blame him. You’d probably tuck him in. 

Regardless of his application in training, we played a CB in CM over him (who was shite as well btw). We can certainly blame the manager for that one. 

One thing we don’t know is how he’ll adapt, granted, but surely it’s worth a try. 
 

All I was saying is that you don't know what goes on at training, maybe the manager has his reasons. Either way, an admittedly amusing post.

[Minsk]

5 hours ago, egg said:

We don't know that he hasn't busted a gut. The lad may be working his socks off but still finds himself getting overlooked. Indeed, he's asked to move because he wants to play football and knows he's good enough. That's a cracking attitude in my book.

From what I've seen, he is an extremely talented player who's physically ready to play. He looks able to offer something different to what we have. He's less one dimensional and his running from midfield is something Diallo and JWP can't give. If I was him I'd be pissed off at not getting a game. 

You playing at 56 is great (I gave up at 43, enough was enough) but it's a poor comparison to a youngster who's frustrated that he isn't getting a chance. Personally, I'd play him ahead of a knackered looking JWP or Diallo for a couple of games. If we don't use him we'll lose him. 

So you would drop our captain, 2nd highest goal scorer and top creator of goals for a kid who in his only start lasted less than 2 minutes before getting a red card? And you have audacity to criticise the judgement of the person who watches them both train every day?

Thank fuck you're not the manager!!!

🤣🤣🤣

[TWar]

4 minutes ago, Minsk said:

So you would drop our captain, 2nd highest goal scorer and top creator of goals for a kid who in his only start lasted less than 2 minutes before getting a red card? And you have audacity to criticise the judgement of the person who watches them both train every day?

Thank fuck you're not the manager!!!

🤣🤣🤣

I wouldn't drop JWP but I personally would rest him. No one can play as many minutes in a row as he has without succumbing to fatigue or raising risk of injury. Jankewitz will hopefully get a nod at some point before the season is out. Diallo is quickly becoming our scapegoat but I think he's quality and young so he needs all the minutes he can get to get up to speed with the physicality of the league.

Edited 16 April, 2021 by TWar

[TWar]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

He is only 19 years old, him not playing doesn't mean he has a problem. He wouldn't still be picked on the 1st team bench in recent weeks if there was anything of real concern. He could still be in our under 23 team for the next 4 years! So he can't expect to jump the queue above Ward-Prowse, Romeu and Diallo. Stephens being using instead was strange.

Yeah I agree, it is the Stephens thing and the fact that I think that JWP needs a rest which mean I would like to see him given a go, but my initial post was mainly just saying that these backseat managers don't watch players every day in training and therefore aren't really in a position to say a player who has played two minutes of top flight football ever is being underutilized. Maybe he just isn't clicking with how we play.

[skintsaint]

25 minutes ago, TWar said:

Maybe he just isn't clicking with how we play.

if that was the case he wouldn't have been starting away to Utd.

[TWar]

17 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

if that was the case he wouldn't have been starting away to Utd.

We were absolutely backed into a corner for united. We had Diallo, Romeu, and Smallbone out, Vestergaard and Salisu out so Stephens had to start at CB. Redmond was coming back off injury so didn't start and instead came off the bench along with Minimino, Tella, and Walcott all being out so we needed Amstrong at attacking mid.

I think people who bang on about the 9-0 don't understand the sheer scope of our injury turmoil at the time. Ramsay was about our 7th choice at RB behind KWP, Stephens, JWP, Bednarek, Bertrand, and Diallo. Jankewitz was like our 7th choice CM behind JWP, Romeu, Diallo, Smallbone, Stephens, and Armstrong. Because of our lack of options at CB, fullback, CM, and attacking mid both had to start.  

Edited 16 April, 2021 by TWar

[skintsaint]

8 minutes ago, TWar said:

We were absolutely backed into a corner for united. We had Diallo, Romeu, and Smallbone out, Vestergaard and Salisu out so Stephens had to start at CB. Redmond was coming back off injury so didn't start and instead came off the bench along with Minimino, Tella, and Walcott all being out so we needed Amstrong at attacking mid.

I think people who bang on about the 9-0 don't understand the sheer scope of our injury turmoil at the time. Ramsay was about our 7th choice at RB behind KWP, Stephens, JWP, Bednarek, Bertrand, and Diallo. Jankewitz was like our 7th choice CM behind JWP, Romeu, Diallo, Smallbone, Stephens, and Armstrong. Because of our lack of options at CB, fullback, CM, and attacking mid both had to start.  

True dat. Still he has been around the fringes since all these players have come back so must be doing something right in training.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Minsk said:

So you would drop our captain, 2nd highest goal scorer and top creator of goals for a kid who in his only start lasted less than 2 minutes before getting a red card? And you have audacity to criticise the judgement of the person who watches them both train every day?

Thank fuck you're not the manager!!!

🤣🤣🤣

Do you watch Saints play? If you do you'd have noticed that our "captain" is knackered and playing shit. Yep, I'd rest him. Diallo is also off the pace, and of you've watched us play, you'd realise that him and our captain are a shit midfield pairing. If you watched us play you'd also see that we're shit overall at the moment and that are dynamic midfield duo create fuck all. 

Our manager won't change a losing team. I would. 

[SKD]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

Do you watch Saints play? If you do you'd have noticed that our "captain" is knackered and playing shit. Yep, I'd rest him. Diallo is also off the pace, and of you've watched us play, you'd realise that him and our captain are a shit midfield pairing. If you watched us play you'd also see that we're shit overall at the moment and that are dynamic midfield duo create fuck all. 

Our manager won't change a losing team. I would. 

He’s being absolutely run into the ground. I suspect he’d like to play every minute of this season, but if he does + euros, he’s going to end up with injuries next season. 
 

After Sunday, I hope he’s given a rest. 

[egg]

2 minutes ago, SKD said:

He’s being absolutely run into the ground. I suspect he’d like to play every minute of this season, but if he does + euros, he’s going to end up with injuries next season. 
 

After Sunday, I hope he’s given a rest. 

Yep, and he's falling behind his own standards. The man needs a rest. 

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, egg said:

 our "captain" is knackered 

If he is knackered, how is he maintaining the running distances he puts in each game? 🤔

[egg]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

If he is knackered, how is he maintaining the running distances he puts in each game? 🤔

It's not all about stats Matthew. Does he look fresh and on form to you? 

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

It's not all about stats Matthew. Does he look fresh and on form to you? 

Knackered people don't keep up with their league topping average miles run per game. So stats are very much relevant here.

Edited 16 April, 2021 by Matthew Le God

[egg]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Knackered people don't keep up with their league topping average miles run per game. So stats are very much relevant here.

I judge players on what I see on the pitch. Judging by the comments above, I'm not alone in seeing a jaded looking JWP, but you focus on what the spreadsheet says Matthew. 

[Matthew Le God]

10 minutes ago, egg said:

I judge players on what I see on the pitch. Judging by the comments above, I'm not alone in seeing a jaded looking JWP, but you focus on what the spreadsheet says Matthew. 

You can quantify what happens on the pitch, so that makes it more reliable than an observation.

[Toadhall Saint]

20 minutes ago, egg said:

It's not all about stats Matthew. Does he look fresh and on form to you? 

Not in the last game but then nobody did. He’s been fine up to then.

[egg]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

You can quantify what happens on the pitch, so that makes it more reliable than an observation.

In only your world Matthew is the performance of a player judged on how much he runs. In the real world, there's a bit more to it than that. I'm comfortable with my assessment that JWP looks jaded and in need of a rest. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

On 02/04/2021 at 21:57, Tamesaint said:

I can't see that Jankewitz has a future here.  This may be bollocks and is based on nothing more than conjecture but I think that Ralph has a very strong sense of doing things "correctly." He believes in what I would call an almost "old fashioned" sense of "right and wrong" and wants people to operate to a high code. Team spirit and togetherness are important to him.  

For example compare his treatment of Cedric and Long . Cedric played infrequently for Ralph and left the club not long after after his arrival whilst Long's contract was extended.  Long is generally considered to be "good for the dressing room". Cedric was not - having , for example , shortly before Ralph's arrival left the ground once at half time after being substituted in a game. Long's "song" was played on the tannoy at SMS before matches.  Cedric apparently played on his phone when in the treatment room rather than talk to other teammates having treatment.  Long fitted Ralph's ethos - Cedric did not so Long was retained whilst Cedric was initially replaced by a rookie and then left the club 

For example  last year there was a very nasty story circulating on Twitter about Valery. I won't go into details but if any of it was true, it cast Valery in a very bad light - and would not please anyone with a high moral code and sense of "right and wrong".  Since then Valery has rarely played for us and Ralph has been quite happy to ship him out of the club - even though we had no replacement.

As I said this may all be bollocks but  I would suspect that Jankewitz has upset Ralph's ethos  - firstly by asking for a transfer at such an early stage in his career and then by his performance at Old Trafford. If so, he has no future under Ralph and I would expect to see him leave the club at the end of the season.

Yeah I saw the Valery story too, about a year or so ago now that came out. Wouldn’t say he’s much of a loss though.

I like the old school mentality, drill everyone on the same page. 👍🏻

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

In only your world Matthew is the performance of a player judged on how much he runs. In the real world, there's a bit more to it than that. I'm comfortable with my assessment that JWP looks jaded and in need of a rest. 

You are twisting my words, my post was solely concerning the claim he is knackered. So the amount he is running as a stat is about as relevant as you can get!

[egg]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

You are twisting my words, my post was solely concerning the claim he is knackered. So the amount he is running as a stat is about as relevant as you can get!

No twisting your words mate, your only comment disputing my claim (and others) that he looks jaded was to say that he still runs lots. It looks like JWP isn't the only one who needs to raise his game, maybe you need a rest too. 

[Minsk]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

In only your world Matthew is the performance of a player judged on how much he runs. In the real world, there's a bit more to it than that. I'm comfortable with my assessment that JWP looks jaded and in need of a rest. 

Better keep those finders crossed that Prowsey isn't selected on Sunday then! 🙄

Yes, I watch every game. JWP, as with almost every other player, wasn't at the races against WBA. Maybe they had an upcoming semi-final on their minds? Not that that is any excuse. INHO, Ings was probably our worst player in that match. Maybe he should be dropped on Sunday too? Get Adams in. Oh no, scrap that, he missed a sitter in the last minute against Burnley. N'Lundulu it is then. Walcott was awful as well; give Watts a chance.

Forster is crap, as is McCarthy - according to many on here. Let's give Lewis the nod.

In the Burnley match KWP was by far our worst player. Shocking that he was picked for the Baggies match. Get him out on Sunday - give Ramsey a chance. And surely Tchapchet deserves to be given a chance at CB. Couldn't be any worse that Bednarek or Stephens could he? Always looked good when he's had minutes on the pitch for the first team. And never had a yellow card, let alone a red.

Will Ferry has been one of the best p[layers for the B Team this year. Let's get him in as a marauding LB. After all, according to another genius on here, Bertrand is akin to a serious killer disease in our team. (I'm not going to use the word he used as I think he is a complete and utter twat for having done so in the first place.)

I could go on, but I'm sure you get my drift. It's easy to sit on the sofa and type bollocks. Just as easy to try to justify said bollocks with a load of drivel. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion that Jankewitz should be selected ahead of JWP for no other reason than you think the latter looks a bit tired. Fair enough. Just as I'm entitled to my opinion that you clearly have very little understanding of football, football players and their abilities. I may have said it before but, thank fuck you're not the Saints manager! (BTW, despite your comments on here, I'm sure if Jankewitz starts on Sunday instead of JWP, and we don't win, you will be one of the first critising Ralph about it.)

As my opinion of Jankewitz getting time on the pitch: He was given a golden opportunity to stake his claim and screwed it up. That clearly caused Ralph to lose a fair bit of faith in him. Hence, when the next opportunity came around he picked Stephens in CM ahead of him. Or maybe Ralph thought it unfair to put him in the firing line away to City? Probably the best time to have given him minutes was when 3 up at Bournemouth. But, again, Ralph decided to reward (or rest?) players in other positions. None of us know the real reasons, nor what occurs on the training ground on a daily basis. People will always use anything that happens to support their own agenda (more the likes of SKD, not usually yourself). I would personally like to Jankewitz get game time for the first team - in the right match, at the right time. That doesn't necessarily mean as a starter. Bring him on for the last 20/30 minutes in a meaningless match we are not chasing or desperately clinging onto the points in. Aside from Bournemouth, I struggle to think when such a time occurred. Ralph has stated he will give Jankevitz when the right opportunity permits. I hope he keeps to his word, in the manner I have just stated. However, I see absolutely no reason why he should be given a starting place when more experienced and superior performing players are fit and available.

I only get 3 posts a day and have now said just about all I want on this topic. So please excuse me if I don't respond further. Have a nice evening and try to enjoy the match on Sunday. 

 

[egg]

1 minute ago, Minsk said:

Better keep those finders crossed that Prowsey isn't selected on Sunday then! 🙄

Yes, I watch every game. JWP, as with almost every other player, wasn't at the races against WBA. Maybe they had an upcoming semi-final on their minds? Not that that is any excuse. INHO, Ings was probably our worst player in that match. Maybe he should be dropped on Sunday too? Get Adams in. Oh no, scrap that, he missed a sitter in the last minute against Burnley. N'Lundulu it is then. Walcott was awful as well; give Watts a chance.

Forster is crap, as is McCarthy - according to many on here. Let's give Lewis the nod.

In the Burnley match KWP was by far our worst player. Shocking that he was picked for the Baggies match. Get him out on Sunday - give Ramsey a chance. And surely Tchapchet deserves to be given a chance at CB. Couldn't be any worse that Bednarek or Stephens could he? Always looked good when he's had minutes on the pitch for the first team. And never had a yellow card, let alone a red.

Will Ferry has been one of the best p[layers for the B Team this year. Let's get him in as a marauding LB. After all, according to another genius on here, Bertrand is akin to a serious killer disease in our team. (I'm not going to use the word he used as I think he is a complete and utter twat for having done so in the first place.)

I could go on, but I'm sure you get my drift. It's easy to sit on the sofa and type bollocks. Just as easy to try to justify said bollocks with a load of drivel. Obviously you are entitled to your opinion that Jankewitz should be selected ahead of JWP for no other reason than you think the latter looks a bit tired. Fair enough. Just as I'm entitled to my opinion that you clearly have very little understanding of football, football players and their abilities. I may have said it before but, thank fuck you're not the Saints manager! (BTW, despite your comments on here, I'm sure if Jankewitz starts on Sunday instead of JWP, and we don't win, you will be one of the first critising Ralph about it.)

As my opinion of Jankewitz getting time on the pitch: He was given a golden opportunity to stake his claim and screwed it up. That clearly caused Ralph to lose a fair bit of faith in him. Hence, when the next opportunity came around he picked Stephens in CM ahead of him. Or maybe Ralph thought it unfair to put him in the firing line away to City? Probably the best time to have given him minutes was when 3 up at Bournemouth. But, again, Ralph decided to reward (or rest?) players in other positions. None of us know the real reasons, nor what occurs on the training ground on a daily basis. People will always use anything that happens to support their own agenda (more the likes of SKD, not usually yourself). I would personally like to Jankewitz get game time for the first team - in the right match, at the right time. That doesn't necessarily mean as a starter. Bring him on for the last 20/30 minutes in a meaningless match we are not chasing or desperately clinging onto the points in. Aside from Bournemouth, I struggle to think when such a time occurred. Ralph has stated he will give Jankevitz when the right opportunity permits. I hope he keeps to his word, in the manner I have just stated. However, I see absolutely no reason why he should be given a starting place when more experienced and superior performing players are fit and available.

I only get 3 posts a day and have now said just about all I want on this topic. So please excuse me if I don't respond further. Have a nice evening and try to enjoy the match on Sunday. 

 

You did go on...and as for drivel...

All that stuff about other B team players is irrelevant. N'Lundulu will never be a PL player, ditto Ferry, ditto Ramsey, etc. Jankewitz has the ability, however, to be a very good PL imo. 

We'll have to agree to differ on the treatment of Jankewitz, but for me, his chance came later than it should have. He was exuberant and blew it big time, but to have not had a chance since is poor management. 

As for agenda, my only one here is to see out best talent get a fair crack of the whip. 

 

[JustinSFC]

1 hour ago, egg said:

You did go on...and as for drivel...

All that stuff about other B team players is irrelevant. N'Lundulu will never be a PL player, ditto Ferry, ditto Ramsey, etc. Jankewitz has the ability, however, to be a very good PL imo. 

So Nlundulu, Ramsey definitely isn't good enough for the Premier League despite both making appearances.

But Jankewitz who hasn't played fuck all besides U21 football, is?

I don't agree with how Ralph's handled the situation either, but this "we've got the next Gareth Bale (or insert any other) on our hands" is batshit crazy.

For all we know he could be the next Oscar Gobern if we're going but your senior appearances measuring stick that the others definitely aren't good enough for...

His tackle was definitely Gobern standard.

Come on.

 

 

Edited 16 April, 2021 by JustinSFC

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Diallo been utter wank for weeks. 

Not sure what Jankewitz, or any other CM, has to do to get a game