qwertyell Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 17 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: So it'll be Valery then, awesome. Should be a game to watch from behind the sofa. Saka will have him for dinner and then finish him off for desert. Whoever is in front of Valery will need to be tracking back and then some. Saka usually plays off the right wing. It'll be Aubamayang (if available) or Martinelli up against Valery, in all likelihood. Not exactly ideal to be facing a "big six" club with only one of our first choice back four available, but what can you do? Keep your expectations low, I guess. The trouble with losing KWP, aside from the obvious, is he's been one of our most creative players going forward (which isn't saying much). For a team that lacks quality in the final third, he'll be a big loss. That being said, he's a booking away from suspension (I think the cut off point is after the Arsenal game), so if he were to return against Villa on the weekend, we can probably consider that breaking even. Hey ho. Free hit. Have some fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Just go with Valery and Vokins, not perfect but if we go as strong as possible elsewhere then we can still get something. We didn’t have Ings at their place, he would’ve put that game to bed before the equaliser. At the moment, we are better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 12 minutes ago, qwertyell said: It'll be Aubamayang (if available) or Martinelli up against Valery, in all likelihood. Unfortunately presumably Tierney will be back for them as well to go marauding down the right hand side of our defence.☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 18 minutes ago, saintwbu said: At the moment, we are better than them Arsenal are in miles better form than us. 0-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Hmm that is annoying now with both fullbacks out. Is Romeu fit to start? I’d be tempted to push JWP to right back and have a central midfield of Rom/Diallo. If not, the yep Valery and Vokins will need to start. The team I’d play: Macca Valery Stephens Bednarek Vokins Armstrong JWP Diallo Walcott Ings Adams Although Armstrong looked like he was ran into the ground on Saturday but we don’t have wide options- I’d say get Redmond on at HT and give Dan N’lundulu a 30m run out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, Wimborne_saint said: KWP injured in training and is a major doubt for tomorrow (quad injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 33 minutes ago, nta786 said: Is Romeu fit to start? I Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, Wimborne_saint said: KWP injured in training and is a major doubt for tomorrow (quad injury). Redmond will be back in the squad on the bench. Romeu not ready for Arsenal but will be an option for the weekend. We seem to get an awful lot of injuries in training. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 39 minutes ago, qwertyell said: Arsenal are in miles better form than us. 0-2. This. They will be above us in the table at the final whistle tomorrow night. If we have no Bertrand, Walker-Peters, Vestergaard, Romeu, we're not going to beat a full strength Arsenal side who rested some key players at the weekend. Run of league fixtures not kind to us in this busy spell, having lost to Leicester, Arsenal, we then have Villa who are looking very good currently (above us), then Man Utd also on a fine run. It's good to still be in the FA cup to keep season interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, qwertyell said: Arsenal are in miles better form than us. 0-2. Their ‘miles better form’ has been against teams in absolutely horrendous form - Chelsea, Newcastle twice, Brighton, West Brom and a 0-0 draw against a poor Palace side. They’re still miles off being a top team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... 🧐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Vest with Stephens at RB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 17 minutes ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... Regarding KWP in particular or the wider injury list? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, qwertyell said: Arsenal are in miles better form than us. 0-2. How is their form against us in the last week? That is more relevant than any other game vs a different opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 going to struggle without KWP and Bertrand. Arsenal aren't great, but they rested a few at the weekend so should have too much for us. Looks like the focus is going to be on the FA Cup now, which is understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 31 minutes ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 At least we are at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... Salisu? 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 minute ago, benjii said: Salisu? 🤪 Now you've gone too far. Kevin Danso returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 1 hour ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... Enlighten us LeG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 55 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How is their form against us in the last week? That is more relevant than any other game vs a different opponent. Not really when it won't be the same team for Arsenal. Let's take last 5 league games. Arsenal - won 4, drew 1. Scored 11 conceded 1. - 13 points. Saints - won 1, drew 2, lost 2. Scored 1 conceded 3. - 5 points. I'm not saying it's impossible, but Arsenal have to be considered heavy favourites to win, especially if we play Valery and Vokins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Valery was good enough lat season and one before that to be picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 7 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: Valery was good enough lat season and one before that to be picked He wasn’t unfortunately, especially last season. His only decent performances have been as a wing back, which we won’t be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: Valery was good enough lat season and one before that to be picked He was being picked, but he was never anywhere near being good enough. We had no other options at that point, it was pretty clear we were looking for any half decent RB to come in and they'd automatically take Valerys place. Dreadful positionally and switches off too much, seems to be in his makeup. There was a point we were trying to get a second full back as well, so we clearly don't have full faith in him as backup either. I can understand why. Edited 25 January, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 3 hours ago, JRM said: This. They will be above us in the table at the final whistle tomorrow night. If we have no Bertrand, Walker-Peters, Vestergaard, Romeu, we're not going to beat a full strength Arsenal side who rested some key players at the weekend. Run of league fixtures not kind to us in this busy spell, having lost to Leicester, Arsenal, we then have Villa who are looking very good currently (above us), then Man Utd also on a fine run. It's good to still be in the FA cup to keep season interesting. A double whammy, how many more injuries can we endure without the system breaking down completely. Death by a thousand cuts as they say. Sadly I think this has screwed us and a rampant Gunners at full strength intent on revenge will run us ragged. I hate to say this but we are going to lose 4-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 3 hours ago, JRM said: This. They will be above us in the table at the final whistle tomorrow night. If we have no Bertrand, Walker-Peters, Vestergaard, Romeu, we're not going to beat a full strength Arsenal side who rested some key players at the weekend. Run of league fixtures not kind to us in this busy spell, having lost to Leicester, Arsenal, we then have Villa who are looking very good currently (above us), then Man Utd also on a fine run. It's good to still be in the FA cup to keep season interesting. Yes we've injuries but typical saints web defeatist attitude. Wait until we actually play the games first. To keep the season interesting? We have a game in hand on a number of sides above us, win that and we go 6th and 2 points off 4th. Maybe you would rather we be in the relegation zone to make it more interesting for you 🤷🏽♂️ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 26 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: A double whammy, how many more injuries can we endure without the system breaking down completely. Death by a thousand cuts as they say. Sadly I think this has screwed us and a rampant Gunners at full strength intent on revenge will run us ragged. I hate to say this but we are going to lose 4-0. Really are some fucking jokers on here sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 6 minutes ago, saint77 said: Really are some fucking jokers on here sometimes Quite. For a start they won't have Aubameyang by the sound of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 41 minutes ago, saint77 said: Really are some fucking jokers on here sometimes I think some people talk like this to cover the bases. Talk us down while hoping it won't happen. I do it to be fair. Preach doom and gloom with fingers and toes crossed. We all have different ways of coping with being a Saints fan but....... ultimately we all want the same thing. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 5 hours ago, JRM said: This. They will be above us in the table at the final whistle tomorrow night. If we have no Bertrand, Walker-Peters, Vestergaard, Romeu, we're not going to beat a full strength Arsenal side who rested some key players at the weekend. Run of league fixtures not kind to us in this busy spell, having lost to Leicester, Arsenal, we then have Villa who are looking very good currently (above us), then Man Utd also on a fine run. It's good to still be in the FA cup to keep season interesting. You never disappoint with your deliberate miserable pessimism. Shame it gives you so much pleasure. Really don't know what you're doing on this forum. Clearly not a Saints fan. But we've known that for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 5 hours ago, LeG said: Things might not be so bad... Interesting...may be a couple back from injury? Maybe KWP injury not as bad as first feared?! Always going to be tough with this many players out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Obviously I don't have access to any intel unless I read this forum (which is one of the reasons I'm here -got sick of losing money by betting on hoping SFC would or could win just about every week.) I'm going $5 the draw this week after reading these posts about injuries and Arsenal not being at full strength last time, so thanks to all you pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 29 minutes ago, Shroppie said: You never disappoint with your deliberate miserable pessimism. Shame it gives you so much pleasure. Really don't know what you're doing on this forum. Clearly not a Saints fan. But we've known that for a long time Bit of a weird post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Full backs are so important in the modern game and to the way we play in particular. We're unlucky both look like they will be out at the same time. Going to be a big miss for us and will make it very tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 41 minutes ago, Shroppie said: You never disappoint with your deliberate miserable pessimism. Shame it gives you so much pleasure. Really don't know what you're doing on this forum. Clearly not a Saints fan. But we've known that for a long time Eh? Have you quoted the wrong post by mistake? If we all just posted what we want to happen obviously is to win, but an honest viewpoint that we're going to struggle due to players missing especially with Valery at right back explain why that's wrong ? Especially against an in form Arsenal with some of their best players rested on Saturday ready for this. We've scored ONE goal in our last five league games. Not sure who starts up front but can Ings do it all again so soon? He's not designed for 3 games a week. Our defensive record for the last month gives us our best hope of getting anything, I even mentioned Jack Stephens has an outside chance of an England call up if he keeps this up, but Arsenal have strong wide players that will target our weaknesses. Anyway I didn't expect anything against Liverpool and they proved me wrong so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 Pessimistic fuckers. Always fucking wrong except for when we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 8 hours ago, qwertyell said: Arsenal are in miles better form than us. 0-2. Yeah right, that's why we just beat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 January, 2021 Share Posted 25 January, 2021 I guess I’m in the miserable fookers camp as I think we’ll struggle to cope with even a less than convincing Arsenal side. If we manage to scrape a draw I’ll be surprised but happy. If somehow Ralph manages to pull a rabbit out and conjure a win, given the current injury crisis, I think I’ll start to believe he’s capable of walking on water! Looking forward with intrigue to see how we fair compared to Saturday. 1-3 Arse...hearts hoping for 1-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 (edited) Feel we need a few goals lead by half time in this one, especially looking knackered last time out in the last 30mins. A win here will create a good gap between us and the bottom half, said it before and we didn't take the chance. Hopefully this time. Edited 26 January, 2021 by skintsaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 love how people think vokins and valery have the ability of training cones for arsenal to dribble rings over. instead of moaning back the young lads to take their opportunity and support them. but got to love the enthusiasm here injuries havent stopped us from winning so why should it stop us now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 I only thing I'll be surprised about is if it's not a harder game than Saturday's was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 I thought Valery had a very good game last Tuesday. I thought his on the ball capabilities has improved (probably due to his time spent with with Boufal / Djenepo). Certainly not worried at all about two hungry young players flying down the wings, especially with Diallo and JWP covering the ground to protect those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 Interesting that Ralph made comments about Diallo could also play as a number ten or full back. I wonder if he’ll try either of those one Romeu is back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 I reckon it will be Diallo and Romeu in the middle with JWP at right back. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 OK ...so now we have both full backs out..What's new ? We've had absences all season and we are only half way in. Reading above, I see a lot of wailing, and gnashing of teeth and people pulling their hair out, but I've got no hair left to pull. The same scenario whenever someone new appears; Diallo, N'Lundulu and the youngsters who played in the Shrewsbury game. After the start of the season we had Vestergaard coming in looking like a brand new signing, and then Jack Stephens replaced him and is playing some of the best football of his career. Now it's the full backs, and if we are talking Valery and Vokins. Both are from the Academy, so they know what we are about and have been training with the first team for quite a while. They are not " boys " any longer, but young men looking to establish themselves in the best league in the World. We can recall Valery's contribution when Cedric was out, when he DAJFU and got himself a great goal at Old Trafford. Jake Vokins has had fewer chances, (but who wouldn't with Bertrand as first choice), but Jake has showed up well in the B team ..and is still improving. Now is their chance to show up, be seen and establish themselves as squad members. In this League it doesn't matter who the opposition are, every game is tough and if they are going to make it they have to start somewhere. Maybe I'm out of step with some of the critics, but I'm quite eager to see how they perform. COYR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Charlie Wayman Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 14 hours ago, saint77 said: Really are some fucking jokers on here sometimes Trying to be rational not emotional like you. Why not articulate your views why you think our much depleted side can avoid defeat tonight rather than resort to mindless expletives. Address the problem not the writer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 27 minutes ago, skintsaint said: I reckon it will be Diallo and Romeu in the middle with JWP at right back. Just a hunch. A good hunch too. Probably Ralph's only option in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 Diallo in front of Valery on the right? Armstrong is a fantastic player and incredibly important to Saints' positive play, but he looks knackered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fez Posted 26 January, 2021 Share Posted 26 January, 2021 Aubameyang definitely out https://www.arsenal.com/news/team-news-aubameyang-ceballos-mari-tierney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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