Lighthouse Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 Tuesday night game. CTRL + C, CTRL + V please Saints. 4 1
WALK DMC Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 14:24, trousers said: Same starting 11 for me Expand I don't think that the Premier league will let Bertrand play 🙂
trousers Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 14:26, WALK DMC said: I don't think that the Premier league will let Bertrand play 🙂 Expand Ah, fair point Ralph just said: "an opportunity for a few changes on Tuesday"
Baird of the land Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 Curious about the starting xi. Mccarthy in for Forster. Assume Vokins will be in for suspended Bertrand. Is Romeu going to be fit if so i'd be tempted to bring him in for Diallo(just to freshen midfield). Also know we've in the past had concerns regarding Armstrong's body handling these sharp turnarounds. Only really got Watts available though unless Redders is back fit.
JRM Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 We're not going to be able to make many changes anyway, was McCarthy just rested today? Potentially we bring in McCarthy, Vokins, Romeu if he's recovered. Ings looked knackered, might be better to have him on the bench and hope we can still be drawing after an hour and bring him on. Armstrong looked completely gone near the end as well. Josh Sims could come in with Walcott moving up front.
qwertyell Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 14:53, JRM said: Josh Sims could come in Expand Think the manager said Sims isn't part of their first team training "bubble" as yet. Don't see him playing any time soon, if ever (for us).
Pilchards Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 Let’s put our second team out and beat them again
JRM Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 15:09, qwertyell said: Think the manager said Sims isn't part of their first team training "bubble" as yet. Don't see him playing any time soon, if ever (for us). Expand I missed that, heard he'd returned from loan so assumed that was to boost our depleted squad, especially with Redmond, Djenepo and Tella out. Good chance by the time we play this game Villa will be above us, then defeat to Arsenal will see us in the bottom half. Will be strange waiting for the league table to flick over to page 2 on teletext to see our name.
sad saints fan Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 15:51, JRM said: I missed that, heard he'd returned from loan so assumed that was to boost our depleted squad, especially with Redmond, Djenepo and Tella out. Good chance by the time we play this game Villa will be above us, then defeat to Arsenal will see us in the bottom half. Will be strange waiting for the league table to flick over to page 2 on teletext to see our name. Expand 1
Appy Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 15:51, JRM said: I missed that, heard he'd returned from loan so assumed that was to boost our depleted squad, especially with Redmond, Djenepo and Tella out. Good chance by the time we play this game Villa will be above us, then defeat to Arsenal will see us in the bottom half. Will be strange waiting for the league table to flick over to page 2 on teletext to see our name. Expand Will be strange travelling back to 1999 to use teletext as well to be fair. 1
benjii Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 I'd be tempted to make a few changes. We looked tired in the second half today. Not just physically but also a bit tired mentally. Obviously Vokins will come in (and presumably McCarthy). I'd be tempted to start Romeu for JWP if he's fit. It's asking too much for JWP to play 90 minutes of every match. He seems to be a machine now but sooner or later it will catch up with him. I'd also bring in Valery on the right of midfield and give Armstrong or Walcott a rest (whichever we think is more tired). Long in for Adams. McCarthy KWP Bednarek Stephens Vokins Romeu Diallo Valery Walcott/Armstrong Ings Long Subs: Forster, Tchaepchet, Ramsey, JWP, Walcott/Armstrong, Adams, Nlundulu
Dorchester Saint Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 18:51, benjii said: I'd be tempted to make a few changes. We looked tired in the second half today. Not just physically but also a bit tired mentally. Obviously Vokins will come in (and presumably McCarthy). I'd be tempted to start Romeu for JWP if he's fit. It's asking too much for JWP to play 90 minutes of every match. He seems to be a machine now but sooner or later it will catch up with him. I'd also bring in Valery on the right of midfield and give Armstrong or Walcott a rest (whichever we think is more tired). Long in for Adams. McCarthy KWP Bednarek Stephens Vokins Romeu Diallo Valery Walcott/Armstrong Ings Long Subs: Forster, Tchaepchet, Ramsey, JWP, Walcott/Armstrong, Adams, Nlundulu Expand JWP hasn’t missed a game since 1956 or something, why would he not start this one? 1 1
Saint_clark Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 No chance JWP drops out. Any chance Vestergaard is back? If so we may see Stephens at left back again. 1
os862saints Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 What if we incorporated both Romeu (if fit) and Diallo and at the same time dropped one of Walcott/Armstrong to the bench to bring on in the 2nd half when we need that bit of quality in attack? McCarthy KWP Bednarek Stephens Vokins JWP Romeu Diallo Walcott/Armstrong Ings Adams Subs: Forster, Ramsey, Walcott/Armstrong, Long, Nlundulu
StrangelyBrown Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 21:25, Saint_clark said: No chance JWP drops out. Any chance Vestergaard is back? If so we may see Stephens at left back again. Expand Perhaps we'll see jwp at right back with kwp on the left?
Gingeletiss Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 22:21, StrangelyBrown said: Perhaps we'll see jwp at right back with kwp on the left? Expand Good move, play two of our best players out of position. 1
Hockey_saint Posted 23 January, 2021 Posted 23 January, 2021 Great result today. I think it's great that Ralph played a more senior team than I expected.
Matthew Le God Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 21:45, os862saints said: Subs: Forster, Ramsey, Walcott/Armstrong, Long, Nlundulu Expand You can have 9 subs in the Premier league, not 5. 😇
StrangelyBrown Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 23/01/2021 at 22:38, Gingeletiss said: Good move, play two of our best players out of position. Expand I didn't say it was a good idea...
CWD Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 08:47, LeG said: If Vokins isnt ready and Romeu is back, we could play Diallo at left back, with Romeu playing alongside JWP. Would rather see Vokins but its an option if needed. Expand Vokins will be 21 in a matter of weeks, and has always looked capable to me when he's played. If Ralph ends up playing Stephens, KWP or even Diallo at LB on Tuesday as you say, I'd really question Vokins' long term future at the club even at this early stage. If he really is a viable replacement for Bertrand in the future then he needs to be trusted to start in his absence. Hope he does, and hope he does well 👍 1
SoberSaint Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 Really don't understand why Sims isn't being considered as a sub. Relatively experienced player (albeit in lower divs) but ideal sub running at tired defenders.
StrangelyBrown Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 10:16, CWD said: Vokins will be 21 in a matter of weeks, and has always looked capable to me when he's played. If Ralph ends up playing Stephens, KWP or even Diallo at LB on Tuesday as you say, I'd really question Vokins' long term future at the club even at this early stage. If he really is a viable replacement for Bertrand in the future then he needs to be trusted to start in his absence. Hope he does, and hope he does well 👍 Expand I thought he was pretty anonymous against Shrewsbury and in a game like that should have stood out. It will be interesting to see whether he plays against the arse - he didn't really push on from a year or so ago when he looked a decent prospect and given he hasn't had many opportunities since he may have fallen out of favour.
VectisSaint Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 (edited) On 24/01/2021 at 10:49, SoberSaint said: Really don't understand why Sims isn't being considered as a sub. Relatively experienced player (albeit in lower divs) but ideal sub running at tired defenders. Expand Possibly because he's injured. 17th December, out for 6 weeks with hamstring injury, reported Darren Moore (https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-boss-delivers-injury-verdict-josh-sims-3071875) Edited 24 January, 2021 by VectisSaint
VectisSaint Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 10:53, StrangelyBrown said: I thought he was pretty anonymous against Shrewsbury and in a game like that should have stood out. It will be interesting to see whether he plays against the arse - he didn't really push on from a year or so ago when he looked a decent prospect and given he hasn't had many opportunities since he may have fallen out of favour. Expand Was taking the corners for a while. They weren't very good (though to be fair neither were JWP's when he took them later). Thought it was strange Vokins was taking them and not JWP, as did the commentators, unless it was all part of a plan to give him some experience. 1
BARCELONASAINT Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 If the Echo report is correct Ralph has pretty much stated none of the current injured players will be ready for Tuesday so it will be the same 11 apart from Bertrand who is suspended and McCarthy who will come back in. We have no strength in depth at all. Our current bench only weakens our side. Ndululu is just not ready to be playing premiership football and Long is past it. We are absolutely screwed if Ings or Che pick up a bad injury.
Matthew Le God Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 (edited) On 24/01/2021 at 11:29, BARCELONASAINT said: We have no strength in depth at all. Expand We do (in some positions), it is just we have a huge amount of injuries. You can't have a squad of 40 senior players just in case lots of the first 25 get injured. Edited 24 January, 2021 by Matthew Le God
Lighthouse Posted 24 January, 2021 Author Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 11:29, BARCELONASAINT said: If the Echo report is correct Ralph has pretty much stated none of the current injured players will be ready for Tuesday so it will be the same 11 apart from Bertrand who is suspended and McCarthy who will come back in. We have no strength in depth at all. Our current bench only weakens our side. Ndululu is just not ready to be playing premiership football and Long is past it. We are absolutely screwed if Ings or Che pick up a bad injury. Expand We aren’t screwed, don’t be so dramatic. Ings/Adams and N’Lundulu wouldn’t be our strongest attack but I’d take that over the days of playing Austin and Long as our first choice strikers. 1
Fabrice29 Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 (edited) On 24/01/2021 at 10:49, SoberSaint said: Really don't understand why Sims isn't being considered as a sub. Relatively experienced player (albeit in lower divs) but ideal sub running at tired defenders. Expand He's nowhere near as good as some people on here think he is, and having watched him coming on as a sub at Reading a few times, I can assure you he's not an ideal sub at all. The sooner he gets a permanent move the better for him. Edited 24 January, 2021 by Fabrice29 1
Matthew Le God Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 12:44, igsey said: Did I read Aubameyang is out for this one? Expand We don't know what you have and haven't read. 😉👼 1 2
Appy Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 12:44, igsey said: Did I read Aubameyang is out for this one? Expand Arteta said he isn’t sure if his personal issue will be sorted by Tuesday.
Dusic Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 (edited) The LB selection will be interesting. If it isn't Vokins then that will be very telling about Ralph's view on him. Otherwise I don't see many changes as quite simply there aren't any we can make that don't reduce out chances of a win. Sounds like some of the injured players will be back soon, so if anyone needs a rest then wait til they can come in. Edited 24 January, 2021 by Dusic
Manuel Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 11:29, BARCELONASAINT said: If the Echo report is correct Ralph has pretty much stated none of the current injured players will be ready for Tuesday so it will be the same 11 apart from Bertrand who is suspended and McCarthy who will come back in. We have no strength in depth at all. Our current bench only weakens our side. Ndululu is just not ready to be playing premiership football and Long is past it. We are absolutely screwed if Ings or Che pick up a bad injury. Expand Personally I thought Tella showed more promise than N'Lundulu, the little I've seen. I wouldn't mind seeing more of him, although I guess N'Lundulu is a more like-for-like replacement for Adams. 1
Saint Pete Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 16:36, Dusic said: The LB selection will be interesting. If it isn't Vokins then that will be very telling about Ralph's view on him. Otherwise I don't see many changes as quite simply there aren't any we can make that don't reduce out chances of a win. Sounds like some of the injured players will be back soon, so if anyone needs a rest then wait til they can come in. Expand I really hope he does go with Vokins rather than shifting players around and weakening other positions to be honest. 1
Pamplemousse Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 Yeah, got to be Vokins. I'm sure if Djenepo or Redmond were fit, Ralph might go full Pep and put one of them at LWB... Hopefully same performance and same result, whatever the team.
Saint Garrett Posted 24 January, 2021 Posted 24 January, 2021 Can’t see it being much different to this: Mccarthy; KWP Bednarek Stephens Vokins; Diallo JWP; Walcott Ings Adams Armstrong Hopefully get 1 or 2 back on the bench. 1
Saint Pete Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 19:23, Saint Garrett said: Can’t see it being much different to this: Mccarthy; KWP Bednarek Stephens Vokins; Diallo JWP; Walcott Ings Adams Armstrong Hopefully get 1 or 2 back on the bench. Expand Armstrong is the one I could see being rested in normal circumstances and he did look knackered towards the end on Saturday. But if none of Redmond, Djenepo, Tella or Romeu are still fit enough to start options to do that don't look appealing!
Totton Saint Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 On 24/01/2021 at 16:36, Dusic said: The LB selection will be interesting. If it isn't Vokins then that will be very telling about Ralph's view on him. Otherwise I don't see many changes as quite simply there aren't any we can make that don't reduce out chances of a win. Sounds like some of the injured players will be back soon, so if anyone needs a rest then wait til they can come in. Expand JWP kept Sala quiet at LB vs Crystal Plalace
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 (edited) On 25/01/2021 at 11:28, Totton Saint said: JWP kept Sala quiet at LB vs Crystal Plalace Expand Edited 25 January, 2021 by Matthew Le God
Toussaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 (edited) On 25/01/2021 at 11:28, Totton Saint said: JWP kept Sala quiet at LB vs Crystal Plalace Expand Yo mean Zaha I think? JWP is too much of a loss from midfield to put there, it would be different if Romeau was fit, but I can't see it as we stand. Edited 25 January, 2021 by Toussaint
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 On 25/01/2021 at 12:35, Toussaint said: Yo mean Saha I think? Expand Zaha
Toussaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 On 25/01/2021 at 12:36, Matthew Le God said: Zaha Expand That's what I said
disconnect Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 No chance of Valery at right back and KWP at left back? I thought he'd played there a few times for Spurs?
Wimborne_saint Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 (edited) KWP injured in training and is a major doubt for tomorrow (quad injury). Redmond will be back in the squad on the bench. Romeu not ready for Arsenal but will be an option for the weekend. Edited 25 January, 2021 by Wimborne_saint
S-Clarke Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 So it'll be Valery then, awesome. Should be a game to watch from behind the sofa. Saka will have him for dinner and then finish him off for desert. Whoever is in front of Valery will need to be tracking back and then some. 1
beatlesaint Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 On 25/01/2021 at 13:38, S-Clarke said: So it'll be Valery then, awesome. Should be a game to watch from behind the sofa. Saka will have him for dinner and then finish him off for desert. Whoever is in front of Valery will need to be tracking back and then some. Expand Oh joy 😱
northam soul Posted 25 January, 2021 Posted 25 January, 2021 So 2 inexperienced full backs tomorrow, let’s hope we take any chances that come our way. KWP will be a big miss
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