Sarisbury Saint Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: We don't need 'flair' from the two defensive midfielders, it isn't their role in the system for that. It is the front four and fullbacks where the flair should be. Not often I agree with you, but that’s exactly how it should be. Although it wouldn’t harm to try and add assists now and then, particularly when nothing else is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: We don't need 'flair' from the two defensive midfielders, it isn't their role in the system for that. It is the front four and fullbacks where the flair should be. Absolutely, it's not their job. Need more from Redmond, Theo, Moussa, Tella etc - it's their job to pop up in behind, or get to the byline etc. Sadly, bar Armstrong and Tella, our wide/attacking midfield options are truly diabolical. If only we had the funds to spend a little bit on an attacking player. Christ, there are so many holes in this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 People said the same thing about Hojbjerg, his shooting was shit, he didn’t score enough goals…etc….but you know what, stick him in a defensive midfield position and he is excellent. He is very good at what he’s good at. With 4 “forwards” we shouldn’t be reliant on a DM to create chances, and score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Absolutely, it's not their job. Need more from Redmond, Theo, Moussa, Tella etc - it's their job to pop up in behind, or get to the byline etc. Sadly, bar Armstrong and Tella, our wide/attacking midfield options are truly diabolical. If only we had the funds to spend a little bit on an attacking player. Christ, there are so many holes in this team. To be fair i thought Djenepo did alright on saturday. His problem is he always tries to take an extra touch. A couple of times on saturday he showed great skill to beat a man or two but then ended up taking an extra touch rather than cross or pass and lost it. He's got it in him to do it just needs to get his decision making better. Walcott was awful though and Redmond enough said. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: To be fair i thought Djenepo did alright on saturday. His problem is he always tries to take an extra touch. A couple of times on saturday he showed great skill to beat a man or two but then ended up taking an extra touch rather than cross or pass and lost it. He's got it in him to do it just needs to get his decision making better. Walcott was awful though and Redmond enough said. Fair point about Moussa, but he has had 2 years here already and should be making far better decisions. Im really not convinced he will make here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Absolutely, it's not their job. Need more from Redmond, Theo, Moussa, Tella etc - it's their job to pop up in behind, or get to the byline etc. Sadly, bar Armstrong and Tella, our wide/attacking midfield options are truly diabolical. If only we had the funds to spend a little bit on an attacking player. Christ, there are so many holes in this team. I agree that we don't need flair from our two x 6's, but the way they play don't help us dictate play. When Armstrong played in there, he played with no more flair as such, but he broke forward with the ball and gave an extra dimension to our play. Diallo has the ability to do that to a limited extent, but JWP and Romeu don't have it in their lockers. The problem with Armstrong as a 6 of course is that if he's in there, we lose him as a 10. Yep, many holes in this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 31 minutes ago, Turkish said: To be fair i thought Djenepo did alright on saturday. His problem is he always tries to take an extra touch. A couple of times on saturday he showed great skill to beat a man or two but then ended up taking an extra touch rather than cross or pass and lost it. He's got it in him to do it just needs to get his decision making better. Walcott was awful though and Redmond enough said. That's the thing though isn't it, he can do as many stepovers, tricks and skills as he likes, but if it ultimately ends up with him either giving the ball away or falling over then it's all pretty pointless. I can't see is decision making changing, this is his third season here and there are still the same problems/question marks over him. Such a shame we still had Ross when we bought Moussa for about £15m. If we had a more capable scouting setup at that time we may have spent £16m on Saint-Maximin instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 Oddly with Moussa, I thought he was at his best when he arrived. I think he's one of those who needs less management and is left to do his own thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 4 hours ago, Manuel said: Oddly with Moussa, I thought he was at his best when he arrived. I think he's one of those who needs less management and is left to do his own thing. Maybe not that odd. Gabbi came in and was one fire and then we seem to coach it out of him, Moussa too, here's hoping that the same doesn't happen with AA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 16 August, 2021 Share Posted 16 August, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: We don't need 'flair' from the two defensive midfielders, it isn't their role in the system for that. It is the front four and fullbacks where the flair should be. Only having any sort of creative threat from out wide is probably why so many teams find us easy to keep out once they've gone ahead. Edited 16 August, 2021 by verlaine1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, verlaine1979 said: Only having any sort of creative threat from out wide is probably why so many teams find us easy to keep out once they've gone ahead. It isn't only out wide. I said the strikers, number 10s and fullbacks. The fullbacks create the width, the others are narrow. The two 'number 10s' in the 4222 aren't wingers. Edited 17 August, 2021 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: It isn't only our wide. I said the strikers, number 10s and fullbacks. The fullbacks create the width, the others are narrow. The two 'number 10s' in the 4222 aren't wingers. But some creativity or running between the lines from our 6's wouldn't hurt. We had running from there when Armstrong played as a 6 which added a dimension to our play. We even had more creativity from Vestergaard as a CB than our 6's gave us. Is it that our 6's aren't there to create, or rather that they aren't creative players? Seems odd that 6's would be instructed not to create, but a CB is left to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, egg said: But some creativity or running between the lines from our 6's wouldn't hurt. We had running from there when Armstrong played as a 6 which added a dimension to our play. We even had more creativity from Vestergaard as a CB than our 6's gave us. Is it that our 6's aren't there to create, or rather that they aren't creative players? Seems odd that 6's would be instructed not to create, but a CB is left to do so. We did have this, and Armstrong whilst being ok in this role, also got caught out a number of times, with at least one of the occasions he ran too much with the ball that lead to a goal, cant recall who it was against though. I think that is ok to try, but their primary job is to shield, something I think we lacked since Morgan and Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 17 hours ago, Billy the Kidd said: Fair point about Moussa, but he has had 2 years here already and should be making far better decisions. Im really not convinced he will make here. Decision making comes with consistent game time (if at all) - the fact Redmond has been a guaranteed starter for so long and nobody else has been given the same opportunity to show they can improve is absolutely disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 Although S Armstrong was decent at CM, I wouldn't want him playing there through choice. He offers very little defensively and can get excited and get tackled. Thats not the CM's job in this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Decision making comes with consistent game time (if at all) - the fact Redmond has been a guaranteed starter for so long and nobody else has been given the same opportunity to show they can improve is absolutely disgusting. Not sure I agree, Moussa has had plenty of chances, irrespective of Redmond, and failed to improve in 2 years. The failure is we still have both at the club in my opinion, but imagine that will be addressed next summer. Along with the GK’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 Just now, Billy the Kidd said: Not sure I agree, Moussa has had plenty of chances, irrespective of Redmond, and failed to improve in 2 years. The failure is we still have both at the club in my opinion, but imagine that will be addressed next summer. Along with the GK’s. I bet there aren't many instances of Djenepo getting two starts in a row, let alone 4, 5, 6 starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 25 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: I bet there aren't many instances of Djenepo getting two starts in a row, let alone 4, 5, 6 starts. 19/20 Season: Matchday Date Venue For Opponent Result Pos. Squad: 21, Starting eleven: 10, Substituted in: 8, On the bench: 3, Suspended: 0, Injured: 13 1 8/10/19 A (18.) Burnley (4.) 3:0 on the bench 2 8/17/19 H (18.) Liverpool (3.) 1:2 LM 84' 13' 3 8/24/19 A (19.) Brighton (5.) 0:2 LW 1 63' 36' 4 8/31/19 H (18.) Man Utd (5.) 1:1 Knock 5 9/14/19 A (13.) Sheff Utd (10.) 0:1 AM 1 74' 6 9/20/19 H (10.) Bournemouth (9.) 1:3 Knock 7 9/28/19 A (13.) Spurs (7.) 2:1 Knock 8 10/6/19 H (14.) Chelsea (7.) 1:4 Knock 9 10/19/19 A (17.) Wolves (11.) 1:1 Knock 10 10/25/19 H (17.) Leicester (3.) 0:9 Knock 11 11/2/19 A (18.) Man City (2.) 2:1 SS 6' 12 11/9/19 H (18.) Everton (17.) 1:2 LW 90' 13 11/23/19 A (19.) Arsenal (6.) 2:2 AM 14' 14 11/30/19 H (19.) Watford (20.) 2:1 RW 1 90' 15 12/4/19 H (18.) Norwich (19.) 2:1 RW 59' 72' 16 12/8/19 A (17.) Newcastle (11.) 2:1 RW 73' 17 12/14/19 H (18.) West Ham (16.) 0:1 RW 90' 18 12/21/19 A (18.) Aston Villa (17.) 1:3 Thigh Muscle Strain 19 12/26/19 A (17.) Chelsea (4.) 0:2 Thigh Muscle Strain 20 12/28/19 H (14.) Crystal Palace (9.) 1:1 LW 27' 21 1/1/20 H (15.) Spurs (6.) 1:0 LW 53' 58' 22 1/11/20 A (12.) Leicester (2.) 1:2 LW 12' 23 1/18/20 H (12.) Wolves (7.) 2:3 19' 24 1/21/20 A (13.) Crystal Palace (9.) 0:2 on the bench 25 2/1/20 A (9.) Liverpool (1.) 4:0 LW 82' 26 2/15/20 H (13.) Burnley (11.) 1:2 51' 27 2/22/20 H (12.) Aston Villa (17.) 2:0 LW 1 90' 28 2/29/20 A (12.) West Ham (18.) 3:1 not in squad 29 3/7/20 H (13.) Newcastle (14.) 0:1 LW 28' 28' 30 6/19/20 A (14.) Norwich (20.) 0:3 not in squad 31 6/25/20 H (14.) Arsenal (10.) 0:2 not in squad 32 6/28/20 A (14.) Watford (16.) 1:3 not in squad 33 7/5/20 H (14.) Man City (2.) 1:0 on the bench 34 7/9/20 A (13.) Everton (11.) 1:1 Calf Strain 35 7/13/20 A (12.) Man Utd (5.) 2:2 Calf Strain 36 7/16/20 H (12.) Brighton (15.) 1:1 Calf Strain 37 7/19/20 A (12.) Bournemouth (18.) 0:2 Calf Strain 38 7/26/20 H (12.) Sheff Utd (8.) 3:1 Calf Strain 20/21 Season: Matchday Date Venue For Opponent Result Pos. Squad: 34, Starting eleven: 15, Substituted in: 12, On the bench: 7, Suspended: 0, Injured: 4 1 9/12/20 A (13.) Crystal Palace (8.) 1:0 LW 13' 2 9/20/20 H (13.) Spurs (14.) 2:5 LW 90' 3 9/26/20 A (19.) Burnley (15.) 0:1 LW 77' 4 10/4/20 H (15.) West Brom (17.) 2:0 LW 1 50' 55' 5 10/17/20 A (12.) Chelsea (7.) 3:3 Hamstring Injury 6 10/25/20 H (13.) Everton (1.) 2:0 Hamstring Injury 7 11/1/20 A (8.) Aston Villa (4.) 3:4 on the bench 8 11/6/20 H (6.) Newcastle (11.) 2:0 LW 74' 9 11/23/20 A (4.) Wolves (11.) 1:1 LW 79' 10 11/29/20 H (5.) Man Utd (7.) 2:3 LW 72' 11 12/7/20 A (8.) Brighton (16.) 1:2 LW 13' 45' 12 12/13/20 H (7.) Sheff Utd (20.) 3:0 on the bench 13 12/16/20 A (4.) Arsenal (15.) 1:1 RW 27' 14 12/19/20 H (4.) Man City (6.) 0:1 LW 59' 15 12/26/20 A (9.) Fulham (18.) 0:0 LW 1' 16 12/29/20 H (9.) West Ham (10.) 0:0 LW 72' 78' 17 1/4/21 H (9.) Liverpool (1.) 1:0 RM 32' 19 1/16/21 A (8.) Leicester (3.) 2:0 Thigh Muscle Strain 20 1/26/21 H (10.) Arsenal (11.) 1:3 Thigh Muscle Strain 21 1/30/21 H (12.) Aston Villa (8.) 0:1 RW 31' 22 2/2/21 A (12.) Man Utd (2.) 9:0 RW 78' 23 2/6/21 A (13.) Newcastle (17.) 3:2 on the bench 24 2/14/21 H (12.) Wolves (14.) 1:2 28' 25 2/20/21 H (13.) Chelsea (4.) 1:1 RW 90' 18 2/23/21 A (7.) Leeds (12.) 3:0 83' 20' 26 3/1/21 A (14.) Everton (6.) 1:0 LM 90' 27 3/6/21 A (14.) Sheff Utd (20.) 0:2 2' 33 3/10/21 A (13.) Man City (1.) 5:2 LW 45' 28 3/14/21 H (13.) Brighton (17.) 1:2 LW 22' 30 4/4/21 H (14.) Burnley (15.) 3:2 3' 31 4/12/21 A (13.) West Brom (19.) 3:0 3' 29 4/21/21 A (14.) Spurs (7.) 2:1 87' 23' 34 4/30/21 H (13.) Leicester (3.) 1:1 on the bench 35 5/8/21 A (13.) Liverpool (6.) 2:0 11' 32 5/11/21 H (14.) Crystal Palace (13.) 3:1 on the bench 36 5/15/21 H (14.) Fulham (18.) 3:1 on the bench 37 5/18/21 H (14.) Leeds (10.) 0:2 LW 90' 38 5/23/21 A (14.) West Ham (6.) 3:0 on the bench Redmond: 20/21 Season: Matchday Date Venue For Opponent Result Pos. Squad: 30, Starting eleven: 17, Substituted in: 12, On the bench: 1, Suspended: 0, Injured: 8 1 9/12/20 A (13.) Crystal Palace (8.) 1:0 LW 90' 2 9/20/20 H (13.) Spurs (14.) 2:5 Ankle Injury 3 9/26/20 A (19.) Burnley (15.) 0:1 Ankle Injury 4 10/4/20 H (15.) West Brom (17.) 2:0 LW 35' 5 10/17/20 A (12.) Chelsea (7.) 3:3 LW 77' 6 10/25/20 H (13.) Everton (1.) 2:0 LW 90' 7 11/1/20 A (8.) Aston Villa (4.) 3:4 on the bench 8 11/6/20 H (6.) Newcastle (11.) 2:0 LW 16' 9 11/23/20 A (4.) Wolves (11.) 1:1 Hamstring Injury 10 11/29/20 H (5.) Man Utd (7.) 2:3 Hamstring Injury 11 12/7/20 A (8.) Brighton (16.) 1:2 LW 21' 12 12/13/20 H (7.) Sheff Utd (20.) 3:0 LW 1 10' 13 12/16/20 A (4.) Arsenal (15.) 1:1 LW 27' 14 12/19/20 H (4.) Man City (6.) 0:1 LW 31' 15 12/26/20 A (9.) Fulham (18.) 0:0 Knock 16 12/29/20 H (9.) West Ham (10.) 0:0 Knock 17 1/4/21 H (9.) Liverpool (1.) 1:0 Knock 19 1/16/21 A (8.) Leicester (3.) 2:0 Knock 20 1/26/21 H (10.) Arsenal (11.) 1:3 23' 21 1/30/21 H (12.) Aston Villa (8.) 0:1 SS 90' 22 2/2/21 A (12.) Man Utd (2.) 9:0 20' 23 2/6/21 A (13.) Newcastle (17.) 3:2 RW 90' 24 2/14/21 H (12.) Wolves (14.) 1:2 CF 90' 25 2/20/21 H (13.) Chelsea (4.) 1:1 SS 1 90' 18 2/23/21 A (7.) Leeds (12.) 3:0 SS 58' 26 3/1/21 A (14.) Everton (6.) 1:0 RM 88' 27 3/6/21 A (14.) Sheff Utd (20.) 0:2 SS 13' 33 3/10/21 A (13.) Man City (1.) 5:2 SS 90' 28 3/14/21 H (13.) Brighton (17.) 1:2 RW 25' 30 4/4/21 H (14.) Burnley (15.) 3:2 SS 1 1 90' 31 4/12/21 A (13.) West Brom (19.) 3:0 SS 90' 29 4/21/21 A (14.) Spurs (7.) 2:1 6' 34 4/30/21 H (13.) Leicester (3.) 1:1 LW 90' 35 5/8/21 A (13.) Liverpool (6.) 2:0 LW 61' 90' 32 5/11/21 H (14.) Crystal Palace (13.) 3:1 RM 1 90' 36 5/15/21 H (14.) Fulham (18.) 3:1 RM 90' 37 5/18/21 H (14.) Leeds (10.) 0:2 RW 20' 38 5/23/21 A (14.) West Ham (6.) 3:0 LW 90' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 4 hours ago, Billy the Kidd said: Not sure I agree, Moussa has had plenty of chances, irrespective of Redmond, and failed to improve in 2 years. The failure is we still have both at the club in my opinion, but imagine that will be addressed next summer. Along with the GK’s. It’ll be too late at that point. If we don’t add some quality in one of the attacking midfield positions and in goal (as well as a CB), we’re down this year. I can only see one of those coming in and no doubt it’ll be a cheapy from the championship, so yes, too late, we’re down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy the Kidd Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dman said: It’ll be too late at that point. If we don’t add some quality in one of the attacking midfield positions and in goal (as well as a CB), we’re down this year. I can only see one of those coming in and no doubt it’ll be a cheapy from the championship, so yes, too late, we’re down. Well, we dont have a bottomless pit, you know that as well as I do, and they are plugging more pressing gaps. Not ideal, and maybe youre right, but we may just hang in there. Anyhow, I thought Redmond was the new Henry, or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dman said: It’ll be too late at that point. If we don’t add some quality in one of the attacking midfield positions and in goal (as well as a CB), we’re down this year. I can only see one of those coming in and no doubt it’ll be a cheapy from the championship, so yes, too late, we’re down. We have plenty of holes in the squad, but the priority is CB. That needs to be sorted. I reckon we may get a sneaky loan in come the end of the window to cover full back and CM - I think we have our feelers out for a versatile type. GK, as frustrating as it is, will be addressed next year as the club have said. It's purely financial reasons. Edited 17 August, 2021 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 17 August, 2021 Share Posted 17 August, 2021 13 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: It isn't only out wide. I said the strikers, number 10s and fullbacks. The fullbacks create the width, the others are narrow. The two 'number 10s' in the 4222 aren't wingers. I'd love to see heatmaps for Walcott and Djenepo from Saturday. Suspect they'd show both of them spending almost the entire game near their respective touchlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 20 August, 2021 Share Posted 20 August, 2021 On 17/08/2021 at 21:59, verlaine1979 said: I'd love to see heatmaps for Walcott and Djenepo from Saturday. Suspect they'd show both of them spending almost the entire game near their respective touchlines. Found it for you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 On 17/08/2021 at 02:06, Matthew Le God said: It isn't only out wide. I said the strikers, number 10s and fullbacks. The fullbacks create the width, the others are narrow. The two 'number 10s' in the 4222 aren't wingers. On 17/08/2021 at 15:59, verlaine1979 said: I'd love to see heatmaps for Walcott and Djenepo from Saturday. Suspect they'd show both of them spending almost the entire game near their respective touchlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Someone should tell those two that they aren't meant to be wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 hours ago, verlaine1979 said: Someone should tell those two that they aren't meant to be wingers. Disagree. They should stay wide and the full backs make runs inside of them . Has dual benefit of stretching the opposition defence wider and slightly reducing distance the full backs need to cover to keep goalside of opposition when they have to get back in a hurry. Trouble is Djneppo and Walcott aren't very effective themselves either as wingers or covering the full backs/narrowing the midfield when defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just scored a worldy overhead ……git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Lovely goal 😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Hes found his spiritual home I expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 One man team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Mings to Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 That will cause a hamstring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Cunt. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 With our reported £7million signing of a bang average CB, we now sold Ings for the equivalent of £18million 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGTL said: With our reported £7million signing of a bang average CB, we now sold Ings for the equivalent of £18million 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Let me put it another way. We’re about to waste £7million on a bang average CB so had may as well have sold Ings for £18million. Compute that, you boring whopper. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, LGTL said: Let me put it another way. We’re about to waste £7million on a bang average CB so had may as well have sold Ings for £18million. Compute that, you boring whopper. Ings was £30m by all accounts, this guy will be less than £5m. It only means we may as well have sold Ings for £18m (£25m more like) if this guy had 0 value. He doesn't, £5m is probably fair for him, it's just a shame we aren't spending more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGTL said: Let me put it another way. We’re about to waste £7million on a bang average CB so had may as well have sold Ings for £18million. Compute that, you boring whopper. Don’t forget all the agents fees and bonuses that we, unlike any other club, have to pay. By the time you’ve factored those in we probably made a loss on the deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Inevitable in many ways with Danny as is the spell on the treatment table on the horizon - that's the test for Aston Villa and their fans in terms of their investment of a large chunk of Grealish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Don’t forget all the agents fees and bonuses that we, unlike any other club, can't afford. By the time you’ve factored those in we probably made a loss on the deal Corrected it for you Del. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, egg said: Corrected it for you Del. 4th lowest agents fees in the premier league 🤷🏾♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Not even our best ever Danny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: 4th lowest agents fees in the premier league 🤷🏾♀️ Is that live data for what we've spent on shifting the turds, and our signings? 10% loyalty payments? Signing on fees? Etc. You're a bright fella, you know the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, egg said: Is that live data for what we've spent on shifting the turds, and our signings? 10% loyalty payments? Signing on fees? Etc. You're a bright fella, you know the reality. Yep I know the reality, it’s something every club has to pay, it’s part of every deal and we regularly used to boast about how we don’t let agents take the piss. So I don’t get why it’s such a massive issue for us and no one else, given we usually end up making a profit from player trading, unlike anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: Not even our best ever Danny... Behind Higginbotham for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Behind Higginbotham for sure I wonder if Dani Osvaldo qualifies for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Turkish said: Behind Higginbotham for sure And of course Butterfield too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, OttawaSaint said: And of course Butterfield too... Seaborne Top player would walk into the team now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 Just now, Turkish said: Seaborne Top player would walk into the team now Jesus! Ings isn’t even top 5. He’s probably the worst Danny we’ve ever had! inb4 MLG gets his stats and gifs in order... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 21 August, 2021 Share Posted 21 August, 2021 1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said: Jesus! Ings isn’t even top 5. He’s probably the worst Danny we’ve ever had! inb4 MLG gets his stats and gifs in order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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