Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, LGTL said: It was officially announced on the OS in the RH interview article after the game yesterday. All very odd as you say, he must have fucked off a few people. I do the think the speed with which the transfer happened will have blindsided the comms team a bit. They'll have had a choice of working extra hours to get a dedicated story out, or just work something up quickly from Ralph's interview. No brainer really. Edited 5 August, 2021 by Ex Lion Tamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Happy to see him go. That he’s failed to attract one of the big clubs tells me that he’s only interested in the money and that none of them wanted him. It’s fair enough to chase the pay at this late stage in his career, although he’s already so well paid that it smacks of greed. He’s on the downward path, already not the player he was 2 years ago and he misses too much game time due to injury. If the club spend the money wisely we could be better off without him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Do we think Ings has had a touch of the Fontes? .....meaning, thought he was going to get the big "step-up" move to Manchester, when that didn't happen he feels he has burned his bridges and / or feels too proud to back down, and just takes the best contract on offer (West Ham, Villa) even though it's more of a sideways than upwards move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 7 hours ago, SKD said: Honestly not surprised, you could tell from his body language and performance his head wasn’t in it any more. I called this out a few weeks back and was obviously called a troll. Goal posts moved because he couldn’t get a top 4 club I expect. The reason you have been called a troll, although I don't recall when (and no, you don't need to point it out) is that you are a high volume purveyor of mostly inconsistent rubbish with not the slightest positive thing to say about the players, the club or anybody associated with it. Whatever happens is negative. Obviously such pessimism makes you happy: I think it's called masochism and a friend of mine knows a dominatrix somewhere in Shirley. I'm sure she could get into Saints kit and screw-in studs for you.. 3 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 minute ago, suewhistle said: The reason you have been called a troll, although I don't recall when (and no, you don't need to point it out) is that you are a high volume purveyor of mostly inconsistent rubbish with not the slightest positive thing to say about the players, the club or anybody associated with it. Whatever happens is negative. Obviously such pessimism makes you happy: I think it's called masochism and a friend of mine knows a dominatrix somewhere in Shirley. I'm sure she could get into Saints kit and screw-in studs for you.. Good post. Pretty sure he's one of Heisenburg's alts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Professor said: Happy to see him go. That he’s failed to attract one of the big clubs tells me that he’s only interested in the money and that none of them wanted him. It’s fair enough to chase the pay at this late stage in his career, although he’s already so well paid that it smacks of greed. What a load of old pony. Professionally, he’s better off at Villa than the shit storm at our club. Once he couldn’t get a move to a top top club, he had 2 options. Stay at a club in decline or sign for one that clearly have more prospects of success than us. No doubt he or his agent would have discussed their ambitions and their plans for him together with how they see the club moving forward. What’s our pitch to him, “stay and fight relegation”. Anyone who believes it’s only about the money is deluding themselves. Edited 5 August, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I do the think the speed with which the transfer happened will have blindsided the comms team a bit. They'll have had a choice of working extra hours to get a dedicated story out, or just work something up quickly from Ralph's interview. No brainer really. What was stopping them putting up a quick article announcing his departure? The Ralph article is just the managers feedback on it, not the official club stance. No official club wishes or thanks in any of that. Something sour went on I think. For a club like Southampton, not known to kick up a fuss and always play by the book, to not even say 'goodbye' is probably a damming indictment of what has played out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What a load of old pony. Professionally, he’s better off at Villa than the shit storm at our club. Once he couldn’t get a move to a top top club, he had 2 options. Stay at a club in decline or sign for one that clearly have more prospects of success than us. No doubt he or his agent would have discussed their ambitions and their plans for him together with how they see the club moving forward. What’s our pitch to him, “stay and fight relegation”. Anyone who believes it’s only about the money is deluding themselves. Yeah this is spot on. Didn’t get the move he really wanted but was desperate to get out of a relegation fight, as you say, join a club trying to go somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Noodles34 said: Yeah this is spot on. Didn’t get the move he really wanted but was desperate to get out of a relegation fight, as you say, join a club trying to go somewhere Not seen you for ages hun, you okay? ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Have I missed something or have we still not officially announced this? Obviously it's happened, I just don't quite understand why we haven't done the usual ''we thank Danny for his efforts with us etc''. It's all very odd. I think you're right. Even Lallana got words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What a load of old pony. Professionally, he’s better off at Villa than the shit storm at our club. Once he couldn’t get a move to a top top club, he had 2 options. Stay at a club in decline or sign for one that clearly have more prospects of success than us. No doubt he or his agent would have discussed their ambitions and their plans for him together with how they see the club moving forward. What’s our pitch to him, “stay and fight relegation”. Anyone who believes it’s only about the money is deluding themselves. Allegedly he was in talks with Spurs but they wouldn’t match his salary expectations. So if it’s about the money why did he not end up there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: What performances were happening "a few weeks back"? Beach football? Fuck knows why people are pretending that Danny Ings leaving this summer is some great big shock, especially when it is exactly the same people going on and on about what a shit club with no ambition we are. When did I say the performance was a few weeks back? Nice try though. FWIW I’ve said it a few times. Called him and Bertrand a cancer due to their negative attitudes, given the lack of send off (in ings case) by the club, it appears I may have not been far from the truth. I’m not sure any are shocked he’s left, it’s shock at where he’s gone. We were told all along it’d only be top 4 etc… not sure why that’s so difficult for you to comprehend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 He’s gone to a club showing some ambition from a club showing none. He’s gone to a club that’s likely to push top 8 from a club that’s going to be lucky to stay out the bottom 3. How can anyone blame him. You wouldn’t stay in a workplace that’s likely to struggle when the opportunity arises to move into a more stable environment for more money.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, SKD said: When did I say the performance was a few weeks back? Nice try though. FWIW I’ve said it a few times. Called him and Bertrand a cancer due to their negative attitudes, given the lack of send off (in ings case) by the club, it appears I may have not been far from the truth. I’m not sure any are shocked he’s left, it’s shock at where he’s gone. We were told all along it’d only be top 4 etc… not sure why that’s so difficult for you to comprehend? I can see why you would object to people with a negative attitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, SKD said: When did I say the performance was a few weeks back? Nice try though. FWIW I’ve said it a few times. Called him and Bertrand a cancer due to their negative attitudes, given the lack of send off (in ings case) by the club, it appears I may have not been far from the truth. I’m not sure any are shocked he’s left, it’s shock at where he’s gone. We were told all along it’d only be top 4 etc… not sure why that’s so difficult for you to comprehend? 7 minutes ago, SKD said: When did I say the performance was a few weeks back? Nice try though. FWIW I’ve said it a few times. Called him and Bertrand a cancer due to their negative attitudes, given the lack of send off (in ings case) by the club, it appears I may have not been far from the truth. I’m not sure any are shocked he’s left, it’s shock at where he’s gone. We were told all along it’d only be top 4 etc… not sure why that’s so difficult for you to comprehend? What a first class prick you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What was stopping them putting up a quick article announcing his departure? The Ralph article is just the managers feedback on it, not the official club stance. No official club wishes or thanks in any of that. Something sour went on I think. For a club like Southampton, not known to kick up a fuss and always play by the book, to not even say 'goodbye' is probably a damming indictment of what has played out. It's August, maybe the article writer is on holiday somewhere with no access to their emails? I'm sure someone will knock something up in the next week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, Weston Super Saint said: It's August, maybe the article writer is on holiday somewhere with no access to their emails? I'm sure someone will knock something up in the next week or two. He’s gone. Why would we need to do anything? No rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: He’s gone. Why would we need to do anything? No rush. It's like an obituary, probably should say a couple of words, little bit of praise, but no rush as being quick off the mark isn't going to affect anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 35 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What a load of old pony. Professionally, he’s better off at Villa than the shit storm at our club. Once he couldn’t get a move to a top top club, he had 2 options. Stay at a club in decline or sign for one that clearly have more prospects of success than us. No doubt he or his agent would have discussed their ambitions and their plans for him together with how they see the club moving forward. What’s our pitch to him, “stay and fight relegation”. Anyone who believes it’s only about the money is deluding themselves. Can I remind you we topped the league last season and got to Wembley, we might not be great but we're not as bad as some clubs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Ah well. Someone clearly burned their bridges. I did say on Saturday whilst watching the Swansea game that he didn't look like he could be arsed to be there. Let's see if he picks up an 'injury' leading up to November 6th.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ 50% defensive ? Can't tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 minute ago, badgerx16 said: 50% defensive ? Can't tell. Hopefully this season it will increase to 75% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 43 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What a load of old pony. Professionally, he’s better off at Villa than the shit storm at our club. Once he couldn’t get a move to a top top club, he had 2 options. Stay at a club in decline or sign for one that clearly have more prospects of success than us. No doubt he or his agent would have discussed their ambitions and their plans for him together with how they see the club moving forward. What’s our pitch to him, “stay and fight relegation”. Anyone who believes it’s only about the money is deluding themselves. Who’s to say he won’t be fighting relegation with Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: 50% defensive ? Can't tell. The 20% shit part must be Redmond's shooting practice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: 50% defensive ? Can't tell. Ha. Exactly my response! I questioned his source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Deal first discussed Sunday ings constantly moaning about how there was to much fitness and not enough defensive input this is what I was told today no idea on the truth of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyruk Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 He’s done. Why don’t we just shut down this thread and move on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Are Villa “higher”? Judging by the way we played when we were firing on all cylinders in 2020 I’d say that it took a lot of intensive practice. Also given that we were defensively very poor for half a season how so if 50% of the training was spent of defence? Finally how on earth could you keep this so quiet for 3 weeks? I’m not saying it isn’t possible but it seems highly unlikely. Edited 5 August, 2021 by sadoldgit Sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, sadoldgit said: Are Villa “higher”? Judging by the way we played when we were firing on all cylinders in 2020 I’d say that it took a lot of intensive practise. Also given that we were defensively very poor for half a season how so if 50% of the training was spent of defence? Finally how on earth could you keep this so quiet for 3 weeks? I’m not saying it isn’t possible but it seems highly unlikely. FWIW I think it’s questionable too, especially given quite a few people have said it was done in a day, but supposedly it was just dotting the i’s and crossing t’s yesterday…pinch of salt like any rumour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 48 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What was stopping them putting up a quick article announcing his departure? The Ralph article is just the managers feedback on it, not the official club stance. No official club wishes or thanks in any of that. Something sour went on I think. For a club like Southampton, not known to kick up a fuss and always play by the book, to not even say 'goodbye' is probably a damming indictment of what has played out. Bit strange really in that even Saints and Lemina parted with a common courtesy of a 'thank you' on both sides whereas you might not have expected it, and nobody would have been surprised by the indifference to each other. Ings, a top goalscorer who a few months ago could have been our top earner on a four year contract to the age of 33 leaves without any real comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, OttawaSaint said: Good post. Pretty sure he's one of Heisenburg's alts... The dominatrix? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 21 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Curious if he hates ralph’s Fitness training approach as it seems to be core part of what got him the extra performance level here and into England squad the year before. The no sentiment for saints definitely feels true. The home town boy stuff just media assumption. Play higher the polite way of saying will pay more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Can you buy a used striker and have it delivered to your door? Cazoo! Yes you can! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 32 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ No according to the guff he has said on the avfc side of things - even had to keep it from his dad (bless). 3 weeks is a very long time to keep things “secret” in the football world. Which was why we had so many WTF I didn’t see that coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Curious if he hates ralph’s Fitness training approach as it seems to be core part of what got him the extra performance level here and into England squad the year before. That thought occurred to me too. It was a bit of a gamble signing him with his fitness record but at 100% he had another dimension to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 42 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Ralph seemingly making a habit of falling out with players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, SKD said: Ralph seemingly making a habit of falling out with players. Which others has he fallen out with? And that could easily be bullshit too btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 52 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: It's like an obituary, probably should say a couple of words, little bit of praise, but no rush as being quick off the mark isn't going to affect anything. True. There’s usual a period of a few days of mourning before the funeral elegy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, SKD said: Ralph seemingly making a habit of falling out with players. Given that he’s basically saved Ings’ career, i’d be surprised if he hates Ralph. He was moving round like a cripple under Hughes, and even at the start of his near golden boot season. Clearly the fitness work did him no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Just now, Saint Garrett said: Which others has he fallen out with? And that could easily be bullshit too btw. Pretty sure he fell out with Austin and I seem to recall comments around the time Rohl left, that there was very little communication between Ralph and the players.. I.e rohl was the man manager of the 2. The bit about him hating saints and not being a fan is 100% correct. He’s never been a fan, despite what people claimed on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 Ok. So Austin and possibly Ings. And Austin was clearly an absolute cock, who didn’t fit into the way we play. Got no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Not seen you for ages hun, you okay? ❤️ 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 52 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This was what I was told last night, no idea on the truth of it. “Deal done 3 weeks ago Hates Saints - more importantly hates Ralph. Says training sessions are 30% fitness, 50% defensive and 20% of shit. Not a Saints fan so no ties, keen to play ‘higher’“ Not having a dig at your source, but that feels a bit far fetched to me. The words 'hate' seem a little unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 6 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Given that he’s basically saved Ings’ career, i’d be surprised if he hates Ralph. He was moving round like a cripple under Hughes, and even at the start of his near golden boot season. Clearly the fitness work did him no harm. Agree, it was only under Ralph that his form got going again to put himself in the frame for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not having a dig at your source, but that feels a bit far fetched to me. The words 'hate' seem a little unlikely to me. My source is the same as I hear multiple things from. (Normally keeper related) His source for this is someone different, which is someone he works with, so much more questionable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 17 minutes ago, SKD said: Ralph seemingly making a habit of falling out with players. You are Glasgow saint aren’t you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 The bit about him never being a Saints fan. Genuine question - how does that square with him having a brick with his name on it at the back of the Chapel? Or is it a grander version of my friend who knows I loathe MUFC buying me a ManUre badge for Xmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 1 hour ago, saint77 said: Yep only a first grade arsehole using the word cancer in this context. Clear a nasty piece of work but probably less gobby in real company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 August, 2021 Share Posted 5 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: My source is the same as I hear multiple things from. (Normally keeper related) His source for this is someone different, which is someone he works with, so much more questionable. I know someone who knows Ings very well. No indication of this whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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