Arsenal 1-1 Saints - Reaction

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, benjii said:

Their shout under the Bednarek challenge in the first half was as much of a pen as our second half shout.

We got what we deserved. We hardly created any real pressure on the goal all match. The one time Romeu decides not to foul someone going past him....

Still a decent enough performance. Ings is not playing at his max so let's hope he gets back to it soon.

Romeu was on a yellow.

[pimpin4rizeal]

Our game doesn’t really suit the slow possession based football.. we look much much better when hitting teams direct and fast without giving them time to set up.. we played a bit too much of this in the first half and the sending off made the game go even more this way.... thought some of Adams’s build up play tonight was superb though he’s getting good at holding the ball up and releasing players.. Theo was good again he drops into some nice pockets and can then beat players on the turn which can open up space, nice finish also..

ings has looked a bit off the pace the last couple of games be good to get him back to his normal sharpness.

[qwertyell]

Take it. We lost the chance to win with a 15-20 minute period either side of half time when we lost our way. 

Too slow and unimaginative with our passing after the red card. Parking the bus is the only tactic Arteta is good at - our lack of creativity was laid bare.

A point's okay, though. Onwards.

[StrangelyBrown]

I can't believe I'm disappointed with an away point against arsenal - an away point that takes us third!

Has to be said that ref was abysmal. Nice he decided to even it up by putting his side down to 11 men.

Probably should have been a pen, but I would have been fuming if that was given against us.

[Jimmy_D]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

Romeu was on a yellow.

He wasn't, it was Ings that got the yellow.

He is however on 4 yellows for the season and a potential 1 game suspension though.

[Yozzman]

2 minutes ago, Chez said:

Romeu was on a yellow.

Romeo didn't get a yellow.

[itchen]

Disappointed not to win but still very satisfied to have got the draw. Imagine, going to Arsenal and being disappointed not to win.  Let's keep some perspective.  We're playing really well and can beat anyone but we won't beat everyone, every time. 

[OttawaSaint]

It's not often that Arsenal have to park the bus against us at the Emirates. 

[Toadhall Saint]

3 minutes ago, Chez said:

Romeu was on a yellow.

No yellow for Romeu tonight 

[The Cat]

Draw was fair. We didn't really trouble them enough with 10 men. Thought they were well organised after the red card, I guess they have a fair bit of practice at it though.

Disappointing goal to concede. We had enough chances to bring Saka down but failed. 

Nice finish by Walcott, lovely weight of pass from Adams.

Walker Peters probably MOTM for me. Ings had a frustrating evening. Redmond looked most likely to score when he came on. 

[suewhistle]

Disappointed, obviously, but isn't it great that we're disappointed! We had our chances, Djenepo's cutback was good, for example. I can take being dissatisfied with only 3rd place. A vaccine or two and another trip into Europe seems a perfectly good fantasy to keep us all going through these shi**y times..

[Manuel]

1 minute ago, The Cat said:

Redmond looked most likely to score when he came on. 

Yep, just needed to keep doing what he was doing.  Would like to see more of him in the next game.  

[LuckyNumber7]

Would have taken that beforehand but very frustrating not to have won that. We are just lacking a bit of ruthlessness.

Not really sure why that wasn't a penalty at the end especially considering some of the soft ones that have been given this season. I felt it was a mistake taking Theo off as he was playing well and causing them problems, plus a very nice goal. Djenepo and Redmond look threatening but flatter to deceive most of the time and Armstrong is too careless in possession.

Romeu, JWP and KWP were all excellent. Looking at the bigger picture it's a good point but hard not to feel some disappointment, which is a measure of how far we've come.

[Atlanta Saint]

30 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Redmond should have grabbed that game by the scruff of the neck, too many short passes not enough turning and direct running 

Redmond coming on for us cancelled out playing against 10 men.

[Appy]

We were fine, not quite at it after half-time again which unfortunately has become a pattern. 
 

We were definitely more threatening against eleven than ten, we only really opened them up once or twice after the red card.

 

Ings just looks a touch rusty but we know he’ll get there. 

Edited 16 December, 2020 by Appy

[stknowle]

16 minutes ago, whelk said:

Yep and those stupid little chipped crosses into box. Really poor choice

Redmond was the worst culprit for that. So easy to defend against. Didn't think it was a penalty either. 

[Saint_clark]

Worried that Ings is starting to look frustrated, no smile on his face anymore. Hope he doesn't let it start to affect him the longer he goes without a goal.

[saint77]

Come on we’re all disappointed with a point #uck me how far have we progressed in such a short space of time 

[stknowle]

4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Worried that Ings is starting to look frustrated, no smile on his face anymore. Hope he doesn't let it start to affect him the longer he goes without a goal.

Oh ffs, he's been back from injury for 2 games. 

[OttawaSaint]

I think this game shows that we are 6-10 position. We have to be on or close to on our game every week and having hot and cold players like Redmond, Armstrong, Walcott and Djenepo hurts us a bit. 

That's OK. We're fun to watch and doing really well. Would be nice to see us crack the top 6 but I think when the games come thick and fast we'll have to rotate a bit and be weakened as a result.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I was also confused as to why that penalty wasn't re-checked, but there we go.

As I said in the other post, I'd have taken a point all night long. I didn't see us winning tonight because I didn't see Arsenal losing 5 or whatever on the bounce at home, they've still got good players and I couldn't see them let that happen - and they didn't.

We didn't really go for their throats after 30 mins and we did sit back a bit, bit tippy tappy in the 2nd half - but they basically threw two banks of 4 in front of us, very compacted through the middle and our inverted winger idea wasn't really working.

We did get in behind them a couple of times, but we needed to do it more - that's how you get around that kind of 4-4 block.

Never mind, take the point and go. Shame the next one is against City, but we did them last year.

The penalty claim was checked and turned down.

 

[Whitey Grandad]

37 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Did Amazon even show a replay of the penalty shout? 

Yes.

[Tamesaint]

We will never win this league if we fail to beat the relegation candidates. 😁😁

[JRM]

Frustrating game, we do struggle to break teams down when they sit deep like that, always the fear we'll get hit on the break and concede so i get why we are cautious. 

Was a decent performance all in all, predicted 1-1 pre match on the basis we never win there in the league, some things never change with us. 

Ings doesn't look 100% to me yet, perhaps a bit rusty regaining match fitness. 

Very tight table , we're not far ahead of 10th , an Arsenal fan I work with offered me £10 bet earlier they would still finish above us, reluctant to accept as deep down I think he's right. 

[Maggie May]

Good result. Feels like a loss because Arsenal were there for the taking.  But it's a good result in the grand scheme of things.  Arsenal won't be this dross all season because Arteta won't last. They'll beat big teams if they bring in someone of quality (Allegri, for example). Let's keep picking up points.

[woodsaint1]

Look where we were when denied a win away to Arse last season, and now look where we are. Disappointed not to take advantage of the extra man in the last half hour, but always difficult to break down teams that just sit in. Decent point and being the dominant team at their place shows how far we've come

[suewhistle]

2 minutes ago, JRM said:

Very tight table , we're not far ahead of 10th , an Arsenal fan I work with offered me £10 bet earlier they would still finish above us, reluctant to accept as deep down I think he's right. 

Take it: money to chosen charity and winners all round..

[Shroppie]

48 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Did Amazon even show a replay of the penalty shout? 

No. They claimed that, "of course it was reviewed" but it's hard to see how that wouldn't be given serious consideration

[Chez]

34 minutes ago, Yozzman said:

Romeo didn't get a yellow.

my mistake. I was sure he got a yellow in the first half. should of fouled him then, like he normally does, although there were three players that could have

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Disappointing not to take all the points but will look at the positives: we're disappointed not to take all 3 points from a so called big 6 side right now. It's all part of the progress. City don't look the side they were - still very decent mind - but on to trying to win that one now.

[saintjimbo83]

Best chance we are going to get to break the duck of winning there. Being annoyed with a draw away to Arsenal, feels different to the one last season. We should have won and they were there for the taking.

Walcott was taken off far too early and was our most dangerous player IMO.

[Saint Billy]

Disappointing overall. Armstrong had a shocker, good goal from Theo but he lost possession too many times. Ings has not recovered his form yet. Despite this we should have won especially when they went down to ten men. 

Nevermind, we are 3rd, can't be bad.

[OttawaSaint]

3 minutes ago, LeG said:

Bertrand and Ings have been rubbish lately. We all know why.

 

Do we? Did I miss something?

[woodsaint1]

The anger is real 😂😂

 

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, LeG said:

Bertrand and Ings have been rubbish lately. We all know why

Are you suggesting they're consciously not putting in 100% (due to not getting what they want out of contract renewals) or more of a subconscious thing?

[waylander]

Disappointed not to get 3 points. Thought JWP's set pieces were unspecial tonight.

[saint77]

9 minutes ago, LeG said:

Bertrand and Ings have been rubbish lately. We all know why.

Think arsenal were going to win before the red card. We are a team that's learning fast and on an exciting journey. RH will have us finding ways to break teams down in training, that's for sure. It would have been nice to take advantage of an Arsenal side that is lacking confidence, but a point away from home vs a traditional big team is a good one. Need to beat a big team soon though...starting on saturday 1 point closer to saftey hehe

Bullshit Bertrand has been steady as he always is and ings has had a month out don’t make out something is wrong when it ain’t 

[Appy]

9 minutes ago, trousers said:

Are you suggesting they're consciously not putting in 100% (due to not getting what they want out of contract renewals) or more of a subconscious thing?

Ings has just come back from knee surgery, probably that. 

[Saint_clark]

40 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

The penalty claim was checked and turned down.

 

In the time it took for us to walk over to the corner flag. Wasn't checked properly.

[Hodgey]

Started well again and deserved lead at half time without creating much. They made tweaks and looked more dangerous - scoring and looking slightly more dangerous until the red. After that I think our automisns just don’t work against 10. We were pedestrian - but we actually often are - tempting players out of position then to play quick through the middle where there is space. Arsenal refused to move out of position leaving only space wide - that’s not really our game nor what they have been trained to do. In the end happy with a point - very hard to unlock a team who park the bus - look at City v West Brom.

[Whitey Grandad]

31 minutes ago, Shroppie said:

No. They claimed that, "of course it was reviewed" but it's hard to see how that wouldn't be given serious consideration

I saw a replay on my coverage. If that had been given it would have been very soft but that could be said of a lot of them this season.

[Whitey Grandad]

6 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

In the time it took for us to walk over to the corner flag. Wasn't checked properly.

Do you mean “didn’t award us a penalty?

[Saint_clark]

11 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Do you mean “didn’t award us a penalty?

No, I actually meant I don't believe they checked it at all. 

[View From The Top]

Should have won.

Weren't ruthless enough.

It's as if we don't believe we should be up there.

[hypochondriac]

I still think if we are going to play Theo from the start then we need a decent striker off the bench to change it up a bit. Sack off long and get a pacy youngster. 

[Shroppie]

16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I still think if we are going to play Theo from the start then we need a decent striker off the bench to change it up a bit. Sack off long and get a pacy youngster. 

N'Lundulu may fit that bill. Has pace and a big physical presence

[SKD]

1 hour ago, trousers said:

Are you suggesting they're consciously not putting in 100% (due to not getting what they want out of contract renewals) or more of a subconscious thing?

Ings deal is all but done a few minor sticking points but wage isn’t one of them. Unsurprisingly getting a decent pay rise. 
 

likely to include a release clause, make of that what you will (bare in mind what I said about signing a deal and moving in the summer.....)

[SKD]

1 hour ago, LeG said:

Bertrand and Ings have been rubbish lately. We all know why.

Think arsenal were going to win before the red card. We are a team that's learning fast and on an exciting journey. RH will have us finding ways to break teams down in training, that's for sure. It would have been nice to take advantage of an Arsenal side that is lacking confidence, but a point away from home vs a traditional big team is a good one. Need to beat a big team soon though...starting on saturday 1 point closer to saftey hehe

To be fair, ings was never going to maintain his form from last year where he genuinely looked world class. 

[SuperSAINT]

3 minutes ago, SKD said:

Ings deal is all but done a few minor sticking points but wage isn’t one of them. Unsurprisingly getting a decent pay rise. 
 

likely to include a release clause, make of that what you will (bare in mind what I said about signing a deal and moving in the summer.....)

Think the release clause was mentioned by David Ornstein (or The Telegraph).  

[View From The Top]

2 minutes ago, SKD said:

To be fair, ings was never going to maintain his form from last year where he genuinely looked world class. 

Just coming back from injury though so never going to be razor sharp straight away.