Koolman Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55224155 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 The bloke is a tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 30 minutes ago, Noodles34 said: The bloke is a tool Bit harsh, had his problem sure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbria Saint Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 Kudos to him. It can't be easy to pull yourself out of that sort of situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 Just be happy that he has found a purpose in sobriety it’s one day at a time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 2 hours ago, Noodles34 said: The bloke is a tool Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. But if by sharing his story he helps someone in the depths of depression and/or addiction get help and avoid suicide then it’s worth the bbc sharing, and I’m pleased he and they have done so. Thought the piece itself was pretty good and wish his project every success. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Chewy said: Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. But if by sharing his story he helps someone in the depths of depression and/or addiction get help and avoid suicide then it’s worth the bbc sharing, and I’m pleased he and they have done so. Thought the piece itself was pretty good and wish his project every success. Agreed. I'm sure there's plenty of his behaviour he regrets, but who can say they haven't made mistakes? I'm glad he's turned a corner and is putting his focus into a worthwhile project. He isn't the only high profile player to have gone off the rails in this way, but Claus is an example from a previous generation where no planning was done for retirement and hopefully subsequent generations have learnt from this. It isn't enough to be financially secure, you need a purpose - especially if you're used to the adulation of fans and comradery of a dressing room. Once that's gone, it can leave a massive void and if you have an addictive personality then it'll be a slippery slope. Edited 11 December, 2020 by Saint Mikey 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 2 hours ago, Noodles34 said: The bloke is a tool Don't label someone who is unwell as a tool. We had this ignorance on the Maradona thread, and have it again. People don't choose to be an addict. They drink as other people do, but unlike other people, they find that they can't stop. They don't choose for that to happen. They're wired differently and can longer choose whether to drink or not. I've met loads of addicts who get into cocaine as their bodies need more alcohol and the coke helps them keep going. It's a sad situation. Don't criticise what you don't understand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, saints1988 said: Bit harsh, had his problem sure I only hope people are more understanding than you are should your life and mental health take such a negative turn! Edited 11 December, 2020 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 He had alcohol problems on arrival and his wages made it worse. Whilst he was propping up the ocean village bars, someone should of realised there was a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 He formed some Great partnerships in his time here, when you look at centre backs we had like Monkou, Dean Richards, Michael Svenson. I remember his testimonial being a strange occasion against Celtic, don't think he really made any money from that. As mentioned he was well known for propping up the bar in venues and down the casino, amazing he lasted as a pro sportsman for so long, needed to get help earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 1 hour ago, JRM said: He formed some Great partnerships in his time here, when you look at centre backs we had like Monkou, Dean Richards, Michael Svenson. I remember his testimonial being a strange occasion against Celtic, don't think he really made any money from that. As mentioned he was well known for propping up the bar in venues and down the casino, amazing he lasted as a pro sportsman for so long, needed to get help earlier. In retrospect, that’s probably a good thing. I wonder what kind of programmes clubs run for players in preparation for the end of their playing career. Let’s be honest, a lot of them aren’t the sharpest tools in the box and could probably do with some help and background knowledge in certain areas. Property development, grass root academies, car dealerships, etc.; as long as they’re get started whilst they’re still playing and they’ve got the capital, most players can be kept on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 Back in the day players always seemed to end up running a local pub, probably wouldn't have helped him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 My description of him being a tool is not based on his ‘problems’. it’s just based on him full stop when he was with us. Just my take on him for various reasons. as for his after football problems, we’ll at least he could afford a regular cocaine habit eh, Its good that he is helping others now, kudos for that but in my opinion he was a right knobhead when he played for us, before his ‘problems’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 I remember Claus's playing days quite fondly and was aware of his tendency to prop up a bar, but he gave his all on the pitch. I follow him on twitter and he comes across as having the club at the centre of his heart still, always happy and positive with whatever is going on with the club. I wish him well and hope he continues to defeat his demons. If he did come back to the club in some shape or form in the future, I would hope it would work out for both parties, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayling Saint Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 37 minutes ago, vince said: I remember Claus's playing days quite fondly and was aware of his tendency to prop up a bar, but he gave his all on the pitch. I follow him on twitter and he comes across as having the club at the centre of his heart still, always happy and positive with whatever is going on with the club. I wish him well and hope he continues to defeat his demons. If he did come back to the club in some shape or form in the future, I would hope it would work out for both parties, personally. Met him a few times, very nice bloke. Hopefully, he has overcome his problems (seems to have) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 7 hours ago, Noodles34 said: My description of him being a tool is not based on his ‘problems’. it’s just based on him full stop when he was with us. Just my take on him for various reasons. as for his after football problems, we’ll at least he could afford a regular cocaine habit eh, Its good that he is helping others now, kudos for that but in my opinion he was a right knobhead when he played for us, before his ‘problems’. You obviously never met him he was a genuinely nice guy before and after his issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 11 December, 2020 Share Posted 11 December, 2020 12 hours ago, Saint86 said: I only hope people are more understanding than you are should your life and mental health take such a negative turn! I was saying that calling Claus a tool was harsh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 12 December, 2020 Share Posted 12 December, 2020 21 hours ago, Noodles34 said: My description of him being a tool is not based on his ‘problems’. it’s just based on him full stop when he was with us. Just my take on him for various reasons. as for his after football problems, we’ll at least he could afford a regular cocaine habit eh, Its good that he is helping others now, kudos for that but in my opinion he was a right knobhead when he played for us, before his ‘problems’. Rather than justify your ignorant remark you have compounded it .... and 'tool' is hardly erudite - in fact, literally they are at least useful. 'Noodles' also has a non-literal meaning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 12 December, 2020 Share Posted 12 December, 2020 You wonder what the club knew/did about his problems during his playing days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolokov Posted 12 December, 2020 Share Posted 12 December, 2020 Glad he managed to get help and has a purpose now. Disgusted at some of the comments from other people on this thread. Some real scummy turds on here these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 12 December, 2020 Share Posted 12 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Bolokov said: Glad he managed to get help and has a purpose now. Disgusted at some of the comments from other people on this thread. Some real scummy turds on here these days. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 12 December, 2020 Share Posted 12 December, 2020 7 hours ago, Bolokov said: Glad he managed to get help and has a purpose now. Disgusted at some of the comments from other people on this thread. Some real scummy turds on here these days. So people have to agree with your point of view. I mean the word tool, it’s hardly majorly offensive is it? but you use ‘Scummy turds’, can you see the irony of your post? seriously, people like you who can’t handle someone’s else’s opinion need to jog on if you can’t handle it. I’m allowed to not like him and be reasonably polite in calling him a tool, I mean you clearly think it was fine when he was arrested for driving over the drink limit while off his nuts in coke? That’s okay then, if he hits a kid that’s okay cause he played for Southampton FC? he crashed his car FFS and then shortly after he assaulted a woman, his missus I think, but ‘Our Claus, in the middle of our defence’ , he’s a fucking hero, Seriously, do me a favour, he’s a tool and I’m glad he is recovering and helping others, but for what he did, he’s a tool, but you think that’s okay and ima scummy turd for pointing that out. You couldn’t make it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 Very sad to hear he had such struggles, I think football fans can sometimes forget footballers are also people doing a job, a great job in the eyes of many of us but still subject to the ups and downs of life and the same demons an flaws that could plague any of us. Think many think they have this great job with all this money how can they get depressions etc. so good to see this sort of stuff is talked about more and great to see he is back in a good place. It's especially good to see he has repaired his relationship with his children and ex-wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 05:43, Noodles34 said: The bloke is a tool Such a caring response to one of our own players who hit bad times. I hope nobody you know ever suffers from addiction and mental health problems because they won't get much support from you. If you can't say anything nice, shut up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 13 December, 2020 Share Posted 13 December, 2020 3 hours ago, Sarnia Cherie said: Such a caring response to one of our own players who hit bad times. I hope nobody you know ever suffers from addiction and mental health problems because they won't get much support from you. If you can't say anything nice, shut up. It’s forum, so you don’t have to say nice things. here’s something nice, “it’s good to know that he didn’t kill anyone on his drug and drink fuelled drive up the M3 and no doubt many more times “ so that’s nice for those who survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 December, 2020 Share Posted 14 December, 2020 Love Claus and applaud him for turning things round, but who on earth approved his interview being broadcast at halftime on radio solent yesterday. "Erm" every other word and barely able to understand a single word due to the interview being conducted over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 December, 2020 Share Posted 15 December, 2020 On 11/12/2020 at 22:21, saints1988 said: I was saying that calling Claus a tool was harsh.... Aha! Sorry 88, quoted the wrong person there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 December, 2020 Share Posted 15 December, 2020 Maybe his daughter can take over from Kenzie when she starts to go downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 15 December, 2020 Share Posted 15 December, 2020 I've previously been critical of Claus, but this article has helped put things into perspective and I now have reasonable sympathy for him. Yes, he's acted like a tool at times, but this is more the product of his illness rather than a reflection of who he really is. I used to have a footballer living opposite me, he wasn't a household name but played the majority of his career in the EFL. He and his family were so unhinged and you could see how the lifestyle (not to mention life's other challenges) had impacted them and how he was struggling to come to terms with the fact his career was coming to an end. A very messy sight and I was both infuriated and sympathetic to them in equal measure as they just weren't able to cope with things mentally. Being a footballer is no doubt a brilliant career, but there are so many ways to fall of the rails from what I've seen, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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