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whelk

whelk

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6 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

So basically, they will come out with some BS about it not being clear and let them off. Two tier system without any doubt at all.

Hey stop getting more dense. It’s fun taking the piss out of you and I don’t want it to get to the point of feeling cruel

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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Not sure if this is a National Curriculum thing or just a local initiative, but our grandson's school have come up with a way to nip any nascent racism in the bud; his class, 9 and 10 year olds, have been asked to write about what Stephen Lawrence would have grown up to be if he hadn't been murdered.

pingpong

pingpong

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2 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

Not sure if this is a National Curriculum thing or just a local initiative, but our grandson's school have come up with a way to nip any nascent racism in the bud; his class, 9 and 10 year olds, have been asked to write about what Stephen Lawrence would have grown up to be if he hadn't been murdered.

It is national curriculum, part of the previous governments insistence on teaching "British values". 

To be fair, it's an important subject and thought provoking.

The answer is architect, by the way.

east-stand-nic

east-stand-nic

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On 18/10/2024 at 23:47, whelk said:

Hey stop getting more dense. It’s fun taking the piss out of you and I don’t want it to get to the point of feeling cruel

I have called u out and caught u out many time. The reverse has never happen, thicko.

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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6 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

I have called u out and caught u out many time. The reverse has never happen, thicko.

Quick bit of advice, Nic. If you’re gonna call others thick, get your grammar right whilst doing so 👍

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east-stand-nic

east-stand-nic

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2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Quick bit of advice, Nic. If you’re gonna call others thick, get your grammar right whilst doing so 👍

I have outed almost everyone on here for that and always been chastised for it. But hey ho, when you are the one who has the guts to stick to his correct guns, you are bound to suffer from double standard charlies.

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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22 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

I have outed almost everyone on here for that and always been chastised for it. But hey ho, when you are the one who has the guts to stick to his correct guns, you are bound to suffer from double standard charlies.

What's a correct gun? 

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

I have outed almost everyone on here for that and always been chastised for it. But hey ho, when you are the one who has the guts to stick to his correct guns, you are bound to suffer from double standard charlies.

You are a fucking charlatan.

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tdmickey3

tdmickey3

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9 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

I have outed almost everyone on here for that and always been chastised for it. But hey ho, when you are the one who has the guts to stick to his correct guns, you are bound to suffer from double standard charlies.

Poor old nutty nic, going further down the loonies rabbit hole, sad to see….almost

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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6 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not the MET police firearms unit

Would that be the same Met police who have been found to be institutionally racist? You do know that one firearms officer was charged, not the whole unit?

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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On 20/10/2024 at 12:16, east-stand-nic said:

More school playground stuff.

I agree nic, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists to be found in school playgrounds. The difference is most of us grow out of it when we leave school and become mature adults with the ability to make well rounded, reasoned judgements.

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whelk

whelk

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3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Would that be the same Met police who have been found to be institutionally racist? You do know that one firearms officer was charged, not the whole unit?

Bloke was charged with a shooting and core gang member. But of course just the met shooting random innocent black man. Let’s publish the photo where he looks like an angel

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Turkish

Turkish

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3 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I agree nic, there are a lot of conspiracy theorists to be found in school playgrounds. The difference is most of us grow out of it when we leave school and become mature adults with the ability to make well rounded, reasoned judgements.

So what went wrong with you?

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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16 minutes ago, whelk said:

Bloke was charged with a shooting and core gang member. But of course just the met shooting random innocent black man. Let’s publish the photo where he looks like an angel

What are you talking about? He didn’t know he was a core gang member of the time and he wasn’t charged with shooting a “random innocent black man.” He was charged with unlawful killing. The colour of the man’s skin had nothing to do with it.

No police officer is above the law and we can’t have officers shooting people to death with impunity. The CPS believed that there was just cause to bring this charge. These matters need to be dealt with in a thorough and transparent manner. He has been found not guilty and justice has not only been done but it has seen to have been done. The only issue is whether the officer’s name should have been released. I don’t know why the judge felt it was okay to make that decision. 

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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6 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

These matters need to be dealt with in a thorough and transparent manner. He has been found not guilty and justice has not only been done but it has seen to have been done

Unless you’re Ched Evans? 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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20 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What are you talking about? He didn’t know he was a core gang member of the time and he wasn’t charged with shooting a “random innocent black man.” He was charged with unlawful killing. The colour of the man’s skin had nothing to do with it.

No police officer is above the law and we can’t have officers shooting people to death with impunity. The CPS believed that there was just cause to bring this charge. These matters need to be dealt with in a thorough and transparent manner. He has been found not guilty and justice has not only been done but it has seen to have been done. The only issue is whether the officer’s name should have been released. I don’t know why the judge felt it was okay to make that decision. 

The man was driving a car linked to previous shootings, when asked to stop by the police he crammed the car and missed catching an officer and dragging him down the road by inches, other officers on the scene testified that they were seconds from doing the exact same thing. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. It's a disgrace that this went to trial, not helped by the likes of Khan and his race baiting comments. 

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Thanks for reminding me that you think it is ok to have sex with incapacitated women.

Was the matter not dealt with in the same thorough and transparent manner as this one? Or are you not so enthusiastic about that ruling because it didn't have Corbyn and Khan calling for "justice?" 

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

What are you talking about? He didn’t know he was a core gang member of the time and he wasn’t charged with shooting a “random innocent black man.” He was charged with unlawful killing. The colour of the man’s skin had nothing to do with it.

No police officer is above the law and we can’t have officers shooting people to death with impunity. The CPS believed that there was just cause to bring this charge. These matters need to be dealt with in a thorough and transparent manner. He has been found not guilty and justice has not only been done but it has seen to have been done. The only issue is whether the officer’s name should have been released. I don’t know why the judge felt it was okay to make that decision. 

The car he was driving was the getaway car used in a shooting the day before and had been flagged by ANPR, which is why it was stopped in the first place. Whilst the Police didn't know who exactly was driving, it would be reasonable to suspect that it wasn't a granny going to the local CoOp, and once boxed in the driver violently tried to evade the Police blockade.

What I find most sad about this is the family saying "This shows our lives don't matter" whilst they ignore the utter disdain that Kaba exhibited towards the life of the person he shot and others exposed to possible stray bullets.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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4 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

100% this. 

You’re another one.

Again, Evans was found guilty of rape and served his sentence for it. After several attempts at an appeal which were all turned down, he eventually achieved his appeal which he won thanks to “new evidence” which appeared thanks to his father in law putting a reward up for “new evidence.” The CPS argued that the “new evidence” should not be allowed as it didn’t relate to this case. The judge allowed it anyway. The CPS believe that the two new witnesses were coached by the Evans camp at to the ‘new evidence’ they gave.

I’ll remind you again. His mate picked up a young woman who was clearly the worse for alcohol, drugs or both. This was made clear by video evidence of her barely being able to walk. Also it was corroborated by the owner of the kebab shop in which Evan’s mate found her. The law states that intoxicated women cannot consent to sex. She was clearly intoxicated. Evans by his own admission, walked into the hotel room his mate and her were in, performed a sex act on the intoxicated women and lady immediately without even speaking to her.

The prosecution team believe that he was guilty of rape. They believe his mate was guilty of rape. One jury cleared his mate but found him guilty. Another jury found him not guilty with evidence the prosecution believed to be tainted. Make of the whole sorry episode what you will, but it went through the judicial system none the less.

Many complaints against the police go through an internal review process which is probably why there is little public confidence in them.

If the police, especially the Met, didn’t have such a poor issue over racist behaviour, perhaps the colour of the deceased skin wouldn’t have become an issue. The reason the race card gets played against our police force so often is purely down to their appalling record of racism.

Still, absolutely no surprise to see the same people who rejoice in the killing of innocent Muslims (one of whom is happy to see them “under rubble”) getting exited about the shooting of a black man. The “poor man” who put a bullet through the victims brain still gets to live his life. The guy he shot had not, at that point, been found guilty of any crime. I should also remind you that even if he had been found guilty, we no longer have capital punishment in this country.

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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26 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The “poor man” who put a bullet through the victims brain still gets to live his life. The guy he shot had not, at that point, been found guilty of any crime. I should also remind you that even if he had been found guilty, we no longer have corporate punishment in this country.

He hadn't been in front of a judge and jury, no.  But....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyly5122yeo

"Chris Kaba shot man in nightclub days before his death" is the headline.  Sounds like he was a lovely chap.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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42 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Still, absolutely no surprise to see the same people who rejoice in the killing of innocent Muslims (one of whom is happy to see them “under rubble”) getting exited about the shooting of a black man. The “poor man” who put a bullet through the victims brain still gets to live his life. The guy he shot had not, at that point, been found guilty of any crime. I should also remind you that even if he had been found guilty, we no longer have corporate punishment in this country.

Stop being such an utter cock. The Policeman fired a warning shot to prevent his colleague being assaulted with an AUDI, the shot was not intended to be lethal, unfortunately that is how it turned out.

Kaba was a drug dealing, gun toting, gangster who cared very little about those to whom his actions caused harm., was quite happy to use a gun inside a busy club, he had prior convictions for violence and firearms offences, and if the Police hadn't inadvertently intervened it is highly likely he would have soon been offed by a rival mobster. His death was unfortunate, but I won't shed any tears for him.

 

If you want to find a potentially racist act by the Met look at the case of the 2 black athletes stopped in their Mercedes, where after the stop the Police claimed that they thought they could smell marijuana.

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Thanks for reminding me that you think it is ok to have sex with incapacitated women.

and you think having sexual imagines of children "isn't exactly the crime of the century"

 

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

and you think having sexual imagines of children "isn't exactly the crime of the century"

 

He also repeatedly referred to members of this forum as rape apologists when they questioned the conviction of Evans and continues to challenge it even after he has been acquitted and those same posters were proven correct in a court of law. 

So he likes to question rulings in court unless they align with how he views the world. Even with this case, he's dispariging of the poor victim who shot someone in fear of his life and whilst doing his job attempting to apprehended a dangerous and violent gang member. Like you say he also likes to play down the crime of distributing child rape material. What an appaling human being. 

whelk

whelk

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

He also repeatedly referred to members of this forum as rape apologists when they questioned the conviction of Evans and continues to challenge it even after he has been acquitted and those same posters were proven correct in a court of law. 

So he likes to question rulings in court unless they align with how he views the world. Even with this case, he's dispariging of the poor victim who shot someone in fear of his life and whilst doing his job attempting to apprehended a dangerous and violent gang member. Like you say he also likes to play down the crime of distributing child rape material. What an appaling human being. 

We are now getting excited about killing black people and rejoice at Muslims dying.  Simpleton who wants to champion gangsters over the police. 

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

😂

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Would those 'mistakes' include the club shooting ? Are the condolences extended to those 'friends' who have put a bounty on the Policeman's life and forced his family into hiding ?

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whelk

whelk

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Good riddance. Live by the sword….

Sad how desperate people are to take the side of the bad guys. Fucking criminal naming the policeman as well.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

😂

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The confused face is not at you, it’s at the MP. Prime example of what deters me from the Labour Party, who I have things in common with in many ways,

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whelk

whelk

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1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The confused face is not at you, it’s at the MP. Prime example of what deters me from the Labour Party, who I have things in common with in many ways,

Yep - I am far more inclined towards Labour but that is the Andy Burnham, Alistair Campbell types not the drips who think everyone is oppressed and have ridiculous ideals- which is a fair amount of them unfortunately

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BARCELONASAINT

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Chris Kaba was a criminal who thought he could do absolutely anything he wanted to including attempted murder and get away with it. The public that might have been blind to this and believed the bullshit put out by his family and pathetic MP's with an agenda have now well and truly had their eyes opened. He lived by the sword and has died by the sword, that was his choice when he made the choice to live the lifestyle he did.

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rallyboy

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There have been many incidents where individual police officers and forces have clearly acted in a racist manner.

IMO, shooting a wanted criminal as he violently resists arrest by trying to run you over is not one of them.

 

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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4 hours ago, rallyboy said:

There have been many incidents where individual police officers and forces have clearly acted in a racist manner.

IMO, shooting a wanted criminal as he violently resists arrest by trying to run you over is not one of them.

 

Your first point is precisely why this case should have gone to court. Those who would use this as an example of bias now have nothing to back that up.

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Was the programme broadcast live  from Romney Marsh? 

You really are spending way too much time in your local ale house.

Justice is a process. It is not an absolute. At the end of a case you often will find that one side or the other will feel that justice has not been done.

I’ve made this point serval times. OJ Simpson went through the judicial system and was found not guilty of the murder of his ex wife and friend. There are countless examples of miscarriages of justice. Because a jury comes to a decision, it doesn’t change what actually happened, it just provides a verdict after a legal procedure. “Justice” often depends of the competency of the prosecution/defence lawyers. But then you know that don’t you.

And for avoidance of doubt, I do think that this was the right verdict.

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