AlexLaw76 Posted 7 December, 2023 Share Posted 7 December, 2023 7 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: They were a declining brand trying to find a new market, so tried the LGBTQIA2S+ thing. Just trying to sell more beer. It backfired so ran a mile from the LGBTQIA2S+ thing. Sleep well on your My Pillow. Just as simple as that, eh.... 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 December, 2023 Share Posted 8 December, 2023 On 06/12/2023 at 21:16, Fan The Flames said: They were a declining brand trying to find a new market, so tried the LGBTQIA2S+ thing. Just trying to sell more beer. It backfired so ran a mile from the LGBTQIA2S+ thing. Sleep well on your My Pillow. Do asset management firms like Blackrock have an influence over companies, messaging they push and marketing decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 December, 2023 Share Posted 9 December, 2023 2 cultures, 2 opposing opinions; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67505674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 December, 2023 Share Posted 14 December, 2023 (edited) On 07/12/2023 at 05:12, AlexLaw76 said: Just as simple as that, eh.... 😆 Kid Rock has moved on https://www.metalsucks.net/2023/12/12/kid-rock-gives-up-the-grift-says-his-bullsht-bud-light-boycott-is-over/ Edited 14 December, 2023 by Fan The Flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 18 December, 2023 Share Posted 18 December, 2023 Looks like the BBC is messing with poor old Nihal’s head. Or, he is just a nasty piece of work https://x.com/narindertweets/status/1736764103236960681?s=46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 I’m absolutely disgusted at the lack of diversity in the African cup of nations. Whats being done to get more white players involved in African football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 My car. For the past fortnight it has popped up with a warning of black ice. There really is no need to bring colour into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: My car. For the past fortnight it has popped up with a warning of black ice. There really is no need to bring colour into it. It's called black ice because although it is not actually black, it is a thin transparent layer and so appears black because of the road surface underneath. If we drove on pink roads, we'd be calling it pink ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Noticed on BBC earlier a trailer for Junior MasterChef, seven of the nine contestants are black/ethnic. A lack of diversity perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, pingpong said: It's called black ice because although it is not actually black, it is a thin transparent layer and so appears black because of the road surface underneath. If we drove on pink roads, we'd be calling it pink ice. Just "ice" is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 32 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Just "ice" is fine. You're too woke, demanding that they change the dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Just "ice" is fine. Other than you can see ice but you can’t see black ice, hence the description. When I was a kid I slipped on some black ice on a drain cover and broke my arm. Just be thankful that your car is concerned for your safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: Just "ice" is fine. I've seen enough to know there's no just-ice in the world. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 29 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Other than you can see ice but you can’t see black ice, hence the description. When I was a kid I slipped on some black ice on a drain cover and broke my arm. Just be thankful that your car is concerned for your safety. It would be concerned for me just the same without the need to add colour to the equation. Edited January 21 by Weston Super Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, sadoldgit said: Other than you can see ice but you can’t see black ice, hence the description. When I was a kid I slipped on some black ice on a drain cover and broke my arm. Just be thankful that your car is concerned for your safety. Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: You're too woke, demanding that they change the dictionary. Which bit of the dictionary needs to be changed to call ice, ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Mary Poppins https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/feb/26/mary-poppins-uk-age-rating-raised-pg-discriminatory-language 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 That's fair enough, Julie Andrews has gone all blackface there. Oh, sorry, that's soot. She needs to be careful how much she uses, there must be a line not to cross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 6 hours ago, trousers said: Mary Poppins https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/feb/26/mary-poppins-uk-age-rating-raised-pg-discriminatory-language Well they are about to make a film about Maggie Thatcher when she was PM. The Board of Film Censors have said they will give it a certification of, not suitable for Miners 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Not so much racist but sexist; happy international Women's day. I'll be doing my bit today as my 30 minute row this evening will attract a $5 donation from Concept 2 to mark the occasion and promote activity and sport in the lives of women and girls. I shall, rightly, feel very proud of my achievement as I'm sure those women and girls would not be able to do any sport without my manly support! https://log.concept2.com/challenges/iwd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Not so much racist but sexist; happy international Women's day. I'll be doing my bit today as my 30 minute row this evening will attract a $5 donation from Concept 2 to mark the occasion and promote activity and sport in the lives of women and girls. I shall, rightly, feel very proud of my achievement as I'm sure those women and girls would not be able to do any sport without my manly support! https://log.concept2.com/challenges/iwd there is already a thread on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 I see London population is now 38% white British down from 97% in the 60s. Is it racist to point this out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 39 minutes ago, Turkish said: I see London population is now 38% white British down from 97% in the 60s. Is it racist to point this out? So you far right Islamophobes are saying the 62% should be imprisoned deported or worse? Shocking that the country is now run by Katie Hopkins types and they influence so many. Anyway I am going back to my LBC phone in now I feel good about my admonishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I see London population is now 38% white British down from 97% in the 60s. Is it racist to point this out? Depends doesn't it? If you are celebrating it and see london as an international hub, or whether you think that it is an issue and that only white people should be allowed to live there. Its still majority white, and its still majority british, if that makes you feel a bit better? Edited March 9 by pingpong Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 9 Author Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, pingpong said: Depends doesn't it? If you are celebrating it and see london as an international hub, or whether you think that it is an issue and that only white people should be allowed to live there. Its still majority white, and its still majority british, if that makes you feel a bit better? Celebrating what exactly? it’s an interesting statistic I wonder how it compares to other major capital cities in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Turkish said: Celebrating what exactly? it’s an interesting statistic I wonder how it compares to other major capital cities in the world. Celebrating that london is an international business hub attracting people (and money) from all over the world. Aside from tokyo, the major cities are all quite similar. The following cities are all doing slightly better (more diverse/international) than london, but are fairly similar to be fair : new york, Sydney, Melbourne, vancouver, Toronto, miami, la, singapore, dubai. Dubai is the classic example I guess, hardly anyone living there is actually born there, and it is the extreme end of international business - and way too materialistic imo. An example where it goes too far. But london is still far away from that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Find it funny the whole desperate arguments about you can’t be racist to white people to excuse Sam Kerr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 It's just caused by different interpretations of the definition of racism. There is a stipulative definition of racism that is based on racism = prejudice +power. There is also the old simpler definition. They are each used in different places / contexts. In Australia, they use the former, hence why this guy apologised: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/10/craig-foster-apologises-to-sam-kerr-after-arguing-her-alleged-remark-to-uk-police-officer-was-racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 10/03/2024 at 20:27, pingpong said: It's just caused by different interpretations of the definition of racism. There is a stipulative definition of racism that is based on racism = prejudice +power. There is also the old simpler definition. They are each used in different places / contexts. In Australia, they use the former, hence why this guy apologised: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/10/craig-foster-apologises-to-sam-kerr-after-arguing-her-alleged-remark-to-uk-police-officer-was-racist The other definition is made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 hours ago, hypochondriac said: The other definition is made up. Every definition is made up. But in this case, its a definition that has been used for decades, and is the older of the two, but it is very dependent on which country you are in and which definition they have adopted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
east-stand-nic Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Things that are racist? I would surmise that anyone who disagrees with a SOG post would be classed as a racist. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: Things that are racist? I would surmise that anyone who disagrees with a SOG post would be classed as a racist. An audition to join the SOG besotted, becoming quite a tribe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 5 hours ago, tdmickey3 said: SOG besotted, becoming quite a tribe That’s your definition. Another definition more widely used would be “yet another person who thinks SOG is a helmet”. Edited March 15 by Lord Duckhunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 5 hours ago, east-stand-nic said: Things that are racist? I would surmise that anyone who disagrees with a SOG post would be classed as a racist. anyone other than SOG think falls into this category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Good to see Comic Relief moving with the times, and shifting from the racist Lenny Henry. It was his last gig in front of the camera for this cause... Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Football management opportunities https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68584776 Delroy Corinaldi, of the Black Footballers Partnership, was on 5 Live earlier. Diplomatically avoiding a "is football racist?" question, he and others, are looking to any new regulator to take action on the issue. The link highlights a call for include diversity and inclusivity objectives in the Football Governance Bill announced today. From the article "report by three academics looked at off-the-pitch careers of about 3,500 former footballers who played in the Premier League or Championship between 1990 and 2010. It found that despite black players making up 25% of Uefa-issued coaching qualifications, in 2022 and 2023, they only accounted for 4% of all managerial roles." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Football management opportunities https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68584776 Delroy Corinaldi, of the Black Footballers Partnership, was on 5 Live earlier. Diplomatically avoiding a "is football racist?" question, he and others, are looking to any new regulator to take action on the issue. The link highlights a call for include diversity and inclusivity objectives in the Football Governance Bill announced today. From the article "report by three academics looked at off-the-pitch careers of about 3,500 former footballers who played in the Premier League or Championship between 1990 and 2010. It found that despite black players making up 25% of Uefa-issued coaching qualifications, in 2022 and 2023, they only accounted for 4% of all managerial roles." Curious to how our antiwoke warriors on the forum rationalise this kind of report, data based, pretty stark. Do they just think black people aren't as competent or can't lead, or will they just grumble about stats and damn stats etc? And do they think it is a waste of money even looking at the problem? it's edi after all, and we know that is woke and racist... Edited March 19 by pingpong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Something I don’t understand: assuming for one minute all football board members and their associated DoFs absolutely despise all black people BUT are willing to exploit black players for no reason other than to promote their own careers and profits… why aren’t they willing to do that with black managers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 10 hours ago, pingpong said: Curious to how our antiwoke warriors on the forum rationalise this kind of report, data based, pretty stark. Do they just think black people aren't as competent or can't lead, or will they just grumble about stats and damn stats etc? And do they think it is a waste of money even looking at the problem? it's edi after all, and we know that is woke and racist... Equal opportunity does not equate to equal outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Equal opportunity does not equate to equal outcome. Over the longer term the disparity probably narrows, but people are too impatient and want instant fixes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 15 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Something I don’t understand: assuming for one minute all football board members and their associated DoFs absolutely despise all black people BUT are willing to exploit black players for no reason other than to promote their own careers and profits… why aren’t they willing to do that with black managers? That's kind of off the scale incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 22 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Football management opportunities https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68584776 Delroy Corinaldi, of the Black Footballers Partnership, was on 5 Live earlier. Diplomatically avoiding a "is football racist?" question, he and others, are looking to any new regulator to take action on the issue. The link highlights a call for include diversity and inclusivity objectives in the Football Governance Bill announced today. From the article "report by three academics looked at off-the-pitch careers of about 3,500 former footballers who played in the Premier League or Championship between 1990 and 2010. It found that despite black players making up 25% of Uefa-issued coaching qualifications, in 2022 and 2023, they only accounted for 4% of all managerial roles." It's not difficult to work out why this is. If coaching qualifications were only given out from 2022 onwards it might be an issue but there are probably 1000s of coaches who qualified before 2022 who are in jobs already. So more of an interesting percentage would be all the qualified coaches out there how many are black and how many of those are employed and how long have they held their badges. This would give far more of an insight into if this really is a race problem or it being expected that newly qualifed coach should walk into a job because they're black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Some organisations want to admit racism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Some organisations want to admit racism... It just is okay, people just need to accept the report. We will never end racism whilst people carry on denying it. Just by being white you already have white priviledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 11 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Over the longer term the disparity probably narrows, but people are too impatient and want instant fixes. Possibly. They certainly wouldn't be passing on the black Xabi Alonso because they're racist. If he was black and doing what he's doing this season you'd have the exact same clamour for his signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, Turkish said: It's not difficult to work out why this is. If coaching qualifications were only given out from 2022 onwards it might be an issue but there are probably 1000s of coaches who qualified before 2022 who are in jobs already. So more of an interesting percentage would be all the qualified coaches out there how many are black and how many of those are employed and how long have they held their badges. This would give far more of an insight into if this really is a race problem or it being expected that newly qualifed coach should walk into a job because they're black You're talking as though black players have only been in the game for a short period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: You're talking as though black players have only been in the game for a short period of time. We aren't talking about black players, this is about black coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: We aren't talking about black players, this is about black coaches. Black players make black coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted March 20 Author Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Fan The Flames said: Black players make black coaches. so how many qualified black coaches are there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: so how many qualified black coaches are there? I don't know, all I know is we've had black players all my football watching life, but we still have very few black managers. You would have thought the figure would be higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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