Edmonton Saint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Can't change a lot as we are so limited so got to hope Ings is back, need to get back to winning ways against an improving Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Brighton are not a bad side just lack cutting edge at times. We will need to be on song to win this one. Hopefully Ingsy and Redmond will be available. 8 days recuperation will help as we looked tired today. Stronger bench as well will help us manage games better hopefully. I would bring Ingsy straight back in and drop either Walcott or Djenepo. Armstrong not great at all today but he does suit our system and offers a goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 What we saw today is that our team cant defend against top class players who turn it on. Less of a problem with Brighton. I'd move Walcott out to left with Ings coming in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Think we'll do okay, ideal team to press against as they play it from the back but not with technically excellent players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 (edited) Personally, I wouldn't rush Ings back into the starting 11. So, unchanged line up for me but with a much stronger bench... McCarthy Bertie Bednarek Vestergaard KWP JWP Romeu Armstrong Djenepo Walcott Adams Subs: Forster, Stephens, Diallo, Redmond, Ings, Long, Obefemi Edited 29 November, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Brighton pressed Liverpool very well yesterday, they'll look at the way we squandered the ball time and time again today and fancy their chances at getting in our faces. The AMEX has been a good ground for us over the last few years so hopefully we can continue. Ings on the bench I reckon, we're missing him and Redmond but loads of games in December so no point rushing them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Away, not top six, no pressure what’s not to like for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Will the new defender feature at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 (edited) Ings at least on the bench for this one. Edited 29 November, 2020 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Can't see Ings being ready, maybe outside chance for the bench. No reason to change the team (not that we have many options anyway). Hopefully Ralph spends the week drilling into our defensive players about getting the ball away cleanly and not being sloppy. We were awful today at sloppy passes out from the back and giving up possession far too easily (KWP, Romeu, Armstrong, Vestegaard especially). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Same team for me with Ings and Redmond back on the bench instead of Long and Tella. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Can’t remember the exact stat but is something like Brighton haven’t won at home in their last 7 or 8 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 If Maupay is out then that would be a big plus for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 When is Redmond likely to be back? Armstrong has been poor for three games in a row now, giving up possession far too easily and looking leaden-footed. Any chance we could play with both Redmond and Djenepo when both are fit with Armstrong dropped? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 Hopefully Ralph can have a training session for Armstrong, Adams, Djenepo and Walcott where all they do is practice the weight of through balls, reverse passes, cut backs etc. We get into some wonderful positions but often that final ball is under-hit or passed straight to a defender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 Brighton are a decent outfit this season, I don't see them going down. But if we play to our best, we should win, simple as that. They've not won at home yet this season. Lost to Everton, Chelsea, Man Utd, Spurs, Drawn too many against Palace, WBA, Burnley, Liverpool Won at VIlla and Newcastle. Think 8 probably pick themselves, (Mccarthy; KWP Bed Vest Bertrand; Rom JWP; Adams ) it's just whether Ings is fully fit, (wouldn't want to rush him if he's not 100% ready) and what we do with Redmond, Armstrong, Walcott and Djenepo. Arsmtrong has looked a bit leggy in the last few weeks, but they have got a full week now to recover. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 Brighton are a funny side, they look to play with quality between the lines, but they're a bit blunt. Lots of nice passing, but very little impact - and that's born out by the results they've got so far, lots of draws, defeats where they've 'played well' etc. Fans are getting fidgety with the manager because I think they're seeing it as a tippy tappy approach with no real end product. It will be a tough game though, we should have more of an end product I'd hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 If we're making subs, can we at least chuck N'Lundulu on instead of Long. I don't much care if he's 'ready' or not, he can't be any worse than a complete non-entity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: If we're making subs, can we at least chuck N'Lundulu on instead of Long. I don't much care if he's 'ready' or not, he can't be any worse than a complete non-entity. Long's contributions from the bench are getting a joke now. His lack of goals/assists are well known, but does anyone have an idea of the other stats from his recent appearances: interceptions/tackles/successful passes/chances created? In the last few games, it looks like he's barely touched the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 18 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: Same team for me with Ings and Redmond back on the bench instead of Long and Tella. Agreed. The biggest issue yesterday is we had no impetus from the bench. Imagine being able to bring on Ings and Redmond on the 60 minute mark, would give us a huge boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said: Agreed. The biggest issue yesterday is we had no impetus from the bench. Imagine being able to bring on Ings and Redmond on the 60 minute mark, would give us a huge boost. True, and although I like Armstrong I can't help feeling Covid has taken the edge off his game, although you'd assume the sports science staff would be keeping an eye on his basic health and stats. But I didn't bother to comment on the match reaction thread as the point had already been made: Long and Cavani.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 any news on Salisu? Not very confident about this one. Think that defeat will leave a bit of a scar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 4 hours ago, Lighthouse said: If we're making subs, can we at least chuck N'Lundulu on instead of Long. I don't much care if he's 'ready' or not, he can't be any worse than a complete non-entity. He did come on vs Man Utd yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He did come on vs Man Utd yesterday. You knew exactly what I meant and yet you still said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: He did come on vs Man Utd yesterday. He explicitly said instead of Long? Long is completely spent - he doesn't look like he has a clue what he's supposed to be doing. His substitute appearances now consists of one pointless attempt to close down the keeper within the first minute of coming on (just to show that fabled effort), followed by 10-20 minutes of not even noticing him being on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 November, 2020 Share Posted 30 November, 2020 Will be a tough game, Lallana won't be playing. Hopefully can grab a comfortable win otherwise 3 games without a win sounds a bit different to 7 games without a loss that we had before the Utd game. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimatt Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 (edited) Our 1st half record this season 12 goals scored, 4 conceded. That's tied with Liverpool for best attack and the 2nd best defence behind Spurs. Our 2nd half record is 7 scored, 12 conceded. That's equal last, tied with West Brom, for most goals conceded in the 2nd half. Is it a fitness issue because of the press? I think Ralph needs to start using the bench more. Edited 1 December, 2020 by Ultimatt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ultimatt said: Our 1st half record this season 12 goals scored, 4 conceded. That's tied with Liverpool for best attack and the 2nd best defence behind Spurs. Our 2nd half record is 7 scored, 12 conceded. That's equal last, tied with West Brom, for most goals conceded in the 2nd half. Is it a fitness issue because of the press? I think Ralph needs to start using the bench more. I guess it's a fine line between continuing with the current approach and trying something different. Given we've ended up in 6th place after 10 games, Ralph could argue that as long as our first halves are, on average, good enough to outweigh the down turn in our second halves then it's 'mission accomplished'? Who's to say that squeezing all the juice out of our best 11 players for as long as possible in any given game doesn't yield as many points as spreading the effort over inferior players in the second half? Dunno. I'm no sport scientist so will have to pass on casting an informed view on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 16:45, DarrenLeTiss said: Can't change a lot as we are so limited so got to hope Ings is back, need to get back to winning ways against an improving Brighton. Is Ings that close to being fit to play? Music to my ears if he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: Is Ings that close to being fit to play? Music to my ears if he is. Yes, but doubt he'll start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 4 hours ago, Ultimatt said: Our 2nd half record is 7 scored, 12 conceded. That's equal last, tied with West Brom, for most goals conceded in the 2nd half. Is it a fitness issue because of the press? I think Ralph needs to start using the bench more. Just playing devil's advocate here a bit, but 10 of those 12 were in 3 games (Spurs, Villa and Man U). The Spurs goals were a result of us playing a high line (too high) and very much an aberration at start of the season, Villa was us simply taking our foot off the gas/Bednarek injury and the Man U goals were to a large extent down to some excellent play by them (pains me to say it), especially by Cavani. That leaves 2 2nd half goals conceded in 7 games. Not sure with this evidence that you can blame it on 2nd half fatigue, or even last 10 minutes fatigue. Mind you, I don't pretend to have any answers either, you could [possibly argue that the Bednarek injuries have been significant, but its hard to see that many (or any) of the goals against Manu or Spurs could be attributed to Bednarek's absence or struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 I would rest Armstrong and bring in Diallo for his first start. Let's see what he can do. One wonders if Armstrong might have Long Covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 1 December, 2020 Share Posted 1 December, 2020 2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: I would rest Armstrong and bring in Diallo for his first start. Let's see what he can do. One wonders if Armstrong might have Long Covid. I'd like to see more of Diallo too - and Armstrong is a prime candidate for a "rest". While the post-Covid might be an issue for him, it's the poor touch, control and easy surrender of possession that concerns me about his performances rather than stamina or full fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 13 hours ago, austsaint said: I'd like to see more of Diallo too - and Armstrong is a prime candidate for a "rest". While the post-Covid might be an issue for him, it's the poor touch, control and easy surrender of possession that concerns me about his performances rather than stamina or full fitness. Surely, that's about energy and could well be linked to post virus. I don't think there's anything to worry about Armstrog's skills that a rest can't cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 Just now, eelpie said: Surely, that's about energy and could well be linked to post virus. I don't think there's anything to worry about Armstrog's skills that a rest can't cure. 13 hours ago, austsaint said: I'd like to see more of Diallo too - and Armstrong is a prime candidate for a "rest". While the post-Covid might be an issue for him, it's the poor touch, control and easy surrender of possession that concerns me about his performances rather than stamina or full fitness. I agree, a good time to start Diallo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 22:43, verlaine1979 said: When is Redmond likely to be back? Armstrong has been poor for three games in a row now, giving up possession far too easily and looking leaden-footed. Any chance we could play with both Redmond and Djenepo when both are fit with Armstrong dropped? Armstrong did not have his best game v Man U but he was great in the previous match v Newcastle and clinched the win with the 2nd goal ! He has been pivotal to our system this season and seems to be liked by Ralph so I don't really get the criticism he's receiving on this thread ! I'd play him v Brighton in an unchanged team, hopefully with Ingsey and Redders on the bench !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 2 hours ago, eurosaint said: Armstrong did not have his best game v Man U but he was great in the previous match v Newcastle and clinched the win with the 2nd goal ! He has been pivotal to our system this season and seems to be liked by Ralph so I don't really get the criticism he's receiving on this thread ! I'd play him v Brighton in an unchanged team, hopefully with Ingsey and Redders on the bench !! He was slack in possession and slow on his feet against Newcastle, but a goal inevitably erases criticism. He's been below par for several games now, and looks like he needs a rest/a rethink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 1 hour ago, verlaine1979 said: He was slack in possession and slow on his feet against Newcastle, but a goal inevitably erases criticism. He's been below par for several games now, and looks like he needs a rest/a rethink. Nah, he was good against Newcastle. The goal capped an all round energic/high energy game from him I felt. But I have to agree that he was poor against Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 18:59, Charlie Wayman said: I would rest Armstrong and bring in Diallo for his first start. Let's see what he can do. One wonders if Armstrong might have Long Covid. Obviously he hasn’t got long Covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 I wonder if Brighton having fans back will have any impact. Personally I think we are better without fans, but it seems tonight fans in the stadium is having a positive influence for the home teams around the country.....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SW5 SAINT said: I wonder if Brighton having fans back will have any impact. Personally I think we are better without fans, but it seems tonight fans in the stadium is having a positive influence for the home teams around the country.....! 2,000 fans spread out in a 30,000 capacity stadium isn't going to generate much of an atmosphere to influence the game. Edited 2 December, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 12:54, Ultimatt said: Our 1st half record this season 12 goals scored, 4 conceded. That's tied with Liverpool for best attack and the 2nd best defence behind Spurs. Our 2nd half record is 7 scored, 12 conceded. That's equal last, tied with West Brom, for most goals conceded in the 2nd half. Is it a fitness issue because of the press? I think Ralph needs to start using the bench more. Agree with the last bit, apart from the fact that the quality off the bench isn't very good. Swings and roundabouts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 2 December, 2020 Share Posted 2 December, 2020 On 01/12/2020 at 18:59, Charlie Wayman said: I would rest Armstrong and bring in Diallo for his first start. Let's see what he can do. One wonders if Armstrong might have Long Covid. If he had long covid in any meaningful way he wouldn't be playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 I wouldn’t mind seeing Armstrong given a rest on the bench and playing Theo and Redmond as AMs. If Ings is OK have him up top with Adams. No point playing Long...give a youngster a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 12 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: If he had long covid in any meaningful way he wouldn't be playing. What's in a definition eh? What is known is that some people take a very long time to be restored to full health and fitness after contracting c19. It is not black and white, the term long covid is not defined but used loosely to include a multitude of different recovery trajectories. What is clear is that Armstrong has not performed at his highest level since he contracted the virus so it is reasonable to assume a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 11:40, Lighthouse said: If we're making subs, can we at least chuck N'Lundulu on instead of Long. I don't much care if he's 'ready' or not, he can't be any worse than a complete non-entity. Totally agree about N'ludulu. he span away from a defender brilliantly two games ago when came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 7 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: Totally agree about N'ludulu. he span away from a defender brilliantly two games ago when came on He's looked sharp. Must be a better option than Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 15 hours ago, Turkish said: Obviously he hasn’t got long Covid According to Chris Witty it seems footballers are prone to a very rare mutated strain now known as Shane Long Covid, gradual decline in performances is a symptom so something to watch out for here with Stuart Armstrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 From what I've seen of Brighton so far, we are exactly the type of team that they would want to play at the moment 😟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 December, 2020 Share Posted 3 December, 2020 6 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said: From what I've seen of Brighton so far, we are exactly the type of team that they would want to play at the moment 😟 They are a possession based team. In a game of rock, paper, scissors... high pressing beats playing out from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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