igsey Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 11 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Think the current Man Utd differs in one essential way from previous versions- their Manager doesn’t know how to mould them into a team. Yet. That’s quite the opposite to Saints under Ralph and hopefully it will make the difference. Unchanged side as Redmond is still out, but I hope Djenepo is able to do more than his headless chicken act. 2-1 Saints. Not entirely sure I agree, they have a very clear game plan - get it to the forwards in the box and go over at the slightest touch, win a penalty. I'm not even trying to be condescending, that is literally their main plan and has been evident since Ole came in. The big difference in form is that Fernandes came in who can: a) feed the forwards better b) fall over in the box himself and c) bury the penalties, whereas before Rashford, Pogba and Martial were taking turns to miss them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 21 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said: Beattie 1-0 in 03/04, but other than that we haven't Ferguson had an attack of sour grapes and said Beatty was an old fashioned centre forward just because he headed the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 I’ve been to a few games against United but my personal favourite moment was Chaplow’s thunderbolt in the FA Cup in (I think) the 3rd round in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 https://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.359/ Has to be the least confident I've ever seen a Man Utd pre-match thread against us. There's good reason for that of course, difficult game to call, but we'll have a very good chance of the win as long as we don't have an off-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: https://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.359/ Has to be the least confident I've ever seen a Man Utd pre-match thread against us. There's good reason for that of course, difficult game to call, but we'll have a very good chance of the win as long as we don't have an off-day. It’s Man Utd, we always play really well against them. Apart from a period of about six seconds when we completely forget to mark Yorke, Van Nistelrooy, Owen, Zlatan, Lukaku, Martial or some other apex predator of European football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 The bookies have Utd favourites for this at around evens, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 (edited) Always wary about calling games against lower mid table teams. Edited 26 November, 2020 by VectisSaint 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 Can't see us getting anything without Ings. Utd have a clueless manager but still enough quality. 3-1 Utd (Fernandes pen 22, 56, Rashford 31, Adams 82) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 We haven't lost since 20th sept, we look cohesive and dangerous and only seem to be getting better. Man u defends like the Maginot line, static and unable to deal with movement, their forwards will be starved of the ball. 2-0 us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 26 November, 2020 Share Posted 26 November, 2020 3 hours ago, LeG said: Gary Neville also said the grass was too long 😂 The grass was too long - Strachan asked the groundsman to skip the last pre match cut and not water the grass. Funny really as we had to play on the same surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 11 hours ago, Saint_Tony said: Can't see us getting anything without Ings. Utd have a clueless manager but still enough quality. 3-1 Utd (Fernandes pen 22, 56, Rashford 31, Adams 82) That's a very specific prediction. If you're right I'll eat my hat send you money to buy me a lottery ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 I reckon they will get a couple of dodgy penalties so Saints will need to score 3 to win.Which is possible. COYR! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 With a week's good training behind us, Bertie and JWP more match fit and Djenepo & Armstrong back on song after their wayward performances last time out we could be in very good shape indeed. If we can re-establish our fluidity and automatism we might surprise a few people. Of course they have good attacking options with pace and flair so our back four and the two DMFs will need to be at their best to give us belief. Going forward we are always a threat so the trick will be to use home advantage to keep us on the front foot with the high press. Their defence isn't that well organised so there are goals for us to be taken. Adams and Walcott need to be sharp, not so sharp as to be over-hasty but cool-headed sharp. They will likely resort to the long ball over the top routine to beat the press as the game wears on so the big lads at the back will need to be focused to deal with their counter-attacks. We won't stop them all sadly so for me it is almost a guaranteed 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Lawro has us down to lose so we'll be OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: so the trick will be to use home advantage What home advantage? I suppose not having a negative Saints crowd is an advantage! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 United to win 3-1 my prediction. They've won 7 consecutive premier league away games, we've not beaten them at home for 17 years. It shouldn't matter but these sort of patterns often hold for whatever reason. Ings and Redmond missing for us removes some of our attacking threat. They'll hit us on the break. One of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 5 minutes ago, JRM said: United to win 3-1 my prediction. They've won 7 consecutive premier league away games, we've not beaten them at home for 17 years. How we did vs Man Utd in 2005 or 2013 or 2015 is completely irrelevant to Sunday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 5 minutes ago, JRM said: United to win 3-1 my prediction. They've won 7 consecutive premier league away games, we've not beaten them at home for 17 years. It shouldn't matter but these sort of patterns often hold for whatever reason. Ings and Redmond missing for us removes some of our attacking threat. They'll hit us on the break. One of those things. How I see it too. I think performance wise we will do OK, but ultimately they will have too much quality in attack. Bruno Fernandes is going in as captain of my Fantasy team this week I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 20 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: https://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.359/ Has to be the least confident I've ever seen a Man Utd pre-match thread against us. There's good reason for that of course, difficult game to call, but we'll have a very good chance of the win as long as we don't have an off-day. On the Manure site about Saints:- 'They are arguably the best pressing team in the world. VDB has to play this game.' Another fan is relying on VAR, lol. Both teams' fans seem to be cautious of each other. Neither overconfident about this game, which suggest a draw is predicted. I'd take that, provided we all play to our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Just now, LeG said: Imagine if we absolutely stuff them. Its going to happen to a team at some point. and vice versa... oh it already has happened against Spurs 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Just having a look at the table again, a win here against mid table teams like Utd will really start to open up a gap between them and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 November, 2020 Author Share Posted 27 November, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 Shame Pogba could be missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 23 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: https://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.359/ Has to be the least confident I've ever seen a Man Utd pre-match thread against us. There's good reason for that of course, difficult game to call, but we'll have a very good chance of the win as long as we don't have an off-day. Enjoying some of their comments about hoofing it being their best approach. What would Fergie say!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 They’ve been tepid in the league lately. As usual they’ll realize it’s us and turn it on for 20 minutes to win 3–2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 6 hours ago, waylander said: Lawro has us down to lose so we'll be OK But Joe Cole has us to win. I do not think we need fear Man U atm given current form of both teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: Shame Pogba could be missing. Yes, good point. He is a very good player but sometimes holds on to the ball too long. In recent games we have been very good in pressing him and getting hr turnover. It might be more difficult this year - although we have been focussing on full backs for the press, so maybe the triggers will still be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 (edited) This is far away from the Man U teams of years past.Not saying don't have some good players,obviously they do.Just saying I am feeling way more confident in us in this one than have felt against them for awhile. Obviously no Ings or Redmond hinders us but still see no reason can't get the 3 points. We shall see. Edited 27 November, 2020 by Pickles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 (edited) They are not very good but they seem quite flukey, Brighton battered them at home and somehow lost. Without Ings we don't have the most efficient scorers and I think we would need to converting the sort of chance that Walcott failed to convert against Wolves to make sure of a win. Plus they are likely to get a pen as they seem to always get pens, refs seem to be desperate to help them out. Not sure Pogba being out is actually a good thing for us, he's exactly the type of player that would struggle against our team, having to track runs, constantly getting pressed and having Ward-Prowse in his ear all game. Pogba is a bit of a passenger when they don't have the ball, fails to track runners, makes clumsy tackles etc. McTominay on the other hand is probably a bigger miss, he puts in a real shift for them, is decent in the air and is disciplined. Can seeing us losing like 2-1, think their raw counter attacking pace might catch us out and feel we might not take our chances. I think of the 'big six' our style is least suited to Uts and maybe Spurs because both those teams have basically evolved into counter attacking teams. Edited 27 November, 2020 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 27 November, 2020 Share Posted 27 November, 2020 2 hours ago, tajjuk said: Not sure Pogba being out is actually a good thing for us, he's exactly the type of player that would struggle against our team, having to track runs, constantly getting pressed and having Ward-Prowse in his ear all game. Pogba is a bit of a passenger when they don't have the ball, fails to track runners, makes clumsy tackles etc. Couldn't agree more. I don't watch much Man U but when I do Pogba looks like a weak link. I'm not particularly confident about Sunday but was looking forward to watching him not coping with the pressure. Last time I saw him live was the 2-2 at home. He was poor that day and it was Lemina making things very hard for him. Lemina was better that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 November, 2020 Share Posted 28 November, 2020 Did I hear Ralph in his pre-match say Ings could be back for this game or did I imagine that? Would be a big boost if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 28 November, 2020 Share Posted 28 November, 2020 48 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Did I hear Ralph in his pre-match say Ings could be back for this game or did I imagine that? Would be a big boost if so. Back for Brighton. Out on Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 28 November, 2020 Share Posted 28 November, 2020 On 27/11/2020 at 10:42, SNSUN said: Bruno Fernandes is going in as captain of my Fantasy team this week I think. Snap. Hedging my bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 28 November, 2020 Share Posted 28 November, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 14:49, Jimmy_D said: https://www.redcafe.net/matches/southampton-vs-manchester-united.359/ Has to be the least confident I've ever seen a Man Utd pre-match thread against us. There's good reason for that of course, difficult game to call, but we'll have a very good chance of the win as long as we don't have an off-day. From that forum: 'They are arguably the best pressing team in the world.' 😳 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 On 26/11/2020 at 00:07, Turkish said: Incredible isn’t it. I thought the joiners thing might be a give away. Two things if I had a pound for I’d be relatively rich. People who swear blind they were at the saints game we beat Man U 6-3 and they changed their shirts and people who claim they were there at the joiners to see Nirvana. Both never happened but I’ve met hundreds of people who claim they did as they were there. Funnily enough, went to Brixton Academy that night to see the Chemical Bros. Great night, nearly wore my Saints top, though would have been a bit Noddy. Got mashed instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Come on let's do this today! I really do think we can continue our unbeaten run today - another 2-0 victory at home with Theo and Che the scorers COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 I am very excited looking forward to this game but why so few posts on this thread. I hope the manager uses his subs better today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Draw is my prediction. I'd be more optimistic if this was at Old Trafford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 56 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: I am very excited looking forward to this game but why so few posts on this thread. I hope the manager uses his subs better today ive been hoping the same thing for a while. the one thing ralph doesnt seem to get right in my view. subs are often made far too late or to not much effect at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 31 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I'd be more optimistic if this was at Old Trafford One empty stadium vs another empty stadium Home or away doesn't really matter at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: One empty stadium vs another empty stadium Home or away doesn't really matter at the moment And yet United have won seven away games in a row and had a terrible recent record at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 5 minutes ago, Appy said: And yet United have won seven away games in a row and had a terrible recent record at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: Oh, your go to when you’re wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 Unchanged 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Oh, your go to when you’re wrong. Not wrong... What you said is irrelevant. There is no real advantage to be had from being at home or away at the moment. Your post was not a rebuttal to that. Edited 29 November, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Unchanged 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Not wrong... What you said is irrelevant. There is no real advantage to be had from being at home or away at the moment. Your post was not a rebuttal to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 19 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: One empty stadium vs another empty stadium Home or away doesn't really matter at the moment It does. MLT said instinctively knew where goal was knowing the Dell so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 8 minutes ago, Appy said: Unchanged Cheers again 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 29 November, 2020 Share Posted 29 November, 2020 1 minute ago, whelk said: It does. MLT said instinctively knew where goal was knowing the Dell so well. Pretty sure the goals are always in the same place regardless of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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