nta786 Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, USA-Saint-Fan said: I’ll admit to still learning the subtleties of football, but why don’t more teams do this more often? I liken it to switch defenses in basketball from man-to-man to different type of zone defense in an attempt to confuse the opponent and foil their offensive plan that is predicated on you playing a specific formation. It wouldn’t have to be done often or for long. But if you can get the opponent spending time trying to figure out what formation you are playing, I think it would help. Is there a reason that this is a bad idea, e.g. lack of player skill flexibility to execute different formations? Thanks for assisting in my education. I think it depends- I don’t know much about basketball in fairness but I think constantly switching formation you may shoot yourself in the foot as instructions become confusing. Also without meaning to sound ignorant, I feel like basketball players can easily switch positions because traits tend to be generic i.e. tall strong players? In football you really need the personnel to switch formation and roles- a left footed player might not work on the otherside, another player may not have speed to play on the wing, others may lack the brain to move into centre half etc etc. Ultimately as well though- if it isn’t broke then don’t fix it!
The Cat Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Ok so it's 2 goals down at half time. Apparently they came from 2 behind to beat Watford at some point.
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 If we're still 2-0 up after the first 10 mins or so I'd be tempted to bring on Diallo for Redmond and push JWP a bit further up
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint_clark said: Redmonds first contribution of the second half is to give away a free kick, carry on from.where you left off mate. Sorry to keep going on about it but Ings and Adams get on the ball, they look sharp and move with urgency. Pass it to redmond and it slows right down as if he doesn't care at all.
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Another thing that Redmond does that annoys me no end is stop dead when he gets the ball out wide, instead of whipping in a early cross he waits and waits and then invariably gives it back to a mid, that goes back to a defender.
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, Saint_clark said: How is that not a penalty??? Because Bertrand catches the defender's leg rather than the other way around..?
USA-Saint-Fan Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, nta786 said: I think it depends- I don’t know much about basketball in fairness but I think constantly switching formation you may shoot yourself in the foot as instructions become confusing. Also without meaning to sound ignorant, I feel like basketball players can easily switch positions because traits tend to be generic i.e. tall strong players? In football you really need the personnel to switch formation and roles- a left footed player might not work on the otherside, another player may not have speed to play on the wing, others may lack the brain to move into centre half etc etc. Ultimately as well though- if it isn’t broke then don’t fix it! Thanks! Your explanation makes sense and I agree that you do need to take into account your player capabilities. I wasn’t thinking of constantly changing, but maybe moving from the 4-2-2-2 to a 4-3-3 or maybe a 4-2-3-1 or something for a bit and then changing back. Something where you only need to move one or two players. It would certainly take communication so that all players know what to do.
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Oh for the love of God please get Redmond off.
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wes Tender said: Redmond....oh dear Fuck, 20 feet over the bar. I’m better than that and I’m 47 and play on fields that look like cabbage patches. Edited 25 October, 2020 by OttawaSaint
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 6 minutes ago, trousers said: If we're still 2-0 up after the first 10 mins or so I'd be tempted to bring on Diallo for Redmond and push JWP a bit further up Come on Ralph. 10 mins up...
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Really stupid from walker peters. Guaranteed goal from this. 2
Mr X Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Redmond doesn't warrant his place at the moment, there's a good player in there but right now it isn't there
Micky Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Getting sloppy, giving the ball away all over the place
egg Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, igsey said: Redmond off for Tella please Ralph. Diallo for me. Push JWP further up.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Always believed that Redmond would develop but he's quite literally the same player we bought. Hopefully his time is limited moving forwards with Theo and Djenepo. 1
Dorchester Saint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint_clark said: Really stupid from walker peters. Guaranteed goal from this. LOL!! Why is it guaranteed you wet wipe? 2
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Changes there instantly making a difference for Everton.
DT Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Ralph needs to change this. Redmond off for diallo Please before the goal that feels like it’s coming
nta786 Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Theyve used all 3 subs up. be unfortunate if they were to get an injury let’s play 10 v 10- redmond do the job
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, Dorchester Saint said: LOL!! Why is it guaranteed you wet wipe? If Sigurdsson had shot it would have gone, really bizarre they went for the cross.
egg Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, igsey said: 2-0 down and they bring on Gordon and Delph?? Getting bossed in midfield. Makes sense.
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Ings should have played stu in there. Come on Saints get the 3rd.
Wes Tender Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 It looks as if we have at the very least the chance to go further ahead
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 We are pressing really well. You always hear “they wanted it more”. We look like we want it more. Hope we can hold on for the 3 deserved points.
igsey Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, DT said: So much passing back. Gives me the jitters. No problems with it for me when we're 2-0 up, looking fairly comfortable and they don't exactly have workhorses up top.
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Just now, igsey said: No problems with it for me when we're 2-0 up, looking fairly comfortable and they don't exactly have workhorses up top. Ssssshhhhhh ( FFS )
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Plastic said: Romeu having a great game Agreed.
egg Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, DT said: Get. Redmond. Off. He's having a mare but has no confidence at all by the looks of it. Take him off and he'll lose a bit more. Tough call for Ralph.
Waterside.saint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 (edited) Should be 4-0 up. This Saints side has real class and its wonderful to see Edited 25 October, 2020 by Waterside.saint
Mr X Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Plastic said: Romeu having a great game Agree zero pace but reads the game well and good distribution
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 (edited) I hate being a Saints fan... Sitting here as jittery as f*** despite my team seemingly cruising along at 2-0 up with 25 mins to go... Edited 25 October, 2020 by trousers
egg Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, Plastic said: Romeu having a great game Yep. Been excellent.
bpsaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Great turn and ball from Adams there. We really need to get our grip back on this though.
Saint_clark Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 That was better from Redmond and highlights why he's such a frustrating player, he has the ability to go past players like they aren't even there but so often just opts for a sideways or backwards pass.
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