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Pilchards

Pilchards

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Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well.

Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange.

Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield.

Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us.

Jeremy

Jeremy

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11 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Tough, tough game.

Ralph with a good week to work with the players.  Need to get Armstrong & Djenepo back into contention.

Yes. Realistically I'd say the odds favour Everton so I'll be looking to place my usual small bet elsewhere.

Teddeer

Teddeer

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Need to match their physical approach as they are clearly not adverse to clogging the opposition as Liverpool found yesterday. Could be the influence of Duncan Ferguson.

steve green

steve green

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Pace is the key.

If we continue to have both backs so high up the pitch we'll always be open to the fast counter attack.

They (unfortunately) have a decent manager who does tactics 'n' stuff, so will be a tough one.

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qwertyell

qwertyell

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They'll be without Richarlison, though - and there's no obvious like-for-like replacement in their ranks. Iwobi is slow as shit, Walcott has joined somebody else, I forget who. Bernard has Jake Hesketh's body, only weaker.

Credit to Everton, they've started the season well, but they're not too special. We can have a good day against them if we turn up.

Goalkeeper's a total clown.

tajjuk

tajjuk

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High scoring draw, key will be stopping the crosses in Calvert-Lewin and finding a way to shackle James Rodriguez who I have to say has surprised me, thought he was a spent force physically who would struggle in this league but is doing very well so far.

Certainly think we'll create chances against them though, neither centre-back impresses me much, Pickford is an accident waiting to happen (probably a blessing for us he didn't get red carded and banned) and both their full backs bomb on a lot and leave space. 

Richarlison is a big loss for them as well.

Plus always feel more comfortable when the team has a full week to prepare. 

Charlie Wayman

Charlie Wayman

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Theo Walcott may not be able to play but his insider knowledge of Everton players and tactics must be of use to our coaching staff. 

Ralph may have a selection headache in midfield but no doubt will field the same starting XI as yesterday with Armstrong in for Theo.

People have been too harsh on Jan Bednarek this weekend, they should remember that he played a lot of minutes for Poland during the break. He will be much better next weekend. The idea of recalling Stevens horrifies me.

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Dusic

Dusic

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Rodriguez is quality on the ball but shocking off it, and doesn't track back a huge amount. 

Bertrand could exploit that a few times.

A good game to see where we are at. No Intl break excuses, a week to prepare and will face a team that will play to win and will give us space.

Tony F

Tony F

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13 hours ago, qwertyell said:

 

..........Goalkeeper's a total clown.

Wouldn't disagree but he's now proved what a reckless clown he is, which is a tad worrying.  

Our front two need to keep an eye on him if he starts tearing around the penalty area.

He needs stopping......

Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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44 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Anything from this game is a bonus, Everton regularly beat us when they are poor, now they are quite good. 

True that but knowing saints we will go out and beat them (personally I’ll be happy with the draw).

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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18 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Personally I'd be pretty happy with 3 points out of our next 2 games. Anything more will be excellent. 

I’d take two draws right now, given they’re the two form teams in the league.

Wurzel

Wurzel

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18 hours ago, tajjuk said:

High scoring draw, key will be stopping the crosses in Calvert-Lewin and finding a way to shackle James Rodriguez who I have to say has surprised me, thought he was a spent force physically who would struggle in this league but is doing very well so far.

Certainly think we'll create chances against them though, neither centre-back impresses me much, Pickford is an accident waiting to happen (probably a blessing for us he didn't get red carded and banned) and both their full backs bomb on a lot and leave space. 

Richarlison is a big loss for them as well.

Plus always feel more comfortable when the team has a full week to prepare. 

He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong.

One thing I would put money on, this  won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw.

 

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Saint Garrett

Saint Garrett

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18 minutes ago, Wurzel said:

He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong.

One thing I would put money on, this  won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw.

 

That happened last night.

waylander

waylander

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50 minutes ago, Wurzel said:

He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong.

One thing I would put money on, this  won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw.

 

No further action to be taken against Pickford   https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54601721

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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27 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Ah just seen, not going to lie, I have very little interest in football that's not saints atm. Even Saints I didn't watch due to the bloody paywall.

The way MOTD highlights got later and later into the match, I thought one of these is going to nick it at the death.....................by all accounts it was a hard watch.

Dorchester Saint

Dorchester Saint

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On 18/10/2020 at 09:46, Pilchards said:

Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well.

Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange.

Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield.

Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us.

*Calvert-Lewin 

SNSUN

SNSUN

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4 hours ago, Wurzel said:

He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong.

One thing I would put money on, this  won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw.

 

Looks so far as if that will be today....

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

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Seeing as Diallo was on the bench and had a spin out for a few minutes, I'm guessing that he is somewhere up to near Ralphs readiness, with Theo out due to it being against his home club - and we don't know what the Armstrong situation is re his Covid positive test, maybe we will see him on Sunday from the start with JWP (seeing as no position is a challenge for him) and him switching positions through the game. When KWP has a trip up the wing JWP often slides into right back as cover, and we all know JWP has been used at right back before.

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DT

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Just read someone at 'the other place' saying Theo has a hamstring injury and out for a month. Can't see this anywhere else though.

saintquin

saintquin

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Can't make my mind up about Everton.

Are they where they should be or are they on a purple patch waiting to come back to what they were.

Could, obviously, go either way, just don't think I would waste a pound trying to predict which way!

Totton Saint

Totton Saint

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On 18/10/2020 at 09:46, Pilchards said:

Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well.

Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange.

Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield.

Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us.

How can you sayVest cannot head attacking balls after the goal he headed last Saturday

VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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1 hour ago, Totton Saint said:

How can you sayVest cannot head attacking balls after the goal he headed last Saturday

He didn't, he said he is not so good in the air attacking wise. Vest was stooping and on his knees when he flicked on Walcott's cross/strike. Hardly "in the air".

verlaine1979

verlaine1979

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On 18/10/2020 at 01:46, Pilchards said:

Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well.

Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange.

Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield.

Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us.

Odd, I'm often struck by how rarely Vest seems to jump when defending in the air. If he can win it simply by stooping over his opponent, he will, but if someone is jumping up to contest him, he's much less dominant.

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Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly.

saintquin

saintquin

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11 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly.

Agree. I think Everton may struggle against the press but, such a high line of defence to me is a bit more a bit more of a worry to me.

Harry_SFC

Harry_SFC

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It'll be interesting to see whether Everton opt to go for Godfrey at right back or Jonjoe Kenny who has just recovered from an ankle injury.

We should definitely get at them - Iwobi nor James are interested in defending so there should be some space down the flanks.

Also no silly free kicks being conceded outside the box, they're top of the list for headed goals in the last year. 

Charlie Wayman

Charlie Wayman

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12 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly.

Carlo Ancelotti has won 20 trophies in his career, he is a superb manager and would not have rolled up at Goodison Park if he could not have seen real potential to win more trophies there. It's not that he needs the money or the risk of damaging to his reputation on no-hopers. In the same way as Ralph Hasenhüttl has seemingly transformed Saints' fortunes in relative short order why should we not expect Everton players to respond and adapt to Ancelotti in the way that they have?

Of course some of their players are the same 'dross' that we have seen before but then again so are half the Saints team. Forget what has gone before this is a new Everton and a totally different challenge for us.

We are playing well (at times) and there is no reason why our "work in progress" team cannot go there and match their "work in progress" team and we have the advantage of being together longer. It will be a tough game and we need to be at our best for 95 minutes not 45 but we have home advantage in front of our own empty seats so 2-1 is on the cards if we turn up that is.

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Forester

Forester

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16 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly.

To be honest I wou,d have thought this was absolutely a game to press high and keep high line.  With no Richarlison, the threat is aerial via DCL and you don’t want to be defending in your penalty area.  I also think that getting upfront and personal with James and Gomez is the right way to go

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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Quick look on their forum, pretty confident. Can't see one post saying they will lose......then again there is 30 odd pages so I didn't scroll through them all.

Fancy a least a point from this. Couple of knee high challenges after the whistle has blown will really put it up 'em.

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