SuperSAINT Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Tough, tough game. Ralph with a good week to work with the players. Need to get Armstrong & Djenepo back into contention. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Presumably Richarlison will be suspended .😁 But no Theo. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Armstrong straight in for Walcott and possibly Salisu on the bench instead of Stephens. Otherwise unchanged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 9 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: Otherwise unchanged. Drop Bednerek for Stephens, and Redmond for anyone after last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well. Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange. Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield. Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 11 hours ago, SuperSAINT said: Tough, tough game. Ralph with a good week to work with the players. Need to get Armstrong & Djenepo back into contention. Yes. Realistically I'd say the odds favour Everton so I'll be looking to place my usual small bet elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Everton are a bit like us, brilliant going forward, not that good defensively, although better than Chelsea in that area. Will be a good game, and very very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Beating the latest media darlings would be rather satisfying. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Need to match their physical approach as they are clearly not adverse to clogging the opposition as Liverpool found yesterday. Could be the influence of Duncan Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Pace is the key. If we continue to have both backs so high up the pitch we'll always be open to the fast counter attack. They (unfortunately) have a decent manager who does tactics 'n' stuff, so will be a tough one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 They'll be without Richarlison, though - and there's no obvious like-for-like replacement in their ranks. Iwobi is slow as shit, Walcott has joined somebody else, I forget who. Bernard has Jake Hesketh's body, only weaker. Credit to Everton, they've started the season well, but they're not too special. We can have a good day against them if we turn up. Goalkeeper's a total clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 High scoring draw, key will be stopping the crosses in Calvert-Lewin and finding a way to shackle James Rodriguez who I have to say has surprised me, thought he was a spent force physically who would struggle in this league but is doing very well so far. Certainly think we'll create chances against them though, neither centre-back impresses me much, Pickford is an accident waiting to happen (probably a blessing for us he didn't get red carded and banned) and both their full backs bomb on a lot and leave space. Richarlison is a big loss for them as well. Plus always feel more comfortable when the team has a full week to prepare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Theo Walcott may not be able to play but his insider knowledge of Everton players and tactics must be of use to our coaching staff. Ralph may have a selection headache in midfield but no doubt will field the same starting XI as yesterday with Armstrong in for Theo. People have been too harsh on Jan Bednarek this weekend, they should remember that he played a lot of minutes for Poland during the break. He will be much better next weekend. The idea of recalling Stevens horrifies me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 18 October, 2020 Share Posted 18 October, 2020 Rodriguez is quality on the ball but shocking off it, and doesn't track back a huge amount. Bertrand could exploit that a few times. A good game to see where we are at. No Intl break excuses, a week to prepare and will face a team that will play to win and will give us space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 13 hours ago, qwertyell said: ..........Goalkeeper's a total clown. Wouldn't disagree but he's now proved what a reckless clown he is, which is a tad worrying. Our front two need to keep an eye on him if he starts tearing around the penalty area. He needs stopping...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 Anything from this game is a bonus, Everton regularly beat us when they are poor, now they are quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 44 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Anything from this game is a bonus, Everton regularly beat us when they are poor, now they are quite good. True that but knowing saints we will go out and beat them (personally I’ll be happy with the draw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 I’d be disappointed if we don’t at least get a point. They are improved but by no means perfect. if we have aims of finishing in the top half we should be aiming to get something against the likes of Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 Personally I'd be pretty happy with 3 points out of our next 2 games. Anything more will be excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 18 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Personally I'd be pretty happy with 3 points out of our next 2 games. Anything more will be excellent. I’d take two draws right now, given they’re the two form teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 18 hours ago, tajjuk said: High scoring draw, key will be stopping the crosses in Calvert-Lewin and finding a way to shackle James Rodriguez who I have to say has surprised me, thought he was a spent force physically who would struggle in this league but is doing very well so far. Certainly think we'll create chances against them though, neither centre-back impresses me much, Pickford is an accident waiting to happen (probably a blessing for us he didn't get red carded and banned) and both their full backs bomb on a lot and leave space. Richarlison is a big loss for them as well. Plus always feel more comfortable when the team has a full week to prepare. He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong. One thing I would put money on, this won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 18 minutes ago, Wurzel said: He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong. One thing I would put money on, this won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw. That happened last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 19 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint Garrett said: That happened last night. Check again 👀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 50 minutes ago, Wurzel said: He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong. One thing I would put money on, this won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw. No further action to be taken against Pickford https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54601721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 43 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: That happened last night. Almost did....!! But Villa won it 1-0 in the last few secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 Ah just seen, not going to lie, I have very little interest in football that's not saints atm. Even Saints I didn't watch due to the bloody paywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 27 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Ah just seen, not going to lie, I have very little interest in football that's not saints atm. Even Saints I didn't watch due to the bloody paywall. The way MOTD highlights got later and later into the match, I thought one of these is going to nick it at the death.....................by all accounts it was a hard watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 1 hour ago, waylander said: No further action to be taken against Pickford https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54601721 No sure if this is a good thing. Gives us a better chance of winning, but I don't want him anywhere near Ings' ACL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 09:46, Pilchards said: Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well. Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange. Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield. Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us. *Calvert-Lewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 4 hours ago, Wurzel said: He must know he was lucky to get away with that. Hopefully will make him hesitate for a split second before committing himself next game, often that's all the time an attacker neds. Or even morehopefully the referees union will decide some karma is needed and be looking for any reason to right a wrong. One thing I would put money on, this won't be this seasons first 0-0 draw. Looks so far as if that will be today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 4 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Ah just seen, not going to lie, I have very little interest in football that's not saints atm. Even Saints I didn't watch due to the bloody paywall. Don't know what the telly situation is for Everton but this was class from the barcodes https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54597058 and we should do something similar next time we're on at £15 a pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 19 October, 2020 Share Posted 19 October, 2020 It's on Sky so if the pubs are open I hope to see the game.. But if we ever did this for Southampton I'd contribute even if I haven't got a telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 (edited) Seeing as Diallo was on the bench and had a spin out for a few minutes, I'm guessing that he is somewhere up to near Ralphs readiness, with Theo out due to it being against his home club - and we don't know what the Armstrong situation is re his Covid positive test, maybe we will see him on Sunday from the start with JWP (seeing as no position is a challenge for him) and him switching positions through the game. When KWP has a trip up the wing JWP often slides into right back as cover, and we all know JWP has been used at right back before. Edited 20 October, 2020 by John Boy Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 15 hours ago, LaptopSaint said: Don't know what the telly situation is for Everton but this was class from the barcodes https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54597058 and we should do something similar next time we're on at £15 a pop. It seems to be a regular scheduled Sky Sports match so should be £9.99 for a day pass if you don't have Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 Just read someone at 'the other place' saying Theo has a hamstring injury and out for a month. Can't see this anywhere else though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 Alex KWP, Stephens, Vest, Bertrand JWP, Romeu Armstrong, Redmond Ings, Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 Can't make my mind up about Everton. Are they where they should be or are they on a purple patch waiting to come back to what they were. Could, obviously, go either way, just don't think I would waste a pound trying to predict which way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 09:46, Pilchards said: Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well. Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange. Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield. Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us. How can you sayVest cannot head attacking balls after the goal he headed last Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 1 hour ago, Totton Saint said: How can you sayVest cannot head attacking balls after the goal he headed last Saturday He didn't, he said he is not so good in the air attacking wise. Vest was stooping and on his knees when he flicked on Walcott's cross/strike. Hardly "in the air". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 Salisu bench 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 On 18/10/2020 at 01:46, Pilchards said: Vestergaard gets great height when defending which is so important as Calvin-Lewis leaps so well. Attacking wise Vestergaard is not so good in the air which is strange. Need Armstrong back for this and we must press to close down the Everton midfield. Hoping Richarlison is out suspended plus Coleman who got injured which is good for us. Odd, I'm often struck by how rarely Vest seems to jump when defending in the air. If he can win it simply by stooping over his opponent, he will, but if someone is jumping up to contest him, he's much less dominant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 On 19/10/2020 at 08:14, Tony F said: Wouldn't disagree but he's now proved what a reckless clown he is, which is a tad worrying. Our front two need to keep an eye on him if he starts tearing around the penalty area. He needs stopping...... Already had a go at Ings previously - https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/16505157.southampton-manager-mark-hughes-sides-2-1-defeat-everton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 October, 2020 Share Posted 20 October, 2020 5 hours ago, Master Bates said: Salisu bench 😊 Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 9 hours ago, trousers said: Source? Law of averages 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 11 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly. Agree. I think Everton may struggle against the press but, such a high line of defence to me is a bit more a bit more of a worry to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 It'll be interesting to see whether Everton opt to go for Godfrey at right back or Jonjoe Kenny who has just recovered from an ankle injury. We should definitely get at them - Iwobi nor James are interested in defending so there should be some space down the flanks. Also no silly free kicks being conceded outside the box, they're top of the list for headed goals in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 12 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly. Carlo Ancelotti has won 20 trophies in his career, he is a superb manager and would not have rolled up at Goodison Park if he could not have seen real potential to win more trophies there. It's not that he needs the money or the risk of damaging to his reputation on no-hopers. In the same way as Ralph Hasenhüttl has seemingly transformed Saints' fortunes in relative short order why should we not expect Everton players to respond and adapt to Ancelotti in the way that they have? Of course some of their players are the same 'dross' that we have seen before but then again so are half the Saints team. Forget what has gone before this is a new Everton and a totally different challenge for us. We are playing well (at times) and there is no reason why our "work in progress" team cannot go there and match their "work in progress" team and we have the advantage of being together longer. It will be a tough game and we need to be at our best for 95 minutes not 45 but we have home advantage in front of our own empty seats so 2-1 is on the cards if we turn up that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 16 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Something has clicked at Everton and it’s largely the managers responsibility. I don’t think we’ll get something from this unless we’re a little more conservative with the press by not taking such a high line. Fingers crossed for Armstrong otherwise it could be ugly. To be honest I wou,d have thought this was absolutely a game to press high and keep high line. With no Richarlison, the threat is aerial via DCL and you don’t want to be defending in your penalty area. I also think that getting upfront and personal with James and Gomez is the right way to go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 21 October, 2020 Share Posted 21 October, 2020 (edited) Quick look on their forum, pretty confident. Can't see one post saying they will lose......then again there is 30 odd pages so I didn't scroll through them all. Fancy a least a point from this. Couple of knee high challenges after the whistle has blown will really put it up 'em. Edited 21 October, 2020 by skintsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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