Toadhall Saint Posted 16 October, 2020 Share Posted 16 October, 2020 35 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Salisu still 'weeks away' apparently. WTF is wrong with him? Had he never seen a football before he came here or something? What does he have to get used to that he didn't get in Spain? We signed him back at the end of July (we delayed the announcement for 3 weeks for some reason) and he still hasn't played a min of first team or b team football. No media unveiling, no pictures of his first day etc - very much in the Trousers camp of this entire WTF situation. RH seems ok with it https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news/mohammed-salisu-southampton-injury-news-4610430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 16 October, 2020 Share Posted 16 October, 2020 Isn't Ralph just very particular about the level of fitness and preparation the player have? If he had an injury or illness that basically kept him out of most of pre-season, then it would be understandable it would take him a while to get back to full fitness and Ralphs standards. Plus if it was an injury then they probably didn't want to rush him and risk aggravating it again for no reason when we have 3 fit centre-backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 October, 2020 Share Posted 16 October, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, tajjuk said: Isn't Ralph just very particular about the level of fitness and preparation the player have? If he had an injury or illness that basically kept him out of most of pre-season, then it would be understandable it would take him a while to get back to full fitness and Ralphs standards. Plus if it was an injury then they probably didn't want to rush him and risk aggravating it again for no reason when we have 3 fit centre-backs. I think the point is that we simply don't know what the reason for his protracted introduction to the team and/or media is (as born out by the 'ifs' in your post, for example). No doubt its all perfectly innocent and understandable, and there may be some reasons of confidentiality that has led to media team refraining from their usual new signing exposure, but given there hasn't been any explanation (AFAIK) then its only natural that inquisitive folks such as myself will continue to ponder on why he's being treated differently to our other signings (from a publicity perspective at least). Edited 16 October, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alehouseboys Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 (edited) In an ideal world, with Walcott going straight in, he would have had a week on the training field with all the first team, he's likely only trained with Ings, JWP, etc. yesterday. Tough place to start, and then drops straight back out again next week for the Everton match. Not expecting too much, a point today would be a very good result. ".....LA-LA-LA-LA THEEE-OOOOOOOOO!" Edited 17 October, 2020 by alehouseboys Thought I'd add a little rousing chant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 10:31, rudi7s said: Do we worry about Salisu if not in the squad for this? How bloody unfit was he when he arrived?? Surely he should have had a medical just before we signed him. If not fit he should not have been signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 17 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: Surely he should have had a medical just before we signed him. If not fit he should not have been signed Would you not have signed Van Dijk if he’d been injured for 3 months at Celtic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Would you not have signed Van Dijk if he’d been injured for 3 months at Celtic? If the club were open with fans and came out and said "We've signed Salisu but be aware that he's got injury X and won't be fit until November, just in case you start to wonder what's occuring" at the outset then it would have nipped the uncertainty and questioning in the bud. To me, it's not an issue if Salisu came with a 3+ month injury, it's the absence of transparency that I find curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 17 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, trousers said: If the club were open with fans and came out and said "We've signed Salisu but be aware that he's got injury X and won't be fit until November, just in case you start to wonder what's occuring" at the outset then it would have nipped the uncertainty and questioning in the bud. To me, it's not an issue if Salisu came with a 3+ month injury, it's the absence of transparency that I find curious. Going by the training gallery, he has been back for several weeks now and is apparently training hard to achieve match fitness. I think it’s as much a selection choice at the moment, whilst he learns our system to Ralph’s satisfaction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Going by the training gallery, he has been back for several weeks now and is apparently training hard to achieve match fitness. I think it’s as much a selection choice at the moment, whilst he learns our system to Ralph’s satisfaction. Wouldn't he be on the bench if that were the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Just now, Lighthouse said: Going by the training gallery, he has been back for several weeks now and is apparently training hard to achieve match fitness. I think it’s as much a selection choice at the moment, whilst he learns our system to Ralph’s satisfaction. What is the point of a medical prior to signing. If injured then negotiate a lower transfer fee. Surprised no comment about Ing's goal for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Wouldn't he be on the bench if that were the case? Don't you need to play to get match fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 17 October, 2020 14 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Wouldn't he be on the bench if that were the case? Clearly Ralph thinks Stephens and Vest are the better options right now. 13 minutes ago, Totton Saint said: What is the point of a medical prior to signing. If injured then negotiate a lower transfer fee. Surprised no comment about Ing's goal for England To ensure there are no injuries likely to cause long term issues and prevent him from ever playing for us. I’m no doctor or physio but I’d imagine things like serious ligament damage, vision issues and heart murmurs are all checked for. Not sure what you mean about Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Anyone know how best to go about getting a dodgy stream these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 27 minutes ago, sambosa75 said: Anyone know how best to go about getting a dodgy stream these days? Download the universal TV app for your iPad or phone, has 4 or 5 good streams for every single sporting event. Thank me later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Walcott starting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Appy said: Walcott starting Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Diallo on bench 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Appy said: Diallo on bench Salisu to start in 2034...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 minute ago, trousers said: Salisu to start in 2034...? No football that year, radioactive bird flu pandemic strikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Salisu is the new Forren. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Theo starts Diallo on the bench. 2-1 to us Ings and Theo - COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 6 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Salisu is the new Forren. It’s all rather strange tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 36 minutes ago, Turkish said: Download the universal TV app for your iPad or phone, has 4 or 5 good streams for every single sporting event. Thank me later Not seeing anything other than an old Spanish app is that it ? Always nice to have a back up source ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 At least we have managed to start with one of the players signed in this supposedly fantastic transfer window. Good luck Theo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 minute ago, CB Fry said: At least we have managed to start with one of the players signed in this supposedly fantastic transfer window. Good luck Theo. I make it two of them starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Appy said: I make it two of them starting. Fair enough but KWP made his debut for us back in the days when you could sit next to someone on a bus, go to the cinema or lick a pub door handle if you wanted. So I don't think he quite counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Armstrong seems to make the team tick so I'm not confident for this one. Hopefully Walcott plays a blinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Walcott plays a blinder. Subbed by 60mins with an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Is it on Sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 Streams please ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 http://sportinglive.co/17th-chelsea-vs-southampton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 If we defend like we did at Spurs we're in trouble Going forward though we do look good. Not sure what to expect here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 17 October, 2020 Share Posted 17 October, 2020 On 16/10/2020 at 10:42, S-Clarke said: Salisu still 'weeks away' apparently. WTF is wrong with him? Had he never seen a football before he came here or something? What does he have to get used to that he didn't get in Spain? We signed him back at the end of July (we delayed the announcement for 3 weeks for some reason) and he still hasn't played a min of first team or b team football. No media unveiling, no pictures of his first day etc - very much in the Trousers camp of this entire WTF situation. Salisu not even on the bench...again. Why did we even sign him if he is not better than who we have or he is unable to play football? He’s played against Real Madrid and Barcelona (Messi, Bale) and gave a good account of himself according to press reports but he can’t manage to play against Brighton or Fulham (arguably, the worst defensive team in the Premier League) So infuriating. The Danso / Ralph effect. Why do we keep doing this? Makes absolutely no sense. We haven’t even properly announced the poor guy. Destroy his confidence before he has even set foot on a football pitch. There may be some valid reason but since the club don’t communicate, how the hell are we meant to know and it’s happened time and time again. This has to change. Any live links for the match today? Excited to see Theo starting. I wasn’t sure about his signing at first but I think he’s got something to prove and he seems so so motivated being back at Southampton. I’m very interested to see Diallo too. Wonder what he & Theo have that Salisu doesn’t?! COME ON YOU SAINTS!! Shame I can’t watch the match despite all the subscriptions I paid for despite no income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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