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16 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

 

34 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

No idea what that says .

 

24 minutes ago, jawillwill said:

Can you see if any other languages are available please MLG?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Saint J 77

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Does anyone think the owners will actually change much this summer? Club Infrastructure?  New signings? Stadium improvement ? New Coaching staff? it would be good to have a feel good story and some positive news coming out of the club as this season ends on some what of a downer.

I know there is a bigger picture to be explored but I’m not that excited about the ownership buying another club right now. I’d like to hear that they have some solid plans for Southampton Football Club going forward. While I’m sure there are plans a foot, from the outside It feels that isn’t much happening at the moment. It would be good if the club released a feel good story just to get the fans excited for the coming season. 
 

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6 minutes ago, The Cat said:

The translation of this comment underneath that article on twitter made me chuckle.

 

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Makes about as much sense as most of the posts on here, is that from GoztepeWeb forum? 

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The smaller picture needs to be addressed by sports republic before they entertain more time on their bigger picture.

Ralph is a busted flush, who cant organize the team and his FOUR assistants like Watson and Davis are simply 'jobs for the boys' with no clear benefit.

We are badly in need of new players across the board and that will need serious investment.

 

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4 hours ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

Not Sport Republic related but Jim Ratcliffe, who many have wished would one day bid for Saints, has submitted a late bid to buy Chelsea:
Chelsea subject of late £4bn bid from Britain's richest man Jim Ratcliffe | Football | Sport | Express.co.uk

He is not want Chelsea have chosen tho .. the yanks are favoured .

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On 26/04/2022 at 19:37, Saint J 77 said:

Does anyone think the owners will actually change much this summer? Club Infrastructure?  New signings? Stadium improvement ? New Coaching staff? it would be good to have a feel good story and some positive news coming out of the club as this season ends on some what of a downer.

I know there is a bigger picture to be explored but I’m not that excited about the ownership buying another club right now. I’d like to hear that they have some solid plans for Southampton Football Club going forward. While I’m sure there are plans a foot, from the outside It feels that isn’t much happening at the moment. It would be good if the club released a feel good story just to get the fans excited for the coming season. 
 

It’s been little different to Gao so far - not much communication whatsoever, no sense of momentum and no sense of fresh investment. No sense of how the debt will be addressed either. Missed opportunity to freshen up the squad in January and make their mark.

The manager isn’t helping them - selections like starting with Long which seem like they are being made for the sake of it, dreadful form, work ethic gone and seems to have lost the confidence of the players eg both Armstrongs, Broja, Salisu, Bednarek, Forster, Romeu. Not that the players are all that but the recent displays are reminding me of Pellegrino.

That sacking was left too late - the owners have lost their honeymoon but can clear some of the apathy with a change of manager and see if there is a bit of a response in the next couple of games. Ralph is not the man to oversee a rebuild, better off like we were with Ronald with a name who has contacts to bring in some smart deals in. Especially if the new owners are as skint as Gao was (which seems to be the case). Theo can take charge as caretaker for now. 

They need to sort out SFC first, find a new manager, investment in the squad and new coaching team, stabilise and then look at network clubs. It’s like trying to build a housing development with the showhome burning down otherwise. 

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23 hours ago, saint1977 said:

It’s been little different to Gao so far - not much communication whatsoever, no sense of momentum and no sense of fresh investment. No sense of how the debt will be addressed either. Missed opportunity to freshen up the squad in January and make their mark.

The manager isn’t helping them - selections like starting with Long which seem like they are being made for the sake of it, dreadful form, work ethic gone and seems to have lost the confidence of the players eg both Armstrongs, Broja, Salisu, Bednarek, Forster, Romeu. Not that the players are all that but the recent displays are reminding me of Pellegrino.

That sacking was left too late - the owners have lost their honeymoon but can clear some of the apathy with a change of manager and see if there is a bit of a response in the next couple of games. Ralph is not the man to oversee a rebuild, better off like we were with Ronald with a name who has contacts to bring in some smart deals in. Especially if the new owners are as skint as Gao was (which seems to be the case). Theo can take charge as caretaker for now. 

They need to sort out SFC first, find a new manager, investment in the squad and new coaching team, stabilise and then look at network clubs. It’s like trying to build a housing development with the showhome burning down otherwise. 

Can only hope that the new owners have a game plan and that it is implemented quickly at the end of the season, and display it, other than by a Semmens Five Live talking shop. Yes, he comes across well, but his last interview was a little too close to the Les Reed manta of "we're relaxed about it .." on the topic of everyone leaving. 

Giving Long a new contract won't allay anyone's fears.

On a positive though, Rasmus had a good reputation and  record at Brentford, although they seemed to work their scouting network quite well in recent years. Shame he can't bring in their Director of Recruitment, as to my recollection we are still overdue an appointment to replace Jimmy Krankie. There was the rumoured one who was under contract and couldn't join until the summer ... but then it went quiet never to be heard of again. What was that two or three seasons ago ?

Agree that expanding the group of clubs should be secondary to sorting out Saints, but then we're biased, and football might be secondary in the thinking to just expanding the dots on the map.

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15 minutes ago, Badger said:

There was the rumoured one who was under contract and couldn't join until the summer ... but then it went quiet never to be heard of again. What was that two or three seasons ago ?

I think that was a few seasons ago and I think that person was Matt Crocker, who was still under employment by the FA at the time. I think that's where these lines came from.

Martyn Glover is our head scout/head of recruitment I believe.

This summer will be an interesting one in relation to their intentions though. We can't stand still anymore and to compete in this level and improve you need to spend money. Even Brighton went out and spent £18m on their new LB without selling anyone, they were putting £30m bids in for Darwin Nunez too. We need to be playing at those sorts of levels, otherwise what's the point - we're just delaying the inevitable.

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8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think that was a few seasons ago and I think that person was Matt Crocker, who was still under employment by the FA at the time. I think that's where these lines came from.

Martyn Glover is our head scout/head of recruitment I believe.

This summer will be an interesting one in relation to their intentions though. We can't stand still anymore and to compete in this level and improve you need to spend money. Even Brighton went out and spent £18m on their new LB without selling anyone, they were putting £30m bids in for Darwin Nunez too. We need to be playing at those sorts of levels, otherwise what's the point - we're just delaying the inevitable.

Agreed.

But does Sport Republic have the £££? We'll know in a few months....

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19 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I think that was a few seasons ago and I think that person was Matt Crocker, who was still under employment by the FA at the time. I think that's where these lines came from.

Martyn Glover is our head scout/head of recruitment I believe.

This summer will be an interesting one in relation to their intentions though. We can't stand still anymore and to compete in this level and improve you need to spend money. Even Brighton went out and spent £18m on their new LB without selling anyone, they were putting £30m bids in for Darwin Nunez too. We need to be playing at those sorts of levels, otherwise what's the point - we're just delaying the inevitable.

I thought Crocker was more of a DoF, and that a permanent Director of Recruitment was also lined up. Glover was a temporary appointment when first mentioned.

As for your last comment, "what's the point" , after following Saints since the 60's , this is a question I'm increasingly asking myself. Today, 46 years on from our one and only major trophy, it's not so much a question of will I see another one in my lifetime as much as does the club really have any real intent or appetite to try and win something, or just tick over with a squad of disinterested players ?

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28 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

 

This summer will be an interesting one in relation to their intentions though. We can't stand still anymore and to compete in this level and improve you need to spend money. Even Brighton went out and spent £18m on their new LB without selling anyone, they were putting £30m bids in for Darwin Nunez too. We need to be playing at those sorts of levels, otherwise what's the point - we're just delaying the inevitable.

Branfoot was vilified for his comment "Southampton can't afford to live in same street as Leeds United" comment in his first season. L

Now I'm reading on here that we can't keep up with Brighton, Palace, and newly promoted Brentford. 

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14 minutes ago, Badger said:

Branfoot was vilified for his comment "Southampton can't afford to live in same street as Leeds United" comment in his first season.

Branfoot had a decent grasp of the planning permissions and costs of putting a football club, and ground, right next to another one.

Less of a grasp on some other things... 🙂

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35 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Agreed.

But does Sport Republic have the £££? We'll know in a few months....

I’m very much doubting that there will be any significant cash injection from them. The club were keen to state after the takeover that the management team would stay in place, Sport Republic we’re hands off, and we would operate in line with how Semmens laid it out, buy cheap and aim to sell high.

The only real benefit I can see is if there are any decent players that might come here from the other SR acquisitions, but it’s probably too early for that.

Seems like a case of out with the old, in with the old to me. Hope I’m wrong.

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9 hours ago, The Kraken said:

I’m very much doubting that there will be any significant cash injection from them. The club were keen to state after the takeover that the management team would stay in place, Sport Republic we’re hands off, and we would operate in line with how Semmens laid it out, buy cheap and aim to sell high.

The only real benefit I can see is if there are any decent players that might come here from the other SR acquisitions, but it’s probably too early for that.

Seems like a case of out with the old, in with the old to me. Hope I’m wrong.

Personally don’t see the benefits to us of a team portfolio for SR. Can’t imagine too many high quality players will be arriving to our shores from the Turkish second division. Would prefer them to establish us first rather than messing about trying to be some sort of mega investor in football.

Disappointed so far but not entirely unexpected as the owners don’t appear to have the sort of cash needed to make a splash in the Premier league.

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I think some of you are missing the point.  Sports Republic are all about smarter recruitment, potential modelling and performance analysis rather than blowing loads of cash of big name players.  4-5 Livramento-type acquisitions of 5-6 million will serve us better than 30 million spent on one player.  
 

I think it will be a very exciting summer.

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On 30/04/2022 at 23:33, imadirtyurchin said:

Theo as caretaker?! Really?!

Well not as stupid as it sounds, if he could make himself useful by mopping floors, unblocking toilets, opening up for evening functions etc I wouldn’t be so bitter about the money he gets paid, at least with the combined cheerleader / janitorial role he’d be showing willing.

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58 minutes ago, Puddings and Monkeys said:

I think some of you are missing the point.  Sports Republic are all about smarter recruitment, potential modelling and performance analysis rather than blowing loads of cash of big name players.  4-5 Livramento-type acquisitions of 5-6 million will serve us better than 30 million spent on one player.  
 

I think it will be a very exciting summer.

I'd like an exciting summer. But also an exciting following season where all of the recruitment pays off. More likely to happen if you know what you're getting than several smaller, riskier investments. Here's hoping. 

 

38 minutes ago, Puddings and Monkeys said:

I think we’re also likely to see a changes in the 1st team coaching setup with better qualified and more specialised people around the manager.

 

I think it will be an exciting summer.

Ralph's number two was on a coaching course. Ralph's an autocrat, so it's probably more of giving him better data/ ideas to pick from, than someone coming in and shaking up the relationships (although I think that would definitely help). Again, here's hoping. That's a lot of change.

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1 hour ago, Puddings and Monkeys said:

I think we’re also likely to see a changes in the 1st team coaching setup with better qualified and more specialised people around the manager.

 

I think it will be an exciting summer.

Changes to coaching set up based on anything or just wishful thinking?

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4 hours ago, Puddings and Monkeys said:

I think some of you are missing the point.  Sports Republic are all about smarter recruitment, potential modelling and performance analysis rather than blowing loads of cash of big name players.  4-5 Livramento-type acquisitions of 5-6 million will serve us better than 30 million spent on one player.  
 

I think it will be a very exciting summer.

First of all, I haven't got a clue how much money Sport Republic have, or how much they are willing to spend on Saints' recruitment, and I suspect that very few Saintsweb posters have either. However, lumping their intentions in with what Gao provided is a bit unwise, I feel.

One thing that can be said for the people involved with us since the takeover is that they have a successful business background, all of them in their field, and I expect that that may continue. Patience, people! I agree with P & M's final paragraph!

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Caught some of what Dragan said at tonight's awards ceremony... Something about him seeing Saints as a "dream factory" where young players can go enroute to fulfilling their ambitions... Or words to that effect.... Nothing revelationary there... Just underlining from the horse's mouth what our modus operandi is, and will be going forward... i.e. buying young potential and selling would be 'superstars'.... 

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45 minutes ago, trousers said:

Caught some of what Dragan said at tonight's awards ceremony... Something about him seeing Saints as a "dream factory" where young players can go enroute to fulfilling their ambitions... Or words to that effect.... Nothing revelationary there... Just underlining from the horse's mouth what our modus operandi is, and will be going forward... i.e. buying young potential and selling would be 'superstars'.... 

This is clearly our best route but what I'm hoping this new ownership/investment will facilitate is the levelling up of the "young players" we buy in the sense that they go from is to a top team straight away rather than perhaps the level between us and the real top teams. Higher quality to start with...but probably slightly less time with us!

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31 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

This is clearly our best route but what I'm hoping this new ownership/investment will facilitate is the levelling up of the "young players" we buy in the sense that they go from is to a top team straight away rather than perhaps the level between us and the real top teams. Higher quality to start with...but probably slightly less time with us!

Would like to see a sprinkling of experience bought in too. The type of 30 year old that’s been there done that, that we’ve ignored in the past because no re-sell value.

Think it would be invaluable for the young players. Would love to see a CB bought in like that, plus a GK. Someone to do a job like Dawson at West Ham or Evans at Leicester.

 

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5 hours ago, trousers said:

Caught some of what Dragan said at tonight's awards ceremony... Something about him seeing Saints as a "dream factory" where young players can go enroute to fulfilling their ambitions... Or words to that effect.... Nothing revelationary there... Just underlining from the horse's mouth what our modus operandi is, and will be going forward... i.e. buying young potential and selling would be 'superstars'.... 

Will be interesting to see if this turns up online soon… 

 

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9 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Would like to see a sprinkling of experience bought in too. The type of 30 year old that’s been there done that, that we’ve ignored in the past because no re-sell value.

Think it would be invaluable for the young players. Would love to see a CB bought in like that, plus a GK. Someone to do a job like Dawson at West Ham or Evans at Leicester.

 

Yep you need the experience in games - can’t learn everything on the training ground.

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38 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Shouldn’t all the back patting taken place at the season’s end?

If they want to give back patting for another season of averageness then yes they should wait.

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Looks the part, fitted shirt with rolled up cuffs, light stubble and slick back hair. So he ticks a few boxes. What's he done though?

Isn't that enough? He's sought after for interviews in football data analytics books too. 🙂

And Brentford have done well. They look to sell their best player each year. Tino's injury could either mean a no for a KWP move, or it's Valery, Perraud, Small, Vokins, Ramsay to pick from. JWP too.

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16 hours ago, trousers said:

Caught some of what Dragan said at tonight's awards ceremony... Something about him seeing Saints as a "dream factory" where young players can go enroute to fulfilling their ambitions... Or words to that effect.... Nothing revelationary there... Just underlining from the horse's mouth what our modus operandi is, and will be going forward... i.e. buying young potential and selling would be 'superstars'.... 

I’m not sure you can jump to the conclusion that he is proposing developing talent  to sell, per se. Hopefully we can keep hold of some developed talent? Of course we know what happens to very good players who play for teams lower down the food chain, I wouldn’t hold that against him as that is out of his hands.

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39 minutes ago, Nolan said:

 

 

Looking at the photo alone I though SR might be trying to but in to The Hairy Bikers.

One Google Translate later though it appears we've pulled out of our interest in this Turkish club.

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