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trousers

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33 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Yep, as I reported before the season started - hence our recruitment of young players and "good" Championship players.

Polite notice: You only need to post this another 17 times to qualify for a medal upgrade 🏅 

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ApprenticeBillionaire

ApprenticeBillionaire

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I reckon this has been the rudest of rude awakenings for Solak and it's hit him like a ton of bricks how much it takes to compete in the Premier League for a club of our size.

It's near on fucking impossible unless you're a mega billionaire

Solak is rich, but is he Premier League football club owner rich?

If I'm Solak and I've just had the season we've just had, I would be thinking what's the fucking point.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Given how interlinked the three clubs are, one can only assume that they are also up for sale?

And worth a lot less in Goztepe’s and Valenciennes case without the joint scouting and management systems?

Rasmus will be out of work and his brother - wonder if he’s fallen out with Solak and Dragan went ‘fuck it, this Rasmus’s pet empire. I want to sack the prick but can’t be arsed to do it solo’?

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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4 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

I reckon this has been the rudest of rude awakenings for Solak and it's hit him like a ton of bricks how much it takes to compete in the Premier League for a club of our size.

It's near on fucking impossible unless you're a mega billionaire

Solak is rich, but is he Premier League football club owner rich?

If I'm Solak and I've just had the season we've just had, I would be thinking what's the fucking point.

Get the club promoted again though first, better price, unless he’s got buyers sniffing who reckon they can both buy the club and invest to grow in the PL to promote whatever their mission is?

HarvSFC

HarvSFC

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It does take far less money to make Goztepe/Valenciennes decent sides in their country's. Look at Goztepe for example, we've sent them a load of players that we signed for only a few million and they're trying to get in Europe. Whereas, it costs £20m+ and over £100k on wages these days just to get a proven Premier League player.

It comes to a point where Solak must think he's spent hundreds of million, and what has he got to show for it? Almost the worst Premier League side of all time. If he was guided properly on spending on all that money we could have had a very decent side now. But he wasn't.

Kraft's already jumped ship, Ankersen's focussing on Goztepe, the SR team has fallen apart over the last year and there isn't really any smoke without fire, especially in this age of reporting where nothing really stays secret. We could do with an actual 'in the know' right now.

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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1 hour ago, West end Saints said:

I have no idea in the truth but 

1) if a journalist hears a rumour, looks into it, finds there is no basis to it, then no I would not expect them to report it.

2) if you are trying to sell something it is usual to seek interest in your sale, not deny it.

Unless there is a confidentiality/ exclusivity agreement?

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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6 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

It does take far less money to make Goztepe/Valenciennes decent sides in their country's. Look at Goztepe for example, we've sent them a load of players that we signed for only a few million and they're trying to get in Europe. Whereas, it costs £20m+ and over £100k on wages these days just to get a proven Premier League player.

It comes to a point where Solak must think he's spent hundreds of million, and what has he got to show for it? Almost the worst Premier League side of all time. If he was guided properly on spending on all that money we could have had a very decent side now. But he wasn't.

Kraft's already jumped ship, Ankersen's focussing on Goztepe, the SR team has fallen apart over the last year and there isn't really any smoke without fire, especially in this age of reporting where nothing really stays secret. We could do with an actual 'in the know' right now.

Agree with much of that although Goztepe would never had access to those players without SFC. And SFC was his answer to losing the PL rights in Serbia.

He has brought Spors in as well. My sense, not ITK, is there was a tyre kick or two, Solak’s said via TalkSPORT backed up by the Echo and BBC Solent when asked ‘that’s the price’. Nothing in the commercial world is not never for sale. 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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22 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

I reckon this has been the rudest of rude awakenings for Solak and it's hit him like a ton of bricks how much it takes to compete in the Premier League for a club of our size.

It's near on fucking impossible unless you're a mega billionaire

Solak is rich, but is he Premier League football club owner rich?

If I'm Solak and I've just had the season we've just had, I would be thinking what's the fucking point.

Would have been better with a proper transfer strategy.  He’s put more than enough money in, just let complete fuckwits spend it on shite.

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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39 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

I reckon this has been the rudest of rude awakenings for Solak and it's hit him like a ton of bricks how much it takes to compete in the Premier League for a club of our size.

It's near on fucking impossible unless you're a mega billionaire

Solak is rich, but is he Premier League football club owner rich?

If I'm Solak and I've just had the season we've just had, I would be thinking what's the fucking point.

Money is not the issue.

We have spent £260m+ in the last two Premier League seasons.

The issue is what that money was spent on!

Spending the money in a better way can be fixed... hopefully.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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37 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Money is not the issue.

We have spent £260m+ in the last two Premier League seasons.

The issue is what that money was spent on!

Spending the money in a better way can be fixed... hopefully.

If Spors gets the opportunity.

My sense is that most clubs are available if the owner’s price is matched, excluding the Bundesliga which has a different culture. But the optics are poor on the Jordan comments which haven’t come from thin air sans a manager, pending a total squad rebuild and the DoFs feet barely under the table. Not to mention a diabolical season. 

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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The timing feels awful and I'm not entirely sure it's imminent, but stuff like this doesn't come out unless there has been some chatter/bits made known in financial circles - Jordan is certainly in those circles.

It makes you wonder if Dragon has bene told exactly how much it's going to cost to fix what Ramus entirely destroyed, so much so that he knows he wouldn't be able to put up the $$$ required, thus putting us up for sale to someone who can.

Let's see what happens, but it's awful timing in respect of managerial appointments/transfers. It really does feel more and more like next season is going to be purely about treading water to me.

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Willo of Whiteley

Willo of Whiteley

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I think it’s worth everyone take a step back and remember what a tit Simon Jordan is.

Also worth bearing in mind how trigger happy Talkshite is in releasing “stories” and rumours. 

Pay attention to the likes of Alfie House (the Echo) and Adam Blackmore (BBC), they’re most likely to have the inside track. Not some gammon nutter on the radio filling a bit of air time that has a track record of winding up and antagonising.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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9 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I think it’s worth everyone take a step back and remember what a tit Simon Jordan is.

Also worth bearing in mind how trigger happy Talkshite is in releasing “stories” and rumours. 

Pay attention to the likes of Alfie House (the Echo) and Adam Blackmore (BBC), they’re most likely to have the inside track. Not some gammon nutter on the radio filling a bit of air time that has a track record of winding up and antagonising.

There is much truth in this, however it wasn’t long ago Dragan was on there being interviewed by Jim White who he is apparently friendly with. Would have taken White seconds to rebut Jordan with ‘news to me or not heard anything about that’.

He didn’t. Doesn’t mean the club is actively up for sale but might mean Dragan will want to oversee another promotion but recognise that to undo the sheer scale of Rasmus’s ineptitude plus compete at the PL level as we traditionally have will cost more than he’s prepared to gamble. So for anyone to kick the tyres more firmly, £125m opens the door to discuss further. 

ApprenticeBillionaire

ApprenticeBillionaire

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19 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I think it’s worth everyone take a step back and remember what a tit Simon Jordan is.

Also worth bearing in mind how trigger happy Talkshite is in releasing “stories” and rumours. 

Pay attention to the likes of Alfie House (the Echo) and Adam Blackmore (BBC), they’re most likely to have the inside track. Not some gammon nutter on the radio filling a bit of air time that has a track record of winding up and antagonising.

They haven't had the inside track on saints in YEARS.

Blackmore gets the odd exclusive here and there but he's never been "ahead" on anything in I don't know how long.

By the time either of them say anything it's hardly fucking news.

And also...Blackmore went in pretty hard on SportsRepublic with studs up a few weeks ago so I'm guessing his access is about zero these days. 

I don't think I've ever seen him dig out club hierarchy while he was still getting exclusives.

Dusic

Dusic

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Isn't pretty much every club up for sale for the right amount?

The time to be bothered is if/when Solak stops actively investing cash, which is pretty much the only good thing they have done. 

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HarvSFC

HarvSFC

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House and Blackmore provide additional information and the finer details, but yeah, they're both some way behind Romano and Ornstein when it comes to transfers and breaking news these days. Don't think either of the latter two cover takeovers that much, though. They get their information from agents.

Both House and Blackmore have said on Twitter that they've heard the same rumours before Jordan said it today. But, both seem to know as much as we all do today. You'd have thought that had the statement been completely false then the club may have communicated something this evening, but nothing.

Or, maybe they still all have Mondays off.

With all that said, Alfie House did say on Saturday that season ticket information would be coming out this week...

Turkish

Turkish

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5 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

Why is nobody talking about the real scandal here. Why did the Circle of Trust not warn us about this?

We did 

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trousers

trousers

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4 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Step forward Jordan Sibley to clarify everything for the fans.............................  💤

Shame he never ever posts on here... ;)

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Saint86

Saint86

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8 hours ago, trousers said:

Both BBC Solent and the Echo say they knew about this rumour several days ago. Call me old fashioned but wasn't there a time when journos would publish such speculation rather than keep it under their hat...? Assume they resort to the latter these days for fear of losing certain access privileges to the club's inner sanctum...?

I think the fact they kept it quiet means there is probably something in it. If it was false, the club wouldn't care overly about it being put out there and then make a big deal of rejecting it as part of a summer momentum drive. Its a bad time for a sale frankly - we have a massive rebuild on the cards and players (both existing and signings) will want confidence in where the club is headed.

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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5 hours ago, Saint86 said:

I think the fact they kept it quiet means there is probably something in it. If it was false, the club wouldn't care overly about it being put out there and then make a big deal of rejecting it as part of a summer momentum drive. Its a bad time for a sale frankly - we have a massive rebuild on the cards and players (both existing and signings) will want confidence in where the club is headed.

Not to mention a manager and new DoF too. Shits on the fans after such an appalling season. I hope for Dragan’s sakes a sale happens quickly or start the season well because if neither happens there won’t be a repeat of the mindless happy clapping at Spurs.

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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Just to recap...

Last summer, everyone at the club knew, without a shadow of doubt, that we would be relegated this season.  This prompted the summer transfer window to look exclusively for 'Championship' level players who we could 'develop' whilst playing in a league vastly better than their skillset - which is an incredible proposition in and of itself in the first place.

Having achieved the relegation that everyone at the club knew was a nailed on certainty, the owners are now looking to sell the club because we were relegated and they want their money back?

Let's hope the next owners are slightly less irrational than the current lot!

Another example of our legendary 'future planning'?

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Turkish

Turkish

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9 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

At the very least we need a fan on the board.

Whatever happened to the Saints voice? Can’t we get them to ask some hard hitting questions at the next meeting?

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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I don't think people are aware of how pissed off Solak is.

The main issue was the "strategy" of tanking the season, buying youngsters and future Championship players was not fully signed off by Solak (or certainly not the route he originally wanted), but PSR limits pushed him towards accepting it. However, he wanted to make a proper fist of it, hence the purchase of Ramsdale.

Once it was shown that we wouldn't make a proper fist of it, he wanted to take back control to protect his asset and try to recoup whatever we could of the season. It failed.

He is now cutting his losses with Saints. However, the club is being sold WITH it's current debts, hence the low price (and assets worth far more than £150m).

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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Dubai have strong links to the city as owners of the container port (DP World - they even buy Liebherr cranes😂).  They are also some sort of sponsor partner of the club (not sure exactly in what form).

Wonder if they’re interested?  They certainly don’t piss their money away, but £125million is pocket change to them.

Personally, I thought Dragan was on the right track, getting rid of the clueless duo of Kraft (out) and Rasmus (fuck off to Turkey) and appointing Spors.  

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Dubai have strong links to the city as owners of the container port (they even buy Liebherr cranes😂).  They are also some sort of sponsor partner of the club (not sure exactly in what form).

Wonder if they’re interested?  They certainly don’t piss their money away, but £125million is pocket change to them.

Personally, I thought Dragan was on the right track, getting rid of the clueless duo of Kraft (out) and Rasmus (fuck off to Turkey) and appointing Spors.  

Calling @dubaiphil to the thread!!!

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goodymatt

goodymatt

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I don't think people are aware of how pissed off Solak is.

The main issue was the "strategy" of tanking the season, buying youngsters and future Championship players was not fully signed off by Solak (or certainly not the route he originally wanted), but PSR limits pushed him towards accepting it. However, he wanted to make a proper fist of it, hence the purchase of Ramsdale.

Once it was shown that we wouldn't make a proper fist of it, he wanted to take back control to protect his asset and try to recoup whatever we could of the season. It failed.

He is now cutting his losses with Saints. However, the club is being sold WITH its current debts, hence the low price (and assets worth far more than £150m).

How do you know this?

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Draino76

Draino76

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I spoke with Solak after the First game where I told him to buy Ramsdale.

Damn I should have mentioned our forwards and midfielders are complete shit also. 

tdmickey3

tdmickey3

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14 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

How do you know this?

The fiasco keeps on giving.

We are a laughing stock 

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goodymatt

goodymatt

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7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

The same way I've been feeding information for the past 18 months.

So based on what you’ve heard, we are 100% up for sale and Solak wants out ASAP?

Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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4 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

So based on what you’ve heard, we are 100% up for sale and Solak wants out ASAP?

Yup. If you want to look through my previous posts over the last 18 months I would, going back to last January when I said Jason Wilcox was out, through the strategy from last August and the October Potter and Moyes predictions (although that one I was 100% sure of as I know someone that works for their agency).

People on here don't like to believe me because it's never particularly good news when I post about things, but unfortunately that's just being a Saints fan. 

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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FWIW i don’t think the clubs up for sale, not officially anyway

These rumours were doing the rounds from mid week last week, coming out of financial circles in London, its always hard to tell if there are legs to it, especially when official channels denied. That said, seems as though rumours have intensified a tad

It does feel odd timing, we’ve had a restructure, recently appointed Spors and the clubs been relegated meaning we’re in a weaker position for negotiating a price… also not sure how the multi club model is unpicked

Like all rumours its either bollocks, or an exaggeration of a conversation. Ive wondered how stretched SRs resolve might be, so potentially they’ve said a price they might be willing to depart for ?

Who knows

Either way, not sure a sale is necessarily a good thing… PSR resticts what we can spend… SR, as flawed as their strategy is clearly have our best interests at heart, sometimes we need to be careful what we wish for

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Football Special

Football Special

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19 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

The same way I've been feeding information for the past 18 months.

I log on to this forum far more than I should do, but don't once recall reading a post by you and thinking "this person knows what they're talking about " 

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Farmer Saint

Farmer Saint

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Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Well ! good news if true.

Sport Republic have been nothing more than fuckin useless so i has to get better...right?

No, not really. As with the sacking of RM, that has got worse. It doesn't necessarily mean better, just different.

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