Sport Republic

[lambtiss]

Just now, Turkish said:

And people wonder why you got bullied 

Is anyone wondering?

[Lee On Solent Saint]

5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

That is a claim, it is not evidence for the claim. You've so far failed to demonstrate the connection that what is happening at Göztepe or Valenciennes is the cause for the Saints Omnishambles. 

Sport Republic are the fucking connection. 

[Mboto Gorge]

18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Rather than calling on fictional characters, what are you disagreeing with?

I am not disagreeing with your stance, that’s your perogative. I just think you are far more patient than most. However you’re quite synonymous with the overall fanbase at st Mary’s, eg a placid, lapping up failure and gullibly coming back for more, kind 

[Matthew Le God]

14 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

The evidence that we have is that these clowns have screwed up almost every appointment or decision  they have made. The rational position to take, therefore, is to assume that they will continue with this ineptitude.

Not rational because different people are now making the decisions. 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I am not disagreeing with your stance, that’s your perogative. I just think you are far more patient than most. However you’re quite synonymous with the overall fanbase at st Mary’s, eg a placid, lapping up failure and gullibly coming back for more, kind 

No I'm not. This season is a shit show. I'm not happy with it. But there is nothing the fanbase can do to change it. Plus given they have themselves admitted it is a fuck up (hard for them not to) and have made changes at the top, what more do you want? Isn't it changes at the top we want... and that has receny happened. So wait and see what those changes in decision makers makes.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

And people wonder why you got bullied 

I don't believe he was.

Unlike this thread, where MLG will continue to believe in a new SR dawn every time they change something in their vending machines, a number of us were only going to get a bit more honest about repeat behaviour. Which happened, when faced with a large number of pedantic posts, from someone who runs away when shown repeatedly to be wrong in those posts.

I popped him back on ignore only to see another outcome where, since he's unable to admit to anything/discuss like a grown up, threads just become consumed by the nonsense above.

I've seen a couple of MLG tags in recent days too, from posters aware that MLG is only a point of pedantry away from derailing a discussion. That was a sign before his Great Sulk not long ago. A point where, after a couple of weeks for people to realise he was away, I thought the board improved markedly.

[Roger]

Phil parsons is a big problem. The bloke is useless. The staff think he’s an absolute joke.

[Football Special]

Just now, Roger said:

Phil parsons is a big problem. The bloke is useless. The staff think he’s an absolute joke.

I have no idea if that's true or not, but he's not making decisions on manager / player recruitment is he? 

[Matthew Le God]

22 minutes ago, Turkish said:

And people wonder why you got bullied 

Saints Web forum claims in its blurb..

"Abusive behaviour is not welcomed"

Do you think you may have violated that over the years without punishment? 

You are a middle aged man that throws around petty personal insults. Sure my posting style winds some people up the wrong way, but I don't get personal like you do.

I have no issue with people disagreeing with me, this is a forum... for discussions. I know some of my opinions will be like Marmite on here. That is where the discussions come in, not abuse.

Do you really think your behaviour on this forum is acceptable and meets the forum rules? 

Edited 22 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

Indeed. He is 100% top of my list of staff I want sacked.

How do you know the selection committee listened to his recommendations ?

With players like Wood coming in it seems a former manager was heavily involved in the final choices 

[The Kraken]

48 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Sure my posting style winds some people up the wrong way

It doesn’t, does it? I can’t say I’ve ever noticed.

Don’t ever change MLG. Your obstinance is part of the forum furniture.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Faith is the excuse people give when they don't have evidence. If you had evidence you would not need faith. I've said numerous times on here they fucked up recruitment. They've made an attempt to resolve it. I will wait and see if it works, I have not said or claimed it definitely will. That is the rational position to take.

They've attempted to fix the fucked up recruitment by keeping the head of recruitment in place, and you want to wait and see what happens.

[Matthew Le God]

17 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

They've attempted to fix the fucked up recruitment by keeping the head of recruitment in place, and you want to wait and see what happens.

Mowbray doesn't have final say on signings. Plus we also do not know yet if he is staying or not. Johannes Spors may restructure the recruitment department. He has only been in the job for 1 week and will need to assess the mess he is tasked with turning around.

Edited 20 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[SaintNewForest]

I genuinely admire those who still find positivity and faith in these utter clowns & charlatans. Hats off to anyone who thinks they'll come good. 

These clowns are ruining our club, and making us an utter embrassment and a laughing stock. 

Quicker they get run out of town the better.

[Mboto Gorge]

13 minutes ago, SaintNewForest said:

I genuinely admire those who still find positivity and faith in these utter clowns & charlatans. Hats off to anyone who thinks they'll come good. 

These clowns are ruining our club, and making us an utter embrassment and a laughing stock. 

Quicker they get run out of town the better.

Yep, nailed it. There’s losing, and there’s being the biggest joke and laughing stock the premier league has ever seen. To think These idiots took over a relatively established premier league club too, almost a decade back in the top flight when they took over. And they managed to make us this uncompetitive in record time. We aren’t just crap and going down, we are a complete embarrassment to levels never witnessed before. The club are lucky the stadium is more than half full on Match days now. The performances deserve crowds of 8-10k

Edited 19 hours ago by Mboto Gorge

[FarehamSaintJames]

Eighteen months ago after relegation it felt like there was some kind of backbone around the club.

Russell Martin in as manager. Jason Wilcox working closely as director of football. Darren Mowbray coming in as head of recruitment. The list goes on. 
But there was a spine to the club. A way the club wanted to move forward and develop.

A catalogue of errors along the way.

Jason Wilcox jumping ship was the first domino to fall. This clearly ruffled some feathers behind the scenes as the season came to a close.
Not replacing him was the biggest mistake.
Russell Martin pretty much having reign (supposedly) on the transfer window, probably alongside Darren Mowbray, based on success of previous seasons signings and the bargain bin along the way. No real strategy.
Sacking Russell Martin - change needed to be made at that point.
Bringing in a new manager in Ivan Juric - a man with no experience of the Premier League, not using players to their strengths, bizarre formations and tactics.
Dragan Solak says in a Talksport interview Juric is here for next season too.
No January transfer strategy, aside from cut losses and bin off players that are surplus to requirements.
Then, a technical director is brought on board. Someone who will no doubt want a say in manager and player strategy, almost certainly I would be surprised if he and Juric were on the same page for next season.
 

 

[Dragon_man]

1 hour ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yep, nailed it. There’s losing, and there’s being the biggest joke and laughing stock the premier league has ever seen. To think These idiots took over a relatively established premier league club too, almost a decade back in the top flight when they took over. And they managed to make us this uncompetitive in record time. We aren’t just crap and going down, we are a complete embarrassment to levels never witnessed before. The club are lucky the stadium is more than half full on Match days now. The performances deserve crowds of 8-10k

I have a season ticket and am a 'lifer', so 'have' to go, but I'm astonished that each home game is a sell out.

SR must be laughing their cocks off ... 'no matter how shit we are, they just keep coming and paying'.  

Probably get 30k per home game next season too. Where's the problem they say?

[HarvSFC]

Four managerial appointments under Sport Republic:

Nathan Jones - 1 Premier League victory from 8. (7 losses)

Ruben Selles - 2 Premier League victories from 16. (10 losses)

Russell Martin - 1 Premier League victory from 16. (13 losses)

Ivan Juric - 1 Premier League victory from 9. (8 losses)

At least they're consistent.

 

[Weston Super Saint]

6 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Four managerial appointments under Sport Republic:

Nathan Jones - 1 Premier League victory from 8. (7 losses)

Ruben Selles - 2 Premier League victories from 16. (10 losses)

Russell Martin - 1 Premier League victory from 16. (13 losses)

Ivan Juric - 1 Premier League victory from 9. (8 losses)

At least they're consistent.

 

Selles is going to end up being the stand out from that crowd.  Ironically, he's the only one that we didn't go out and search for.

[sfc4prem]

6 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Four managerial appointments under Sport Republic:

Nathan Jones - 1 Premier League victory from 8. (7 losses)

Ruben Selles - 2 Premier League victories from 16. (10 losses)

Russell Martin - 1 Premier League victory from 16. (13 losses)

Ivan Juric - 1 Premier League victory from 9. (8 losses)

At least they're consistent.

 

Add to that their player recruitment and you end up with a steaming pile of shit.

[Gloucester Saint]

10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Mowbray doesn't have final say on signings. Plus we also do not know yet if he is staying or not. Johannes Spors may restructure the recruitment department. He has only been in the job for 1 week and will need to assess the mess he is tasked with turning around.

I’ve tackled some challenges in my career with mess left by others but what faces Spores dwarfs that and then x1 million. I hope he’s got some very heavy financial backing from Dragan because there’s players to retire through injury who haven’t played any serious football for 3 years, multiple loan outs (Edozie, Edwards, Charles) who are probably not sweet with SFC, raising funds through selling remaining talent (Fernandes, Dibling, Ramsdale), and a boat load of Martin groupies who didn’t put in the work for Russell or Juric in the top flight seemingly causing trouble.

Then there is recruitment at scale to build a spine from keeper to centre forward of pace and physical power lacking throughout the squad. 

All this at a club with losing in its 🧬 at levels rarely ever seen in the sport. Oh, and finding a new manager who can work hand in glove with him to roll this out who will command respect and being much-needed discipline, realism and industry-knowledge who is willing to put their reputation on the line.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Farmer Saint]

7 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

Four managerial appointments under Sport Republic:

Nathan Jones - 1 Premier League victory from 8. (7 losses)

Ruben Selles - 2 Premier League victories from 16. (10 losses)

Russell Martin - 1 Premier League victory from 16. (13 losses)

Ivan Juric - 1 Premier League victory from 9. (8 losses)

At least they're consistent.

 

I'm surprised we've seen 5 wins considering the players over that span.

And I got criticised for saying I didn't really want promotion last season as we weren't ready 🤣🤣🤣

Edited 9 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Toussaint]

15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm surprised we've seen 5 wins considering the players over that span.

And I got criticised for saying I didn't really want promotion last season as we weren't ready 🤣🤣🤣

If being “ready” is the criteria I’m not sure anyone will ever be ready again. So huge is the gulf between the premier league and championship, as we have witnessed these last two seasons. 
 

We may always have struggled, but not like this, we could have at least come out with some self respect had we made a better job of recruitment and our managerial appointments. 
 

 

[Toussaint]

We have the very worst owners it’s possible to have, and I include Dragan in that, he is the head of the snake and should have dealt with the incompetence around him much sooner. The buck stops with him.

 

It still hasn’t been dealt with now, a bit of a cabinet reshuffle, a new dof who doesn’t know English football who  no one had ever heard of, yet another left field managerial appointment.

The buffoonery seemingly knows no limits.

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

We have the very worst owners it’s possible to have, and I include Dragan in that, he is the head of the snake and should have dealt with the incompetence around him much sooner. The buck stops with him.

 

It still hasn’t been dealt with now, a bit of a cabinet reshuffle, a new dof who doesn’t know English football who  no one had ever heard of, yet another left field managerial appointment.

The buffoonery seemingly knows no limits.

I agree with all of this but it’s got to start turning around somewhere. Whether that’s Spores and finally making an obvious sensible managerial appointment (Cooper or someone similar) not a left field Jones/Martin/Juric gamble, or Dragan selling up, who knows.

Let’s hope for the former and that some football common sense comes to the fore. Main thing next season is to avoid a relegation battle and build a decent spine to stem the blood losses. Then work from there.

[aintforever]

45 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

We have the very worst owners it’s possible to have, and I include Dragan in that, he is the head of the snake and should have dealt with the incompetence around him much sooner. The buck stops with him.

 

It still hasn’t been dealt with now, a bit of a cabinet reshuffle, a new dof who doesn’t know English football who  no one had ever heard of, yet another left field managerial appointment.

The buffoonery seemingly knows no limits.

To be fair to Dragan, at least he has shown he is willing to invest. If Spores appoints a decent manager and they get recruitment right in the summer we should be in pretty good shape to challenge next season. Big if though.

[ant]

SR have had an incredibly easy ride from the fans. Whether it's productive or 'right', surely it's only a matter of time before ire is directed towards them on match days?

[Dr. Kucho]

43 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I agree with all of this but it’s got to start turning around somewhere. Whether that’s Spores and finally making an obvious sensible managerial appointment (Cooper or someone similar) not a left field Jones/Martin/Juric gamble, or Dragan selling up, who knows.

Let’s hope for the former and that some football common sense comes to the fore. Main thing next season is to avoid a relegation battle and build a decent spine to stem the blood losses. Then work from there.

When Spors turned up at Vitesse he appointed Thomas Letch, a German unknown to the Eredivisie.
Don’t know what he did at Genoa, but can see him go for Rohl for many reasons. Knows the championship, knows the club, they have worked together and he’s doing a decent job at Wednesday. 

Here he is seen as doing a good job at Vitesse, under the dodgy ownership they had. They renewed his contract but he left once Genoa came knocking.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

When Spors turned up at Vitesse he appointed Thomas Letch, a German unknown to the Eredivisie.
Don’t know what he did at Genoa, but can see him go for Rohl for many reasons. Knows the championship, knows the club, they have worked together and he’s doing a decent job at Wednesday. 

Here he is seen as doing a good job at Vitesse, under the dodgy ownership they had. They renewed his contract but he left once Genoa came knocking.

If his appointment works and he gives him a decent spine of athletic players and results stabilise, he’ll get some credit and time.

How quickly they can move forward depends on how much backing Dragan gives them both. 

[LGTL]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm surprised we've seen 5 wins considering the players over that span.

And I got criticised for saying I didn't really want promotion last season as we weren't ready 🤣🤣🤣

There’s no better time to build a PL team than when you’re actually in the PL. Unfortunately, Martin was too loyal to his pals and SR made some atrocious signings, and we ended up with the steaming pile of shit that started the season. 

When Forest were promoted they ripped up the entire promotion squad and signed what, 30 players? People thought they were barking but they survived their first year, and the rest is history. It’s all about surviving the first year, as that’s when it’s likely 3 worse teams than you come into the league. We didn’t even fucking try. 

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

If being “ready” is the criteria I’m not sure anyone will ever be ready again. So huge is the gulf between the premier league and championship, as we have witnessed these last two seasons. 
 

We may always have struggled, but not like this, we could have at least come out with some self respect had we made a better job of recruitment and our managerial appointments. 
 

 

But we also knew we couldn't spend big due to PSR...

[miserableoldgit]

19 minutes ago, LGTL said:

There’s no better time to build a PL team than when you’re actually in the PL. Unfortunately, Martin was too loyal to his pals and SR made some atrocious signings, and we ended up with the steaming pile of shit that started the season. 

When Forest were promoted they ripped up the entire promotion squad and signed what, 30 players? People thought they were barking but they survived their first year, and the rest is history. It’s all about surviving the first year, as that’s when it’s likely 3 worse teams than you come into the league. We didn’t even fucking try. 

The biggest mystery to me is why they persisted with RM like they did. He should have had 10 games to see if he could cut it, but you almost get the impression that if the Spurs game had been a bit closer....i.e. a narrow defeat, then he would still be here.

[Gloucester Saint]

A key role Spores has in the miracle turnaround he’s being asked to produce is to speak truth at the SR boardroom level about the likes of Bazanu, McCarthys extension, the very long-term injured and ensure Dragan writes off some of the dreadful decision on ‘assets’ even if he winces writing the cheques.

No face saving for the likes of Rasmus and Kraft, the full Pandora’s Box has to come into the open warts and all for any trust from the supporters to ever be possible again, 

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

A key role Spores has in the miracle turnaround he’s being asked to produce is to speak truth at the SR boardroom level about the likes of Bazanu, McCarthys extension, the very long-term injured and ensure Dragan writes off some of the dreadful decision on ‘assets’ even if he winces writing the cheques.

No face saving for the likes of Rasmus and Kraft, the full Pandora’s Box has to come into the open warts and all for any trust from the supporters to ever be possible again, 

Absolutley, I agree. There needs to be an element of ruthlessness in the summer, I don't give a shit if so and so is good in the changing room, if they can't add to us on the pitch then they need to be dumped.

Whilst the loyalty we have shown to the likes of Bazunu, Larios, Stewart etc can be seen as admirable, there comes a point where it starts to look like pure stupidity. If we are really going to change and he's going to call the shots then I'd expect to see some common-sense decisions in the summer, and none of the club mouth pieces coming out saying how good Bazunu is etc. Most people in football know he isn't, that's why his only taker in January was Standard Liege (and that's only because his former City coach works there).

[Gloucester Saint]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Absolutley, I agree. There needs to be an element of ruthlessness in the summer, I don't give a shit if so and so is good in the changing room, if they can't add to us on the pitch then they need to be dumped.

Whilst the loyalty we have shown to the likes of Bazunu, Larios, Stewart etc can be seen as admirable, there comes a point where it starts to look like pure stupidity. If we are really going to change and he's going to call the shots then I'd expect to see some common-sense decisions in the summer, and none of the club mouth pieces coming out saying how good Bazunu is etc. Most people in football know he isn't, that's why his only taker in January was Standard Liege (and that's only because his former City coach works there).

Agreed, I’d like to see Spores tackling SR’s and Saint’s leadership head on about many of these issues, and he can do it in public because their stock is so low and his is quite decent. Get Dragan and his new SR board members onside and win the politics inside SR early so Rasmus and Kraft are irrelevant. ‘Gavin needs a fresh start elsewhere and we haven’t managed a young goalkeeper well’. - honesty goes a long way.

Edited 7 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

But we also knew we couldn't spend big due to PSR...

We could have spent better though?

[West end Saints]

It is still very achievable to have a decent season next season IF we improve on recruitment ( manager and players).

There are very few I would not want to go (I appreciate we cannot force players to leave or sell a whole squad).

But of our current first team I would only miss Fernandes. Literally one player!

Others could do a job in the championship but not that fussed.

Dibling clearly has potential and although it would good to see him grow into a solid consistent performer, the figures quoted would finance a decent championship team.

If Dibling, THB, Ramsdale, Downes, ABK, Paul O, Aribo, Sulemana all went, we would have a big budget to build a strong team.

New additions, plus Sugawara, Wood, Edwards, Wellington (Manning) 

Charles, Fernandes, Edozie, Armstrong, Archer

I don't know about likes of Matsuki, Juan, Fraser, Bree, Joachim Kayi Sandra

Add a bit of athletism and experience and a decent manager (Rohl?) we would easily win more than we lose

 

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, Toussaint said:

We could have spent better though?

Definitely, yes, may have made us competitive with Ipswich and Leicester if we had. To stay up though we are nowhere near. 6 to 8 players, probably £25-30m each and we may have been close. But if we only had 6 that would still leave us very short in some areas.

Edited 3 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Badger]

4 hours ago, Dr. Kucho said:

When Spors turned up at Vitesse he appointed Thomas Letch, a German unknown to the Eredivisie.
Don’t know what he did at Genoa, but can see him go for Rohl for many reasons. Knows the championship, knows the club, they have worked together and he’s doing a decent job at Wednesday. 

Here he is seen as doing a good job at Vitesse, under the dodgy ownership they had. They renewed his contract but he left once Genoa came knocking.

Perhaps Letch ( good name for headlines ) might be another option under consideration (a Plan B).

Don’t know anything of him, but have to say the shaved bald wannabe Pep-like head is a serious ‘no go’ for me, second only to bearded hipster fucker in the avoid list. 

 

Looks a bit of a Pep/Vialli/ Abel Magwich stereotype hybrid to me. But at 6’3” he might sort some of the delicate little flowers in our squad out. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Badger

[Toussaint]

41 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Definitely, yes, may have made us competitive with Ipswich and Leicester if we had. To stay up though we are nowhere near. 6 to 8 players, probably £25-30m each and we may have been close. But if we only had 6 that would still leave us very short in some areas.

I wasn’t expecting us to stay up, I just wanted to give it a good crack, as Luton did last season. Who knows, we could have sucked more teams into the fight?

[Matthew Le God]

3 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I wasn’t expecting us to stay up, I just wanted to give it a good crack, as Luton did last season. Who knows, we could have sucked more teams into the fight?

Who and how? Wolves are already in the fight and are too good for the promoted teams. Every other team is significantly better. 

[Toussaint]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Who and how? Wolves are already in the fight and are too good for the promoted teams. Every other team is significantly better. 

We could have beaten Wolves and Palace for example, both were on terrible runs at the time we rolled over for them. Man united were there for the taking, both times. Momentum is a fantastic thing, the gestalt, we are now totally broken, who knows what may have happened if we’d spent our money more wisely? Who knows what other teams may have started wilting under pressure? 

[Dr. Kucho]

29 minutes ago, Badger said:

Perhaps Letch ( good name for headlines ) might be another option under consideration (a Plan B).

Don’t know anything of him, but have to say the shaved bald wannabe Pep-like head is a serious ‘no go’ for me, second only to bearded hipster fucker in the avoid list. 

 

Looks a bit of a Pep/Vialli/ Abel Magwich stereotype hybrid to me. But at 6’3” he might sort some of the delicate little flowers in our squad out. 

Statistically he did a very good job at Vitesse. Finished fourth in the league and reached the Dutch FA cup final. I don’t know much about the football he had them play and what the fans thought of him (I leave nearer to their arch rivals N.E.C Nijmegen and very few Vitesse fans leave around here). 

Vitesse did have this dodgy Russian owner called Valery Oyf. There was much speculation that he didn’t have any money himself and that it was all a coverup. The person bankrolling the club was Roman Abramovich and if I remember rightly Chelsea and Vitesse were sold around the same time. Vitesse always had loads of Chelsea loans, so don’t know how much ‘freedom’ Spors had in signing players. 

Vitesse was eventually sold to this American guy, who made a huge mess of the club. They had a huge amount of points deducted last season, were relegated and had more points deducted again this season. Clubs a mess and the chance is they have to vacate their stadium in a few years (one of the ugliest stadiums around).

 

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

Statistically he did a very good job at Vitesse. Finished fourth in the league and reached the Dutch FA cup final. I don’t know much about the football he had them play and what the fans thought of him (I leave nearer to their arch rivals N.E.C Nijmegen and very few Vitesse fans leave around here). 

Vitesse did have this dodgy Russian owner called Valery Oyf. There was much speculation that he didn’t have any money himself and that it was all a coverup. The person bankrolling the club was Roman Abramovich and if I remember rightly Chelsea and Vitesse were sold around the same time. Vitesse always had loads of Chelsea loans, so don’t know how much ‘freedom’ Spors had in signing players. 

Vitesse was eventually sold to this American guy, who made a huge mess of the club. They had a huge amount of points deducted last season, were relegated and had more points deducted again this season. Clubs a mess and the chance is they have to vacate their stadium in a few years (one of the ugliest stadiums around).

 

Thanks for that. 

From what I’ve read from you, and another article recently Spors has certainly rubbed shoulders with some questionable owners. What you outline at Vitesse, and also 777 Group don’t seem to have covered themselves in glory at Genoa.

Sports Republic might seem like pussycats in comparison. 

[lambtiss]

6 hours ago, LGTL said:

There’s no better time to build a PL team than when you’re actually in the PL. Unfortunately, Martin was too loyal to his pals and SR made some atrocious signings, and we ended up with the steaming pile of shit that started the season. 

When Forest were promoted they ripped up the entire promotion squad and signed what, 30 players? People thought they were barking but they survived their first year, and the rest is history. It’s all about surviving the first year, as that’s when it’s likely 3 worse teams than you come into the league. We didn’t even fucking try. 

I totally agree up to the last point. I think we did try but were hopelessly incompetent with our transfer dealings (again), totally underestimated what it takes to stay in the PL (an act of stupefying negligence when the owners already had 1 relegation behind them and we had just scraped promotion)and then sticking with RM for far too long, giving any new manager almost no chance of saving us.

[Football Special]

18 hours ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yep, nailed it. There’s losing, and there’s being the biggest joke and laughing stock the premier league has ever seen. To think These idiots took over a relatively established premier league club too, almost a decade back in the top flight when they took over. And they managed to make us this uncompetitive in record time. We aren’t just crap and going down, we are a complete embarrassment to levels never witnessed before. The club are lucky the stadium is more than half full on Match days now. The performances deserve crowds of 8-10k

Agree with both of you, SR have had their chance and they've blown it, time for them to pass the baton. 

Maybe that's why Rishi Sunak was there yesterday, brokering a deal with his father in law 

[Football Special]

16 hours ago, Dragon_man said:

I have a season ticket and am a 'lifer', so 'have' to go, but I'm astonished that each home game is a sell out.

SR must be laughing their cocks off ... 'no matter how shit we are, they just keep coming and paying'.  

Probably get 30k per home game next season too. Where's the problem they say?

Not only that....but we're all spending more money per visit , hour before ko and fans zones / Dell pub are packed with people queueing up to pay £6.80 per pint , queue to get in club shop as well