Saint_clark Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 20 minutes ago, Bakovnetski said: Looks like Dragan transferred 995126 shares earlier this year to Viktorija Boklag. Whoever she is. I'm on a work computer so a little reluctant to google her. 2
Bakovnetski Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 (edited) https://united.group/leadership/victoriya-boklag/ CEO of Dragan's media empire. Smart cookie by the sounds of it. Ukrainian educated Stateside. Hopefully sort out Rasmus and Henrik. #directorsboxwatching Edited 22 December, 2024 by Bakovnetski 2
Saint_clark Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 6 minutes ago, Bakovnetski said: https://united.group/leadership/victoriya-boklag/ Seems successful, guess it's positive if people are looking to buy into the group. Anyone know if Kat still owns part of the club or not?
Badger Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Seems successful, guess it's positive if people are looking to buy into the group. Anyone know if Kat still owns part of the club or not? Last thing I recall was that her shareholding had been reduced to 10%. Not sure we can read anything into the possibility of people looking to buy into the club or have I missed something? Edited 22 December, 2024 by Badger
Badger Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 The other name to appear which I haven’t seen before Dirk Gerkin. Might be a stage name though. 3
Bakovnetski Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Badger said: Last thing I recall was that her shareholding had been reduced to 10%. Not sure we can read anything into the possibility of people looking to buy into the club or have I missed something? Maybe I misread the statement and she halved her shareholding?
Bakovnetski Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Badger said: The other name to appear which I haven’t seen before Dirk Gerkin. Might be a stage name though. You mean like Dirk Diggler? 😆
trousers Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bakovnetski said: Looks like Dragan transferred 995126 shares earlier this year to Viktorija Boklag. Whoever she is. CEO of Dragan's main business.... Edit: apologies, just spotted you'd already answered your own question @Bakovnetski 👍 Edited 22 December, 2024 by trousers
Saint_clark Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, Badger said: Last thing I recall was that her shareholding had been reduced to 10%. Not sure we can read anything into the possibility of people looking to buy into the club or have I missed something? I don't think so, appears to be someone closely linked with Dragan and he's offered her the opportunity to get involved nothing more.
Suhari Posted 22 December, 2024 Posted 22 December, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, trousers said: CEO of Dragan's main business.... Looks like she'd enjoy a dirk gerkin. Edited 22 December, 2024 by Suhari 1
benjii Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 Could be what that filmed meeting was about. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 10 hours ago, Saint_clark said: I don't think so, appears to be someone closely linked with Dragan and he's offered her the opportunity to get involved nothing more. And if that gives her a vote on the SR board, it helps outvote Rasmus and Kraft with Dragan with the casting vote if needed. 2
Suhari Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 7 hours ago, benjii said: Could be what that filmed meeting was about. Do Only Fans subscriptions count to PSR? 2
AlexLaw76 Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 As we are in the midst of the festive period, sat rock bottom on single-digit points, set to be one of if not the worst premier league side ever... Who else believes SR are leading un into, or even through, our greatest era in our history? 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted 29 December, 2024 Posted 29 December, 2024 CONFIRMED: We are staying up! (We all know how reliable he is) 2
saintant Posted 29 December, 2024 Posted 29 December, 2024 Martin Semmens has much to answer for after selling our club to this bunch of chancers. Seems he failed to do due diligence on them. SR has completely ruined our football club and made the life of a Saints fan an absolute misery. Through their incompetence they have wasted millions and the more they spend the worse we become. What do we need to do to get rid of them. 4
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 29 December, 2024 Posted 29 December, 2024 51 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: CONFIRMED: We are staying up! (We all know how reliable he is) SR are not doing a good job but we would have gone down under Gao eventually too. Ralph and Ings saved that regime almost by themselves 1
Roo1976 Posted 29 December, 2024 Posted 29 December, 2024 On 22/12/2024 at 23:17, trousers said: met his brother............Pickled Gerkens the other day.
trousers Posted 29 December, 2024 Posted 29 December, 2024 1 hour ago, saintant said: Martin Semmens has much to answer for after selling our club to this bunch of chancers They were the "perfect solution" though, surely....? 1
saintant Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 9 hours ago, trousers said: They were the "perfect solution" though, surely....? Yeah and I'm sure a certain person did very nicely when they bought our club. 2
AlexLaw76 Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 They are pathetic owners, and amazed how little attention they get at home games. 3
Gloucester Saint Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: They are pathetic owners, and amazed how little attention they get at home games. As we saw with Russell Martin, many of our fans are not the sharpest tools in the shed. That said, when we did protest against Jones with that brilliant P45 held up, the supporters were disgracefully apparently forcibly ejected. So focus protests at home outside the ground, funeral marches to SMS with some anti-SR chanting and then really go for their throat away from home in numbers with banners.
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 12 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: CONFIRMED: We are staying up! (We all know how reliable he is) If its not broken consider breaking it.
Ted Bates Statue Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 12 hours ago, saintant said: Martin Semmens has much to answer for after selling our club to this bunch of chancers. Seems he failed to do due diligence on them. SR has completely ruined our football club and made the life of a Saints fan an absolute misery. Through their incompetence they have wasted millions and the more they spend the worse we become. What do we need to do to get rid of them. I would imagine his due diligence would have been more along the lines of 'can you afford the club and keep running it to a greater extent than the current absentee owner' rather than arguing the toss over whether the likes of Bazunu, Mara and Orsic can cut it in the premier league. For all the faults of Sport Republic, we appear to be better funded now than at any point in our history. The problem is how they choose to spend it. 4
saintant Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said: I would imagine his due diligence would have been more along the lines of 'can you afford the club and keep running it to a greater extent than the current absentee owner' rather than arguing the toss over whether the likes of Bazunu, Mara and Orsic can cut it in the premier league. For all the faults of Sport Republic, we appear to be better funded now than at any point in our history. The problem is how they choose to spend it. There is little point being better funded if those spending the money have no clue what they are doing. Semmens due diligence should have included a deep dive into the competence of those running SR. I'm pretty sure he'd have found little to suggest they had the experience to run a Premier League football club or why are we in such a complete and utter shambles now? 1
Wade Garrett Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 We need to go back to the transfer policy under Liebherr. When we were League One, we bought Championship players. When we were Championship we bought players good enough for the Premier. When we were Premier League we bought Premier League players. There was never any sentiment to players that got us promoted. SR are making a dogs breakfast out of it all. They need to change course.
Turkish Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: We need to go back to the transfer policy under Liebherr. When we were League One, we bought Championship players. When we were Championship we bought players good enough for the Premier. When we were Premier League we bought Premier League players. There was never any sentiment to players that got us promoted. SR are making a dogs breakfast out of it all. They need to change course. hmm, not sure i agree with you about signing players in the championship good enough for the premier league. In the championship we signed Jack Cork, Steve De Ridder, Jos Hooliveld, Billy Sharp, Danny Fox, Tanadari Lee, with the exception of Jack Cork the others were all very much top/good championship players but miles off it in the premier league. The first year in L1 we made some brilliant signings, Lambert, Fonte, Hammond, Jaidi, Puncheon, (although a bit of prick for a while was clearly capable of playing higher up) to add to the quality already here, Lallana, Schniderlin, Ox, so had a really, really good base to go the the championship. Even our signings when we went up weren't that great, Clyne, Davis were good, Rodriguez has a slow start but did well after about 6 months, then there were Mayuka, Yoshida, Ramirez & Gazzaniga. We had the goalkeeping debacle where we started the season with Davis, quickly became apparent he wasnt good enough so slung in Gazzaniga with the same result and ended up scouring the free transfer market to find Boruc who thankfully worked out brilliantly. It certainly wasnt a conveyor belt of brilliant signings following a superbly executed plan that's for sure. Edited 30 December, 2024 by Turkish 5
Badger Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 (edited) 20 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: CONFIRMED: We are staying up! (We all know how reliable he is) Crook may be a cretin, but no arguing with him there is there?. Credit to him for stating the obvious perhaps, but at least he has said it publicly. Over to Big Adam in Solent studio. Edited 30 December, 2024 by Badger 3
SouSaint Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 It's time the stadium got toxic towards this lot. They are the root of our problems, a bunch of data driven goons. They've invested the money into signings, but my god, what an absolute clusterfuck it's been. Not many hits, plenty of misses. The 2022/23 transfer windows were laughable when you look back on them now, we signed crap like Bazunu for more money than Fulham paid for Leno. It seems to me that every signing is being made with us wanting to profit on them later down the line, but you have to find a middle ground here. People always say that it isn't in our nature to go and spend out £30m on a player but the club has no issues signing three shit ones for £10m a pop. Why is it constantly quantity over quality for this lot? I really hoped going into this season we would see a different approach transfer wise, but it's the same crap. Archer, Sugawara, BBD, Wood, Edwards - They are all Championship standard players, Archer possibly has potential for the Premier League, but he isn't ready for it at the moment IMO. Downes and THB have been disappointing as well, but they were two signings we needed to make after their performances last season. Fernandes looks a hit but he clearly isn't a box to box, he looks far better near the opposition box than he does near ours - the defensive side of his game is quite poor imo and he's having to play there because of our ignorance towards the midfield in the summer. Now let's get onto the managerial side of things from these jokers, Ralph was done - We ended the 21/22 season horribly under him and a decision should have been made to part ways in the summer, we didn't and our form carried over - although failure to sign a striker didn't help the situation. The less said about Nathan Jones, the better. Selles was a random throw of a dice after this lot tried to get Jesse Marsch to see out the season, jesus christ. Martin was a good appointment for the Championship but I'll be honest, I always worried about what would happen if/when he got us up. We always looked a bit too open in the Championship defensively under him but most sides didn't have the quality to punish us. I will always be grateful for that day and moment at Wembley, the final whistle is probably the best moment I've had supporting this club since starting in the 90s but it was so obvious, very early on, that RM in the Premier League was going to be an absolute embarrassment. For me, he needed to go after the Bournemouth game and most definitely after the Leicester game. SR's decision to persist with him has lined us up to have the most humiliating season in our history and one that will go into the Premier League record book. He would probably still be here if Spurs had won 2-0 or something more 'acceptable'. The statement when he was sacked had the owners highlight the gap between the Premier League and the Championship but let me just remind you that after our first game under SR we were 11th in the Premier League whereas the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest were all battling for promotion in the Championship. We are now lightyears away from those three clubs. All I want is for us to be competitive in the league we're competing in. The scouting, the leadership and the plan need to be better. We need owners who will be ruthless in tough times but we've got these soft know it alls who think football is done on a spreadsheet. I really hope the match day fans make their feelins known to this lot before the season is out but plenty applauded relegation last time out and were quite happy to be spoonfed the shit coming from SR. Maybe most are just numb to it now. 12
John B Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 On 10/12/2024 at 09:01, Miltonaggro said: When you think that we were in the top half of the table, established in the Premier League for over a decade when these jokers came in, their abject failure is truly spectacular. We are a bin fire instigated in the main by three people, two ideas men who have no fucking idea, and a money man who appears to be happy to lose money. What an avoidable mess! I agree that SR have been a complete disaster but when they bought the club I felt we were indecline as we did not have any stand out players We had Tino but nobody else that I can remember who have gone on to shine else where JWP is now a bit player 1
Mr X Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 (edited) Incompetent decisions from SR on all fronts from sticking with Martin for way too long to appaling player recruitment to giving rasmus too much control on footballing decisions... Will they have learnt from their mistakes when we are back in.the championship?... I think not... Can't ever see us being a stable successful club under them Edited 30 December, 2024 by Mr X
John B Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 16 minutes ago, Mr X said: Incompetent decisions from SR on all fronts from sticking with Martin for way too long to appaling player recruitment to giving rasmus too much control on footballing decisions... Will they have learnt from their mistakes when we are back in.the championship?... I think not... Can't ever see us being a stable successful club under them Can't ever see us being a stable successful club under any owner for some time we just do not have any top class players who would want to stay with us can you or join us either Nothing outstanding in the Academy apart from Dibling other PL clubs building steadily 1
saintant Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 1 hour ago, SouSaint said: It's time the stadium got toxic towards this lot. They are the root of our problems, a bunch of data driven goons. They've invested the money into signings, but my god, what an absolute clusterfuck it's been. Not many hits, plenty of misses. The 2022/23 transfer windows were laughable when you look back on them now, we signed crap like Bazunu for more money than Fulham paid for Leno. It seems to me that every signing is being made with us wanting to profit on them later down the line, but you have to find a middle ground here. People always say that it isn't in our nature to go and spend out £30m on a player but the club has no issues signing three shit ones for £10m a pop. Why is it constantly quantity over quality for this lot? I really hoped going into this season we would see a different approach transfer wise, but it's the same crap. Archer, Sugawara, BBD, Wood, Edwards - They are all Championship standard players, Archer possibly has potential for the Premier League, but he isn't ready for it at the moment IMO. Downes and THB have been disappointing as well, but they were two signings we needed to make after their performances last season. Fernandes looks a hit but he clearly isn't a box to box, he looks far better near the opposition box than he does near ours - the defensive side of his game is quite poor imo and he's having to play there because of our ignorance towards the midfield in the summer. Now let's get onto the managerial side of things from these jokers, Ralph was done - We ended the 21/22 season horribly under him and a decision should have been made to part ways in the summer, we didn't and our form carried over - although failure to sign a striker didn't help the situation. The less said about Nathan Jones, the better. Selles was a random throw of a dice after this lot tried to get Jesse Marsch to see out the season, jesus christ. Martin was a good appointment for the Championship but I'll be honest, I always worried about what would happen if/when he got us up. We always looked a bit too open in the Championship defensively under him but most sides didn't have the quality to punish us. I will always be grateful for that day and moment at Wembley, the final whistle is probably the best moment I've had supporting this club since starting in the 90s but it was so obvious, very early on, that RM in the Premier League was going to be an absolute embarrassment. For me, he needed to go after the Bournemouth game and most definitely after the Leicester game. SR's decision to persist with him has lined us up to have the most humiliating season in our history and one that will go into the Premier League record book. He would probably still be here if Spurs had won 2-0 or something more 'acceptable'. The statement when he was sacked had the owners highlight the gap between the Premier League and the Championship but let me just remind you that after our first game under SR we were 11th in the Premier League whereas the likes of Fulham, Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest were all battling for promotion in the Championship. We are now lightyears away from those three clubs. All I want is for us to be competitive in the league we're competing in. The scouting, the leadership and the plan need to be better. We need owners who will be ruthless in tough times but we've got these soft know it alls who think football is done on a spreadsheet. I really hope the match day fans make their feelins known to this lot before the season is out but plenty applauded relegation last time out and were quite happy to be spoonfed the shit coming from SR. Maybe most are just numb to it now. Good post with many excellent points.
Badger Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 1 hour ago, SouSaint said: It's time the stadium got toxic towards this lot. They are the root of our problems, a bunch of data driven goons. Maybe most are just numb to it now. Good post, and good points raised, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if it turned toxic with our fan base. The supporters have a target to blame in Rasmus, but what ?? He doesn't walk the touchline as Branfoot used to, so not sure where the focal point of the vitriol is likely to stem from. How many games did it take for things to turn on RM ? Yes, people are currently numb to it, and resigned to our relegation. But I recall the feeling of indifference at The Dell after a loss at home to QPR in December (might have been the second home defeat in a week). Not much booing even at the end of the game, just a unified groan and the sounds of seats being left. Within a couple of weeks though it turned and the atmosphere was quite different especially v Port Vale in the Cup, so things can change. Questionable if the modern fan has the appetite though. 2
Miltonaggro Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 On 27/12/2024 at 18:34, AlexLaw76 said: As we are in the midst of the festive period, sat rock bottom on single-digit points, set to be one of if not the worst premier league side ever... Who else believes SR are leading un into, or even through, our greatest era in our history? Dirk Gherkin!
Convict Colony Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 Just a reminder since SR have bought us we are a net 57m total spend in the last 3 seasons, so effectively spent 19m a season. Thank fuck we sold Lavia, JWP, Tino etc https://www.transfermarkt.com/southampton-fc/transfers/verein/180/plus/?saison_id=2023&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=
sfc4prem Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/dec/30/jonathan-wilson-newsletter-relegation-zone-clubs-premier-league?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Decent (not hugely revelatory) piece about the gulf between PL and FL.
Matthew Le God Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 (edited) 18 hours ago, SouSaint said: It's time the stadium got toxic towards this lot. How does that help? They will be aware they've fucked up. They have very little incentive to sell the club at the moment as it would be at a huge loss compared to what has been spent. We are heading towards relegation and the club value will nose dive until we get promoted again. It makes zero sense for them to sell at a huge loss. Edited 31 December, 2024 by Matthew Le God 1
saintant Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 25 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: How does that help? They will be aware they've fucked up. They have very little incentive to sell the club at the moment as it would be at a huge loss compared to wgaf has been spent. We are heading towards relegation and the club value will nose dive until we get promoted again. It makes zero sense for them to sell at a huge loss. Might stir Dragan into appointing a decent Director of Football to take charge of some of the important stuff because Rasmus and his crew clearly have no idea. 3
FredVaFC59100 Posted 30 December, 2024 Posted 30 December, 2024 The balance sheet is what matters at the end of day. Dragan and Co are no philanthropists. It is clearly negative with VA FC. How is it with the two other clubs ? 1
Convict Colony Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 12 hours ago, FredVaFC59100 said: The balance sheet is what matters at the end of day. Dragan and Co are no philanthropists. It is clearly negative with VA FC. How is it with the two other clubs ? I guess Gozteppe might me making a profit this summer on their players based on their peformance, the rest of us not so much. I say Dragan buys out Rasmus/Kraft, appoints someone to run the football side like Ashworth who then has each director of football report to him and has ultimate accountability. 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 24 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: I guess Gozteppe might me making a profit this summer on their players based on their peformance, the rest of us not so much. I say Dragan buys out Rasmus/Kraft, appoints someone to run the football side like Ashworth who then has each director of football report to him and has ultimate accountability. This entirely. Rasmus Ankersen is a fraud and shouldn’t be near the football club. Until a decent director of football is put in place things will continue to regress. As for MLG saying “why should we get on the back of them?”, give me one reason we shouldn’t. There is no acknowledgment, no accountability and no plan in place. Why the fuck do fans care about a new bar, or beer, or a stadium expansion? Quite simply until the football operation is correct the rest is irrelevant. 3
Mr X Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 The real People to blame are those that did due diligence on sports republic and said they were the best option! 2 1
Matthew Le God Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 10 minutes ago, Mr X said: The real People to blame are those that did due diligence on sports republic and said they were the best option! What checks are you suggesting they should have done that they didn't do? Plus why would Gao care beyond getting the best price possible?
Matthew Le God Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 16 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: This entirely. Rasmus Ankersen is a fraud and shouldn’t be near the football club. Until a decent director of football is put in place things will continue to regress. As for MLG saying “why should we get on the back of them?”, give me one reason we shouldn’t. There is no acknowledgment, no accountability and no plan in place. Why the fuck do fans care about a new bar, or beer, or a stadium expansion? Quite simply until the football operation is correct the rest is irrelevant. They've messed up a lot of things with us. But how do you think they've got Göztepe to 4th? Sure, you might not care about Göztepe, but they've done very well. What does a protest or turning the stadium atmosphere toxic achieve? It doesn't help turn results around, if anything a negative match atmosphere makes it harder. What do you what then to publicly acknowledge? What do you want them to publicly state about a plan that would satisfy you? The business and football operation aren't seperate, they are intertwined. Increasing revenue helps us spend more on players and hopefully a better team performance. So it is not irrelevant at all.
S-Clarke Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: But how do you think they've got Göztepe to 4th? By using SFC as a vehicle to purchase players from Brazil and Japan, and then loan them to Goztepe. Or using our sales as a way to negotiate cheap/player swaps for their club. Edited 31 December, 2024 by S-Clarke 2
SaintNewForest Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 Get these clowns out and away from our club. Utterly inept bunch of charlatans. 1
FarehamSaintJames Posted 31 December, 2024 Posted 31 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: They've messed up a lot of things with us. But how do you think they've got Göztepe to 4th? Sure, you might not care about Göztepe, but they've done very well. What does a protest or turning the stadium atmosphere toxic achieve? It doesn't help turn results around, if anything a negative match atmosphere makes it harder. What do you what then to publicly acknowledge? What do you want them to publicly state about a plan that would satisfy you? The business and football operation aren't seperate, they are intertwined. Increasing revenue helps us spend more on players and hopefully a better team performance. So it is not irrelevant at all. You’ve got to have people going to the games to generate revenue. If you think 40,000/50,000 people are going to be content to spend an increased price on season tickets to watch us in an inferior division with worse players and less money to spend you’re deluded. Goztepe don’t generate a lot of money. They’re just the Saints feeder club. Saints buy and loan to them, those players are half decent enough for that league. You can’t compare the scenarios.
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