Wade Garrett Posted Saturday at 11:14 Posted Saturday at 11:14 On 08/01/2025 at 10:22, manji said: I’d say 80% of fans think their club is the worst run club. Talking to a hardcore Hull fan they are having a meltdown because Selles hasn’t put them in a promotion position. It’s has been shit this season but really how many really expected us to do well this season ? stop being a fucking drama queen . It’s getting harder and harder to sustain a solid position in the PL. I’d reckon even Forest are having a false dawn. it’s ages since Sir Jim took over United, Spurs all over the place and so on.t how long you been supporting Saints ? I remember we were stuffed 7-0 by Everton, no meltdown by fans think it was the following week we then beat Boro 4-0. Im not defending SR but again we could have a lot worse in charge. I’d be happy with Elon Musk in charge but in a lot of ways I hate clubs being used as pawns. fucking hell Sir Jim Ratcliffe that would be really bad and that’s without mentioning his unsavory history. Cock
Morse Posted Saturday at 11:20 Posted Saturday at 11:20 19 hours ago, Turkish said: The recent "sale" of this French kid to us for €5m is good news for the SR Group. There is virtually no money in French football these days aside from the big clubs so £5m is a huge windwall for Valencieenes. Their biggest ever transfer fee received before this was €3m in 2012. This money would surely enable them to at least buy their way in the second tier, possibly even the top league. Transfer market values Sanda at €800k and the entire Vaelencieenes squad at only €7m with not a single player valued at over €1m. Signing a player from the third tier of French football for a fee so large certainly seems a little unprecedented, whilst €5m is not much by premier league standards It's either the 2nd or 3rd biggest fee ever from a 3rd tier French club. Certainly seems like Valencieenes are also going to benefit from premier league money while it last. So to paraphrase, Saints are subsidising the French outfit. And probably the turks too. 4
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 11:38 Posted Saturday at 11:38 On 08/01/2025 at 10:22, manji said: I’d say 80% of fans think their club is the worst run club. Talking to a hardcore Hull fan they are having a meltdown because Selles hasn’t put them in a promotion position. It’s has been shit this season but really how many really expected us to do well this season ? stop being a fucking drama queen . It’s getting harder and harder to sustain a solid position in the PL. I’d reckon even Forest are having a false dawn. it’s ages since Sir Jim took over United, Spurs all over the place and so on.t how long you been supporting Saints ? I remember we were stuffed 7-0 by Everton, no meltdown by fans think it was the following week we then beat Boro 4-0. Im not defending SR but again we could have a lot worse in charge. I’d be happy with Elon Musk in charge but in a lot of ways I hate clubs being used as pawns. fucking hell Sir Jim Ratcliffe that would be really bad and that’s without mentioning his unsavory history. Do you still think Sports republic are leading us into the greatest era in our history? 1
Turkish Posted Saturday at 12:21 Posted Saturday at 12:21 59 minutes ago, Morse said: So to paraphrase, Saints are subsidising the French outfit. And probably the turks too. It certainly appears that way, making the most of premier league money while they can to elevate the other clubs thus increasing the value of the overall portfolio. Too bad they got the first part of it wrong
Göztepe Posted Saturday at 12:23 Posted Saturday at 12:23 1 hour ago, Morse said: Yani özetle, Saints Fransız ekibine sübvansiyon sağlıyor. Ve muhtemelen Türklere de. No, Göztepe's expenses are not high anyway, the sports rebuplic covers the expenses. They probably transferred Sanda early so that he would not lose value in the French 3rd league and get the Premier League tag.
saintant Posted Saturday at 14:47 Posted Saturday at 14:47 Christ are they still here - get your finger out Dragan before they fleece you for another 100 million. 3
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 14:47 Posted Saturday at 14:47 2 hours ago, Göztepe said: No, Göztepe's expenses are not high anyway, the sports rebuplic covers the expenses. They probably transferred Sanda early so that he would not lose value in the French 3rd league and get the Premier League tag. Mate, saints are literally signing players and transferring them to Turkey.
Matthew Le God Posted Saturday at 15:05 Posted Saturday at 15:05 15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Mate, saints are literally signing players and transferring them to Turkey. Goztepe only have two Saints players on loan. Both of them were very cheap and signing them had very little impact on our ability to buy other players. Plus they are Saints players and may find a way into our first team.
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 18:16 Posted Saturday at 18:16 (edited) 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Goztepe only have two Saints players on loan. Both of them were very cheap and signing them had very little impact on our ability to buy other players. Plus they are Saints players and may find a way into our first team. So, saints are buying players are giving them to the Turkish team. they will never play for us and we’re likely never brought to play for us lis was another who started his journey at Saints… right? Edited Saturday at 18:17 by AlexLaw76 2
Göztepe Posted Saturday at 18:30 Posted Saturday at 18:30 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Yani evliyalar oyuncu satın alıyor, Türk Milli Takımı'na veriyor. onlar asla bizim için oynamayacaklar ve biz de büyük ihtimalle asla bizim için oynamaya getirilmiyoruz lis de Saints'te yolculuğuna başlayanlardan biriydi... değil mi? The money Dragan spent on you is 100 million euros, the money he spent on us is 5 million euros
Convict Colony Posted Saturday at 18:40 Posted Saturday at 18:40 9 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The money Dragan spent on you is 100 million euros, the money he spent on us is 5 million euros Damn well he's finally getting a good return on the investment, congrats for this season as well amigo
AlexLaw76 Posted Saturday at 18:42 Posted Saturday at 18:42 11 minutes ago, Göztepe said: The money Dragan spent on you is 100 million euros, the money he spent on us is 5 million euros He also has access to massive TV money at Saints. 1
Matthew Le God Posted Saturday at 18:55 Posted Saturday at 18:55 38 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: So, saints are buying players are giving them to the Turkish team. they will never play for us and we’re likely never brought to play for us Why have you written those two players off from playing for Saints?
ChristopheVAFC Posted Saturday at 19:43 Posted Saturday at 19:43 7 hours ago, Turkish said: Il semble bien que ce soit le cas, car ils profitent au maximum de l'argent de la Premier League tant qu'ils le peuvent pour élever les autres clubs et ainsi augmenter la valeur du portefeuille global. Dommage qu'ils se soient trompés sur la première partie. After that, the transfer of players from one club to another belonging to the same owner is nothing new in modern football... Of course the €5m will do us good, I'm not saying otherwise, but on the one hand we're losing a player with potential, and it remains to be seen whether we'll recruit another similar player...
Nolan Posted Sunday at 09:54 Posted Sunday at 09:54 15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: So, saints are buying players are giving them to the Turkish team. they will never play for us and we’re likely never brought to play for us lis was another who started his journey at Saints… right? Kuryu Matsuki is a player coming to Southampton. The only reason he is currently at Göztepe is that he is there to earn the points to enable him to play in England. 2
Badger Posted Sunday at 10:20 Posted Sunday at 10:20 14 hours ago, ChristopheVAFC said: After that, the transfer of players from one club to another belonging to the same owner is nothing new in modern football... Of course the €5m will do us good, I'm not saying otherwise, but on the one hand we're losing a player with potential, and it remains to be seen whether we'll recruit another similar player... We don’t know how the deal is structured and whether it only reaches that amount on progressing through the ranks. Have to wonder how much of the 5m actually changes hands or to what degree, if any, it’s a ‘paper exercise’ within the group.
FarehamSaintJames Posted Sunday at 11:41 Posted Sunday at 11:41 Sport Republic can do a couple of very simple things to get fans back onside: - Open letter to supporters, admission of failure across all avenues across the club. It’s clear their focus has been commercial success rather than on the pitch - which you could argue they’ve shown an improvement in - Create a structure in the club where a director of football is in place, none of this hybrid “SR group” scouting, its needs to be scouts for the club. Long term manager and DOF aligned. There needs to be footballing knowledge in that boardroom and in key positions. If they changed these things it would win people back onside straight away, maybe not fully, but accountability for the fuck ups go a long way. 5
S-Clarke Posted Sunday at 11:45 Posted Sunday at 11:45 Just now, FarehamSaintJames said: Sport Republic can do a couple of very simple things to get fans back onside: - Open letter to supporters, admission of failure across all avenues across the club. It’s clear their focus has been commercial success rather than on the pitch - which you could argue they’ve shown an improvement in - Create a structure in the club where a director of football is in place, none of this hybrid “SR group” scouting, its needs to be scouts for the club. Long term manager and DOF aligned. There needs to be footballing knowledge in that boardroom and in key positions. If they changed these things it would win people back onside straight away, maybe not fully, but accountability for the fuck ups go a long way. I think an open letter would probably create more angst, I've had enough of their words - it's time they actually started delivering properly. I do agree that the footballing side internally, at upper levels, needs to be ripped apart and started again. I'd be able to get behind that. Our footballing decisions are currently being driven by a tech guy (Kraft) a former dyson exec (Parsons) and a rugby performance director (Bitcon). That is where the problem lies. Those 3 positions are critical and are currently filled with people who have zero football experience. 3
FarehamSaintJames Posted Sunday at 11:49 Posted Sunday at 11:49 Couldn’t agree more. If there is no footballing know-how then it is just muppets spraying money around doing their research via a spreadsheet. Unfortunately football doesn’t work like that, ultimately it’s eleven v eleven everyday, and as much as talent counts for a lot, mentality and drive counts for just as much. Theyre happy to spend the money, they’ve done that. But the lack of knowledge or common sense is a shambles in the way they have spent it. 4
saintant Posted Monday at 17:58 Posted Monday at 17:58 Are these clowns still running our club. Get rid Dragan. 2
Convict Colony Posted Monday at 18:55 Posted Monday at 18:55 56 minutes ago, saintant said: Are these clowns still running our club. Get rid Dragan. at what point is dragan also considered a clown since he's bankrolled them.
saintant Posted Monday at 19:02 Posted Monday at 19:02 5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: at what point is dragan also considered a clown since he's bankrolled them. His time before being dubbed a clown is fast receding. Time he proved to us he is no fool. 1
Turkish Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago looks like our €5m winter signing will be moving elsewhere shortly Club in talks to sign Southampton defender - Only signed for Saints last week - Sport Witness 1
ChristopheVAFC Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Turkish said: looks like our €5m winter signing will be moving elsewhere shortly Club in talks to sign Southampton defender - Only signed for Saints last week - Sport Witness By the way, speaking of JKS, SR won't be paying Valenciennes the €5 all at once. From the news I got yesterday, it looks like €1.5m this year, €1.5m next year and the rest in 2 years' time... 1
leesaint88 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, ChristopheVAFC said: By the way, speaking of JKS, SR won't be paying Valenciennes the €5 all at once. From the news I got yesterday, it looks like €1.5m this year, €1.5m next year and the rest in 2 years' time... The modern football deal! I expect there might be a few other add on's, few extra euros if he makes 10 first team appearances etc.
Göztepe Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Turkish said: 5 milyon avroluk kış transferimizin yakında başka bir yere taşınacağı anlaşılıyor Kulüp Southampton defans oyuncusunu transfer etmek için görüşmelerde bulunuyor - Geçtiğimiz hafta Saints ile sözleşme imzaladı - Sport Witness The news published in Izmir's local media is generally false. There is a limit of 14 foreigners in the league, 2 places will be opened, our forward and midfield are injured. 1
Turkish Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 12 minutes ago, ChristopheVAFC said: By the way, speaking of JKS, SR won't be paying Valenciennes the €5 all at once. From the news I got yesterday, it looks like €1.5m this year, €1.5m next year and the rest in 2 years' time... thats a normal deal, its very rare that a deal is paid up front it's usually done over the period of the contract.
miserableoldgit Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: looks like our €5m winter signing will be moving elsewhere shortly Club in talks to sign Southampton defender - Only signed for Saints last week - Sport Witness Didn't Alfie House say that this wasn't true? 1
Saint86 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago On 08/01/2025 at 10:22, manji said: I’d be happy with Elon Musk in charge but in a lot of ways I hate clubs being used as pawns. In the grand schemes of unsavoury owners, any club could do far worse than Musk. Gao is rumoured to have effectively been a crook at had blood on his hands via some turncoat testimonies etc. There have certainly been some real bits of work in football ownership over the years, not to mention the being owned by human rights abusing regimes. But Musk would be something though... could it happen? We're a commercial port with decent links for shipping, have historic connections to America and former colonies like SA, plus there is a history of manufacturing local to the area with Ford and Spitfires in the war etc.. Sadly he's been strongly linked to the victims hasn't he? . But still... just imagine being sponsored by Space X as we "rocket" our way back up the leagues 😛, not to mention the commercial income we could expect to reasonably add through the likes of Tesla, Starlink, etc - let alone the exposure globally he would bring or via X etc... One thing looks fairly certain - Whoever Musk ultimately buys is going to easily be one of the commercially richest clubs in football at any rate.
Saint86 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago On 10/01/2025 at 18:03, hypochondriac said: I expect it's more that it's sports republic money in the group rather than Southampton money personally. Maybe the kid is really good and we will be able to sell him for more. I agree with you it does seem like a lot. 2-3 million seems more appropriate. Its £5M of Southampton's money as far as our books and PSR are concerned.
santolijador Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24855586.southampton-chairman-kraft-steps-solak-takes-control/ Kraft gone, Dragan in charge, DoF likely appointed soon 13
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-january-14-2025 Sounds like good news to me.
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Really good they've recognised a lack of drive and leadership.
lumuah Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Dragan to take over Club statement: January 14 | Southampton FC Official Site 6
beatlesaint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-january-14-2025 Sounds like good news to me. Sounds like Dragan has had a gut full and is no longer prepared for the SR guys to fuck about ! 1
beatlesaint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Really good they've recognised a lack of drive and leadership. Dragan has, not sure SR had ! 1
benali-shorts Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Odd that Kraft was so ineffectual, and good that the need for change has been recognised.
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Hoo-f**king-rah! Hope this means that Ankersen is told to stay well clear of SFC too...? 6
Osvaldorama Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Finally Some accountability. Hopefully he removes the recruitment team next Sack the lot and start again.
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Sounds like Dragan has had a gut full and is no longer prepared for the SR guys to fuck about ! Indeed... Southampton Football Club can announce that Henrik Kraft has decided to step down from his role as Chairman of the club, with Dragan Šolak, majority shareholder of the club’s ownership group, taking on the role. Kraft has devoted significant time and energy to the oversight of club operations and will remain a shareholder and on the board of Sport Republic. Commenting on the change, Dragan Šolak said: “I would like to thank Henrik for the dedication and passion he has invested in his role. “Whilst I am pleased with many aspects of the club’s management, I am deeply disappointed with the football results this season. We will be strengthening our football management team in the near future, and we will share details of that as soon as things are confirmed. “Our aim at the start of the season was to stay in the Premier League, and I know our fans share in my frustration at how this season has gone so far. I ask everyone to continue supporting the club with as much passion and dedication as they have shown all season as we navigate the rest of the season together.”
beatlesaint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, benali-shorts said: Odd that Kraft was so ineffectual, and good that the need for change has been recognised. Well lets be honest, its Dragan's money they have been pissing away !!
Lighthouse Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Without knowing what Kraft really did, day to day, the dreadful recruitment and transfer strategy since last spring has to fall on someone. Ultimately the wrong people (or lack thereof) were making the wrong decisions in the footballing side of the club. 2
CB Fry Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago I think we will struggle now without that guy doing whatever it is he did 21
CB Fry Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Having read the statement it reads like he is massively fucked off and Kraft taking the hit for it. Hopefully this will work out well eventually. 3
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 8 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: Dragan has, not sure SR had ! I thought he was part of sports Republic?
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Are the people who left Brighton still available? If so get them in.
sadoldgit Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 12 minutes ago, santolijador said: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24855586.southampton-chairman-kraft-steps-solak-takes-control/ Kraft gone, Dragan in charge, DoF likely appointed soon Good news so long as the recruitment improves across the board starting with a decent and effective DoF. 2
Nolan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: I thought he was part of sports Republic? Dragan is the money man, with Kraft and Ankersson spending his money. seems he's no longer willing to let them have control over the majority of the spending.
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