Pilchards Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 To start this off according to Sky with a guy outside the training ground. We have made contact with Everton for Theo Walcott. More development soon.
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Sounds like we're certainly interested in Theo. Really odd signing by us though. He has looked terrible at Everton (and that's being kind). I thought he'd end up in a lower league.
Dorchester Saint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Theo would be ok as an option for us, I find it a bit arrogant that people think we’re too good for a player like him....we’re not. He would also bring with him, a lot of experience for the squad to learn from which should never be over estimated. If Ralph thinks this is a good move then who am I to argue. 1
Little Lat Pahars Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: Theo would be ok as an option for us, I find it a bit arrogant that people think we’re too good for a player like him....we’re not. He would also bring with him, a lot of experience for the squad to learn from which should never be over estimated. If Ralph thinks this is a good move then who am I to argue. I don't think its arrogance. He will be on huge wages (unless Everton are subsidising alot) and not sure what he will bring to us, we already have two very fast but limited forwards and he doesnt suit the Redmond/Armstrong role. The signing doesnt make sense to me personally but if Ralph actually wants him then who am I to judge.
tajjuk Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Everton sign Ben Godfrey, like that, shame we don't have the funds for these sort of transfers anymore. Young and English centre-back with pace, potentially could become a very good player.
SuperSAINT Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 (edited) The multiple transfer thread saga begins Mods: Close one? & Sticky another? Edited 5 October, 2020 by SuperSAINT
John Boy Saint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Why would we want Walcott - he’s made of glass! And at 31 seemingly runs against the grain of our more recent recruitment policy.
skintsaint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 23 minutes ago, tajjuk said: Everton sign Ben Godfrey, like that, shame we don't have the funds for these sort of transfers anymore. Young and English centre-back with pace, potentially could become a very good player. He was horrible last season. Risky signing for me.
skintsaint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 F'n Walcott - it better not be...already have my Everton supporting mates giving me too much crap about them being top....now we are taking that turd off a player off them too. Waste of money on his wages too.
Toussaint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 I'd say he's finished, happy to be proved wrong, don't think I will be.
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 I guess if we look at this as a straight comparison with Boufal, Theo will certainly add more to the squad than he did. So that's something. I wonder how much influence Matt Crocker ahs had on this? I'm pretty certain he was part of the academy setup when Theo was here.
igsey Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 hour ago, tajjuk said: Everton sign Ben Godfrey, like that, shame we don't have the funds for these sort of transfers anymore. Young and English centre-back with pace, potentially could become a very good player. How tf are Everton affording all of these players? Rodriguez, Allan, Doucoure, Nkounkou, now Godfrey. I know they have rich owners but doesn't FFP exist to stop teams spending outside of their operating incomes? They've not made any big sales and they finished 12th last season... unless I'm missing something?
Nolan Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 minute ago, igsey said: How tf are Everton affording all of these players? Rodriguez, Allan, Doucoure, Nkounkou, now Godfrey. I know they have rich owners but doesn't FFP exist to stop teams spending outside of their operating incomes? They've not made any big sales and they finished 12th last season... unless I'm missing something? It did, until City got away with breaking the rules.
Monk Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I guess if we look at this as a straight comparison with Boufal, Theo will certainly add more to the squad than he did. So that's something. I wonder how much influence Matt Crocker ahs had on this? I'm pretty certain he was part of the academy setup when Theo was here. 😉
Monk Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Are we not going to play the game? Let's see if we can get our own rumor on SSN?
jamesfp1 Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Walcott is a weird one, been pretty poor at Everton, but i trust Ralph. A fresh environment can give a player a lift.
eelpie Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 hour ago, Little Lat Pahars said: I don't think its arrogance. He will be on huge wages (unless Everton are subsidising alot) and not sure what he will bring to us, we already have two very fast but limited forwards and he doesnt suit the Redmond/Armstrong role. The signing doesnt make sense to me personally but if Ralph actually wants him then who am I to judge. What if Theo were to come on loan, subsidised by Everton?
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Interesting to read all the latest rumours. None of them sound particularly convincing and it seems odd that Saints would suddenly abandon the transfer policy that has stood them in good stead on many an occasion (albeit that some more recent transfers like Carillo, etc. may have challenged this outlook). Personally I feel that it is odd that we would be looking at Theo, but if he does come then I hope he can rediscover something of the raw talent that caused him to attract the attention which led him to leave Saints in the first place. I well remember the adulation he recieved when he first came to prominence and the frightening speed he demonstrated in what I think was his debut - away to one of the Sheffield clubs I think. Squad Needs Overall, if we don't sign anyone today it is not the end of the world, but it is interesting to analyse our current squad to see where the needs are. A look at the Saints squad in terms of at least two players for every position is interesting (NB Don't read too much into the order of players or the slightly arbitrary nature of the labels for positions!): GK: McCarthy, Forster, Gunn, Lewis (Surprisingly listed on OS as part of first team squad) LB: Bertrand, Vokins, (McQueen - LT Injury & not listed on Saints website in any squad!) RB: KWP, Valery CB1: Bednarek, Stephens CB2: Salisu, Vestergaard CM/DM1: Romeu, Diallo CM/DM2: Ward-Prowse, Smallbone AM1: Redmond, Djenepo AM2: Armstrong, Boufal CF1: Ings, Obafemi CF2: Adams, Long, Tella It is interesting that the following players are identified as B-Team players: Slattery, Sims, Hesketh (and Tella is in both first-team and B-team squads!) Looking at that squad list backs up the idea that if we sell Boufal then we need also to bring in a replacement who would provide cover for Armstrong. As others have rightly suggested, other areas we might also look to strengthen include the full-back positions. After that reserve CM and CF positions coulkd also be strengthened though they don't seem a particularly urgent need at present. Future Prospects? I think the big questions must be about what the future prospects are for Smallbone, Obafemi, Tella, Valery and Vokins and how we best give them experience. Obviously there are also similar questions about those who have been dropped from the first team squad onto the B-Team.
ErwinK1961 Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Rashica would be excellent - rumours end of last week that Leeds and us were the interested prem teams, though note Leeds are signing a winger from Rennes - so would only leave us? Though Villa pulled out as he was too expensive (wages)... so not sure how we would afford it? Also, would then loan him out? Surely they'd want a sale. 1
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 8 minutes ago, Monk said: 😉 Ah, I've been unintentionally ITK!
Lighthouse Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Ah, I've been unintentionally ITK! No, I think he’s actually coming on to you. 1
DT Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Man United have no intention of allowing Brandon Williams to leave on loan, after Southampton made an enquiry #saintsfc [mirror]
Little Lat Pahars Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 4 minutes ago, eelpie said: What if Theo were to come on loan, subsidised by Everton? If Everton are subsidising alot of his wages so his costs are more in line with our average wage level then it wouldn't be a huge risk. But I still don't see where he would fit in unless Obafemi is going out on loan. But like I say if Ralph wants him then in Ralph I trust.
saintjimbo83 Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 I'd love to be proved wrong, but I don't think Walcott would be a good signing. He is an older version of Redmond with a bit more pace. Apart from Ings (Romeu yesterday), we don't have a lot of clinical players and Walcott is not clinical at all. He isn't a very clever player either and is constantly offside. I guess apart from the wages, he would be relatively low risk. Good PR from the club too
DT Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pat from Poole said: Pascal Gross is an interesting rumour. Good player. And fits the German/Austrian mould... 1
Convict Colony Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted this in the other thread Twitteris talking about Pascal Grob from Birghton.... would normally discount it but he played for Ingolstadt for 3yrs under Ralph, knows the system and more squad depth ? Apparently created a lot of chances when playing for them from midfield "He created more chances than any other player in the league that season, a total of 95 chances." Groß can operate as a central midfielder, a winger, and an attacking midfielder - sounds useful 1
saintwbu Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Groß definitely has an eye for a pass, which is something we lack particularly in home games against teams sitting deep. I can’t see it happening, but personally i’d be very pleased with it.
rudi7s Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Would really like Gross. Genuine quality with final pass, which we so often lack. 1
DT Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 oh woe Southampton are ‘increasingly confident’ of signing Theo Walcott on a season-long loan from Everton, Saints will pay around 50% of his wages #saintsfc [athletic]
Give it to Ron Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Just now, DT said: Genuine step backwards Unlike you to be negative . will he offer more than Boufal and Smallbone?
Give it to Ron Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Carillo and Boufal almost done passed medicals 1
DT Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Give it to Ron said: Carillo and Boufal almost done passed medicals First time Carillo has passed anything successfully... 2 4
Teddeer Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 I don't think Walcott adds anything to the squad. Even at his best he was little more than a player who had the ability to run quickly with the ball at his feet. He's never been a great finisher, tends to drift out of games for long periods and has absolutely no footballing brain. Not for me.
team-saint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Gross was really good in his first season at Brighton, but seems to have faded in the two seasons since. Anyone know what's happened there? Can a player who can't get in the team at Brighton really come and improve us?
nta786 Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Not too impressed with Theo coming on loan, as echoed by others I think he is past it. However, if the options were nothing or Theo- then I would take Theo all day long! Ultimately, it is only a loan and he does offer something different- can play upfront or wide. So I guess- welcome aboard. I’m gonna predict he gets 5 goals in the PL.
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 23 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: No, I think he’s actually coming on to you. Well, I'll take that at the moment.
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 What's going on with Hoedt? We're not going to be left with him stinking the place out, are we?
beatlesaint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teddeer said: I don't think Walcott adds anything to the squad. Even at his best he was little more than a player who had the ability to run quickly with the ball at his feet. He's never been a great finisher, tends to drift out of games for long periods and has absolutely no footballing brain. Not for me. Averages one goal every 4 and a half games roughly......
Hatch Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Why get rid of Boufal and get Walcott. That’s a massive massive down grade 1
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Just now, Hatch said: Why get rid of Boufal and get Walcott. That’s a massive massive down grade Really? Not sure I see where you are coming from there. Theo isn't an amazing addition, no, but I'm fairly confident he is going to add more than the 'maybe he'll come good' Boufal.
John Boy Saint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What's going on with Hoedt? We're not going to be left with him stinking the place out, are we? I thought he was off to play with the Macaronis at Lazio the original Das Boot has a lot to answer for in my vocab
S-Clarke Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 Just now, John Boy Saint said: I thought he was off to play with the Macaronis at Lazio the original Das Boot has a lot to answer for in my vocab That's the last I heard...but it's all gone quiet!
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What's going on with Hoedt? We're not going to be left with him stinking the place out, are we? https://www.lalaziosiamonoi.it/news/calciomercato-lazio-de-grandis-hoedt-viene-respirato-come-una-beffa-130807 Stefano De Grandis commented on the purchase of Hoedt by Lazio and the discussions around the biancoceleste defense on Sky Sport: "The speech is always of quality. Lazio wanted a defender and started with an interest in Kumbulla and Verona. he asked for a lot. In the end he takes home Hoedt, who he sold for 17 million and resumes on a free loan with the right of redemption for 5 million in a year. It is clear that the fan remains with a bitter taste if Cagliari also takes Godin, Roma Kumbulla, everyone takes defenders of a certain depth. Hoedt is breathed in like a mockery. " Anyone able to translate that better than Google? I can translate French but not Italian! Looking at various Lazio related websites they are talking about Hoedt as already being a Lazio player but there seem to be suggestions that he is injured or not fit. Edited 5 October, 2020 by SaintJackoInHurworth
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: What's going on with Hoedt? We're not going to be left with him stinking the place out, are we? Was wondering the same
Give it to Ron Posted 5 October, 2020 Posted 5 October, 2020 (edited) Deandre Yedlin linked good back up https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-southampton-open-talks-to-sign-newcastle-united-27-yr-old/ Edited 5 October, 2020 by Give it to Ron 1
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