Whitey Grandad Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 17 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product. Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment. Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected. Exactly this. Eloquently argued.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product. Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment. Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected. They aren't. Sky and BT don't profit from the PPV games apart from advert break money which they'd get regardless of the cost of the game. The £15 from the PPV games goes to the Premier League to be split among clubs (minus TV production cost). Edited 25 October, 2020 by Matthew Le God
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: They aren't. Sky and BT don't profit from the PPV games apart from advert breaks. The £15 from the PPV games goes to the Premier League to be split among clubs (minus TV production cost). Correct. And a Sky source told The Mirror: 'Sky is not happy to be involved in showing the pay-per-view games. We never thought it was a good idea and nothing's changed since it started. 'It is damaging the reputation of Sky Sports to be linked to this scheme – and that feeling is shared at BT. Everyone here would prefer for it to stop.'
SaintBobby Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 19 hours ago, Jimmy_D said: The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product. Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment. Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected. The price is hardly the same as going to the game itself. Sure, the experience isn't as good, but it's way cheaper. About half price even if you're the only viewer. £7.50 per head in my household. For a family of four you're looking at £15 rather than around £150, depending on travel costs, higher food drink/costs etc
nta786 Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Correct. And a Sky source told The Mirror: 'Sky is not happy to be involved in showing the pay-per-view games. We never thought it was a good idea and nothing's changed since it started. 'It is damaging the reputation of Sky Sports to be linked to this scheme – and that feeling is shared at BT. Everyone here would prefer for it to stop.' I thought they [Sky and BT] were the ones getting pissed off that games were being given away for free because it reduced the value of the games they originally scheduled or something like that?
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Nice free kick by Murphy of Newcastle, that helps us if it stays all square.
trousers Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 5 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: Nice free kick by Murphy of Newcastle, that helps us if it stays all square. Bugger (got two wolves defenders in my FF team, which is obviously far more important than the impact on Saints )
OttawaSaint Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, trousers said: Bugger (got two wolves defenders in my FF team, which is obviously far more important than the impact on Saints ) My FPL is a mess this week. 24 pts so far. Bamford stranded on the bench.
SNSUN Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: My FPL is a mess this week. 24 pts so far. Bamford stranded on the bench. I transferred him out this week! Ffs And Jota, who scored for Liverpool. Chilwell is my highest scoring player with six. Bad week. Unless Kane does something miraculous. West Ham continue to surprise me this season. Their fixtures looked so tough but they’ve done very well so far. Whether they can be as good through the “easier” games remains to be seen.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Fucking hell. Kieron Dyer is living up to his name, dire punditry. Wonder how he got the gig ?
nta786 Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Fucking hell. Kieron Dyer is living up to his name, dire punditry. Wonder how he got the gig ? It is black history month. There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky.
Shroppie Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 Vardy scores. That's Saints back up to 6th. 😀
Cartman Posted 25 October, 2020 Posted 25 October, 2020 1 hour ago, nta786 said: It is black history month. There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky. Oh FFS. Can we stop imitating the fücking americans. We are not the 51st state. 1
rooney Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 12 hours ago, nta786 said: It is black history month. There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky. But before that there was 10 mins dedicated to Calvert- Lewin and we were the home team!
Turkish Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 Early days I know but you’d expect Wins for Brighton and spurs tonight which would mean the bottom 4 are already 5 points adrift of 16th. If their starts are anything to go by then it could be a long season for them. as for the top half the conspiracy theorist in me says that with all the premier league being interested in are viewing figures and profits with only one of last season top four currently in the top six will we start to see a few favourable decisions going in the big clubs favour over the coming weeks to help them back to their rightful place? After all it came from then chairman of the premier leagues mouth a few years ago that Man United not being in the champions league is bad for premier league business.
whelk Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 what has happened to all the goals and crazy scores? Load of very dull games now. Has anyone published any PPV ratings? Can’t believe neutrals are paying for these borefests. 530pm on Monday is a weird time for a game yet now seems regular slot.
S-Clarke Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 33 minutes ago, whelk said: what has happened to all the goals and crazy scores? Load of very dull games now. Has anyone published any PPV ratings? Can’t believe neutrals are paying for these borefests. 530pm on Monday is a weird time for a game yet now seems regular slot. The PPV stats are prob rubbish. Apparently BT and Sky are against the idea of PPV, but I find that incredibly hard to believe seeing as it's their platforms showing it. If they were that against it then they could have just told the PL to stream it on their website behind a paywall. Like you said, no neutral is going to pay 15 quid to watch Brighton v West Brom. Just like no one is going to pay 15 quid to watch Villa v Us.
whelk Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 They should just allow Amazon to write the cheque and hoover up all the spare games. Not sure BT and Sky would go for it but if as unhappy as you report?
whelk Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 Brilliant VAR again. Ignoring that thug Barnes elbow on Toby A. These cunts can’t run anything properly and just back their mates
Shroppie Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 58 minutes ago, whelk said: Brilliant VAR again. Ignoring that thug Barnes elbow on Toby A. These cunts can’t run anything properly and just back their mates The inconsistency is awful. Almost as bad as the Burnley Spurs game itself.
trousers Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 (edited) I know I'm in deluded 'counting chickens' territory way before they've hatched, but has anyone seen a team so far this season that we shouldn't be confident about getting a positive result against? Edit: cue Spurs goal Edited 26 October, 2020 by trousers
SaintBobby Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 3 hours ago, S-Clarke said: The PPV stats are prob rubbish. Apparently BT and Sky are against the idea of PPV, but I find that incredibly hard to believe seeing as it's their platforms showing it. If they were that against it then they could have just told the PL to stream it on their website behind a paywall. Like you said, no neutral is going to pay 15 quid to watch Brighton v West Brom. Just like no one is going to pay 15 quid to watch Villa v Us. I’ve been a defender of PPV. But gees, if this Burnley v Spurs game had cost me £15, I’d be suing to get my cash back. Would be interesting to know the take up rate - maybe 20,000 or so payers? Wild guess there...
S-Clarke Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 (edited) Burnley look absolutely dreadful. Their only tactic is to try and drag their opponents down to their level, and then hope for corners and crosses. Teams like that haven't got any place in this league. Need shot of them. Edited 26 October, 2020 by S-Clarke 2
Cartman Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 Safe to say relegation won't be an issue this season, that bottom 6 look abysmal.
trousers Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cartman said: Safe to say relegation won't be an issue this season, that bottom 6 look abysmal. Man Utd aren't *that* bad are they...? 1
SaintBobby Posted 26 October, 2020 Posted 26 October, 2020 (edited) The bottom four look truly ropey - disregarding the matches they’ve played against each other, their combined record against the other 16 teams is: P 19 W 0 D 2 L 17 GD -29 Points per game - 0.105 Maybe Derby’s all time low points record of 11 is under serious threat this season? Edited 26 October, 2020 by SaintBobby
igsey Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 So the media already talking about how Spurs are challenging for the title this season - one point above us! Does that make us in the title race too?
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 15 hours ago, SaintBobby said: The bottom four look truly ropey - disregarding the matches they’ve played against each other, their combined record against the other 16 teams is: P 19 W 0 D 2 L 17 GD -29 Points per game - 0.105 Maybe Derby’s all time low points record of 11 is under serious threat this season? Strange to think that we're already nine points clear of the bottom three.
Didcot Saint Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 19 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Burnley look absolutely dreadful. Their only tactic is to try and drag their opponents down to their level, and then hope for corners and crosses. Teams like that haven't got any place in this league. Need shot of them. Absolutely bang on. They are the pub team of the Premier League
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 6 hours ago, igsey said: So the media already talking about how Spurs are challenging for the title this season - one point above us! Does that make us in the title race too? Who in the media?
trousers Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Who in the media? The oracle of English football... https://talksport.com/football/779840/redknapp-tottenham-premier-league-challengers-alli-admission/ p.s. didn't realise Hojbjerg used to be a security officer! 😂 Edited 27 October, 2020 by trousers 1 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 So that’s “the media” now is it, Saggy face. Every pundit I’ve heard or read has gone out of their way to state Spurs can’t win it, including Sky last night.
trousers Posted 27 October, 2020 Posted 27 October, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: So that’s “the media” now is it, Saggy face. Every pundit I’ve heard or read has gone out of their way to state Spurs can’t win it, including Sky last night. MLG Mode They *can" win it, but they probably won't Edited 27 October, 2020 by trousers
igsey Posted 28 October, 2020 Posted 28 October, 2020 14 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: So that’s “the media” now is it, Saggy face. Every pundit I’ve heard or read has gone out of their way to state Spurs can’t win it, including Sky last night. BBC were asking Kane after the Burnley game if this is their season, Kane said the cliché "take it one game at a time". So not just Saggy Chops.
The Cat Posted 28 October, 2020 Posted 28 October, 2020 Rotherham v Sheff Wed had to be paused for a while because someone flew a drone over the pitch.
Shroppie Posted 28 October, 2020 Posted 28 October, 2020 That Greenwood goal woukd have been offside with the PL VAR.
mikec Posted 29 October, 2020 Posted 29 October, 2020 Interesting fact reported by the BBC from tonight's Arsenal Vs Dundalk match - "Dundalk made a bit of history as the first team in the 10 years of the Europa League not to commit a single foul in a game." Must be quite a rare event. Didn't help them much though - they still lost 3-0
skintsaint Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 City all over Sheff Utd. De Bruyne so good to watch..superb player.
skintsaint Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 1 nil city. Nice goal. De Bruyne setting it up no surprise.
skintsaint Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 Sheff Utds good start continues....still only 1 point.
Toadhall Saint Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 23 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Ziyech 1 nil to Chelsea Would have loved to see him here.
Whitey Grandad Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 1 hour ago, skintsaint said: Sheff Utds good start continues....still only 1 point. Sheff Utd seemed determined to keep it down to 1-0. Any time they had a chance to get the ball into the box they passed it backwards
Suhari Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 25 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Chelsea 3 up....Werner With a bit of luck this will be the best result Burnley get this season.
SaintBobby Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 So, the record of the bottom four against the other 16 teams is now: Pld 21 Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 19 Points 2 GD -33 Points per game is 0.095
The Cat Posted 31 October, 2020 Posted 31 October, 2020 Liverpool losing to a West Ham team whose best player is out.
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