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12 hours ago, JustinSFC said:

I still think we've got a better team than they have on paper.

Moyes is using a system that plays to the strengths of all the players as a unit.

If we take one of Walker-Peters or Ings out of our team, we can't play our system and there isn't another one.

And this goes from u'18's right through to the first team.

This. Shrewd assessment. Ralph's rigidity to one way of playing is not good. That said, when it works, it's great. We rode our luck yesterday; watching it back it could easily have gone their way in key moments, and our finishing/Walcott's decision making will be punished in other games. What a player Armstrong is, though.

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6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why is that a good thing? 

Do you not think that a couple of non ‘traditional’ top 4 teams getting into the top 4 is a good thing, for a club like us then?

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45 minutes ago, Heisenberg said:

We don't laugh at West Ham anymore? That's annoying
 

Be great to see Leicester and WHU take 2 of the top 4 spots. 
 

Worryingly Liverpool seem to have a reletivelty easy run in 

West Ham also have one of the easiest run ins (see link), so they might keep in front of Liverpool, which means they'd have to make up 7 points on Leicester over the 8 games.  Lots of twists and turns to go, but it would be funny for them to miss out.

https://www.football365.com/news/arsenal-and-liverpool-top-premier-league-run-in-table

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13 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be fair I don't think anyone predicted he would come out with this run of form, I doubt even West Ham fans would have, he was very poor at Utd and had been for a while. Shows what confidence can do for a player though. I still personally think this is a purple patch rather than his true ability, but he is probably not as bad as many make out but we'll see if this form lasts. 

I mean fair play, both Moyes and Lingaard are currently proving a lot of people wrong who had written them off. 

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48 minutes ago, SKD said:

Do you not think that a couple of non ‘traditional’ top 4 teams getting into the top 4 is a good thing, for a club like us then?

No, it gives West Ham and Leicester extra resources to further pull away from us. So how is it a good thing?

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21 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

No, it gives West Ham and Leicester extra resources to further pull away from us. So how is it a good thing?

Last time Leicester got into CL they finished 12th that season...then 9th after that...then 9th again another year later.  

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2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

No, it gives West Ham and Leicester extra resources to further pull away from us. So how is it a good thing?

It also closes the gap between the big 6 and everyone else. If it’s a closed group, what’s the point in everyone outside competing? 
 

Anyway, West Ham and Leicester already have extra resources to pull away from us... as shown. 

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27 minutes ago, SKD said:

It also closes the gap between the big 6 and everyone else. If it’s a closed group, what’s the point in everyone outside competing? 
 

Anyway, West Ham and Leicester already have extra resources to pull away from us... as shown. 

I’m not sure maybe the point MLG trying to make is with the additional resources, if utilised correctly could make WHU/Leicester become mainstays for the top half of the table (of which we too are competing for), and then in turn it makes it harder for us. 

For example, if competing for a transfer, player X may prefer WHU/Leicester because they have a season in Europe over us.

Let’s be honest, we wasted our potential after the high of 2016 - but as illustrated above I think there is no guarantee WHU/Leicester will maintain this sort of form consistently even with ‘additional resources’

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MLG is making a very narrow point about what is best for Saints' chances of moving up the league and being "best of the rest", when actually as football fans more broadly many of us would just like a bit more variation at the top rather than the same old monopoly of the top six

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3 hours ago, tajjuk said:

To be fair I don't think anyone predicted he would come out with this run of form, I doubt even West Ham fans would have, he was very poor at Utd and had been for a while. Shows what confidence can do for a player though. I still personally think this is a purple patch rather than his true ability, but he is probably not as bad as many make out but we'll see if this form lasts. 

I mean fair play, both Moyes and Lingaard are currently proving a lot of people wrong who had written them off. 

Moyes was always solid he took that United job directly after Fergie and that would have ruined anyone.

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7 minutes ago, cloggy saint said:

Lax maybe, but not disgraceful. 

 

Yes it is. These players are role models for the youngsters and they set a bad example to them. Trying to referee on a Sunday morning is bad enough as it is. It's bad enou h with all the swearing that they see on TV anyway. "Well Wayne Rooney does it"

Kicking the ball away to delay the restart of the game is a booking. No argument.

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4 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Yes it is. These players are role models for the youngsters and they set a bad example to them. Trying to referee on a Sunday morning is bad enough as it is. It's bad enou h with all the swearing that they see on TV anyway. "Well Wayne Rooney does it"

Kicking the ball away to delay the restart of the game is a booking. No argument.

Most local referees are jobsworth’s, and I played until I was 47 so saw a lot of them. You strike me as a typical local ref. Were you also a traffic warden? 

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55 minutes ago, The Cat said:

Liverpool 2-0 down. A terrible mistake by golden boy Trent Alexander who really is the most overrated player by our media. 

He can’t defend which for a defender is pretty much fundamental. Got a good cross on him but that’s no good when your in your own 18.

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The injuries Liverpool have had are a convenient issue for them to hide behind. The reality is that they have been regressing since the start of 2020 - in all area's, not just the back 4. I don't think many expected Thiago to downgrade their midfield and game plan as much as he has either, totally the wrong player for them.

Real Madrid didn't have their first choice defence last night, but Liverpool didn't really do anything against them. Looks to be a year without the 'famous European nights' at Anfield next year.

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26 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The injuries Liverpool have had are a convenient issue for them to hide behind. The reality is that they have been regressing since the start of 2020 - in all area's, not just the back 4. I don't think many expected Thiago to downgrade their midfield and game plan as much as he has either, totally the wrong player for them.

Real Madrid didn't have their first choice defence last night, but Liverpool didn't really do anything against them. Looks to be a year without the 'famous European nights' at Anfield next year.

Oh don’t already going on about the away goal. Fook me by the time it gets to the game they’ll be blaming no fans in the stadium for not going through bloody shysters 

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29 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

The injuries Liverpool have had are a convenient issue for them to hide behind. The reality is that they have been regressing since the start of 2020 - in all area's, not just the back 4. I don't think many expected Thiago to downgrade their midfield and game plan as much as he has either, totally the wrong player for them.

Real Madrid didn't have their first choice defence last night, but Liverpool didn't really do anything against them. Looks to be a year without the 'famous European nights' at Anfield next year.

To be fair, they are the only club in all of Europe to have injuries this season. And did you know they don't have any fans at their home games? That makes them much easier to play against, since all other clubs are still allowed fans (presumably, I haven't checked).

 

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Liverpool are very lucky to have come out of that game at 3-1 last night.

Had Asencio not fucked up numerous simple passes including a nailed on goal on the counter it would have been 4 at least.

Klopps has already said on SSN this morning the ref had a personal vendetta against Mane. Haha.
 

 

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5 hours ago, JustinSFC said:

Liverpool are very lucky to have come out of that game at 3-1 last night.

Had Asencio not fucked up numerous simple passes including a nailed on goal on the counter it would have been 4 at least.

Klopps has already said on SSN this morning the ref had a personal vendetta against Mane. Haha.
 

 

Some of our supporters think Mike Dean has a personal vendetta against us. 
 

When it comes to making excuses our supporters shouldn’t really be taking the piss out of Liverpool, we’re right up there with them this season. 

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On 07/04/2021 at 05:40, The Cat said:

Liverpool 2-0 down. A terrible mistake by golden boy Trent Alexander who really is the most overrated player by our media. 

What did they pay for him?  I’ll take KWP at 12 million every day of the week.

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6 minutes ago, austsaint said:

What did they pay for him?  I’ll take KWP at 12 million every day of the week.

Came through their academy did he? Massively over rated, I mean he’s by no means a bad player But the hype around his is ridiculous he’s probably about 5th choice for the right back spot for England. What’s interesting is despite scousers claiming to be scouse not English they seem awfully upset he didn’t get picked for England.

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8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Came through their academy did he? Massively over rated, I mean he’s by no means a bad player But the hype around his is ridiculous he’s probably about 5th choice for the right back spot for England. What’s interesting is despite scousers claiming to be scouse not English they seem awfully upset he didn’t get picked for England.

Can’t defend. Benefited from having VVD at CB allowing him to basically play as a right midfielder. 

Good going forward though. 
 

Ive never been impressed with him playing for England, seems to get found out too easily. 

that being said, if we play a back 3, he might be the best option. 

James and Walker are probably the best ‘all round’ RB’s and AWB is the best defensively. 
 

KWP has been fantastic for us, but he’s nowhere near the England squad at the minute. 

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3 minutes ago, SKD said:

Can’t defend. Benefited from having VVD at CB allowing him to basically play as a right midfielder. 

Good going forward though. 
 

Ive never been impressed with him playing for England, seems to get found out too easily. 

that being said, if we play a back 3, he might be the best option. 

James and Walker are probably the best ‘all round’ RB’s and AWB is the best defensively. 
 

KWP has been fantastic for us, but he’s nowhere near the England squad at the minute. 

Agree on KWP. I’d put Tripper ahead of Alexander as well, think he offers more all round. 

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14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Came through their academy did he? Massively over rated, I mean he’s by no means a bad player But the hype around his is ridiculous he’s probably about 5th choice for the right back spot for England. What’s interesting is despite scousers claiming to be scouse not English they seem awfully upset he didn’t get picked for England.

Ok, he’s a Pool product; effectively KWP is a Tottenham “junior”.  Roughly the same age.. one has been hyped out of sight .. the other is showing his class at little old Southampton flying under the radar after being ignored by the failed one, Mourinho.  Perhaps Southgate should be looking down south for his RB.

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