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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 24/10/2020 at 16:30, Jimmy_D said:

The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product.

Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment.

Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected.

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Exactly this. Eloquently argued.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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  On 24/10/2020 at 16:30, Jimmy_D said:

The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product.

Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment.

Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected.

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They aren't.

Sky and BT don't profit from the PPV games apart from advert break money which they'd get regardless of the cost of the game. The £15 from the PPV games goes to the Premier League to be split among clubs (minus TV production cost).

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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  On 25/10/2020 at 10:15, Matthew Le God said:

They aren't.

Sky and BT don't profit from the PPV games apart from advert breaks. The £15 from the PPV games goes to the Premier League to be split among clubs (minus TV production cost).

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Correct.

 

And a Sky source told The Mirror: 'Sky is not happy to be involved in showing the pay-per-view games. We never thought it was a good idea and nothing's changed since it started. 

'It is damaging the reputation of Sky Sports to be linked to this scheme – and that feeling is shared at BT. Everyone here would prefer for it to stop.' 

SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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  On 24/10/2020 at 16:30, Jimmy_D said:

The point is that teams that normally get shown on sky are paying far less to watch the same number of games for the exact same product.

Yes, it’s a replacement for games that wouldn’t normally be shown, but going to games to watch them literally isn’t an option at the moment.

Sky are taking advantage of a monopoly gifted to them by a global pandemic to charge far more than they would for any other game, prices comparable to going to the games themselves, and it fans of the less fashionable clubs that are being disproportionately affected.

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The price is hardly the same as going to the game itself. Sure, the experience isn't as good, but it's way cheaper. About half price even if you're the only viewer. £7.50 per head in my household.

For a family of four you're looking at £15 rather than around £150, depending on travel costs, higher food drink/costs etc

nta786

nta786

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  On 25/10/2020 at 10:38, Lord Duckhunter said:

Correct.

 

And a Sky source told The Mirror: 'Sky is not happy to be involved in showing the pay-per-view games. We never thought it was a good idea and nothing's changed since it started. 

'It is damaging the reputation of Sky Sports to be linked to this scheme – and that feeling is shared at BT. Everyone here would prefer for it to stop.' 

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I thought they [Sky and BT] were the ones getting pissed off that games were being given away for free because it reduced the value of the games they originally scheduled or something like that?

SNSUN

SNSUN

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  On 25/10/2020 at 18:26, OttawaSaint said:

My FPL is a mess this week. 24 pts so far. Bamford stranded on the bench. 

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I transferred him out this week! Ffs And Jota, who scored for Liverpool. Chilwell is my highest scoring player with six. Bad week. Unless Kane does something miraculous.

 

West Ham continue to surprise me this season. Their fixtures looked so tough but they’ve done very well so far. Whether they can be as good through the “easier” games remains to be seen.

nta786

nta786

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  On 25/10/2020 at 18:37, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fucking hell. Kieron Dyer is living up to his name, dire punditry. Wonder how he got the gig ? 

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It is black history month.

There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky.

 

Cartman

Cartman

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  On 25/10/2020 at 19:53, nta786 said:

It is black history month.

There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky.

 

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Oh FFS. Can we stop imitating the fücking americans. We are not the 51st state.

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rooney

rooney

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  On 25/10/2020 at 19:53, nta786 said:

It is black history month.

There was about 20 minutes dedicated to it before in the build up to our game vs Everton on sky.

 

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But before that there was 10 mins dedicated to Calvert- Lewin and we were the home team!

Turkish

Turkish

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Early days I know but you’d expect Wins for Brighton and spurs tonight which would mean the bottom 4 are already 5 points adrift of 16th. If their starts are anything to go by then it could be a long season for them. 
 

as for the top half the conspiracy theorist in me says that with all the premier league being interested in are viewing figures and profits with only one of last season top four currently in the top six will we start to see a few favourable decisions going in the big clubs favour over the coming weeks to help them back to their rightful place? After all it came from then chairman of the premier leagues mouth a few years ago that Man United not being in the champions league is bad for premier league business.

whelk

whelk

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what has happened to all the goals and crazy scores? Load of very dull games now.

Has anyone published any PPV ratings? Can’t believe neutrals are paying for these borefests. 
530pm on Monday is a weird time for a game yet now seems regular slot.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 26/10/2020 at 18:02, whelk said:

what has happened to all the goals and crazy scores? Load of very dull games now.

Has anyone published any PPV ratings? Can’t believe neutrals are paying for these borefests. 
530pm on Monday is a weird time for a game yet now seems regular slot.

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The PPV stats are prob rubbish. Apparently BT and Sky are against the idea of PPV, but I find that incredibly hard to believe seeing as it's their platforms showing it. If they were that against it then they could have just told the PL to stream it on their website behind a paywall.

Like you said, no neutral is going to pay 15 quid to watch Brighton v West Brom. Just like no one is going to pay 15 quid to watch Villa v Us.

whelk

whelk

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They should just allow Amazon to write the cheque and hoover up all the spare games. Not sure BT and Sky would go for it but if as unhappy as you report?

 

whelk

whelk

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Brilliant VAR again. Ignoring that thug Barnes elbow on Toby A. These cunts can’t run anything properly and just back their mates

Shroppie

Shroppie

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  On 26/10/2020 at 20:15, whelk said:

Brilliant VAR again. Ignoring that thug Barnes elbow on Toby A. These cunts can’t run anything properly and just back their mates

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The inconsistency is awful. Almost as bad as the Burnley Spurs game itself.

trousers

trousers

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I know I'm in deluded 'counting chickens' territory way before they've hatched, but has anyone seen a team so far this season that we shouldn't be confident about getting a positive result against?

Edit: cue Spurs goal 

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SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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  On 26/10/2020 at 18:38, S-Clarke said:

The PPV stats are prob rubbish. Apparently BT and Sky are against the idea of PPV, but I find that incredibly hard to believe seeing as it's their platforms showing it. If they were that against it then they could have just told the PL to stream it on their website behind a paywall.

Like you said, no neutral is going to pay 15 quid to watch Brighton v West Brom. Just like no one is going to pay 15 quid to watch Villa v Us.

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I’ve been a defender of PPV. But gees, if this Burnley v Spurs game had cost me £15, I’d be suing to get my cash back.

Would be interesting to know the take up rate - maybe 20,000 or so payers? Wild guess there...

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Burnley look absolutely dreadful. Their only tactic is to try and drag their opponents down to their level, and then hope for corners and crosses.

Teams like that haven't got any place in this league. Need shot of them.

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SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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The bottom four look truly ropey - disregarding the matches they’ve played against each other, their combined record against the other 16 teams is:

P 19 W 0 D 2 L 17 GD -29 

Points per game - 0.105

Maybe Derby’s all time low points record of 11 is under serious threat this season?

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igsey

igsey

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So the media already talking about how Spurs are challenging for the title this season - one point above us! Does that make us in the title race too? :) 

Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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  On 26/10/2020 at 22:15, SaintBobby said:

The bottom four look truly ropey - disregarding the matches they’ve played against each other, their combined record against the other 16 teams is:

P 19 W 0 D 2 L 17 GD -29 

Points per game - 0.105

Maybe Derby’s all time low points record of 11 is under serious threat this season?

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Strange to think that we're already nine points clear of the bottom three.

Didcot Saint

Didcot Saint

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  On 26/10/2020 at 21:58, S-Clarke said:

Burnley look absolutely dreadful. Their only tactic is to try and drag their opponents down to their level, and then hope for corners and crosses.

Teams like that haven't got any place in this league. Need shot of them.

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Absolutely bang on. They are the pub team of the Premier League 

trousers

trousers

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  On 27/10/2020 at 18:48, Lord Duckhunter said:

So that’s “the media” now is it, Saggy face. Every pundit I’ve heard or read has gone out of their way to state Spurs can’t win it, including Sky last night.

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MLG Mode

They *can" win it, but they probably won't 

 

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igsey

igsey

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  On 27/10/2020 at 18:48, Lord Duckhunter said:

So that’s “the media” now is it, Saggy face. Every pundit I’ve heard or read has gone out of their way to state Spurs can’t win it, including Sky last night.

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BBC were asking Kane after the Burnley game if this is their season, Kane said the cliché "take it one game at a time". So not just Saggy Chops.

mikec

mikec

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Interesting fact reported by the BBC from tonight's Arsenal Vs Dundalk match - 

"Dundalk made a bit of history as the first team in the 10 years of the Europa League not to commit a single foul in a game."

Must be quite a rare event.  Didn't help them much though - they still lost 3-0

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