Pilchards Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 It’s pretty clear that Ralph knows his first eleven. It’s also clear that we are not going to buy someone to walk straight into the team either as we don’t have that sort of money at the moment. which squad players do you think could improve us? I think Salisu for Stephens Forster for McCarthy. Boufal/Djenpo for Redmond Also I reckon whoever our new midfielder is going to be will take Romeu’s place when he’s up to scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 Forster for McCarthy? Have you dropped some acid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 30 August, 2020 Author Share Posted 30 August, 2020 2 hours ago, Crab Lungs said: Forster for McCarthy? Have you dropped some acid? If he’s sorted out his feet plus Ralph rates him as our number one then yes I think he can be our number one. IMHO McCarthy is not a great keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 Think it’s pretty obvious from yesterday’s warm up that our first eleven (maybe 13/14) is pretty good, after that not so much. We need a season with no injuries or suspensions as things stand 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 9 hours ago, Pilchards said: It’s pretty clear that Ralph knows his first eleven. It’s also clear that we are not going to buy someone to walk straight into the team either as we don’t have that sort of money at the moment. which squad players do you think could improve us? I think Salisu for Stephens Forster for McCarthy. Boufal/Djenpo for Redmond Also I reckon whoever our new midfielder is going to be will take Romeu’s place when he’s up to scratch. Aside from Crab Lungs already pulling you for Forster for McCarthy Salisu for Stephens - green horn Premier league newbie youngster who none of us have seen play v experienced premier league defender just coming into the prime age window for centre backs. Actually why not start the season with Vestergaard and Salisu for the first 5 games - most of the knockers on here will soon realise that the Jack and Jan combination is far better than they are given credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 2 hours ago, Pilchards said: If he’s sorted out his feet plus Ralph rates him as our number one then yes I think he can be our number one. IMHO McCarthy is not a great keeper. He's 32, not sure he'll improve on the basics like that. Have to join those disagreeing with you on this Pilchards. McCarthy may not be the ideal, but he's a few cuts above FF (imho of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 19 minutes ago, Badger said: He's 32, not sure he'll improve on the basics like that. Have to join those disagreeing with you on this Pilchards. McCarthy may not be the ideal, but he's a few cuts above FF (imho of course). Forster was the Number 1 sometime ago dont see why he cannot be Number 1 again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 Because the last time he was number one, it was a horror show, whereas McCarthy does very little wrong and is a much more competent shot stopper, and given our defensive frailties, we now need a good shot stopper. Fonte, Alderweireld, Wanyama and Schneiderlin aren't in the team to protect Forster anymore. A good half year at Celtic doesn't make him good enough for us either, Elyounoussi looks good up there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 47 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said: Aside from Crab Lungs already pulling you for Forster for McCarthy Salisu for Stephens - green horn Premier league newbie youngster who none of us have seen play v experienced premier league defender just coming into the prime age window for centre backs. Actually why not start the season with Vestergaard and Salisu for the first 5 games - most of the knockers on here will soon realise that the Jack and Jan combination is far better than they are given credit for. Apart from that Salisu is left side (left footed) so is more likely to replace or be backup for Bednarek/Vestegaard, although Bednarek is probably better on the right side. Unless Bednarek is off (which was a rumour a while back) think that Salisu will be backup. Also can't see Boufal as replacement for Redmond, backup at best when we are desparate. Djenepo not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Because the last time he was number one, it was a horror show, whereas McCarthy does very little wrong and is a much more competent shot stopper, and given our defensive frailties, we now need a good shot stopper. Fonte, Alderweireld, Wanyama and Schneiderlin aren't in the team to protect Forster anymore. A good half year at Celtic doesn't make him good enough for us either, Elyounoussi looks good up there too. Regardless of those being in front of him, it wasn't solely down to them that in Forster's first season Saints had the 2nd best defensive record in the league (only champions Chelsea did better conceding one less). You don't only concede 33 goals in a Premier League season with a shit keeper, so Forster was clearly doing something right back then. Edited 30 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 52 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Because the last time he was number one, it was a horror show, whereas McCarthy does very little wrong and is a much more competent shot stopper, and given our defensive frailties, we now need a good shot stopper. Fonte, Alderweireld, Wanyama and Schneiderlin aren't in the team to protect Forster anymore. A good half year at Celtic doesn't make him good enough for us either, Elyounoussi looks good up there too. Unless against Arsenal or W. Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 1 hour ago, John B said: Forster was the Number 1 sometime ago dont see why he cannot be Number 1 again So was John Burridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 5 minutes ago, waylander said: Unless against Arsenal or W. Ham All goalkeepers make mistakes. Ederson probably made more than McCarthy last season. McCarthy is definitely our best all round keeper (his kicking lets him down, that's about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said: All goalkeepers make mistakes. Ederson probably made more than McCarthy last season. McCarthy is definitely our best all round keeper (his kicking lets him down, that's about it) ederson most definitely did not make more mistakes leading to goals than mccarthy. and definitely not the sort of mistakes mccarthy is prone to making, im guessing you missed the arsenal game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said: All goalkeepers make mistakes. Ederson probably made more than McCarthy last season. McCarthy is definitely our best all round keeper (his kicking lets him down, that's about it) 25 minutes ago, Maya's Dad said: ederson most definitely did not make more mistakes leading to goals than mccarthy. and definitely not the sort of mistakes mccarthy is prone to making, im guessing you missed the arsenal game This was posted on here a while back. https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/error_lead_to_goal I expect Ederson's cock ups were shown more widely in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: All goalkeepers make mistakes. Ederson probably made more than McCarthy last season. McCarthy is definitely our best all round keeper (his kicking lets him down, that's about it) His kicking is far better than Forster's though, FF has difficulty keeping his kicks inside the confines of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 57 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: His kicking is far better than Forster's though, FF has difficulty keeping his kicks inside the confines of the pitch. So does McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 (edited) If we sign Ajer then I think once he and Salisu are settled and up to speed, etc. I think our first team line-up is likely to be: McCarthy KWP Salisu Bednarek Bertrand JWP Ajer Armstrong Redmond Adams Ings I think our bench will include Romeu, Stephens, Smallbone, Djenepo and Long. As to reserve keeper I have no guess as to whether that will be Forster or Gunn. The seventh sub will vary depending on the match, player fitness, form and desire to give younger players experience/motivation. Depending on who we sell, loan and retain, it will be out of Vokins, Valery, Boufal, Vestergaard, Obafemi, Slattery, McQueen (when fit) and any of the younger academy players, especially Jankewitz, Tella or N'lundulu. Presumably Sims, Jones, O'Connor and Lewis might also be possibles for the bench if they do not go out on loan or get sold. Edited 30 August, 2020 by SaintJackoInHurworth HTML displaying as code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 Not sure if we’d get away with that sort of formation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 5 hours ago, VectisSaint said: His kicking is far better than Forster's though, FF has difficulty keeping his kicks inside the confines of the pitch. both are woeful kickers. Both make me nervous. McCarthy makes one or two outstanding saves. Forster doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: Not sure if we’d get away with that sort of formation.... it worked for us in the last 7 games of the season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 August, 2020 Share Posted 30 August, 2020 1 minute ago, Nolan said: it worked for us in the last 7 games of the season, Joke is lost. When it appeared on my screen it appeared as a long long list of html code, not the text as now. It was a crap gag to begin with but I’ll get my coat anyway. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 Like many of you, I think we'll start with the same side that finished last season. The likes of Djenepo, Boufal, SallySue, Forster, Smallbone. Long and a plus one will likely be on the bench, waiting for their chance to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 57 minutes ago, adriansfc said: McCarthy is poor, but how would Forster sort out an issue he's had his whole career? He's just incredibly slow footed. It was there for all to see on his debut. He makes himself big, but his feet hold him back all the time. It's certainly not going to get better with age. I'd hoped we'd get someone better in but looks like it'll have to be next summer. McCarthy will cost us a few goals with his distribution and weird positioning, but he'll have some decent games and isn't a total disaster. Only positions up for grabs are centre back and CM. Salisu will come in at some point, and a new midfielder you'd imagine. But I doubt they have any issue starting with Romeu and JWP. Window is open ages yet. I do not agree that McCarthy is poor. Granted he is no Bufon or Nuer but the standard of English keepers is arguably lower than its been for a very long time. I would suggest this has been the downside of attracting the best players in the world to the PL as (obviously) you only play one GK each game so fewer chances and therefore in time our GKs are pushed down the league and down the leagues to get games or sit on the bench! Overall I think we have 3 fairly decent GKs and the fact they are English is a bonus. We could do better but very unlikely we will. We definitely need a defensive minded CM, in my opinion one of 20-30m type standard who goes straight into the team. Romeu is good but not getting younger and JWP is more forward thinking and not the holding type we need there. I cant say I know who! CB looks better with Salisu and if RH can get Vestergaard to play well we will have some decent strength there. I'd like a new winger/attacker type to replace Boufal. As much as I like him I dont think he's best suited to our style. Someone young but ready for 15 to 20 games and someone who can put Redmond under pressure. Overall I feel quite optimistic for the first time in 3 seasons!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 58 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: I'd like a new winger/attacker type to replace Boufal. As much as I like him I dont think he's best suited to our style. Someone young but ready for 15 to 20 games and someone who can put Redmond under pressure. Overall I feel quite optimistic for the first time in 3 seasons!! Djenpo ? Yes it's a strange sense of optimism that we're not used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 On 30/08/2020 at 02:24, Pilchards said: It’s pretty clear that Ralph knows his first eleven. It’s also clear that we are not going to buy someone to walk straight into the team either as we don’t have that sort of money at the moment. which squad players do you think could improve us? I think Salisu for Stephens Forster for McCarthy. Boufal/Djenpo for Redmond Also I reckon whoever our new midfielder is going to be will take Romeu’s place when he’s up to scratch. IMHO No. No. No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 26 minutes ago, Badger said: Djenpo ? Yes it's a strange sense of optimism that we're not used to. Oh yeah!!!! Forgot about him temporarily...perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 (edited) Boufal for Redmond? What games has Pilchards been watching? Must be completely different ones to the rest of the world. Edited 4 September, 2020 by The Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 4 September, 2020 Share Posted 4 September, 2020 4 hours ago, MarkSFC said: I do not agree that McCarthy is poor. Granted he is no Bufon or Nuer but the standard of English keepers is arguably lower than its been for a very long time. I would suggest this has been the downside of attracting the best players in the world to the PL as (obviously) you only play one GK each game so fewer chances and therefore in time our GKs are pushed down the league and down the leagues to get games or sit on the bench! Overall I think we have 3 fairly decent GKs and the fact they are English is a bonus. We could do better but very unlikely we will. We definitely need a defensive minded CM, in my opinion one of 20-30m type standard who goes straight into the team. Romeu is good but not getting younger and JWP is more forward thinking and not the holding type we need there. I cant say I know who! CB looks better with Salisu and if RH can get Vestergaard to play well we will have some decent strength there. I'd like a new winger/attacker type to replace Boufal. As much as I like him I dont think he's best suited to our style. Someone young but ready for 15 to 20 games and someone who can put Redmond under pressure. Overall I feel quite optimistic for the first time in 3 seasons!! I agree that we need a CM, but you're deluded if you think we have that amount of money to spend on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 6 September, 2020 Author Share Posted 6 September, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 18:50, The Cat said: Boufal for Redmond? What games has Pilchards been watching? Must be completely different ones to the rest of the world. I think Redmond blows to hot and cold for my liking but the problem is Boufal is even more frustrating to watch. I'm hoping Djenpo can step it up as IMHO that position is up for grabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 Redmond is one of the first names on our team sheet, IMO Pilchards. Whilst he can be guilty of sometimes going backwards, or running into blind ally's, he is absolutely perfect for a counter pressing style due to his acceleration and appetite to win the ball. When he's 'on it', we often win pretty comfortably. Boufal is a completely different type of player and wouldn't offer us anywhere near the same threat and ability to stretch teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 September, 2020 Share Posted 6 September, 2020 To the poster above and anyone else who thinks we have even the slightest chance of signing Ajer - we don't, and we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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