igsey Posted 1 October, 2020 Share Posted 1 October, 2020 JWP and Ings both in the squad again for the next international break. England play Wales in a friendly on 8 October, before Nations League fixtures against Belgium and Denmark on 11 and 14 October respectively, with all three games being played at Wembley Stadium. Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford (Everton), Nick Pope (Burnley), Dean Henderson (Manchester United) Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Ben Chilwell (Chelsea), Conor Coady (Wolves), Eric Dier (Tottenham), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Michael Keane (Everton), Harry Maguire (Manchester United), Ainsley Maitland-Niles (Arsenal), Tyrone Mings (Aston Villa), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Kieran Trippier (Atletico Madrid), Kyle Walker (Manchester City) Midfielders: Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Jack Grealish (Aston Villa), Mason Mount (Chelsea), Kalvin Phillips (Leeds), Declan Rice (West Ham), James Ward-Prowse (Southampton), Harry Winks (Tottenham) Forwards: Tammy Abraham (Chelsea), Harvey Barnes (Leicester), Dominic Calvert-Lewin (Everton), Danny Ings (Southampton), Harry Kane (Tottenham), Marcus Rashford (Manchester United), Jadon Sancho (Borussia Dortmund), Raheem Sterling (Manchester City) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 1 October, 2020 Share Posted 1 October, 2020 Why is there a friendly, given the already congested fixture list? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 October, 2020 Share Posted 1 October, 2020 Assume that 30 man squad will have to be whittled down to 20-something after the friendly and before the Nations League fixtures? Would imagine it being touch and go for JWP to make the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Fan Dan Posted 1 October, 2020 Share Posted 1 October, 2020 Maybe Ings will actually get a game this time. It's a seriously weak midfield there. Mount is really nothing special, nor is Winks. Grealish is a complete tool who everyone seems to think is the answer to England's problems, yet James Maddison gets left out. Forget Foden and Greenwood doing whatever they did in Iceland and just bring them back in, nobody cares. Tammy Abraham has done nothing for ages and Rashford has always been inconsistent for Man United. Other than that really good 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roo1976 Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 Neither will play any significant part ,hope im wrong but Calvert lewis is now ahead of Ings and Grealish and Barkley look like they will form 2 in midfield, no need for 2 holding midfielders in Rice and Dier one or the other along with maybe Mount or Maddison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 7 October, 2020 Share Posted 7 October, 2020 Luckily we didn't have anyone involved in the U21s...awful result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 16 hours ago, Roo1976 said: no need for 2 holding midfielders in Rice and Dier one or the other along with maybe Mount or Maddison. Didn't stop Gareth last time! Expecting a fairly progressive team for the Wales game and then revert to a back 8 with Sterling, Kane and Sancho in the NL games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Doubt Ings and JWP will get much game time here. If the former couldn't get there when he was the highest English scorer in the league, no reason to think he will now. Southgate will go with Calvert-Lewin as flavour of the month and Kane. JWP won't get in ahead of Henderson, Grealish, Rice or Mount/Winks even though that last pair are no great shakes. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 As tonight is a friendly I don't think there is any limit on the number of substitutes we can use? On that basis quite possible both Ings and Ward-Prowse will get some minutes and add to their tally of England caps. At least they are both off the one cap wonder list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 20 minutes ago, JRM said: As tonight is a friendly I don't think there is any limit on the number of substitutes we can use? On that basis quite possible both Ings and Ward-Prowse will get some minutes and add to their tally of England caps. At least they are both off the one cap wonder list. I believe for International friendlies there was a limit of 6 due implemented some time ago. This came about after Sven Goran Erikson pushed the boundary by subbing 11 players for England v Australia (don't think it helped much as I think we lost) "Honest" Sepp Blatter got the arse at this and as Sven had been slowly creeping up the changes in friendlies, a whole team rotation was seen to be damaging to the product, I think Fifa get a cut of the gate revenue and England games did become farcical as the second half wore on while Sven was tinkering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 2 hours ago, DT said: Doubt Ings and JWP will get much game time here. If the former couldn't get there when he was the highest English scorer in the league, no reason to think he will now. Southgate will go with Calvert-Lewin as flavour of the month and Kane. JWP won't get in ahead of Henderson, Grealish, Rice or Mount/Winks even though that last pair are no great shakes. IMHO I doubt England will play many regulars tonight as its a friendly and 3 games in 7 days, so think every chance that both Ings and JWP will get significant game time tonight, with regulars returning for Belgium game on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8819343/Jack-Grealish-set-START-England-Dominic-Calvert-Lewin-Danny-Ings-new-look-attack.html Looks like he'll be starting alongside Grealish and DCL...will be nice to see some players who are actually in form, rather than Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8819343/Jack-Grealish-set-START-England-Dominic-Calvert-Lewin-Danny-Ings-new-look-attack.html Looks like he'll be starting alongside Grealish and DCL...will be nice to see some players who are actually in form, rather than Kane. Kane has 6 assists and 3 goals in 4 premier league games. This increases to 8 goals in 8 games when all his games are considered this season. Edited 8 October, 2020 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 (edited) Ings starting. JWP on bench. Edited 8 October, 2020 by maysie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Good pass from Ings to set Calvert Lewin up, who bottles the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Ings link up is brilliant but Skate Matterface just wanking over Calvert Lewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 (edited) Bit of a mixed bag first half for Ings. Apart from his splendid through ball to CL he's been chasing shadows somewhat and playing a few loose balls. Tenacious as ever though. Not helped by another static England midfield either. Edited 8 October, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Nice seeing him close down the keeper, even if it came to nothing. Keeps them nervy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Great finish from Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Yes Danny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 What a goal take a bow. Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Get in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Just now, John Boy Saint said: What a goal take a bow. Son Damn right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Brilliant from Ings. An overhead kick into goal from a few yards out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Wheb was the last overhead kick for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Yes Danny!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Cracking effort that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Ingsy get in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Sweet. He’s had a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Was Rickie the last Saint to score an England goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Jwp on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Prowsey on now too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 👍 I'm a happy man. Not quite Rickie "first touch" Lambert, but class. Saints class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, steve green said: 👍 I'm a happy man. Not quite Rickie "first touch" Lambert, but class. Saints class. With the exception of Trippier V Croatia, that's the most mental I've gone at an England goal. I miss that man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 13 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: With the exception of Trippier V Croatia, that's the most mental I've gone at an England goal. I miss that man. Brilliant moment was Lambert’s goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: With the exception of Trippier V Croatia, that's the most mental I've gone at an England goal. I miss that man. Always said those who said RL lacked pace should watch his celebration run after scoring against Scotland, he out paced a desperate Oxlade Chamberlain led group of players chasing him by miles 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Jack Grealish is such a good player. Should be one of the first names on the team sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Very good performance from Danny Ings topped off with a great goal. Also a decent cameo from JWP who was very neat and tidy and played some good crisp passes to get England on the attack. Excellent night for our two lads. Some real dross in this England squad though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 12 hours ago, DT said: Doubt Ings and JWP will get much game time here. If the former couldn't get there when he was the highest English scorer in the league, no reason to think he will now. Southgate will go with Calvert-Lewin as flavour of the month and Kane. JWP won't get in ahead of Henderson, Grealish, Rice or Mount/Winks even though that last pair are no great shakes. IMHO Shows what I bloody know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 8 October, 2020 Share Posted 8 October, 2020 Great showing by Ings capped off by a fantastic goal. Really nice showing by JWP off the bench too. Obviously it wouldn't have been playing for us, but you have to wonder how good Ings would have been without the injuries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) Kane looked to be back to his best against Man U last week, but it seems Gareth Southgate has now got a number of options up front in Sterling, Calvert-Lewin, our own Danny Ings, Grealish (he still falls over too much for my liking), Rashford and Greenwood. It's been mentioned above, but I thought JWP looked very assured when he came on - nice shot at the end too. Well played by the Saints lads, they did us proud. I think Coady looks a better option than Harry McGuire at the back at the moment. McGuire looks to be worth considerably less than the £80m United spent on him based on his season so far. And with Chilwell out, it would have been nice for Bertie to get a call up, but he doesn't seem to be on Southgate's radar at all. (Great pictue of Danny Ings above by the way - thanks for posting that.trousers). Only one other point - does anyone else think Ben Davies (Wales) is morphing into Tony Adams. He's the spitting image of a younger version. Edited 9 October, 2020 by Saint Keef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saint Keef said: it would have been nice for Bertie to get a call up, but he doesn't seem to be on Southgate's radar at all. Wrong side of 30 and England will never pick older fringe players even if on form so will never be back in there I'm guessing. Edited 9 October, 2020 by skintsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Despite all the criticism he gets, the £20m obligation to buy loan deal for Ings was a masterstroke from Reed, even if it didn’t seem so at the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 9 hours ago, Turkish said: Jack Grealish is such a good player. Should be one of the first names on the team sheet. He was class last night and his performance stood out. Well done to Ingsy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Ings played well , took his goal well, pleased for him to get that recognition and can see he was buzzing, commentators trying to make it all about Calvert Lewin and Grealish though. Ward-Prowse looked steady when he came on and nearly got a goal, 4 full England caps for him now, a proper international player. With two more games this week and three more in November it provides a good chance to add to that tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Ings has a got a lot competition, that goal will have done him a world of good, especially as I'd imagine he was probably a bit frustrated first half playing from the right rather than through the middle but he still worked very hard and showed some nice touches. Looked a lot better through the middle though. He'll struggle to dislodge Kane though who is looking to be back to his best and you'd probably think the athleticism of Calvert-Lewin might put him in prime position to be his back up, with Sancho and Sterling playing off him. But JWP has good chance I think of establishing himself in that midfield because I think the competition there is not great. Winks didn't look much cop and Phillips looks similar to Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 2 hours ago, HarvSFC said: Despite all the criticism he gets, the £20m obligation to buy loan deal for Ings was a masterstroke from Reed, even if it didn’t seem so at the time. Apparently Ings has dedicated the goal to Les, to thank him for the faith he showed in him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 6 hours ago, Saint Keef said: Kane looked to be back to his best against Man U last week, but it seems Gareth Southgate has now got a number of options up front in Sterling, Calvert-Lewin, our own Danny Ings, Grealish (he still falls over too much for my liking), Rashford and Greenwood. He spends a lot of his time looking for fouls. He hangs onto the ball too long when a pass would keep our game moving in the hope of drawing in an opponent and then puts himself in a position where he’s going to get fouled. A great cross for our first goal though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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