Saints in the England Squad

[skintsaint]

53 minutes ago, egg said:

Other than Bertrand, who was available? 

Luke Shaw? Still a better option than a RB at LB. Had a decent end to the season by all accounts.

[saintquin]

9 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Luke Shaw? Still a better option than a RB at LB. Had a decent end to the season by all accounts.

and injured!

[Micky]

Just seen that Roy Keane accused JWP of cheating after the penalty incident.   Roy Keane..... cheating...... ffs

[Saint Keef]

3 hours ago, Micky said:

Just seen that Roy Keane accused JWP of cheating after the penalty incident.   Roy Keane..... cheating...... ffs

Saint Roy. The Patron Saint of Fair Play........ Poacher turned gamekeeper. He does spout some nonsense. Mainly controversial and mainly nonsense. 

[SaintBobby]

Is it even cheating to scuff the penalty spot?

[cloggy saint]

55 minutes ago, SaintBobby said:

Is it even cheating to scuff the penalty spot?

It's not really in the spirit of the game is it?

[East Kent Saint]

JWP claims he was just delaying the taking of the penalty , not cheating at all !!!

[skintsaint]

1 hour ago, cloggy saint said:

It's not really in the spirit of the game is it?

Neither is rolling around like a tart holding your shin even though Walker at best touched the Iceland geezers foot with his trailing leg. Its what modern footie is about now.

[trousers]

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/18702808.danny-ings-expected-fit-englands-trip-denmark-despite-reportedly-suffering-head-injury-training/

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Danny Ings expected to be fit for England's trip to Denmark despite reportedly suffering head injury in training

 

[Turkish]

Greenwood and Foden sent home for breaking rules, bringing girls back. What a pair of twats, make your England debut then get kicked out the squad a couple of days later for being stupid.

[Disco Stu]

This doesn't mean other England players must quarantine again does it?

[Appy]

11 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

This doesn't mean other England players must quarantine again does it?

No 

[The Cat]

22 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Greenwood and Foden sent home for breaking rules, bringing girls back. What a pair of twats, make your England debut then get kicked out the squad a couple of days later for being stupid.

Might not have any effect on their future selection seeing as Walker still got picked after he had those escorts over in peak Covid times. 

[edprice1984]

Does mean Ings has a decent shout for more game time though - two less forward players to choose from and one would have expected Greenwood to get more minutes.

Standard young footballer behaviour unfortunately! (Although I have heard the Icelandic girls can be a bit kinky!)

[Ted Bates Statue]

15 hours ago, Saint Keef said:

Saint Roy. The Patron Saint of Fair Play........ Poacher turned gamekeeper. He does spout some nonsense. Mainly controversial and mainly nonsense. 

Couldn't cut it as a manager so he has to resort to being a professional shit talker to pass the time. Entertaining but low effort from one of the giants of the prem. He strikes me as the sort of person who has to restrain himself from punching his own face when he sees his reflection in the mirror. 

[John Boy Saint]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Greenwood and Foden sent home for breaking rules, bringing girls back. What a pair of twats, make your England debut then get kicked out the squad a couple of days later for being stupid.

Quite a cunning plan by the parent clubs - "just play one game if you must", "but do whatever you can to miss the midweek game" . 

[S-Clarke]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Greenwood and Foden sent home for breaking rules, bringing girls back. What a pair of twats, make your England debut then get kicked out the squad a couple of days later for being stupid.

Foden is a proper chav, so it doesn't surprise me. Talented, yes, but the mentality of a moron. He'll struggle to fulfil his potential due to his seemingly dumbarse chavy ways.

[JRM]

How many of the current saints squad have played for England whilst at the club? I think,

McCarthy

Forster

Bertrand 

Ward-Prowse 

Redmond 

Ings 

Plus u21 Gunn and Stephens 

Not bad going really. 

[Saint Mikey]

5 hours ago, JRM said:

How many of the current saints squad have played for England whilst at the club? I think,

McCarthy

Forster

Bertrand 

Ward-Prowse 

Redmond 

Ings 

Plus u21 Gunn and Stephens 

Not bad going really. 

It is decent for a club of our size, but it's also a reflection of the quality of the England squad in the last 3-5 years. How many of these players would have got a game for Germany, Spain or France in that time-frame?

[Matthew Le God]

34 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

It is decent for a club of our size, but it's also a reflection of the quality of the England squad in the last 3-5 years. How many of these players would have got a game for Germany, Spain or France in that time-frame?

England made the World Cup semi final in their last tournament 😉

[John Boy Saint]

41 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

It is decent for a club of our size, but it's also a reflection of the quality of the England squad in the last 3-5 years. How many of these players would have got a game for Germany, Spain or France in that time-frame?

None of them!

 

........Because they are English!!😳

 

I’ll just get my coat

[S-Clarke]

No JWP tonight, he's on the bench. Slightly different formation, but Kalvin Phillips takes his direct place.

[northam soul]

If Chelsea pay 80 million for Declan Rice then the world has truly gone mad.

 

[John Boy Saint]

17 minutes ago, northam soul said:

If Chelsea pay 80 million for Declan Rice then the world has truly gone mad.

 

I couldn't believe most papers gave him a 7 on Saturday - just like tonight (aside from his fluff in front of goal sat) he has looked invisible. Kane looks a right steaming pile too. 

[trousers]

ZZZZZzzzzzz

[beatlesaint]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

ZZZZZzzzzzz

Well done for sticking with it.

[SNSUN]

Get flucking  Ings on! This is shite. I’ve never really rated Southgate and I still don’t

[trousers]

How on Earth does the squad's leading domestic goalscorer not get onto the pitch in a game like this...? #ings

Edited 8 September, 2020 by trousers

[Wiggles31]

What a joke. Ings given no real chance, Henderson or Pope given no chance, Grealish given no chance. What is the point in friendlies?!

Not a fan of Southgate. More personality in a plank of wood than him. Don’t get me started on Rice and Dier. Two hugely overrated players. 

[John Boy Saint]

Cricket wasn’t much better.

At least our boys ain’t going to be knackered for Saturday.

[northam soul]

How is Ings face after that training collision 

[beatlesaint]

So in two matches Ings gets barely 25 mins while Citizen Kane plays almost two full games. If he doesn’t know what he can do now he never will. 
 

Complete waste of time. Might as well of stayed at Staplewood.

Southgate will have learned nothing from these games.

Edited 8 September, 2020 by beatlesaint

[John Boy Saint]

4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Complete waste of time. Might as well of stayed at Staplewood.

Should have gone out on the pull with Foden and Greenwood 

[CB Fry]

7 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

So in two matches Ings gets barely 25 mins while Citizen Kane plays almost two full games. If he doesn’t know what he can do now he never will. 
 

Complete waste of time. Might as well of stayed at Staplewood.

Southgate will have learned nothing from these games.

In fairness they weren’t friendlies to "learn from". 

Over the two games Danny Ings played about as much as I'd expected and JWP probably about 80 minutes more than I expected.

Ings was nothing more than a form-based call up that Southgate had to make. But in reality Ings has no England future, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

[CB Fry]

17 minutes ago, Wiggles31 said:

What a joke. Ings given no real chance, Henderson or Pope given no chance, Grealish given no chance. What is the point in friendlies?!

There is some point to friendlies but these weren't friendlies. Ooh, I've come over all MLG.

[S-Clarke]

Well, that was suitably dreadful.

[HarvSFC]

Hojbjerg doesn't even start for Denmark. 🤷‍♂️

[HarvSFC]

But, yeah, if you can't work out a system that gets the attacking talents of Sterling, Kane and Sancho (this is a top quality, dare I say close to world class front three) firing, then there definitely should be questions asked of the manager. Southgate is still living off the World Cup, which was fantastic on the face of it, but we did have a very favourable draw and there were clear mistakes made in the losses against Belgium and Croatia back then.

[suewhistle]

I've only read a minute by minute report in a newspaper, but surely JWP and Ings must be pleased they weren't part of that? Glad I didn't make the effort to watch.

[qwertyell]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

 

Southgate will have learned nothing from these games.

Same as every other match in the fraud of a managerial career he's failed upwards into.

Honestly, there's nobody that's ever watched a game of football that didn't know a back five and two holding midfielders would severely hamper any progressive forward play.

If he's going to play seven defensive players against Denmark, how are they going to line up against a good side?

[Teddeer]

Southgate has always been a bottler who is more afraid of losing than trying to win. 

[david in sweden]

As Sue Whistler noted ....a good game NOT to be involved in.  

Southgate giving out England caps to every young starlet in the Prem. as a belated reward for last season and then playing them all out of position,

but it will increase their eventual transfer fees when clubs sell them on as " an English international ".

Am still amazed that Roy Keane has the gall to call JWP .....a cheat !     Has he broken all the mirrors in his home ?

The NON selection of Danny Ings v. Denmark prompted Darren Bent to write  (in amazement) that Danny only got 22 minutes play over the 2 games 

that's one minute for each Prem.goal he scored last season.    It's phenomenal Danny scored so many from open play DESPITE not playing for a top 5  club.

[VectisSaint]

20 hours ago, suewhistle said:

I've only read a minute by minute report in a newspaper, but surely JWP and Ings must be pleased they weren't part of that? Glad I didn't make the effort to watch.

Was Ings not used because of what happened in training? Tripper was showing the effects of their coming together, hopefully Danny didn't come off worse. Assume JWP didn't play because Roy Keane suspended him for cheating. The irony of Keane calling out a cheat. 

[suewhistle]

My recollection of Keane is just being a violent thug. Would that be a fair view?

[Turkish]

29 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

My recollection of Keane is just being a violent thug. Would that be a fair view?

No. He was a brilliant player and leader. He single handly turned around United 1999 champions league semi final against Juventus in the second leg, a real captains performance, even though he got booked and would miss the final. He didnt take any sh!t in the dressing room and was a top class captain with a relentless winning streak. Granted a few times he over stepped the mark so if you want to put that down to being a violent thug crack on, personally i think every club needs a leader like him.

[Mosin]

he was a violent thug who got off extremly lightly for going out of his way to break another players leg, ending his career...

 

Edited 10 September, 2020 by Mosin
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[Saint Keef]

....and he's having a go at JWP for rubbing his boot across a penalty spot........OK Roy.....whatever.

[suewhistle]

Thanks, I couldn't remember the details..

[alehouseboys]

20 hours ago, Mosin said:

he was a violent thug who got off extremly lightly for going out of his way to break another players leg, ending his career...

 

Most fans wanted a player like Keane in their side...but if he wasn’t, he was an obnoxious dirty ••••

[John Boy Saint]

I was pretty certain that in moving JWP away, the ref does actually look down at the spot, if he sees it looks like a ploughed field he is going to say something. It’s not like anyone has seen any super slo-mo closeup, like you get in golf coverage, evidence that has actually shown his boots in JCB setting - obviously in loitering on and around the spot moving his foot about just over the grass he’s not only fooled the taker but gobshoite Keane too - JWP isn’t stupid by any stretch of the imagination he isn’t going to do something stupid to queer his chances of playing for England.

Most of us have crept up behind a mate, stood behind them to the left and tapped them on the right shoulder and them turn to find no one there.........or is that sort of thing frowned on these days due to the potential psychological trauma it might inflict on the victim of the jape?
 

Anyway JWP should have taken a shovel to the spot because once Rice gets his £80m move to Chelsea he ain’t going to get a look in.🤪