Paulwantsapint81 Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 With Southgate announcing his latest England squad does anyone expect any Saints call ups Danny Ings has been in form of his life but will age & previous injuries count against him? JWP is this his chance to become a regular squad member or will media want someone else ? Ryan Bertrand can he regain his place? Nathan Redmond ? Jack Stephens has been mentioned before KWP ?
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Ings and jwp should be called up. The rest won't get in.
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 I'm hoping no-one is, otherwise they'll be playing in the nation's league 4 days before our first match.
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Ings should be in but then again England for some reason don't pick on form. Don't expect anyone else.
qwertyell Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Ings and Prowse have a chance. A lack of left back options, with Chillwell injured and Danny Rose barely being a footballer anymore, could give Bertrand another nod to make up the numbers.
Barsiem Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 WP has the best shout I reckon. We're not that strong in centre mid and his workrate, versatility and setpieces bring something different. Plus we know Southgate rates him. Ings may well make it but will be hard pushed to stay in with the attacking options we have at the mo. Greenwoods emergence will only make it harder for him as well
Harry_SFC Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 It would be great if JWP was called up. With games being played a few days before the first game of the season, I'd rather no one else was..
saintquin Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Maybe if they moved to a "top 6" club quickly! 😏
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 If Ings doesn't get a call up, then there is absolutely no point.
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Barsiem said: Greenwoods emergence will only make it harder for him as well Should spend a couple of years in the U21s at least. England's issue is fast tracking too many young players through to the senior team and then wonder why they bottle it at Finals.
Saint Garrett Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Expecting Ings and JWP to be called up, and possibly Bertrand given he's been decent, and Shaw and Chilwell are both injured. Also expecting quite a few playes from the big clubs to get picked and then pull out due to "injury".
norwaysaint Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 There are lots of possibilities, so perhaps those two, but not wildly surprising if neither. 1
Baird of the land Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 I'd be disappointed if Ings and JWP don't get called up. Can't see any of the others at the moment. Think ship has sailed on Bertrand's international career in Southgate's eyes.
jamesfp1 Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Gutted for Bertrand who won't ever play under Southgate. There's not even a left back in the squad.
trousers Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said: Gutted for Bertrand who won't ever play under Southgate. There's not even a left back in the squad. Was just about to post this. I can only guess that Bertrand's age has counted against him. He must be gutted not to make the squad though, especially given Southgate hasn't picked an orthodox left back. Edited 25 August, 2020 by trousers
LGTL Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Grealish can feel hard done by to be fair. No LB in the squad is a bit weird.
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 10 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said: Gutted for Bertrand who won't ever play under Southgate. There's not even a left back in the squad. Oh yeah, how weird! Is Southgate going to revert back to a back three? 3-1-3-3 like Leeds?
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Our two most important players missing almost all of our preseason now and only joining up with the squad 3 days before the season starts. Fantastic.
igsey Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Delighted for JWP and Ings, good inclusions in an overall questionable squad. No left backs, three right backs, no Grealish, some awful CB choices, and Harry f-ing Winks.
BallBoy Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Interesting that Ings and Ward-Prowse barely get a mention in media comments. I like to think that is because it is no surprise that they are in the squad. They are both there on merit.
Badger Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 41 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Our two most important players missing almost all of our preseason now and only joining up with the squad 3 days before the season starts. Fantastic. One to get injured, the other to have 'his head turned'.
Lighthouse Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 1 minute ago, Badger said: One to get injured, the other to have 'his head turned'. I never bought that ‘head turned’ argument in 2014. I’m pretty sure you don’t need a month in a shower with Jordan Henderson to convince you to move to Liverpool.
steve green Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 32 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I never bought that ‘head turned’ argument in 2014. I’m pretty sure you don’t need a month in a shower with Jordan Henderson to convince you to move to Liverpool. Or maybe that was the threat if they didn't move? 1
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 (edited) Good to see JWP and Ings in there, no brainer on either really. Southgate knows JWP really well, he was his captain for the U21's, so I reckon he has a chance to nail down a place. Winks/Rice/Phillips - pretty much the same player, just different names. Mount and Foden forward thinking attacking midfielders, but JWP can play that deeper playmaker role without a problem. Obviously a bit of club bias from me there, but even Spurs fans don't particularly rate Winks. Edited 25 August, 2020 by S-Clarke
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: I never bought that ‘head turned’ argument in 2014. I’m pretty sure you don’t need a month in a shower with Jordan Henderson to convince you to move to Liverpool. Given the way Lallana reacted at having to leave "Hendo", I'd say a month with him in the shower is exactly what convinced him to go to Liverpool...
Saint_clark Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Good to see JWP and Ings in there, no brainer on either really. Southgate knows JWP really well, he was his captain for the U21's, so I reckon he has a chance to nail down a place. Winks/Rice/Phillips - pretty much the same player, just different names. Mount and Foden forward thinking attacking midfielders, but JWP can play that deeper playmaker role without a problem. Obviously a bit of club bias from me there, but even Spurs fans don't particularly rate Winks. I believe Rice had more tackles than anyone else in the league or something, so there may well be something there in him being a decent defensive mid for England.
trousers Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Harry Maguire found guilty, so he's out. Outside chance of a Jack Stephens call up....? Edited 25 August, 2020 by trousers 1
simo Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Makes me laugh how villa fans (and sime pundits) are crying about Jwp being in the squad over Grealish, Do they even watch football ? Totally different players and I for 1 wouldn't swap the pair !
simo Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 (edited) Double post Edited 25 August, 2020 by simo
davefizzy14 Posted 25 August, 2020 Posted 25 August, 2020 Well deserved call ups for both Prowsey and Ingsy strange that theres no senior left back in the squad - cant understand how Ryan werent called up, he certainly deserved it. With Maguire's omission hopefully fingers crossed Jack gets a call up too
Noodles34 Posted 26 August, 2020 Posted 26 August, 2020 How is Grealish not in the squad. ? reminds me of Le Tiss treatment
Saint Garrett Posted 26 August, 2020 Posted 26 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Noodles34 said: How is Grealish not in the squad. ? reminds me of Le Tiss treatment I just don't think he's that great, plus Southgate clearly wants pace in those positions, and therefore prefers Rashford, Sancho, Sterling, Greenwood.
hypochondriac Posted 26 August, 2020 Posted 26 August, 2020 9 hours ago, Noodles34 said: How is Grealish not in the squad. ? reminds me of Le Tiss treatment It's not that surprising is it? We have an embarrassment of riches in that area and he was the standout player in a pretty awful team that stayed up by the skin of their teeth.
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2020 Posted 26 August, 2020 Not sure on the cries for Grealish myself. You've got Mount and Foden who are very similar players and both on a much higher level than him. Would be pointless to include 3 players of the same ilk.
Noodles34 Posted 26 August, 2020 Posted 26 August, 2020 Yep, why player a player with more talent in his right toe than mason mount, I suppose he just needs to run around a bit more.
trousers Posted 4 September, 2020 Posted 4 September, 2020 Chances of Ings starting the game tomorrow? I'm assuming that JWP is a cert for the bench but I reckon Ings might be in with a shout of starting. That said, more likely to be on the bench too. Good to be able to look forward to an England game again though.
Saint Keef Posted 4 September, 2020 Posted 4 September, 2020 From what I saw of Grealish at St Mary's last year, he spends most of his time falling over if a defender goes within about three feet of him. The most fouled player in the prem apparently and I'm not surprised based on what I saw. On the concourse at half time, most of the conversations I overheard were what an annoying w****** he is. What is as bad, is the referees buy it every time. Still, I suppose he can fall over for England now. Good luck to JWP and Danny though. DO NOT under any circumstances get injured!!!
igsey Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 JWP starts with #8 shirt, alongside (most likely) Rice in a 4-2-3-1 or as a more forward midfielder alongside Foden in a 4-3-3. Ings #21 on the bench.
trousers Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 08:56, trousers said: Chances of Ings starting the game tomorrow? I'm assuming that JWP is a cert for the bench but I reckon Ings might be in with a shout of starting. That said, more likely to be on the bench too. Good to be able to look forward to an England game again though. I think I might give the lottery a miss tonight... 😂 1 1
Barsiem Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 Not surprised JWP is starting. I think he’s got a great chance of establishing himself in the starting line-up, or at least the go to guy on the bench
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 Wanking over Foden in the pre-match build up, hopefully prowsey puts in a leaders performance in the middle to steal the show.
igsey Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 Bizarre there's no VAR, perfectly good goal ruled out. Not sure JWP has touched it so far? He could do with a little more assertive, seems to be avoiding the ball so far! But only 7 minutes in.
Saint_clark Posted 5 September, 2020 Posted 5 September, 2020 Just now, igsey said: Bizarre there's no VAR, perfectly good goal ruled out. Not sure JWP has touched it so far? He could do with a little more assertive, seems to be avoiding the ball so far! But only 7 minutes in. He's had 3 or 4 good little touches and got into some good positions on the edge of the box but been ignored. More annoyingly seems like they aren't giving him set piece duty but, bizarrely, have trippier taking corners.
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